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Facing the wall… 12 September 2008

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.


Ike – 15 ft wall of water – Seawall Boulevard – Galveston – NYT photo

In case bay checks in from a computer in Austin… I have no idea how much time to get from the Gulf to Austin, in the bad traffic of the century.

Instant update… Here she is:


Wow, that Hackett diary stinks. Has he been hitting the bottle?

maybe it was the nitrates in those 1000s of bob evan’s breakfasts that made him lose his mind. or maybe he’s just another democratic party misogynist.

austin checking in, high and dry. drove during the night slept all day. later on i’ll weep for galveston. i hope that seawall holds it’s going to be very very close. ive already lost one city i loved in the last few years. even though its there, it isn’t. i’d hate to lose another. right now i think i’ll go out with friends and hear some music and get completely numb.

people are so much important than the things we build. things hardly matter in the long run. but its hard to catch a glimpse of the wonder of a human(s). its too fleeting. this is the best i can do about how i feel at this time.

storms past on youtube – 1900 storm – edison

architecture that may be lost if the seawall is breached.

Galveston Historical Association

google coordinates for the entrance to galveston bay, the bolivar roads.
29°21′18.18″N 94°45′57.75″W zoom out a few clicks. all that area is, or will be, inundated.

hang in there IB. i bet your brother is on an upper floor. he’ll be fine.



1. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 September 2008

I can’t even imagine that much water coming in en masse. I think the biggest wave I’ve ever seen was about 4 ft.

The mind boggles.

2. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

IB, that was nice of your brother’s neighbour to give him a pot roast. Lucky guy. Good to know he has people looking out for him.

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 September 2008

On a lighter note, from Houstonist: Hurricane Ike Bear

4. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

No, We Are NOT Being Played By Rove
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Next up:

Does the moon shine in Miami?

No, the moon does NOT shine in Miami

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 September 2008

Never underestimate the American ability to find an excuse to get blind drunk: Hunker Down & Drink

6. marisacat - 12 September 2008

Does the moon rise. Does the sun set.

I would think Rove would play with Dkos just for the hell of it. Assign the site to some ambitious 12 y/o Very Young Republican in Alabama.

7. marisacat - 12 September 2008

Obama reacts to Palin saying he might be regretting that Hillary non pick.


8. Intermittent Bystander - 12 September 2008

2 – Absolutely. Probably taking extra-special care of him as a Yankee newbie to this sort of thing.

3 – Furry vs. the Furies! LOL.

9. marisacat - 12 September 2008

Kaus has links to the quite nasty McCain ad on immigracion and Obama. In Spanish.


just past the top story on Lynn Forester de Rothschild

10. Intermittent Bystander - 12 September 2008

5 – Hope my brother doesn’t see that one.

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 September 2008


… making way for the real meaning of 9/11 — the brightest green light for the worst in humanity, or as chum Jon Schwarz gently puts it, an “enormous opportunity.” Those murderous lunatics on the planes brought to the surface what was already forming, a 21st century police state integrated with global capital rackets. The pretense of “Constitutional protections” finally given its last rites. I don’t know if global elites privately celebrate every 9/11, but they should. They’ve always been able to do whatever the fuck they wanted, but now it’s right in our faces. And apart from some kind of social uprising or genuine political upheaval, neither of which seems in the offing, there’s really not much We The People can do about it.

Against this grim backdrop, the presidential sweepstakes appears more ridiculous than ever. Of course the candidates had to say their requisite prayers over the 9/11 dead, posthumous props for their respective power grabs. The GOP’s political necrophilia is more inspired, and thus more tasteless, than what the Dems offer, but then, the mule party always seems hesitant to get Grand Guignol. As I’ve been saying in recent interviews, I don’t know why this is, considering the Dems’ rich, murderous legacy. At times I think Democrats are like Don Knotts: “The Shakiest State Terrorist In The West.” They’ll eventually kill you, but given all the bumbling before the act, it seems like a miracle that they can.

I think this is why Obama can’t shake McCain. For all of his soaring rhetoric and historic purpose, he’s now entering crunch time, and some stress is starting to show. Obama doesn’t look like a guy who can whip your ass, and for countless Americans, that’s a bad sign. Granted, Nixon didn’t appear all that imposing, but he surrounded himself with known gangsters and con men, which beefed up his profile. McCain’s old, yet he gives the impression that he’d get in a few solid shots, maybe bite off a piece of your ear or nose, before you finally took him out. And Sarah Palin? The woman looks crazed, and kills large animals from a fucking helicopter! A lot of Americans clearly love that, and on this front, Obama can’t compete. All he has is Joe Biden playing Harold Hill from “The Music Man.” Not the sidekick you want when boasting about your desire to kill hajji scum.

