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Drowning in popcorn…. 30 August 2008

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.


I picked a large image so I don’t have to write anything…….. 😉


1. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

Tasini really said that about Biden, “good for unions”?


we are awash is willfully stupid.

2. aemd - 30 August 2008

Billmon discusses Sarah Palin.

Gotta disagree with Billmon and go with MITM, NYCO and Ms Cat. Palin’s a good pick. The huntin’, fishin’, fiscally conservative, fundie Christian family values base of the GOP will find her very refreshing and appealing. She will help McCain draw out the religious conservatives and the Joe/Jane sixpacks of the Republican party base. This is the same base that Joebama has been wooing and is willing to alienated their own Democratic base to win. McCain seems to be trying to rally tradition GOP support and pull in the independent/swing voters. Not all Clinton supporters were Democratic loyalists or even liberal.

Palin is untested so the whole thing may backfire on the McCain but she will attract voters. Jebbus, look at how the annointing of the chosen one got buried just on the announcement. LOL, can’t wait to see the polls at the end of Sept. Popcorn!!

3. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Palin is untested so the whole thing may backfire

oh yeah definitely.

On the other hand, Inside Edition has a story out on Biden, having to do with possible exaggeration of details of The Car Accident. They were hit by a trucker and trucker blogs have picked it up.


Madman, the Tasini I read as a quote, “Biden is good for unions” in some article somwehre. just this past week… I was surprised. But, what do I know.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

oh, I believe it. Over and over again people who have made good criticisms of that worthless party fall back in line, though Tasini is no Sirota when it comes to that particular vice.

5. ms_xeno - 30 August 2008

Nothing succeeds like guilt, Madman. Not to mention the exciting challenge of rooting bare-handed through a six-foot pile of shit to find the single M&M buried at the bottom so you can weep with gratitude for the puppet masters who buried it there and then commanded you to dig.

Something in people tells them that it’s what they deserve. I’ve given up on wondering why. Life is too short.

6. Intermittent Bystander - 30 August 2008

Thanks for the Gourds, Madman! (I’ll take a pass on the Kate Bush . . . at least for now, I’m with jamfuse on her oeuvre.) The ukelele Life on Mars was fantastic, though.

Rest those pore fingers when you can, MCat. What a frickin week!

Off to hear the massed pipe-and-drum bands . . . have a good day, everybody!

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008
8. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

interesting link in spam, I think. I’m going to try this one: Credit-card companies killed Mythbusters segment on RFID vulnerabilities

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

RFLMAO: John Edwards To Emerge From Seclusion For Speech In New York

RALEIGH, N.C. — In a return to the public stage, John Edwards has confirmed plans to talk politics a month after admitting to an extramarital affair. But his wife won’t be at his side.

A representative for the former Democratic presidential candidate confirmed Friday that he would speak alone at Hofstra University in New York on Sept. 8, school spokesman Stuart Vincent said. It was initially billed as a joint appearance to talk about the 2008 election, but Vincent said Elizabeth Edwards would not attend.

10. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Isn’t that amazing? Poor greedy sod. Shuld lie low a bit longer. I hd read that first reports said EE would be with him but that was quickly amended. THink Mickey Kaus wagged, “DNA?”

In some ways this is a very entertaining year.

11. ms_xeno - 30 August 2008

I hope everyone’s enjoying “Mimzy”‘s naif act on PFF as much as I am. S/he couldn’t wait to proclaim somebody a Right-winger for being angry that Obama will continue to use tax money to fund war.

Mommy, tell me why you hate Obama…Daddy, tell me why Obama isn’t better than Hillary cuz he won and didn’t she have more money…Mommy, tell me everything I need to know about the Green Party because I didn’t like some other 3rd Party once somewhere so I don’t think I should like Greens…Daddy, tell me why you like McCain which you must because you don’t like Obama… Blah blah burble burble poop splat burp blah


Nobody even puts their back into shoveling the same old shit anymore. :/

12. ms_xeno - 30 August 2008

Elizabeth E. picked a good time to make her break, if she wants to. The usual misogynists are all using up their A-List material (such as it is) on Pailin at the moment. Not that I like Pailin.

I stand by my opinion that Duchovny will play Johnny Boy in the movie. Ashleigh Simpson will come out of retirement to play Marcotte.

13. baypraire - 30 August 2008

I hope everyone’s enjoying “Mimzy”’s naif act on PFF as much as I am. S/he couldn’t wait to proclaim somebody a Right-winger for being angry that Obama will continue to use tax money to fund war.

yeah well the obs had to rush in a replacement for denali. at least he could spell.

