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Week’s end……………. 12 July 2008

Posted by marisacat in California / Pacific Coast, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

Concow CA

Concow, Northern California fires…

Condor 43 at Big Sur

With haze from burning wildfires in the background, California condor No. 94 takes off near Big Sur. Condors sought to avoid the smoke by taking shelter in cliffs along the Pacific Ocean. [Orville Myers / Associated Press]

LOL I noticed this, looking around… I am surprised the shark did not land in CA… but nice to read he or she seemed happy, swimming around…

Fri Jul 11, 12:30 AM ET

SYDNEY (AFP) – A shark was found in a swimming pool at one of Sydney’s most popular beaches Friday, apparently swept into the baths by a freak wave.

The one-metre (3.3 foot) shark turned up in a rock pool situated next to the open ocean at Cronulla beach.

Cronulla Surf Lifesaving Club spokeswoman Robyn Cole said fisheries officers netted the shark and released it back into the sea unharmed shortly after members of the public reported its presence in the pool Friday morning.

“It was quite calm, just swimming happily up and down at one end of the pool,” she told AFP.

“It’s funny, though, because we have swimmers who come here at 6am every morning to do laps. It’s still dark then and they mustn’t have even noticed it was there.”

Cole said the shark must have been swept into the pool overnight by a large wave.

“It’s the first time we’ve had a shark in the pool,” she said. “We’ve had seals sunbaking there before, and get dolphin at the beach all the time, but I’ve never heard of a shark getting caught in a pool before.”




1. marisacat - 12 July 2008

I see there is a slap happy headline riding at the top of the colmn at the NYT…. some version of “Not to worry tiny frantic tots, porridge will be cooked soon”… LOL And they excavated the Dodd bluster of the day………… such sludge.

“There is a sort of a panic going on and that’s not what ought to be,” said Senator Christopher J. Dodd, the Connecticut Democrat who heads the Senate banking committee. “The facts don’t warrant that reaction, in my view.”

Mr. Dodd said that he was persuaded by conversations with Mr. Paulson and Mr. Bernanke that the two companies “are fundamentally sound and strong.”

Think I will go with the third comment to this at the Independent

Fannie Mae has been riddled with false accounting and crooked dealing which is why the executives face 101 indictments in 2006. Fraud is so commonplace in financial services we should not be surprised to find many ships in this fleet are taking water

2. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

Senator Dodd’s silliness reminded me of something, and so w/ a little o’ teh Google, I found:

Tinkerbell markets – let’s all clap our hands in unison

” I am frequently mystified at what goes on in the markets. I am even more mystified when people who ought to know better make pronouncements that appear to be profoundly counter-factual. Even if they are talking their own book, the high odds of being revealed as (bald-faced liars) proven wrong ought to make them worry about damaging their credibility.

Is this wishful thinking? Delusion? A hope that that a united front can change perceptions and therefore reality? (see this as Tinkerbell behavior: if we all clap together, the markets won’t die).”

3. marisacat - 12 July 2008

hmm Tony Snow has died… I had to think who that was, the press secretary, Fox anchor…etc.

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clap clap we can raise the dead. seems to be what some think. I heard again a report last night that we have a year + out here of sub primes breaking on the beach, or however to describe the rolling horror.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

Cue the outrage:

Toward the end of a 10-minute standup routine at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in downtown Chicago, the 50-year-old star of “The Bernie Mac Show” joked about menopause, sexual infidelity and promiscuity, and used occasional crude language.

“My little nephew came to me and he said, ‘Uncle, what’s the difference between a hypothetical question and a realistic question?'” Mac said. “I said, I don’t know, but I said, ‘Go upstairs and ask your mother if she’d make love to the mailman for $50,000.'”

As the joke continued, the punchline evoked an angry response from at least one person in the audience, who said it was offensive to women.

“It’s not funny. Let’s get Barack on,” a man shouted from the crowd, which paid $2,300 each to support the Illinois senator.

About 15 minutes later, Obama tried to smooth things over with a joke of his own.

“We can’t afford to be divided by race. We can’t afford to be divided by region or by class and we can’t afford to be divided by gender, which by the way, that means, Bernie, you’ve got to clean up your act next time,” Obama said. “This is a family affair. By the way, I’m just messing with you, man.”

The incident drew response from Obama’s campaign, which criticized Mac for his choice of material.

“Sen. Obama told Bernie Mac that he doesn’t condone these statements and believes what was said was inappropriate,” spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement after the event.