12. marisacat - 12 September 2008

oh I have to go read the full Perrin, that made me laugh pretty hard…

13. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

As annoying as KO is, he did a good job of knocking Palin’s interview tonite.

14. marisacat - 12 September 2008

Have to love it… Krauthammer says Gibson does not understand the Bush Doctrime. And if I have my scorecard right, Krauthammer is not a Palin fan

But it is so confusing! I thnk wingers and media should not form a pyramid of flesh.

15. marisacat - 12 September 2008

Link to Krauthammer. And while I am there, I see a cautionary headline from pre orgasmic Dionne. Quick! Incense! Holy Host! Holy Water!, a pre orgasmic in danger of gong down in the line of work!

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 September 2008
17. marisacat - 12 September 2008

Pew Forums take a look at Pentecostals.

From the time she was a teenager until 2002, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin attended a church affiliated with the Assemblies of God, the largest Pentecostal Christian denomination in the U.S. Pentecostalism emphasizes such practices as speaking in tongues, prophesying, divine healing and other miraculous signs of the Holy Spirit, which it believes are as valid today as they were in the early Christian church. Prominent Democrats, including CEO of the Democratic National Convention Committee Leah Daughtry and Director of Religious Affairs for Barack Obama’s presidential campaign Joshua Dubois, also are associated with Pentecostal Christianity. The Pew Forum’s U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, conducted in the summer of 2007, makes it possible to examine the demographic, religious and political characteristics of Pentecostals in the U.S.

18. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 September 2008

Pentacostals are batshit crazier than even other Xtians, and akin to the nutballs that walk through Iraq hitting themselves w/ swords and chains.

19. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

CNN: New Ike bulletin – Ike 1mph shy of Cat 3

20. marisacat - 12 September 2008

yes I know I loved the NYT story on Leah Daughtry. LOL Not jsut pentecostal but FAITH HEALER. And right hand woman to Dean, before chief of the DNC in Denver. Before that in McAuliffe camp. A place of high standards. Truths.. etc.

Who the fuck are thse people?

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 12 September 2008

Dean should be ashamed of himself promoting a witch doctor like that.

I’m ashamed I supported him.

22. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

You know what? Sarah Palin is Elizabeth Hasselback with brown hair. I’m convinced of it.

23. marisacat - 12 September 2008

And Dubois, who is religious outreach for Ob… iirc is associated with an Assemblies of God congregation as well… and comes from parents who were blind devotees of none other than DOBSON. He, being black, they did not even pick up on the PLANTATION aspect of Dobson.

Nor will Dubois reveal his position on abortion.

We are surrounded.

24. CSTAR - 12 September 2008

I just got back from a week of travel and have not been following much politics (thankfully)..I do know there is a hurricane though. A regular poster here, Bay Prairie lives in that area?

#9 Re the spanish McPain Palin ad is pretty nasty “Obama and his allies are ready to block immigration reform but not to govern.” It basically blames the failure of immigration reform entirely

I can report though that on my flight home, one of the NWA flight attendants definitely had the Palin look 🙂

25. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

A long clip from Moyer’s show:

BILL MOYERS: Speaking of good journalism, check out the front page story in the NEW YORK TIMES by Jackie Calmes. We’ll post it on our website at pbs.org. Calmes joined the TIMES after 18 years at the WALL STREET JOURNAL covering politics, economics and public policy.

In the TIMES this week, she tells an important back story to the government’s takeover of the mortgage banks Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This is a move that could drive up the national debt by as much as $200 billion. To come up with the cash, the Bush Administration is reaching deep into your and your kids’ pockets. With the help of the Center for Responsive Politics, Jackie Calmes came up with facts to help us try to understand how, over so many years, such wild mismanagement of both corporations was allowed to happen. Why weren’t the watchdogs barking? Where were the people’s representatives? The answer? Follow the money.

Both Barack Obama and John McCain say the Fannie and Freddie mess is the result of the cozy ties between lobbyists and politicians, the very thing they will “change” if elected. But guess what? Neither one of them has ever had, quote, “A record of directly challenging the companies.”

To the contrary, Obama is second among members of Congress in donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s employees and political action committees, even though he’s only been in the Senate since 2005. The former chairman of Fannie Mae originally led Obama’s vice presidential search committee but had to step down in a controversy over favorable loans he received, while at Fannie, from a company doing business with Fannie.