14. marisacat - 30 August 2008

I did notice Mimzy…

what a hoot!

15. ms_xeno - 30 August 2008

Later on, when the Golden Man wins in his God-ordained landslide and yet still lets all of the Mimzys down, it’ll be my fault because I didn’t drop everything to explain it all to them in detail just one more time. Also, if I’d only been nicer to Obama he would have been nicer to me.


16. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008
17. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

so a toy rabbit from the future is a pffter now?

18. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

Oh, this interview w/ Keira Knightly made me laugh:

“According to Forbes magazine, I earned 32 million last year,” she says, though she can’t remember if it’s dollars or pounds (it’s dollars).

Is that not true? “Unfortunately, no.”

How much did you earn? “Fuck off.”

She says that money is not important beyond being comfortable, that she owns her own flat “somewhere in London”, and she mentions a new sofa. When I ask how much the sofa was, I get the inevitable (and probably well-deserved) “fuck off”.

She doesn’t want to talk about politics much, because she doesn’t feel confident talking about it, though when I ask what she votes, she says, “My dad was a founder member of a leftwing theatre company, I went to a comprehensive – what do you think?”

Her father is an actor, her mother is a playwright, and young Keira was brought up in Teddington, west London. How posh does that make her, I wonder. “People from the Guardian and Observer always want to know that, it’s weird,” she replies. “Why are you so obsessed with poshness? Somebody from the Observer asked me why I don’t have a cockney accent, seeing as I went to a comprehensive school.”

It seems a reasonable question, so what’s the answer? “Not everyone who goes to comprehensive school has a cockney accent. I think I probably did have more of an estuary accent. Coming from Teddington, it’s more estuary. Cockney is more east London.”

Do an estuary accent then. “No.”

American then. “No.”

Can she do an Indian accent? “Not today, no. Fuck off.”

But she’s an actor. “You’re an actor, so act [Oi, she’s stealing my lines]. Give me a script then.”

Critics of Knightley say she is wooden and expressionless, though they’ve been less vociferous since Pride & Prejudice and Atonement. But the criticism is not just about her acting – she seems to generate more loathing, almost exclusively from women, than any actor deserves. I’ve brought along an example, a newspaper column (OK, it’s from the Guardian). “Oh great,” she says. “You’re not actually going to quote me something really shitty that someone’s said, are you?” Well, I wouldn’t have, but she’s been so totally cool, and unfazed, and also to show that I haven’t fallen totally under the pretty-lady spell, so yes, I am…

“If you want to befriend a woman, ask her the question, ‘What do you think of Keira Knightley?’ In the resulting torrent of bile and loathing, you will bond.”

“Well, I’m doing a good thing for women all over the country, then,” she says. “I think that’s a very positive thing.”

Why do so many women hate you? “I don’t know,” she sighs. “Maybe you should ask the woman who wrote it. I think if you put yourself in the public forum, then that’s what you put yourself up for, I guess. I don’t think I need to read it. I have friends.”

Who likes you? “I’m a shit person and no one likes me,” she says. “I’m an absolute cunt.”

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008
20. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

The era of the American Internet is ending.

Invented by American computer scientists during the 1970s, the Internet has been embraced around the globe. During the network’s first three decades, most Internet traffic flowed through the United States. In many cases, data sent between two locations within a given country also passed through the United States.

Engineers who help run the Internet said that it would have been impossible for the United States to maintain its hegemony over the long run because of the very nature of the Internet; it has no central point of control.

And now, the balance of power is shifting. Data is increasingly flowing around the United States, which may have intelligence — and conceivably military — consequences.

American intelligence officials have warned about this shift. “Because of the nature of global telecommunications, we are playing with a tremendous home-field advantage, and we need to exploit that edge,” Michael V. Hayden, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2006. “We also need to protect that edge, and we need to protect those who provide it to us.”

Indeed, Internet industry executives and government officials have acknowledged that Internet traffic passing through the switching equipment of companies based in the United States has proved a distinct advantage for American intelligence agencies. In December 2005, The New York Times reported that the National Security Agency had established a program with the cooperation of American telecommunications firms that included the interception of foreign Internet communications.

Some Internet technologists and privacy advocates say those actions and other government policies may be hastening the shift in Canadian and European traffic away from the United States.

What, our friends don’t appreciate us treating them like criminals? Who’da THUNK it?