Mac, a Chicago native, said he’s a longtime Obama supporter and called the presumptive Democratic nominee a “man’s man” while offering him advice for the duration of the campaign trail.

“People like rumors. They’re going to say things like you was at the club with Lil’ Kim, and you and Kanye West got into a fist fight,” he said. “You can’t get upset. You’ve got to keep hope alive.”

7. marisacat - 12 July 2008

the Bernie Mac report just made me laugh. LOL Mayb e he can take him on the road to the next “Convince the Wimmens” conflab.

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What a wonderfully charming illustration.

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Carol Kreck, the librarian removed the other day from a McCain event for her “McCain=Bush” sign, has a blog up at HuffPo:

Also, the part about the security guard had me smiling. The DCPA’s Suzanne Blandon seems to be saying that because he is not “a trained speaker,” and because it was “the height of the moment,” the words “Secret Service” just popped out of his mouth. Huh.

The Secret Service claims what happened in the courtyard would be “inconsistent with our established policies and procedures.” But the Secret Service has been hit several times with lawsuits alleging violations of First Amendment rights when citizens expressed opposition to administration policies. Locally, Denver attorney David Lane is suing them for a violation of Steven Howards’ First and Fourth Amendment rights. Howards approached Dick Cheney in a Beaver Creek mall and told the vice president his policies in the Middle East were reprehensible. He was arrested; charges were dropped.

(As the New York Times reported, that issue devolved into “Secret Service agents — under oath in court depositions — accusing one another of unethical and perhaps even illegal conduct in the handling of Mr. Howards’s arrest and the official accounting of it.”)

Many of you have been inquiring about the status of legal proceedings. Colorado ACLU has deputized two attorneys to handle my case: criminal defense lawyer Pete Hedeen will take care of the trespassing charge. I will not pay a fine, I will not accept diversion. That leaves two options: dropped charges, or going to trial. After that is resolved, David Lane will proceed civilly.

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

Maybe Obama can find some homophobic singers or comedians to open for him at the next “Out for Obama” rally.

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13. liberalcatnip - 12 July 2008

I had no use for Tony Snow. People who choose to spout lies for a living, especially after facing possible death by cancer – which ought to inspire at least some revelation about one’s integrity in what time there may be left – don’t exactly impress me.

At the same time, I’m currently dealing with the impending death of my daughter’s father from colon cancer. (I left him when she was 2 months old, 30 years ago, but stayed in touch for her sake.) He’s in a hospice and has less than 3 months left to live. He just turned 50 last Saturday. He has found the integrity to face the truth in his life and I’m grateful for that. It’s never too late and we’ve been able to heal some major misunderstandings – important for both of us.

I feel for Snow’s family and the suffering he went through. It’s just really unfortunate that some people choose the road most traveled ie. the life of political and/or personal lies. Nobody knows when their time will be up but you’d think if you’d rcv’d a slap upside the head from life, you might make more positive choices. But we’re all just human, I guess.

14. marisacat - 12 July 2008

Documents obtained by the National Security Archive under the Freedom of Information Act indicate that the U.S. started drafting the agreement in November 2003. While information available in the heavily redacted copies that were provided does not specifically address such hot-button, present-day issues as the number and location of bases, or control of airspace, these preliminary planning documents show that from the outset U.S. aspirations for conducting military operations based in Iraq were essentially without limit


Perhaps reflecting sensitivity to Iraqi and U.S. public opposition, the heavily redacted documents do not reveal much of the detail of what U.S. military and government entities hoped to obtain in terms of Iraqi acquiescence. At the same time, there is little in the available text to indicate U.S. forces were initially willing to grant any significant limits to their ability to conduct operations in and around Iraq.

It is unlikely, of course, that all details of the 2003 planning have carried over to the 2008 discussions, and news accounts indicate that the U.S. continues to revise its demands in response to exploding Iraqi opposition as knowledge of the plan grows. However, the available evidence indicates that U.S. expectations then and now are similar in intent and ambition. The U.S. sought in 2003 and seeks in 2008 the prerogative to use Iraqi land and facilities, unconditional immunity for Coalition military forces and contractors, and virtually unlimited freedom of action. The administration wanted the Security Agreement to be approved by the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council by March 31, 2004, before establishment of an interim Iraqi government in late June 2004 and the election of a Transitional National Assembly in January 2005.