Among Obama’s contributors are three directors and one senior vice president of the two companies. Furthermore, Obama’s fellow Democrats in Congress have long been enablers of both corporations.

And what about John McCain? His entire campaign team stepped right out of a predator’s ball. His confidante and top adviser lobbied several years for Freddie Mac. His deputy fundraiser lobbied Fannie Mae, and his campaign manager lobbied for both of them, leading a coalition of beltway insiders whose goal was to “stave off regulations” that might have short circuited this nightmare.

One wealthy member of Freddie Mac’s board has contributed more than $70,000 to McCain and Republican Party members working for McCain’s election.

Even the guy who vetted John McCain’s vice presidential options is a former lobbyist for Fannie Mae.

This week, both Obama and McCain are speaking up for taxpayers, like you and me, who have to foot the bill. But locking the beltway barn door after the horse is gone leaves the stable smelling like you know what.

Now, Senator Obama denounces “golden parachutes” for the deposed execs of the two institutions. Now, John McCain blames Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s troubles on “cronyism” and “special interest lobbyists.” Beg pardon? Does McCain know that if he really intends to throw the bums out he’ll have to start with his own inner circle. As we’ve heard, you can rewrite the myth but you can’t rewrite the facts.

And that’s it for the JOURNAL. Remember, read Jackie Calmes’ story on our website at pbs.org. And we’ll also link you to the Center for Responsive Politics and some more delicious treats on the money trail.

26. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

Proposed new FBI rules draw civil liberties worries

Because you don’t have enough of those already…

27. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008
28. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008

Galveston prisoners still in jail

I guess the warnings of “certain death” weren’t enough to convince the state to evacuate them. Maybe they were an incentive considering Texas’ lust for the death penalty.

A sheriff’s office spokesman said the plan was for the prisoners and jailers to weather the storm in place — unless an evacuation took place later today. Sheriff’s office spokesman Maj. Ray Tuttoilmondo told the Houston Chronicle that the reason for not evacuating the prisoners is a security issue and cannot be discussed,

Right. Sure. Bullshit.

29. liberalcatnip - 12 September 2008
30. marisacat - 13 September 2008

The Metrolink train wreck near Chatsworth looked bad from the get go. The classic vision of little crumpled toys… the death count of 2 held for hours but did not seem possible.



bayprairie lives in the Houston area but has gone north to Austin. Intermittent Bystander’s brother tho is riding it out in the Houston area.

I bet it was nice to drop away from this run, from all politics in fact for a week…



thanks for the links.. I slept thru not only 20/20 (USA Mainlines a Shot of Sarah, LOL) but thru Moyers as well…

This is the link to this week’s Moyers’ on shock jock radio. he mentions the Calmes article in the NYT on Freddie Fannie.

But he neglects to add what Greider said a few weeks ago when he was on, about foreclosure and subprime. (I will find it) That the critical change in law came at the end of the Clinton administration.

Gotta love Moyers just so far and farther.


Listening to KGO radio, tightly tied to this Democratic machine city, power thru the night against Palin. A host I like, even… he claims he would have railed against Sibelius just as strongly had she been selected for the Dem candidate, Obi Wan Kenobi.. O sure right.

He’s basically said for FP he would prefer Cheney. “He at least would know what is going on”. It all falls apart.

The race is effectively remade, day after day, by the Democratic party as Palin v Obama. I think it might drive Obama slightly mad.

LOL He does agree that all parties, both tickets agree, we must ramp up in Afghanistan.

So blessed we are…

31. marisacat - 13 September 2008

Greider on with Moyer… He is the second half of the show, after they profile neighborhoods in Cleveland… which is suing several lenders.

I see rereading he mentions a big change in usury laws under Carter, at the end… but there was an additional change at the end of Clinton, will see if I can find something on it.

WILLIAM GREIDER: To make the story overly crude, Congress repealed the law against usury. It was done in 1980 by a Democratic Congress, Democratic President. And, of course, the Republicans all piled on and voted for it. And that was the first stroke, only the first of many, in which they stripped away the regulatory laws from the financial system and from banking.

And that allowed the free market modernized gimmicks of one kind or another, all these things we’re now reading about, to flourish. And that’s where we are. I mean, the gatekeepers said to the banking industry and to the financial industry, “We don’t think federal control or regulation is good for you, so we’re, therefore, liberating you to do your own thing.”

BILL MOYERS: So why did they do that in 1980? I mean, there was, of course, the rise of the backlash to regulation from 40 years of Democratic rule-


BILL MOYERS: -there was the rise, the arrival of the conservatives with their free market ideology.

WILLIAM GREIDER: Right, right.