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

On a Wing and Low Air: The Surprising Way Wind Turbines Kill Bats

Scientists have known since 2004 that wind farms kill bats, just as they kill birds, even though the flying mammals should be able to avoid them. Many biologists thought that the bats, like their avian counterparts, might be falling victim to the fast-spinning turbine blades. But an examination of 188 hoary and silver-haired bats killed at a wind farm in southwestern Alberta in Canada between July and September in 2007 showed that nearly half showed no external injuries—as would be expected if the giant blades had smashed the flying mammals to the ground.

Instead, 90 percent of the 75 bats the researchers ultimately dissected had been killed by burst blood vessels in their lungs, according to results presented in Current Biology—suggesting that the air pressure difference created by the spinning windmills had terminated them, not contact with the blades.

“As turbine height increases, bat deaths increase exponentially,” says ecologist Erin Baerwald of the University of Calgary in Alberta, who led research into the deaths as part of her master’s project. “What we found is a lot of internal hemorrhaging.”

As the wind moves through a wind turbine’s blades, pressure drops behind them by five to 10 kilopascals (a pascal is a unit of pressure), and any bat unlucky enough to blunder into such an undetectable low pressure zone would find its lungs and blood vessels rapidly expanding and, quickly, bursting under the new conditions.

22. liberalcatnip - 30 August 2008

2. Jebbus, look at how the annointing of the chosen one got buried just on the announcement.

Yup. So much for bouncy goodness.

Between Hurricanes Palin and Gustav, Obamalama was wiped off the screen.

23. liberalcatnip - 30 August 2008


Some sources who have worked with Olbermann at MSNBC describe him as a difficult colleague,

That’s putting it nicely. I imagine the word “insufferable” would be more precise.

Jon Stewart showed clips of those spats on his show the other nite. Frat boys on the big screen. And they get paid for that?

24. liberalcatnip - 30 August 2008

Good news for the Greens in Canada. I don’t support their platform but the more, the merrier.

25. liberalcatnip - 30 August 2008
26. wilfred - 30 August 2008

Go Keira Knightly! What a total ass that writer was. Fuck off indeed. I know how much they must hate her for being smart, talented and successful. How dare she do that while making a slew of films where things don’t blow up and aren’t based on comics. Maybe the writer can show some real chutzpah and try that on Robert DeNiro, Adam Sandler and Will Smith and see what happens. So tired of people picking on someone like her or Kate Winslet and the big ones go scott free.

Just got in from seeing “Trouble the Water”. Glad it will be on HBO, pay TV is better than no TV I guess. It seemed like a good thing to do on the weekend of Katrina, and it was worth it.

Now I get in and find out that Gustav is smashing Havana and is already at Cat 4. It won’t be pretty by Monday. And then there’s Hannah….

27. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Sorry for the delay!

Madman (2), one from wilfred and one from Arcturus out of moderation…


28. diane - 30 August 2008

Hey, jus checkin in people, I’m really not insane..

…the doors to the superdome will be locked. Those who stay will be on their own…. AP

as if they weren’t on their own with “men/women” during Katrina………

God has an hilarious sense of humor for assholes…..
assholes who will eventually be on their knees………………..because they do have a meeting in Samarra [sic? as if it matters]……

sorry but I’ll just have to be mentally retarded…I do believe in God…I certainly will never beleive in a selected human being….scientist, or otherwise….as the end all be all. The founder of the National Academy of Science was a racist eugenist asshole..no difference between him or george bush the “kristian”……….

Again, kisses to you Marisa, for allowing me to ‘speak’ freely……you’ve been more than tolerant of things I’ve posted in ‘drunken’ moments………….and I Love you for it……..

29. marisacat - 30 August 2008

OK! It is rolling out…

Cindy McCain goes on This Week this Sunday to push back on Obama speech (she too comes from booststrappism! And she will tell you how Mum and Dad did it!)

The candidate’s wife tells ABC’s “This Week” that Obama’s derision of the McCain family’s wealth was unfair and offensive.

“My father had nothing. He and my mother sold everything they had to raise $10,000. I’m proud of what my dad and my mother did and what they built and left me.”

In Thursday’s stadium speech, Obama says McCain “doesn’t know” and “doesn’t get” what ordinary Americans are experiencing.

Full interview airs on Sunday’s “This Week.”

McCain took in 7 mil since the Palin announce… (was that Friday am?)

And the paper that serves the Ob campaign (that would be the NYT) reports Ob Camp flustered and in early vapors over Palin, dispatched a crew to Wassila to figure her out.

Hold onto the Women! Don’t let them get away!