FOIA obtained dox at National Security Archives at GWU (snagged link from Angry Arab)

15. marisacat - 12 July 2008

I call chicken. Debate shy post ABC debate. Why worry, won’t the fflag pin protect him? [snicker]

16. NYCO - 12 July 2008

Marisa, that first photo is amazing… there are actually still swimming pools in California that aren’t green?!

17. NYCee - 12 July 2008

Not a “chicken” but a manified man!

I think you need one of these, to cuddle and hug and make you shout YES WE CAN from the mountaintops.


18. NYCee - 12 July 2008

Well, Vincent is going to get his time, all right, to talk about his book: The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder. He’s got almost 2 hours on C-Span 2! The downside – it’s at 4:15 in the morning (this Sunday)

However, the program will be rebroadcast on Aug 3 at 3:00 PM.

Takes place at Venice Center for Peace with Justice and the Arts in California.

19. marisacat - 12 July 2008

CA pools…

actually I saw an interview, up North around Paradise CA that got hit with a new sweep of fires… he tried to make it from the house to his pool, as a refuge but only made it to a water filled old cast iron tub that was between the house and pool. He rode out the fire there. His neighbor died.

20. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

I was watching some story about a guy who managed to make it through the fires (and saved his property) by starting his own backfires with his brother. His brother has been arrested for it. I heard an interview w/ a fire expert (can’t remember where) who was talking about this guy and now unworkable it is to just have fires be the responsibility of professionals who are underfunded. Apparently in Australia and other countries they train people in at-risk or isolated homes how to build and maintain their own homes to prevent being overrun by fire, and how to fight fire themselves.

21. marisacat - 12 July 2008


I read that sotry too, in the LAT a few days ago. A family with a compound of 55 acres at Big Sur… It seems pretty obvious they saved it. Nor argument. They hd the equipment to shovel deep fire breaks and they moved out iirc 150 truck loads of under brush and whatever else. The one brother who came down from the fire and thus was arrested, had been released, he will go before the judge later this month on 2 misdemeanors. The rest of the family, it seems, along with tenants, some of them at least, are still ont he property. Once you come out you can’t go back….

Privately, according to the report I read, some firefighters, regulars, are telling the family they did the right thing and did it well. It did sound like the fire triage was not going to place their proprty at a premium to be saved.

22. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

NY Times on “purists” and such:

In the breathless weeks before the Oregon presidential primary in May, Martha Shade did what thousands of other people here did: she registered as a Democrat so she could vote for Senator Barack Obama.

Now, however, after critics have accused Mr. Obama of shifting positions on issues like the war in Iraq, the Bush administration’s program of wiretapping without warrants, gun control and the death penalty — all in what some view as a shameless play to a general election audience — Ms. Shade said she planned to switch back to the Green Party.

“I’m disgusted with him,” said Ms. Shade, an artist. “I can’t even listen to him anymore. He had such an opportunity, but all this ‘audacity of hope’ stuff, it’s blah, blah, blah. For all the independents he’s going to gain, he’s going to lose a lot of progressives.”

Of course, that depends on how you define progressives.

As Ms. Shade herself noted, while alarm may be spreading among some Obama supporters, whether left-wing bloggers or purists holding Mr. Obama’s feet to the fire on one issue or another, the reaction among others has been less than outrage.

For all the idealism and talk of transformation that Mr. Obama has brought to the Democratic Party — he managed to draw a crowd of more than 70,000 here in May — there is also a wide streak of pragmatism, even among many grass-roots activists, in a party long vexed by factionalism.

“We’re frustrated by it, but we understand,” said Mollie Ruskin, 22, who grew up in Baltimore and is spending the summer here as a fellow with Politicorps, a program run by the Bus Project, a local nonprofit that trains young people to campaign for progressive candidates. “He’s doing it so he can get into office and do the things he believes in.”

Nate Gulley, 23, who grew up in Cleveland and is also here as a Politicorps fellow, said too much was being made of Mr. Obama’s every move.

“It’s important not to get swept up in ‘Is Obama posturing?’ ” Mr. Gulley said. “It’s self-evident that he’s a different kind of candidate.”

No, it’s not THOSE saps who are the problem, it’s the “purists” etc.

Many Obama supporters said the most vocal complaining about various policy positions was largely relegated to liberal bloggers and people who might otherwise support Ralph Nader, the Green Party candidate, or Dennis J. Kucinich, the liberal Ohio congressman who dropped out of the presidential race earlier this year.