BILL MOYERS: What was the issue?

WILLIAM GREIDER: Well, the driver then, and it was a powerful driver, was inflation. And through the ’70s, for lots of reasons inflation, which tends to undermine the value of financial wealth and money, was out of control. The Federal Reserve had lost control of it, not entirely its fault. But that set up a political climate that said the government is not working and that wasn’t wrong at the moment. Let’s get the government out of the way.

And that was very appealing as framed by Ronald Reagan and other conservatives. But I think it’s fair to say most Democrats yielded to it against whatever their original instincts were because of political necessity. And then the third dimension, maybe the most important, was that you had this very powerful industrial sector, that is banking and finance, that wanted and had pushed for years to get out from under the regulatory controls, limits on interest rates, the law against usury, the merger of commercial banks with investment banks, which had been prohibited in the New Deal because it caused the disaster of 1929.

I can go on and on. But you see the pattern. And the point I keep trying to make to people is that history learned the hard way that you do need prudential controls on industries like banking ’cause they’re so central to everybody’s well being.

BILL MOYERS: Left to their own devices, they go too far?

WILLIAM GREIDER: Yeah. They will use their power to their own advantage. And that’s what we’re witnessing now, a kind of recklessness that was set free by political retreat and people, some of them were sincere. Some of them were just on the make. But here’s our great American tension. We want an economy that’s dynamic, that’s growing, puts more jobs out there for people to get, rising wages, all that good stuff. And at the same time, we want an economy that’s stable. And that means no inflation, steady as you go, so forth and so on.

And this is the, you know, this is the mortal condition. You’re not going to escape that tension. Government is a powerful intervener that tries, ought to try, to balance those two desires. For many years, the Federal Reserve served that role and tried to strike a balance.

32. marisacat - 13 September 2008

LOL, sure the pope backs sarko…

Pope backs Sarkozy’s bid for religious values

By John Lichfield in Paris
Saturday, 13 September 2008

Pope Benedict and President Nicolas Sarkozy urged France yesterday to reconsider its strict separation of church and state and to allow religious “values” to influence public life.

M. Sarkozy and Pope Benedict XVI, at the start of his first visit to France, made speeches which were intended to calm – but may inflame – debate over the French “secular” tradition.

Pope Benedict called for a more “open” approach to secular government, which would accept the Christian “roots” of French society.

M. Sarkozy repeated a controversial call for a “positive secularism” which would allow religious – not just Christian – values to influence public life.

However, both men stressed their comments were intended to embrace and not divide France’s multi-religious society.

And you hve to love this:

The President – although not a regularly practising Catholic and twice divorced – generated heated debate in December when he suggested that religious, especially Catholic values, should be part of political life. Since 1905, France has maintained a strict separation of church and state.

33. marisacat - 13 September 2008

The Guardian has a piece up on early balloting. It opens in VA on September 22, then rolls across various states.

The early opening of the ballots in Virginia, a battlefield state which Obama hopes to take from the Republicans, partly explains why McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin, held a rally in the state on Wednesday and why a “Victory 2008” bus tour, packed with congressmen and McCain’s brother, Joe, set off yesterday on a voter registration drive.

Early balloting after Virginia opens in Idaho on September 22, Missouri the day after and Iowa, another state that Obama hopes to take from the Republicans, on September 25. In battlefield states that have often decided the outcome of recent elections, early balloting opens in Ohio on September 30 and Florida on October 20.

Those who vote early tend to be partisan, with their minds made up and unlikely to be swayed by the upcoming presidential debates, analysts say.

34. marisacat - 13 September 2008

hmm very strong odor of gas, reported from Beaumont TX… NBC

35. Intermittent Bystander - 13 September 2008

Ike just downgraded to Cat 1, but still battering at 90 MPH with higher gusts. Lotsa tornado warnings in play. Wind and rain from southern eyewall have been fierce all over. Storm center near Conroe now.

Galveston seawall seems to have held, which is good news.

36. marisacat - 13 September 2008

The whole “Bush Doctrine” thing has been a huge chuckle, via the Mike Allen Politico email:

YOU SHOULD KNOW — WashPost A1, ‘Many Versions of ‘Bush Doctrine’:

Palin’s Confusion in Interview Understandable, Experts Say,’ By Michael Abramowitz: ‘Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin seemed puzzled Thursday when ABC News anchor Charles Gibson asked her whether she agrees with the ‘Bush doctrine.’ ‘In what respect, Charlie?’ she replied. Intentionally or not, the Republican vice presidential nominee was on to something. … Peter D. Feaver, who worked on the Bush national security strategy as a staff member on the National Security Council, said he has counted as many as seven distinct Bush doctrines. They include the president’s second-term ‘freedom agenda’; the notion that states that harbor terrorists should be treated no differently than terrorists themselves; the willingness to use a ‘coalition of the willing’ if the United Nations does not address threats; and the one Gibson was talking about — the doctrine of preemptive war.’