Sunday NY Times: Palin Pick Sends Obama Team Scrambling

The Paper of Record says Obama staffers are headed to Anchorage and Palin’s town of Wasilla to research the little-known governor, as the campaign develops its response.

Plans to highlight her conservatism and short experience, and to enlist Sen. Clinton to hold on to women.

Meanwhile, staffers are reviewing GOP convention speeches to ensure they don’t push the experience issue too hard against Obama.

Oh this could get so so entertaining.

All of the above via The Page.

30. diane - 30 August 2008


31. marisacat - 30 August 2008


The wildred and Arcturus comments were in the preceding thred. Sorry for delayed confusion!

I am sure the house cat used to be my editor.

32. marisacat - 30 August 2008

The Clintons are laughing up a storm…

33. marisacat - 30 August 2008

I also saw R are considering delaying start of convention..

The GOP candidate tells Fox News that the convention may be trimmed, altered or even suspended for a day or two due to the storm headed toward the Gulf coast.


Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:



hey hey diane…

34. diane - 30 August 2008

I digress…..

but really Marisa…..”Milk and Fashion?”…………..or was it “Milk and Penelope?”………waz up in SF?

35. marisacat - 30 August 2008


it’s hot here… too hot.

36. diane - 30 August 2008

your essence will outlive that heat hon……….

37. NYCee - 30 August 2008

Just read the past few threads.

Saw Palin today, short interview at Governors’ Convention. I heard she made a speech there right after her water broke, then rushed home from TX to AK to birth the baby, asap.

My take is that she could well have a lot of appeal – she’s sexy and pretty and very personable in a non stale pol way. She has a handsome husband (in the Robert Goulet goes Alaska mold), a pretty passel of kids, the baby is cute and vulnerable. Lots of colorful human interest, exotic Alaska life stories attached. (Very People Magazine Friendly…) McCain prettied up his stage appearances a LOT.

What’s not to like???!!

I hear she is the most popular governor nationwide, something like 90% approval, I do believe.

Most Rs say such crazy things about creation/war/birth/death/taxation/drilling, etc… nothing surprises me anymore. I wouldnt expect less from her. They will pump her up on safe R platitudes, served from the boilerplate to take to the stump; she’ll burn the midnight whale oil (does she hunt them too?) and get at least as knowledgeable on foreign affairs as Edwards was, in the next few weeks. Unfortunately, our media/public doesnt seem to need or want the bar much higher.

Anyway, liked the link on Biden’s pre Iraq War bs, think it was Madman who supplied it, a while back. The need to bleed (MACHO) is so non-stop with him, so just… Ugh. Just let’s put him and McCain in a death match and be done with it!

JoeBiden may be squelched a bit in the debates with a woman… who knows. Did occur to me first thing. Remembering what a big deal they made over Lazio “invading Hillary’s space.” The attack of the piece of paper? (And pen!!!)

I, personally, never saw where Joe would have an advantage with Romney, even, in drawing a contrast – what with his fp history or let’s fragment Iraq plan (he is big on drastic, overly dramatic declarations/predictions, which then conveniently get swept in memory hole after they shake out as duds. At the TIME, it’s all beady eyed serious: “Mark my words, what I say will come to pass, and then youre gonna, this is gonna… Oh my gawsh!!! This should be quite something, Palin v him.

I dont know how Cindy could keep a closer eye on Johnny Boy, but if she can, she should! 🙂

38. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Here is the NYT link on the report of Ob Camp reaction to Palin

Much is made of “the women” but I think McCain camp thinks of Palin for much bigger swathes of voters than dissaffected Hillaryites… but works as a spin… LOL

39. NYCO - 30 August 2008

I’m not sure that FEMA report is accurate or up to date… I saw another report earlier than the hurricane center said it was still only a 4, in contradiction of the FEMA report.

40. marisacat - 30 August 2008

LOL from the NYT link in 37… It’s the Female Mobilisation!

Mr. Obama’s campaign has moved on a variety of fronts to increase his appeal to women. Leading women in battleground states are being mobilized, and a disproportionate number of female surrogates are being sent to argue for him on television. They are being asked to focus on abortion rights and pay equity, aides said, and to steer clear of criticizing Ms. Palin as having limited experience in elected politics and government.

Mr. Obama’s aides said Mrs. Clinton would make regular appearances on his behalf to try to fend off Mr. McCain’s efforts, calling on her supporters to stick with the Democratic ticket.

Mr. Obama’s campaign said there were now about 18 states in play, including Alaska. In interviews, campaign officials said they would compete there, despite the fact that the name of its very popular governor will appear on the ballot.