“I think it’s accentuated by the fact that Obama’s appeal is an appeal to idealism,” said Kari Chisholm, who runs a blog, blueoregon.com, and does Internet strategy for Democratic candidates. “They believe their ideology is the only idealism and Obama’s is very mainstream. I’m not surprised they’re getting a little cranky. They’ve always been kind of cranky. A mainstream Democrat has always been too mainstream for them.”

Ummmm, Ralph’s not the Green candidate this year, idiots.

“Seventy-five thousand people do not attend political rallies unless something truly magical is happening,” Bob Blanchard wrote on May 18 in the comment section accompanying an account of the rally on The New York Times’s Web site. “Our great country will soon close the book on ‘government by division,’ and embrace ‘government by inclusion.’ ”

Asked last week whether Mr. Obama’s vote on the surveillance law or any other recent statements or actions had altered how he felt about the candidate, Mr. Blanchard, of North Smithfield, R.I., said “absolutely not.”

“When are these people going to go, anyway?” Mr. Blanchard said of left-wing critics he believes have hurt Democrats in past elections. “My attitude is lighten up on the guy. We want to win. Moving to the center is not a crime in this country.”

Ms. Shade, the Green-turned-Democrat-returned-Green voter, spoke about Mr. Obama while leaning out her second-floor apartment window, where she has placed homemade signs urging the impeachment of President Bush. Others say “Free Gaza” and “Occupation is Terrorism.” She said twice that the American political system was “rotten.”

“You realize,” Ms. Shade said, her voice fading with resignation, “that you’re talking to somebody who’s pretty far out of the mainstream.”

It’s going to be a long year.

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I’m glad the brother was released.

They seemed like pretty down-to-Earth folks to me. I think it’s the millionaire trophy homes that are the priorities, not some property held by people who work for a living.

24. marisacat - 12 July 2008

Here is the story from the LAT. It’s the back fire that caught hell. But … wihout setting that…

25. marisacat - 12 July 2008

I heard on the radio last night that Nepenthe had their cam back up…


26. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

Green Party names McKinney as presidential pick

CHICAGO (Reuters) – The U.S. Green Party, which captured far less than 1 percent of the vote in the last presidential election, chose former Democratic Rep. Cynthia McKinney as its 2008 presidential candidate on Saturday.

McKinney, 53, will be joined on the ticket for the November election by vice presidential candidate Rosa Clemente, a hip-hop artist and activist.

McKinney received 313 out of 532 votes cast at the party’s nominating convention in Chicago, party spokesman Scott McLarty said.

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28. marisacat - 12 July 2008

My god… I expected The Corner to be in spasm over Snow… but they are in massive spasm. Songs to cancer. Seems a bit much, if one considers hard cold reality..


29. CSTAR - 12 July 2008

From this morning’s WSJ Intelligent investor column

Exactly 10 years ago, the Standard and Poor’s 500 stock index was at 1164; it closed Friday at 1239. That’s an annualized average return of 0.63%. At that rate it wll take you 111 more years to double your money in the stock market

That means you would done just as well putting most of your money under a mattress and a little in a savings account.

Now if you are a participant in the private retirement system, you are advised by almost every sane person that your best “gamble” is to (a) diversify between stocks and bonds (b) Buy into index funds such as an S&P 500 index fund. There is nothing wrong with this advice.

What is wrong is the “moral hazard” created by a guaranteed flux of funds that the corporate management class, speculators, and so on can count on in any self0-enrichment strategy .

Now if belief in american exceptionalism were not so widespread, facts such as these might lead one to conclude that we in the US are sitting on a retirement powderkeg. Sadly, before we see a massive expressions of discontent of disenfranchised retirees on the streets, things will get a lot worse, particularly as all our medicare expectations come collapsing down under the weight of privatization.

30. CSTAR - 12 July 2008

#28 Unfortunately, there is no known antidote to the side-effects of reading NRO.

31. marisacat - 12 July 2008


Unfortunately one has to drag oneself, kicking and screaming, thru the righties, the Dem party slobberation is so great for ObamaRama..

Dirty job, as they say……………………….. I did the same, from roughly mid summer 2004, during La Kerry HoopLa. Watching him screw up day after day, while Dems basically toasted with champagne all summer, sure of their win. LOL It was a bit much.

Kathryn Jean Lopez makes The Corner like an ante chamber to the popal apartments, or somehting. She practically conducts Novenas. Gets very drippy.

32. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

McCain staff asked for protester’s ouster

It was Sen. John McCain’s staff who asked security at the Denver Center for the Performing Arts to remove people holding protest signs at the venue — not U.S. Secret Service agents, who were not involved in Carol Kreck’s ouster from the galleria.

A video of the incident circulating widely on the Internet shows a DCPA security guard saying that he was told by the Secret Service to remove Kreck, who was holding a paper sign that said “McCain = Bush.”

But Thursday, after two days of being vilified by bloggers, letter writers and others, the Secret Service emphatically denied involvement.

“Contrary to some recent reporting, the Secret Service had no involvement in Ms. Kreck being removed from the area,” said Malcolm D. Wiley Sr., spokesman for the Secret Service. “It was not done at our request or suggestion. Any assertion to the contrary is inaccurate and inconsistent with our established policies and procedures.”

That prompted the DCPA to re-examine the reasons its guard sought to have Kreck removed.

“A representative of Senator John McCain’s staff respectfully asked that the venue for its July 7 Town Hall Meeting, The Denver Center for the Performing Arts, not allow persons to display signage within the Arts Complex,” DCPA officials said in a statement.

33. liberalcatnip - 12 July 2008

Cat Faucet

Quite the thread. Cat people are obviously nuts.


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What’s this about? Can she be any more vague?

36. marisacat - 12 July 2008

Oh littul newsie. Sooo connected. Which I think is the pointless point of the piece.

37. liberalcatnip - 12 July 2008

I’m not quite sure why she felt it was necessary to tell people they’re being played – or why people would thank her for telling them that. Are they really that clueless? (rhetorical question)

38. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 July 2008

I’m not quite sure why she felt it was necessary to tell people they’re being played

Clinton supporter?

39. liberalcatnip - 12 July 2008

Clinton supporter?

No idea but it’s interesting to see who crawls out of the woodwork when operatives are mentioned ie. who fesses up to having “connections” (like her) and who, like Houle, still feel the need to defend the fact that they were connected but (cough cough) never let that influence their blogging (ahem)….while Miss Laura rides to the rescue of the rest of the FPers.

It’s one big farce. Don’t trust [……] but I’m not going to tell you […..’s] name. Useless.

40. CSTAR - 13 July 2008

There is actually one diary in Dkos which was informative, at least for me:On legal interpreter Erik Camayd-Freixas’ account of the May 2008 immigration raid on the Agrirocessor plant. I think it’s better to just read the post at the The samctuaer which has the full text Camayd-Freixas’ account.

41. marisacat - 13 July 2008


“working for the Yanqui dollar”, as I put it.

42. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

The Outquisition

The other night Cory Doctorow and I were talking over coffee, and we got going on an idea that’s been rattling around in my head ever since.

We were talking about the slow-motion collapse here in America, the looming climate crisis,the futility of survivalism; and we began to play with the thought, what kinds of heroes would actually do some good for the communities that get hit hard?

Because if the ruins of the unsustainable are the new frontier, and if, as is already happening, the various economic and environmental transitions we face will leave many people unmoored from their familiar assumptions at the very least and, at the worst, cut loose from their jobs or driven from their homes, a huge number of people are going to need help forging new ways of life.

Even if we do a pretty decent job of hugging the curve, and bright green innovation brings prosperity and security to a lot of people in many regions, some others will still suffer from ecological shifts, political abandonment, economic collapse or some combination of all three. Unless things change dramatically, we have not seen our last Dust Bowl, our last New Orleans, our last Detroit. What do the people who are left trapped in degrading places, who don’t get the green collar jobs, do?

And we got on this riff about heroes who got the paradox of the moment: that abandoned people and places are sometimes the ones who most need radical innovation; that, these days, new tools and models are practically scattered all over the ground, just waiting for people to pick them up; but that those who most need them are those who least know how to find them.

What would it be like, we wondered, if folks who knew tools and innovation left the comfy bright green cities and traveled to the dead mall suburban slums, rustbelt browntowns and climate-smacked farm communities and started helping the locals get the tools they needed. We imagined that it would need an almost missionary fervor, something like the Inquisition (which largely destroyed knowledge) in reverse, a crusade of open sharing, or as Cory promptly dubbed it, the Outquisition.

43. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

A new Thomas Frank book is coming out. The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule excerpts up at Shakesville.

The first chapter will be in the August Harpers. It’s online if you subscribe, but you have to click on the August link … the August stuff isn’t on the home page.

I suspect that the sotto voce whisper under each page is “so you better choose the Donk, because what other choice do you have?”.

44. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

Jake Tapper on McKinney:

For those voters who think Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are too conventional, the Green Party this weekend named former Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Georgia, its 2008 presidential nominee.

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Frank RIch today:

Top Bush hands are starting to get sweaty about where they left their fingerprints. Scapegoating the rotten apples at the bottom of the military’s barrel may not be a slam-dunk escape route from accountability anymore.

No wonder the former Rumsfeld capo, Douglas Feith, is trying to discredit a damaging interview he gave to the British lawyer Philippe Sands for another recent and essential book on what happened, “Torture Team.” After Mr. Sands previewed his findings in the May issue of Vanity Fair, Mr. Feith protested he had been misquoted — apparently forgetting that Mr. Sands had taped the interview. Mr. Feith and Mr. Sands are scheduled to square off in a House hearing this Tuesday.

So hot is the speculation that war-crimes trials will eventually follow in foreign or international courts that Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell’s former chief of staff, has publicly advised Mr. Feith, Mr. Addington and Alberto Gonzales, among others, to “never travel outside the U.S., except perhaps to Saudi Arabia and Israel.” But while we wait for the wheels of justice to grind slowly, there are immediate fears to tend. Ms. Mayer’s book helps cement the case that America’s use of torture has betrayed not just American values but our national security, right to the present day.

In her telling, a major incentive for Mr. Cheney’s descent into the dark side was to cover up for the Bush White House’s failure to heed the Qaeda threat in 2001. Jack Cloonan, a special agent for the F.B.I.’s Osama bin Laden unit until 2002, told Ms. Mayer that Sept. 11 was “all preventable.” By March 2000, according to the C.I.A.’s inspector general, “50 or 60 individuals” in the agency knew that two Al Qaeda suspects — soon to be hijackers — were in America. But there was no urgency at the top. Thomas Pickard, the acting F.B.I. director that summer, told Ms. Mayer that when he expressed his fears about the Qaeda threat to Mr. Ashcroft, the attorney general snapped, “I don’t want to hear about that anymore!”

After 9/11, our government emphasized “interrogation over due process,” Ms. Mayer writes, “to pre-empt future attacks before they materialized.” But in reality torture may well be enabling future attacks. This is not just because Abu Ghraib snapshots have been used as recruitment tools by jihadists. No less destructive are the false confessions inevitably elicited from tortured detainees. The avalanche of misinformation since 9/11 has compromised prosecutions, allowed other culprits to escape and sent the American military on wild-goose chases. The coerced “confession” to the murder of the Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, to take one horrific example, may have been invented to protect the real murderer.

46. JJB - 13 July 2008

It appears that 9 American soldiers have been killed by a major insurgent attack in Afghanistan:

A multi-pronged militant assault on a small, remote U.S. base killed nine American soldiers Sunday in one of the deadliest attacks on U.S. troops since the 2001 invasion, a Western official said.

Militants fired machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars from homes and a mosque in the village of Wanat in the northeastern province of Kunar, a mountainous region that borders Pakistan, NATO’s International Security Assistance Force said in a statement.

The attack on the relatively new outpost began at 4:30 a.m. Sunday and lasted throughout the day.

Nine U.S. troops were killed in the attack, a Western official said on condition of anonymity because the deaths had not yet been officially announced.

Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, the top U.S. military spokeswoman in Afghanistan, said she could not comment because the battle was ongoing. She referred calls to NATO headquarters in Kabul.

This on the heels of a suicide attack that killed some 25 people and wounded dozens more.

47. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

Obama and the “Far-left”

But, let’s not quibble about mapping political space. Yardley can keep his “far-left” liberals if he likes. The crux of the article details the existential crisis underway among progressive supporters of Obama’s campaign. To their great surprise, the once champion of “change,” has begun to shift rhetoric and is even taking concrete action in support of right-wing legislation. The later came to fruition after Obama reversed a pledge to filibuster legislation which would indemnify telephone companies which facilitated state wiretapping of citizens. Obama flew into the senate on Wednesday and registered his yes vote.

Progressives for Obama have responded in a number of ways – each equally delusional. Some have chalked up the decision to the fact that he is “playing politics” – “He is a transformative politician, but he is still a politician.” Others, who sense that they hold some leverage over the campaign (this is perhaps the most delusional of all), have taken to holding their campaign donations in escrow until Obama swings back to “the left.” One such fund has already collected $100,000 (bad news for them is that Obama has collected more than $287 million thus far mostly from various parts of the corporate sector). Finally, my favorite delusion is that there are two Obama’s – or more directly that the stealth “progressive Obama” is ready to emerge the second the swearing-in ceremony begins. I remember seeing something like this as a child when a break in time forces a collection of superheroes to battle their opposite selves – the “bizarro” Super-heroes.