37. marisacat - 13 September 2008


agree, it looks bad, harsh but less than it might have been. Sounds like a Cat 1 heads on to Arkansas…

Hope your brother is OK, IB…

38. marisacat - 13 September 2008

On the other hand, the train crash is looking far worse and, in CA, at least, we are now seeing wider shots of the accident. Quite a few cars burned to a crisp. They are conspicuously not mentioning the dead count. Villaraigosa looks rather stunned, which is common for him, out of it and stunned all at once. Inspires such.. you know, HOPE.

39. NYCO - 13 September 2008

Somebody on Houston TV is calling in from Galveston and reporting huge immovable chunks of concrete spewed all over the place… a “sea of debris” and they can’t figure out what it is.

Rather chilling.

(The 1900 hurricane memorial apparently has survived and is above water, however…)

40. NYCO - 13 September 2008

Also, earlier in the morning some reporter was stationed across the street from a chemical plant. “Oh, you look like you have power there,” said the in-studio anchor.

“Er, no” says the reporter, “that’s burnoff from the chemical plant” and went on to say that everyone was questioning if the (routine) burnoff was getting “a little big” and that it didn’t seem quite normal.

ai yi yi yi.

41. liberalcatnip - 13 September 2008

32. Let’s play Spot the Contradiction:

Pope Benedict called for a more “open” approach to secular government, which would accept the Christian “roots” of French society.

Looks like his popeyness is on a mini-crusade at a time when tensions with Muslims in France have already proven difficult to deal with at times. What the hell are those 2 thinking?

42. marisacat - 13 September 2008

The NBC/MSNBC reporter from Galveston talked about large chunks of concrete as well…

43. marisacat - 13 September 2008


dumb imo… farther down in the article (iirc) it says that while 70% of French citixenry identifiy as Catholic, only 5% attend church. hmm.

44. Intermittent Bystander - 13 September 2008

Thanks. Boston-based sister just made contact by cell phone, and he’s fine, though pooped. His apartment took a lot of water through the concrete walls and a ceiling leak, so he’s been moving stuff away from perimeters and mopping for much of the night. He’s still got power (he’s close to downtown), and was going to catch some sleep.

38 – LA Times is saying at least 17 dead, 135 wounded in train crash. Saw some live footage last night that seemed to indicate they were doing some emergency surgery right on the scene.

45. marisacat - 13 September 2008

Good news on brother, IB… and I imagine he is glad he stayed to sort of cope with the mess as it happened. Esp keeping electricity.


Well one report this am said EMT were only allowed to work 90 minute shifts at the trains, it was too horrible. So there you go.

46. NYCO - 13 September 2008

Something curious about Houston – and Galveston for that matter… these people live so close to the coast, to bayous, to water… why don’t you see anyone out there with boats in the flooded streets? Why is everyone trying to drive their SUVs around? weird.

47. marisacat - 13 September 2008

Somebody has to have boats, as there were brigades of all sorts of boats that went from Houston to NO and east on the gulf during Katrina to help…

48. CSTAR - 13 September 2008

For some pictures and more on the story here

According to Sarkozy, to do w/o religion

“serait une folie”, “une faute contre la culture et contre la pensée”

To do without religion would be crazy and a error going against culture and thought.

This sounds ominous.

Maybe Carla Bruni could seduce the pope…

49. CSTAR - 13 September 2008

That was a stupid remark of mine. Actually Carla Bruni is more civilized than either Sarko or Papanazi. We all say stupid things.

50. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008

I’m glad your bro is okay IB.

That train crash looks horrific. It’s so nuts that this country mixes so much freight traffic w/ higher-speed passenger trains. Our penny pinching gets people killed so needlessly.

51. marisacat - 13 September 2008

LATimes blogs is laughing at ob camp on the fractured fingers/emails thing…

[A]ccording to the Associated Press, Obama campaign manager David Pfouffle issued a stern campaign strategy memo Friday that said, in part:

“Today is the first day of the rest of the campaign. We will respond with speed and ferocity to John McCain’s attacks and we will take the fight to him, but we will do it on the big issues that matter to the American people.”

The “big issues.”

Like fractured fingers?

–Andrew Malcolm

52. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008

48 – Jeebus, that sounds like Franco.