Mr. McCain’s advisers laughed at that. “We’re scared to death about Alaska,” Mr. Black said.

41. lucid - 30 August 2008

the 5:00pm EST advisory had sustained wind speeds at 150mph which is just shy of a cat 5. I don’t think it is supposed to turn cat.5 until it passes Cuba.

42. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Here is link to online of Times-Picayune, http://www.nola.com/

They say cat 4 but “gathering strength over Cuba”, several articles and photos. They seem to think the West Bank is more vulnerable this time.

Talk about impending disaster, unless it somehow deflates, it will hit someone.

43. marisacat - 30 August 2008

I heard a Army Corps of Engineers a few days ago. They make no assurances with regard to levees.

IIRC they were not strengthened beyond Cat 3, in any case.

I call it murder what will happen. cold premeditated murder

44. NYCee - 30 August 2008

Missed the Moyers, which I wanted to see. Will get on Sunday.

Enjoyed Bill Maher’s show last night. Had on Matt Taibi from the protest zone in Denver, reporting (with video) on what a joke that was, as well as on the Dems corporate funding $oirees.

Bill’s stupidly awkward analogy actually was called out (someone on past thread said there was no comment), referring to LA gangs as Taliban/Qaeda and how we should react, as in, leave Malibu (America) out of it, leave LA (Afghanistan) to deal with their crime. It was criticized by the Scottish late night talk host (NAME???!!! I never recall names… At this rate, I plan to just call everyone Joe and Josie when I hit the silver skids, or Golden Years.) Anyway, at least he was trying to say, stop bombing them. I give him a few plus points for that. (I heard 95 civilians were killed recently, by an American sortie… have to check for it. Wow. Blew my mind.)

Thing is, Maher really kept protesting and challenging the notion of jumping into more war with Afghanistan, under Obama. Complained that there is no debate over it. Also cited how middle class is mentioned all the time by Dems, why not the poor? I agree. Although I do think middle class gets hit a lot, and does need to be mentioned a lot.

I boycotted his show for over a year, a while back, when he liked to play in a more callous and hawk-idiot mode. A trifecta of big stinkers, stretching from Politically Incorrect days to HBO beginnings, made me quit him. But he’s getting more evolved with time, in my view. I think 8 years of Bush and lotza GOP has cured him of some of his more ludicrous flirtations with rightwing hawk/libertarian ideaRs. And he still goes after the Dems, as well. I laugh, I like.

45. NYCee - 30 August 2008

The Army Corps of Engineers does a lot of things WRONG, esp where our coasts are involved. They need a lot of oversight…

46. marisacat - 30 August 2008

NBC evenng news running early oout here (sports this evening? I have no idea) Latest computer models show it headed just west of NO, which I guess is why NOLA sees the West Bank getting hit.

The scenes of evacuation were depressing.

47. marisacat - 30 August 2008


oversight won’t be happening. We’ve been ill served by them as well, out here in CA.

When the US Corps of Army Engineers was rebuilding fucking toilets for the Kuwaiti Royal Faimly in the wake of Gulf War 91, pretty clear who mattered.

48. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

The Army Corps of Engineers does a lot of things WRONG,

The Army Corps of Engineers serves big money, development interests, Big Ag, Big Oil. What they do has NOTHING to do w/ keeping people safe.

49. baypraire - 30 August 2008

heres the Houma newspaper. a NYT owned local rag

The Houma Courier

right now the plot has it making landfall, near as i can tell, in between cameron and morgan city. this is the heart of cajun louisiana, acadiana. there won’t be any dancing tonight. theres a large high pressure area north of the coast. odds are slim to none of the storm coming about easterly if it deviates it most likely deviates west. the high pressure could also slow the storm in addition to pushing it westward as well. and thats not good, you want them to move fast, otherwise they stall and pour rain like you wouldn’t believe.

50. marisacat - 30 August 2008

oh yeah this will get interesting… The dueling emails! Et tu Obama? LOL

snip from Ben Smith:

Whatever the official attack is, however, there’s a remarkable broadside under way against Palin in e-mails and comments and blogs attacking her character, her readiness and her family life; and more responsibly, and perhaps more dangerously, in the new liberal reporting apparatus, parts of which — notably Talking Points Memo — have already begun zeroing in on elements of her record in Alaska.

51. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Looking over TPM (and boy it is a laugh a minute), I think Josh is s l o w l y catching on!