So, the once every four years ritual of liberal disillusionment continues. This round might be particularly bitter since people really want to believe. They feel trapped since there are no real social movements on the ground. So, elections seem like the only alternative to making political change. However, as books such as Francis Fox Piven’s “Challenge Authority” have demonstrated, the elections are a suckers-game built to empower elite groups as long as popular social movements are not set in motion. Supporting efforts for housing, healthcare and labor rights will yield far more “change” than throwing pennies (or withholding pennies) from the Obama campaign.

However, the early stages of disillusionment suggest an even bumpier ride. Obama’s actions have driven even normally non-violent folks such as Jesse Jackson to the edge of violence. On a national broadcast Jackson claimed he would like to “cut his [Obama’s] nuts off.” Sorry, Rev. Jackson it seems like someone beat you to the punch. Perhaps it was the $7.2 million in contributions from health insurance companies, or the $300,000 from defense contractors or the $21 million from finance/real estate/insurance sector. Anyway, it is nuts-off and rightward-ho as we creep closer to October.

48. marisacat - 13 July 2008

So, the once every four years ritual of liberal disillusionment continues. This round might be particularly bitter since people really want to believe. They feel trapped since there are no real social movements on the ground. So, elections seem like the only alternative to making political change. However, as books such as Francis Fox Piven’s “Challenge Authority” have demonstrated, the elections are a suckers-game built to empower elite groups as long as popular social movements are not set in motion. Supporting efforts for housing, healthcare and labor rights will yield far more “change” than throwing pennies (or withholding pennies) from the Obama campaign.

The Democrats are running on the same stuff they ran on 92, and in 06. Just add in war, in which thry fully cooperated. And now the cahs flow is in serious trouble, much worse than 92… plus, you know, WAR!. As stories helpfully ramp up on Afghanistan and Pakistan. Even Pakistan can feel our cold hot breath, with Osama as an excuse.

What a mess we are in.

As Obama lectures us.

49. marisacat - 13 July 2008

oh FFS. Obama and his faith are the newsqueak cover.

I have choked on faith.

50. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

But what about the children?!?!

OKLAHOMA CITY — An Oklahoma church canceled a controversial gun giveaway for teenagers at a weekend youth conference.

Windsor Hills Baptist had planned to give away a semiautomatic assault rifle until one of the event’s organizers was unable to attend.

The church’s youth pastor, Bob Ross, said it’s a way of trying to encourage young people to attend the event. The church expected hundreds of teenagers from as far away as Canada.

“We have 21 hours of preaching and teaching throughout the week,” Ross said.

A video on the church Web site shows the shooting competition from last year’s conference. A gun giveaway was part of the event last year. This year, organizers included it in their marketing.

“I don’t want people thinking ‘My goodness, we’re putting a weapon in the hand of somebody that doesn’t respect it who are then going to go out and kill,’” said Ross. “That’s not at all what we’re trying to do.”

Ross said the conference isn’t all about guns, but rather about teens finding faith.

51. marisacat - 13 July 2008

paladin. have gun will travel.

handing out guns to encourage teen faith (LOL in what?) seems a bit much, no matter where one falls on the Great Gun Divide.

52. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008
53. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

God is a Bullet

There’s a green plaid jacket on the back of the chair
It’s like a moment frozen forever there

Mom and dad had a lot of big plans for their little man
…so proud.
Mama’s gone crazy ’cause her baby’s shot down
By some teenage car chase war out of bounds
It was the wrong place wrong time wrong end of a gun.

Shoot straight from the hip
Gone forever in a trigger slip
You know, it could have been
It could have been your brother.
Shoot straight shoot to kill
Blame each other, blame yourselves
God is a bullet have mercy on us everyone

They’re gonna call me sir they’ll all stop picking on me
Well I’m a high school grad I’m over 5 foot 3
I’ll get a badge and a gun and I’ll join the p.d.
They’ll see
He didn’t have to use the gun they put in his hand
But when the guy came at him, well he panicked and ran
And it’s thirty long years before they give him another chance
And it’s sad sad sad

John lennon, doctor king, harvey milk
All for goddamn nothing
God is a bullet have mercy on us everyone

54. NYCO - 13 July 2008

What would it be like, we wondered, if folks who knew tools and innovation left the comfy bright green cities and traveled to the dead mall suburban slums, rustbelt browntowns and climate-smacked farm communities and started helping the locals get the tools they needed.