53. marisacat - 13 September 2008


well she is kind of an enigma, as I see it. God knows the recording recently released was baaaad, and I am at least partial to breathy voices..

54. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008

Tina Fey ‘likely’ to play VP candidate Sarah Palin on ‘Saturday Night Live,’ AP learns

Fey is “likely” to return to her former show Saturday to play the Alaskan governor and Sen. John McCain’s running mate, a person close to the show told The Associated Press on Friday night. The person requested anonymity because the decision has not been announced officially. No further details were available.

Since Palin’s entry onto the national political stage, speculation had been rampant over who might play Palin on the program. Many have commented that Fey resembles her.

In an interview earlier this week with The AP, “SNL” executive producer and creator Lorne Michaels said, “The whole world cast her in that role.”

The final decision went down to the last minute, apparently. “SNL” premieres Saturday evening with Michael Phelps as host. An appearance had been planned by Sen. Barack Obama, but his campaign said early Saturday that the Democratic nominee for president was canceling.

55. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008

Assholes: Democrats challenge GOP to support compromise legislation on offshore oil drilling

S-Chip isn’t worth doing, but befouling the waters … drill baby drill!

The Senate next week will consider at least three proposals that call for an expansion of offshore drilling – one being developed by Democrats, another by Republicans and a third by a bipartisan group. All are expected to have some expansion of offshore drilling, but doubts remains as whether any of the proposals being considered will garner the needed 60 votes required to overcome a certain filibuster.

Salazar is part of the bipartisan group supporting a proposal that calls for both limited offshore drilling and taxing the oil industry, while funneling more money into renewable energy. Republican leaders have not embraced the compromise.

In his address, Salazar said many Republicans seem to believe that drilling alone is the answer to the nation’s energy problems.

“We need to replace the oil we import from countries that don’t like us with alternative energy sources that we produce right here at home. Biofuels. Wind. Solar. Hydrogen. Geothermal. Clean Coal. American energy, American jobs. That’s what we need,” he said.

56. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008
57. marisacat - 13 September 2008

lots of photos around of the Houston Chase building, one side took a real hit. All the windows are gone.

pop up gallery at Houston Chron

58. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008

Naomi Klein Strikes Back at Critics of Her ‘Shock Doctrine’ Book

One year ago, I set off on a book tour to promote The Shock Doctrine. The plan was for it to last three months, quite long by publishing standards. Twelve months later, it is still going. But this has been no ordinary book tour. Everywhere I have traveled- from Calgary, Alberta to Cochabamba, Bolivia — I have heard more stories about how shock strategies have been used to impose unwanted pro-corporate policies. I have also been part of stimulating debates and discussions about how the current round of crises — oil, food, financial markets, heavy weather — can be transformed into opportunities for progressive change.

And there have been other kinds of responses too. The Shock Doctrine is a direct attack on the intellectuals and institutions that have disseminated corporatist ideology around the world. When I wrote the book, I fully expected to get hit back. Yet for eight months following publication, there was an eerie silence from the “free-market” ideologues. Sure, a few dismissive reviews appeared in the business press. But not a word from the Washington think tanks that I name in the book. Nothing from the University of Chicago economics department. Even The Economist magazine, which used to attack me gleefully and with great regularity, never mentioned the book in print. An American television producer, who was trying to find an opponent to debate me on-air, confided that she had never been turned down so consistently. “They seem to think if they ignore you, you’ll go away.”

Well, the silence from the right has certainly been broken. In recent months, several articles and reports have come out claiming to debunk my thesis. The most prominent are a “background paper” published by The Cato Institute, extended into a full length book in Swedish (!), and a lengthy essay in The New Republic by senior editor Jonathan Chait.

Several readers have written to asking me to respond to these attacks, if only to help them defend the book more effectively. I resisted at first (clinging to my summer vacation) but I appreciate the feedback and several points do need correcting. Since the reports by Cato and The New Republic — though purporting to come from radically different points on the political spectrum — share some marked similarities, I’ve decided to tackle them together. Here goes.

59. marisacat - 13 September 2008

HA!..In Paris, Benedikt appeals to the people to avoid worship of hte twin evils, power and money.

Oh yeah he looks so humble and .. you know: POOR

60. NYCO - 13 September 2008

56. Most of those Galveston photos are from yesterday afternoon, though.

61. marisacat - 13 September 2008

the real meat is on page 2 of this Politico article on why McCain/camp will be staying negative.

When the August “celebrity” ads cut through the clutter and, for the first time in the campaign, put Obama on defense, McCain aides felt they’d gotten their answer about whether tougher was smarter.