The merit of this argument aside, I think that this points to a general strategy that the McCain camp will adopt for the next few weeks. Palin will become a foil through which to attack Obama: if she’s inexperienced then so is he, if she has corruption problems then so does he, if he attacks her then he’s attacking women. And of course, every fault of his will be made to look worse than hers, because he wants to be President (it’s still a big step from the 2-slot to number 1). It will take some line blurring and fudging, but I expect the McCain camp to try to re-couch its personal attacks on Obama as self-righteous defenses of Palin.

52. marisacat - 30 August 2008

I notice media is being very white and polite about the Inside Edition story on The Car Accident and Biden’s propensity for stretching reality. I have not even bothered to check Drudgerina.

That won’t last, the trucker blogs have the story, and it was trucker who Biden has called “drunk” all these years with possibly not a shred of truth to it.

53. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Thanks for the Houma link bay…

dire headline I see there

Three-fourths of Gulf oil production cut off as Gustav nears

54. aemd - 30 August 2008

“and to enlist Sen. Clinton to hold on to women.”

LOL, oh jebbus, they so don’t get it, includin’ Josh @ TPM (Slow, deep breaths there guy). One more time with popcorn and iced beer, not all Clinton supporters are Democratic loyalists or even liberal.


For Gustav’s path, check with Jeff Masters, a hard core weather geek. He loves him some hurricanes.

BTW, did anyone catch the auto WordPress link at the top of this post? “Figure Flattering Options For Large Thighs” ?!?! LOL, strange times. How do those algorithms work?…..LOL

55. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Bob Parry of Consortium News with an overview of election season international deals, wheels, offers and arms brokering and whatever else… builds from the Anna Chennault/Nixon doings… etc…

56. marisacat - 30 August 2008


yeah very odd word connections they make.. popcorn to thighs?

57. marisacat - 30 August 2008

via Instapundit… he draws from a NY Post article… and all I can say to BidOb after their stutters and stammers —- try to get a coherent line going on impending disaster, it would be so presidential !! — and looking like lumps on a log this am at their breakfast at a diner, SNAP THE FUCK OUT OF IT.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Apparently, McCain’s way ahead on this: “John McCain and the GOP are considering scrapping political speeches and turning their St. Paul/Minneapolis convention into a ‘service’ program to help victims of Storm Gustav, The Post has learned. . . . The contingency plan – a worst case scenario if the storm devastates coastal areas – would turn Republicans into Red Cross-type volunteers who would help collect donations, food and goods to help storm victims.”

58. NYCO - 30 August 2008

A quick survey of the wimmenfolk in my family after the Palin pick reveals that “It shoulda been Hillary” is becoming a common theme, even among those who didn’t want her six months ago. The feeling (among these Dem-to-independent leaning types who aren’t really political junkies) is that the choice of Palin is transparent and insulting, and they would have rather had Hillary on the Dem ticket, either at the top or the VP, rather than have Palin be the supposed “woman in the game.”

59. wilfred - 30 August 2008

Very risky.
The more the Republicans play the Gustav card the more they remind everyone of Katrina. All it’s going to take is any network interviewing anyone of color on the Gulf Coast and they’ll remind the viewers firsthand of what this government did to them and how ZERO has been done by Bush, McCain etc in the interim.

60. marisacat - 30 August 2008


LOL I am just sure you are wrong aemd.. cuz Wapo says it is all about the wimmens.

The article is pretty funny, but reading between the lines it seems to me the R are having a ball.

Not all liberals were so cautious. Debbie Dingell, a loyal Clinton backer and the wife of Rep. John D. Dingell (D-Mich.), said she had been talking to women all day yesterday who felt “insulted” by the move. “This is just sheer political pandering,” she said. “I don’t think women are going to buy it.”

Pretty funny, speaking of Dingell, how about a card carrying NRA duel at high noon in Michigan?

What a hoot.

61. marisacat - 30 August 2008


already broken news… PFF and peeder hung up the old pen. Or ISP or whatever it is one hangs up when a blog is erased.

I think the note on his FP says for everyone to go home and read cookbooks or some such blither. Or open their own blog.

Something or other…

62. marisacat - 30 August 2008

I think the R shoudl remind people, and ti would be timely as Johnny Boy returns to the political rostrum next week, that HE was the Vpessa pick just 4 years ago.

63. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Enuf dumb to go around… via Ben Smith:

Overheard on the flight from Denver…

RedState catches former DNC chief Don Fowler on camera joking, as he flies back from Denver, that Hurricane Gustav is a sign that God supports the Democrats.

A bad moment for the party, and a reminder about the ubiquity of cellphone cameras.