Ah, yes… the BoingBoingoisie gets missionary fervor. (rolling eyes)

55. wilfred - 13 July 2008

I saw the documentary Trumbo this weekend. I highly recommend it if it plays near you or ends up on PBS or cable soon. It’s beautifully done and features many of his letters and loads of footage from his life. The McCarthy era is still upon us, it’s always hunting season for liberals in America.

56. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

gee NYCO, which is it … are they snotty elitists hunkered down in the cities ignoring the real world and people’s problems, or are they snotty elitists trying to force themselves on the hoi polloi?

I guess it would be better if techies would just stick to themselves.

some help setting up wind or solar power, self-sustaining gardens etc wouldn’t be welcome?

57. moiv - 13 July 2008

The New Yorker Obama cover: OMFG, WTF?

And a wicked send-up it is. Predictably, Naranja-phrenia ensues.

Still reading the Ryan Lizza story inside: Making It: How Chicago Shaped Obama

58. marisacat - 13 July 2008


Lizza in The New Yorker, a long piece on ObamaRama rise. gah.

I ahd to stop due to gag reflex in the middle of the Newsqueak piece on Ob and his faith. If I finsih it, I will do it on an empty stomach. Page 2 ws a rather too dedicated job at trying to say that for 10 years (once they had the first kid) they barely went to TUCC. LOL, selling bridges.

Somebody somewhere is shaking in their boots. Is there ANYTHING he has not “regretted” or ”renounced” or ”rejected”? I think it is down to Jesus on his plate right now. Everything else to the side.

59. marisacat - 13 July 2008

57, — LOL

60. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

oh, that cover is too fucking funny.

Quit fucking whining about the fucking media. Fucking babies.

61. wilfred - 13 July 2008

The New Yorker cover is great. You can tell these idiot Kossacks aren’t subscribers. Great covers every week (and even better cartoons).

62. marisacat - 13 July 2008

well it seems ObamRama is in synch wiht wee Koscottes:

Said Obama spox Bill Burton: “The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Senator Obama’s right-wing critics have tried to create. But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree.”

63. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 July 2008

Burton continued, “and if they’re NOT outraged, we’ll do our best to TELL them they should be outraged, and we’ll whine and cry about it, maybe even go on CNN and hold our breath until we’re blue.”

“Then we’ll find a way to ask why the media doesn’t talk about how McCain is like one of those crazy old guys who won’t quit driving.”

64. marisacat - 13 July 2008

People jsut won’t do what obama wants. From Bernie Mac one day to the cover of the tiresome dull Democratic mouthpiece, The New Yorker the next.

Obama must be the single most politically correct and fucking DULL person that ever lived, by now. LOL it sure does not add up to leadership. Endless protection of the flanks, fake and real.

I am reminded of Kerry, when he tried to claim the SUV in the family “belonged to my wife”.

65. CSTAR - 13 July 2008

Re New Yorker Cover.

Well it’s funny, I gotta admit. The reaction seems like the aftermath of the Mohammed Cartoons.

66. marisacat - 13 July 2008

LOL via The Page:

Spokesman Bill Burton:

“The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Senator Obama’s right-wing critics have tried to create. But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree.”

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds echoes the response: “We completely agree with the Obama campaign.”

Learning of the cover from the press, Obama himself says, “I have no response to that.”

67. wu ming - 13 July 2008

that cover was fucking hilarious.

68. cad - 13 July 2008

Is it over yet?

69. marisacat - 13 July 2008

nu thred…………


……. 8) …………

70. NYCO - 14 July 2008

Madman, there are plenty of people everywhere who are working on these problems. It’s just the idea that the BoingBoingoisie have just had this brilliant idea! if it drops from the keyboard of Cory Doctorow, it must be revolutionary!

Well, these ideas have been had before. And usually, they get bored because of the lack of Starbucks and Apple stores in the areas they’re forced to live to do this missionary work. So it’s not the idea I’m questioning, it’s their actual understanding of the people they’re purporting to help, and their commitment. I doubt their ability to get their hands dirty in local politics, to deal with systemic local problems , without getting bored and moving on to the next thrill.

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