Similar affirmation came when Obama first suggested McCain would bring race into the campaign — and the Republican side smothered the tactic by countering that it was Obama who was playing the race card.

McCain strategists now have became even more sure of themselves after the picture-perfect reaction — in the GOP’s view — to the decision to put Palin on the ticket. The choice provoked derision from elites, jubilation among conservative voters long skeptical of McCain and uncertainty from Obama about how to respond. If you are a McCain staffer, it doesn’t get better than that — so who cares that the candidate had met her only once and her chief foreign policy credential seems to be that she lives closer to Russia than other Americans.

With polls moving in their direction and a unanimous view in the political world that the fundamentals of the race have changed dramatically in the past few weeks, McCain aides aren’t about to drop a flood-the-zone approach that they believe has worked. “Most people would have been afraid to have called him out on race,” boasted an adviser. “And we’re not going to let sexism or denigration of her go unchecked now.”

On all three counts — their portrayal of Obama as a celebrity, outrage at his purported use of race and his flat-footedness and confusion on how to respond to Palin — McCain aides saw weakness and indecision.

And on the other side I see Plouffe raising a skinny white arm, saying we will defend ourselves! We will! Soon!

“Clearly we intend to stay on offense,” Rogers said. “That’s what we need to do because the campaign is fundamentally about him. We feel comfortable about the ads we’re running and arguments we’re making.”

And, given their surge in the polls and Obama’s uncertainty about how to respond to the Palin phenomenon, they’re going to keep it up.

“Unless there is a hurricane, they’re going to cover it,” he observed.

Added Terry Nelson, McCain’s former campaign manager: “It works in part because Obama responds to it.”

62. NYCO - 13 September 2008

Still don’t understand why sending e-mails is considered a critical commander-in-chief skill.

63. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008

Weren’t they attacking Obama for saying he would do this? Bush secret order to send special forces into Pakistan

A secret order issued by George Bush giving US special forces carte blanche to mount counter-terrorist operations inside Pakistani territory raised fears last night that escalating conflict was spreading from Afghanistan to Pakistan and could ignite a region-wide war.

The unprecedented executive order, signed by Bush in July after an intense internal administration debate, comes amid western concern that the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and its al-Qaida backers based in “safe havens” in western Pakistan’s tribal belt is being lost.

Following Bush’s decision, US navy Seals commandos, backed by attack helicopters, launched a ground raid into Pakistan last week which the US claimed killed about two dozen insurgents. Pakistani officials condemned the raid as illegal and said most of the dead were civilians. US and Nato commanders are anxious to halt infiltration across the Afghanistan-Pakistan border of insurgents and weapons blamed for casualties among coalition troops. The killing of a US soldier in eastern Afghanistan yesterday brought American losses in 2008 to 112, the deadliest year since the 2001 intervention. The move is regarded as unprecedented in terms of sending troops into a friendly, allied country.

But another American objective is the capture of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaida leader held responsible for organising the 9/11 attacks. He and his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are thought to be hiding in the tribal areas of north and south Waziristan.

Hopin’ for that October surprise.

64. marisacat - 13 September 2008


well I don’t think they are critical. Think ob camp is just pushing it.

65. marisacat - 13 September 2008

All of them agree, Afghanistan/pakistan is the about to be hotter than hot spot. And Ob def said a few months ago, that with actionable intell (or something similar, we are not picky!) he’d be sending forces across.

They should agree to agree… LOL

66. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 September 2008

65 – yup, tired of the con of two “different” parties, especially when it comes to war.

The bloody rise of the vote hunter

All this talk about moose hunting! It is as though, because of the animal’s enormous size and imposing antlers, bringing one down is a heroic feat of marksmanship. Nothing could be further from the truth. As Henry David Thoreau wrote in The Maine Woods, killing these big, gentle, myopic creatures is more “like going out by night to some woodside pasture and shooting your neighbour’s horses”.

Thoreau’s descriptions of the moose he saw in Maine are inspired and fanciful: “They made me think of great frightened rabbits”; “It reminded me at once of the camelopard”. And he alludes to the moose’s “branching and leafy horns – a sort of fucus or lichen in bone”. In all these descriptions there is affection and awe. The killing of a moose is in Thoreau’s view always a tragedy. He witnessed one being shot, and “nature looked sternly upon me on account of the murder of the moose”. In another passage, Thoreau grudgingly acknowledges that moose are hunted by Indians out of necessity – for their meat, for their hides, as part of Indian custom and tradition. This was in 1853.