As I said get a coherent line going about impending disaster. And it would have been so nice if it was not Democratic and R collusion that is destroying NO. If it was not decades of neglect that sunk NO, killed by BOTH PARTIES.

I sure wish Bush had been the only big bad man in America the past 8 years.

64. marisacat - 30 August 2008

LOL This was part of it two, between Fowler and taht slob Spratt:

For example, they made fun of Sarah Palin for several minutes, Fowler calling her “Dan Quayle” on steroids and Spratt creatively describing her as “just terrible.” They both agreed that, “Other than the simple fact that she’s a female,” she has nothing to offer.

65. wilfred - 30 August 2008

Evidently the person pushing hardest for Sarah Palin the last several weeks was none other than Rush Limbaugh. Something tells me it was Karl Rove feeding Rush Limbaugh though……

btw: Ratings of Obama’s speech on Thursday night that were estimated at 38 million have been revised to 40 million per the NY Times today.

66. liberalcatnip - 30 August 2008

61. I think the note on his FP says for everyone to go home and read cookbooks or some such blither.

Insanity Stew has come to an end.

This looks like a job for Mo Betta META. I’ll put a post up tonite so the newly homeless can spew. haha

(That doesn’t include you, David Byron.)

67. liberalcatnip - 30 August 2008

65. btw: Ratings of Obama’s speech on Thursday night that were estimated at 38 million have been revised to 40 million per the NY Times today.

And how many more millions will tune in Monday nite for dubya & darth vader? It’s like rubbernecking at a bad accident. People can’t help but watch.

68. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Who picked Obama?

Daley? Cuz you KNOW it was a ugly bunch of old white men, and none other.

I can’t wait for the books on this mess.

69. wilfred - 30 August 2008

#67 Don’t know LC but if i read the numbers for next week i’ll gladly report back!

70. marisacat - 30 August 2008

Media Matters makes a passing stab at Oh My! Sexism on the cables…

With reports that Sen. John McCain picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate, sexist commentary on cable news soon followed.

During the August 29 edition of CNN Newsroom, CNN anchor John Roberts said to congressional correspondent Dana Bash: “There’s also this issue that, on April 18, she [Palin] gave birth to a baby with Down syndrome. The baby is just slightly more than 4 months old now. Children with Down syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of vice president, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?” Bash replied: “That’s a very good question, and, I guess — my guess is that perhaps the line inside the McCain campaign […]

yada yada

71. liberalcatnip - 30 August 2008
72. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

Crackdown begins: Food Not Bombs house among Saturday raids

9:45 A woman named Heather Adams just came out of the Food Not Bombs house and gave Guntzel the following account: She arrived from Chicago at 3 a.m. this morning with plans to protest at the RNC. At 8 a.m. she woke up to find police in the house wearing riot gear and camouflage flak jackets. She says they had rifles drawn. Adams has a broken ankle, and when officers ordered her to roll over on her stomach, she says she was slow to do so and the officer, she says, pushed her with his boot.

Adams says one arrest was made. Nathanael Secor, a main organizer of FNB, was arrested on charges of conspiracy to riot, she says.

9:54: Guntzel says a Ramsey County warrant was served, and the house is now occupied only by law enforcement agents. Evidence has been taken out the back of the house. Adams said law enforcement took photos of maps of St. Paul which were present in the house, as well as house plants. Adams also said that a city inspector was on site as well. The house, according to one law enforcement official, has links to the RNC Welcoming Committee.

10:03: Guntzel has in hand a Hennepin County warrant. It indicates law enforcement was searching for incendiary devices, smoke bombs, urine and feces, and other items. See a transcription of the warrant here.

73. marisacat - 30 August 2008

…urine and feces…

Throw the cat box at the cops.

74. ms_xeno - 30 August 2008


I already read cookbooks. Then I dismember them, as collage lovers all over the series of tubes can attest.

Now HC will once again be challenging one-legged homeless senior citizens on the PATH train to fisticuffs. Poor Ficus and his 3,000,000 seedlings of Golden Man salvation will once-again have nobody to call from jail and scream at but blood relatives (“Whitey” or “Not-Quite-Whitey”) and the occasional undercompensated bail bondsman.

I weep openly.

OTOH, maybe we’ll see sabrina and Smithee around here once in awhile. I’ll miss MarketTrustee’s writing, and some others.

I thought the comedy highlight of PFF’s final week were a couple of MSOC fans, of all things, getting upset with Smithee for apparently forcing poor Mother Courage to lob crude sexual insults at him in order to save herself from his eeeeeeeeeeeevil.

75. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

More Protesters Arrested in the Twin Cities

We’re now hearing that “snatch squads” are picking up random people off the streets in the Twin Cities, and someone from Democracy Now has been detained.

76. ms_xeno - 30 August 2008


I still remember Jello Biafra’s Who Bombed Judi Bari CD. I reviewed it for a local art rag, now defunct.

Everything old really is new again.

77. marisacat - 30 August 2008


I will really miss Market Trustee… wish she (?) had done more diaries but the comments were stellar!

Oh I am sure Mother Courage could lift herself from her boredom bed to lob some crude sexual single entrendre. Much like SThief who was loyal to vulgar representations of moi, to the end. I did catch his CLose This BLog Down Peeder diary, or whatever the title was.

Very amused peeder was brought down by a FLUFFER, in fact a pfferfluffer.

78. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 August 2008

Nader, Barr could tip close states in November

WASHINGTON — If the presidential race ends up being as close as polls are finding, third-party candidates now polling in single digits could emerge as potential kingmakers in battleground states.

Independent Ralph Nader, who earned the “spoiler” label for drawing votes from Democrat Al Gore in 2000, is a factor this time in such states as Nevada, New Mexico and Pennsylvania.

Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, meanwhile, who draws more support from Republicans, is a factor in Florida, North Carolina and New Hampshire.

For example, Barr’s pulling 3 percent in North Carolina, according to a recent Zogby International poll — a potentially decisive margin in a reliably Republican state where Democrat Barack Obama is making a determined effort to compete.

“The fact that the race seems so close may very well throw North Carolina to the Obama camp, which I find astonishing,” said Duke University political expert Mike Munger, who also is a Libertarian candidate for governor. “We’re a Republican state in presidential elections.”

In Florida, Republican presidential candidate John McCain pulled 43 percent in the Zogby poll, with Obama at 40%. But Barr, a former Republican congressman from Georgia, pulled 3 percent.

“Florida has a tradition of some free thinkers,” said T. Wayne Bailey, political scientist at Stetson University in central Florida. “There’s some feeling that Barr might impact McCain. . . . The X-factor is that McCain has not fully brought to the base his genuine conservative credentials.”

Barr, noting his 11 percent showing in New Hampshire in the Zogby poll, explained his appeal. “Liberals who are tired of the Democratic Party acting as a doormat to the government’s assault against civil liberties,” he said, “and conservatives who are tired of the Republican Party’s reckless abandonment of fiscal responsibility, are all potential Barr voters.”

79. ms_xeno - 30 August 2008

Actually, the demise of PFF must take a back seat to the fascinating news that I hate Ms./Miss Knightly. I’m not even sure that I knew who she was before today, so bless the media for reminding me of how I’m supposed to behave towards somebody who’s famous, somehow/somewhere. Huzzah !

80. marisacat - 30 August 2008

oops Drudgerina has the Fowler vid. Top right. And I see it might be time for Michael Moore to hold his breath and not speak.

They all seem very sure of a win, no matter waht they do.

81. baypraire - 30 August 2008

While I understand this will create a hole in many of your lives

actually i’m going to celebrate the death of the worstest online misogynistic blog ever.

say goodbye to donkeytale! say goodbye to david byron! say goodbye to haircub! say goodbye to denali and krannt!

open bar! lets drink to good riddance! free drinks for eberybodie!

community blogs with competition for attention and self centering don’t work. plus the owner often turns out to be a twit. they always seem to go kinda disfunctional.

82. baypraire - 30 August 2008

at least thats what a little bird told me. maybe its scoopspacce. who knows?

quien sabe?

83. CSTAR - 30 August 2008

“Proof there is a god in heaven?” Yikes, this god dude sure doesn’t want to go away.

84. baypraire - 30 August 2008

and a last comment on the deceased pff.

banning isnt the major problem. its the erasures.

its unethical to erase posts. peeder. just disappeared “free” speech to a much greater degree then markous moulitsas ever did.


85. lucid - 30 August 2008

Ah, pffter poofters… must say I did find it mildly entertaining to browse through there every couple of days to see the latest rantings of rabid zionists. Agree with some of those I’ll miss – Market Trustee in particular was great. I do find it quite hilarious that Peeder decided to delete the whole thing though. That was almost Devorish of him.

86. mattes - 30 August 2008

peeder liked to serve what he did not want to eat.

oh, well.

Hope us outcasts find a home before winter. I still want the ability to write news diaries about Palestine.

87. mattes - 30 August 2008

My email in case another scooptype site opens.


88. marisacat - 30 August 2008

nhu thred


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