American politicians seldom take notice of American writers, especially the boldest ones, like Thoreau, whose every word is at odds with their grovelling and grandstanding, and their sanctimonious cant. Think of the average politician today and then reflect on how Thoreau had no time for organised religion, how he mocked clergymen, jeered at missionaries, warmongers and Bible-thumpers. He was a defender of John Brown and the rebellious spirit in American life, and especially a proponent of human rights. He hated the thought of the wilderness being opened to development; he wrote scathingly of lumberjacks and logging operations. He would have cheered the demonstrators and sign-carriers outside the Republican convention in St Paul. He would have mocked the people inside. He would have denounced the prison at Guantánamo. He wrote against injustice; he despised politicians and hunters.

And yet, as we saw at the Republican convention, hunting seems to define a certain species of American politician. It’s nothing new. When Teddy Roosevelt left office he travelled to Africa, and – in the role of evil twin to the Biblical Noah – hunted down and killed two (and sometimes 18) of every species of animal that could be found from the Kenyan coast to the swamps of southern Sudan: total bag, 512 creatures. In his account of the safari, African Game Trails (1910), he wrote: “The land teems with beasts of the chase, infinite in number …”

“Infinite” is credulous hyperbole – many of those animals are now extinct or severely endangered. Take the bongo, a large African antelope – nearly as large as a moose – now almost gone, because of hunters and poachers. In Uganda, where it roamed in sizable numbers when I lived there, it has been wiped out. Maurice Stans, the disgraced Nixon commerce secretary, helped in the effort to eradicate this gentle animal when, in the 1960s, he sicced his dogs on them – the conventional way to corner a bongo – then presumably gestured to his gun bearer (“Here is your bunduki, bwana”), and shot two of them, as trophies. It was not an incidental act: Stans defined himself politically as a big-game hunter.

67. NYCO - 13 September 2008

For that matter, it doesn’t take “skill” of any kind to be president. It mostly takes the ability to build an organization (and by “organization” I mean one of insiders) and to keep that organization; and, of course, some charisma and “selling ability” to the public is also a plus. In fact, I’d say any president only ever has to make a handful of key defining decisions during their tenure — and these decisions are usually things that come up unexpectedly.

Yet there is apparently a large techno-wanker segment that believes that a familiarity with e-mail is somehow a critical skill for world leaders. Folks, they have secretaries to do that for them. It isn’t any more important for a president to know how to send an e-mail than it was for Louis XIV to know how to wipe his own Little Louis after a pisse.

68. marisacat - 13 September 2008

Yes I agree.. but the Ob camp are children of the hyper active techno age. So they have to say it matters, hence they matter.

As I see it.

I think it is fine to be steeped in your era and your technologies (and why would you not be), but when you start to present yourself to the VOTER, better smarten up, or you will be running TV ads being nasty about 80s era sensibilities to FL retirement home voters. Course Fl is steadily moving to the McC column… but the idea travels.

McCain (imo) may be a nasty crazed old white guy hell bent for the war he had to leave behind but Ob and Co have more than a few problems of their own.

69. NYCO - 13 September 2008

Here is a Twitter feed from people on the ground in Galveston:


70. Heather-Rose Ryan - 13 September 2008

66, from the Theroux article:

In a book Sarah Palin probably has not read (someone as philistine and driven as she is doesn’t seem to have much time for reading, as her quest to ban books in the Wasilla public library probably indicates), Thoreau remarked

This is the kind of throwaway, kneejerk Palinslam (or perhaps we should call them Palindrones?) that we now see coming from “liberals” everywhere. There is absolutely no basis for this remark of Theroux’s. It comes entirely from prejudice.

I would say it’s more likely that Palin has read The Maine Woods than Obama has, as she appears to have more interest in the outdoors.

As for her reading skills/inclinations, we don’t know much about them, except that I saw an interview with her father on the CNN website in which he said she read the newspaper from front to back every day as a young girl.

71. NYCO - 13 September 2008

I’m finding that the Austin American-Statesman has better coverage of the hurricane, especially on Galveston, than the Houston media does.

For instance, they are noting that “shoppers” are picking up souvenirs from destroyed Galveston landmark establishments. I guess it’s “shopping” when it’s white people taking tiki statues, but “looting” when it’s nonwhite folks taking food and shoes. Check.

72. marisacat - 13 September 2008

knew thead


……………. 8) ………………

73. NYCee - 14 September 2008


I’m shocked over Louis Quatorze.

Whether by his hand or that of another, I’ve never known, or known of, any guy who bothered to wipe “his own Little Louis after a pisse.”

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