Somehow, this does not look great to me… 2 October 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War, WAR!.trackback
An armed member of a Sunni Arab Awakening Council walks past children in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad. The Iraqi government has taken over responsibility for paying members of the councils. [AFP via BBC’s Day in Pictures, October 1 2008]
I have caught several of Dexter Filkins‘ appearances for his new book, the title alluding to endless war… I did hear a comment from him, right at the end of his appearance on Charlie Rose, about how much he supports this war and “believes” in it. I wondered at the very moment he said it, if he heard himself. I think he has played it the other way round, frankly… and certainly the NYT book review pushes that posture.
The work Filkins accomplishes in “The Forever War” is one of the most effective antitoxins that the writing profession has produced to counter the administration’s fascinating contemporary public relations tactic. The political leadership’s method has been the dissemination of facts reversed 180 degrees toward the quadrant of lies, hitherto a magic bullet in their never-ending crusade to accomplish everything from stealing elections to starting ideological wars. Filkins uses the truth as observed firsthand to detail an arid, hopeless policy in an unpromising part of the world. His writing is one of the scant good things to come out of the war.
It reminded me of a C-Span panel I caught years ago, with Shadid, whose writing I had certainly read in the Wapo. At one point he said of the actual invasion, take over of Baghdad (remember that flawless operation), that he thrilled to see the “power of my country”.
hmm Nationalism, jingoism, unnecessary regional war as thievery, murder, occupation, pure utter mindless destruction, deprivation and depravity… Well fine, Dexter, you belly right up to that bar. Go ahead.
JUAN GONZALEZ: And, of course, here, in this country, as the number of US casualties has declined, so has the attention in the media or in the public to the situation in Iraq, and everyone has now bought into the thought that things are getting better.
ROBERT FISK: Ha ha ha, yes. Look, the degree of ethnic cleansing that actually took place—genocidal, in some ways—and the fact that the Americans have now built walls through every community in every major city in Iraq, which has divided between the communities, means that there isn’t, in fact, any free flow of movement. There isn’t a country operating anymore.
But now, I mean, if you stand back a little bit and look at it like this, first of all, we went to Afghanistan, we won the war. Then we rushed off to Iraq and won the war. Then we lost the war in Iraq, or maybe we won it again. And then we’re going back to Afghanistan, where we seem to have lost the war, to win it all over again. And in due course, perhaps we’ll have to go back to Iraq. I mean, in my reports, I’m calling this Iraqistan. And now, we’ve actually got soldiers on foot turning up in Pakistan. I mean, has nobody actually stood back and said, “What on earth are we doing out there?” I mean, I calculated for our Sunday magazine that we now have twenty-two times as many military personnel per head of population as the Crusaders had in the twelfth century. You know, what are we doing?
It was a baker in Baghdad who asked me this very obvious question. He said, “Why are you”—“you” meaning Western military—“Why are you in Kazakhstan and Tajikistan, French air base at Dushanbe running close as support for the British in Helmand province in Afghanistan? Why are your people going into Pakistan? Why are you in Afghanistan and Iraq? Why are you in Turkey? Why are you in Jordan and Egypt and Algeria? US Special Forces have a base outside Tamanrasset in the southern Sahara. Why are you in Bahrain? Why are you in Oman? Why are you in Yemen? Why are you in Qatar? Biggest US air base.” I didn’t have a reply.
We are so marketed.
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LOL I read a sort of sideswipe about this in The Note this morning, but just caught up to it… Take it away Harry!!
From CNN — “Insurers plunge on Reid’s ‘bankrupt’ remark“:
Several big life insurance stocks fell sharply Thursday, dragged down by jitters about their role in the credit crisis and fears sparked by a comment from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., Wednesday about a potential bankruptcy in the industry.
“We don’t have a lot of leeway on time. One of the individuals in the caucus today talked about a major insurance company. A major insurance company — one with a name that everyone knows that’s on the verge of going bankrupt. That’s what this is all about,” Reid said prior to the Senate’s approval of the $700 billion bailout bill.
Steven Schwartz, an analyst who covers insurance companies for Raymond James & Associates, said that even before Reid made his bankruptcy comment, investors were growing worried about life insurers’ exposure to real estate as well as “secondary exposure” via investments in troubled finance firms like Lehman Bros, Wachovia and Washington Mutual.
But the comment from Reid clearly caused even more fear. “Harry Reid didn’t help any,” Schwartz said.
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Other than that, Palin UP! I think all Biden has to do, if he can, is look straight forward, not bare and clench his teeth (if you have not seen it, it is quite something) — and be a man of few words.
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ADDED: Wing Woman is Winged!
Via The Page off Politico:
Palin’s hand will be bandaged, following a spill while running at McCain’s Arizona ranch.
HA! SP is arrving with a damaged arm and I forgot, Gwen Ifill is on crutcches, from the broken ankle. Gotten, iirc, carrying debate prep materials on a stairway.
What does it all mean? LOL
more proof that life just isn’t fair?
My first thought was a lupine trap injury, I must confess.
Speaking of sprung traps . . .
I think all Biden has to do, if he can, is look straight forward, not bare and clench his teeth (if you have not seen it, it is quite something) — and be a man of few words.
Exhibit A! (From this – a kos-linked satirical slideshow on Biden’s debate prep.)
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hmm I missed this in the TimesOnline, but here is TO with it:
After Shenzhou Success, China Looks to the Future
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LOL and that is just revving up… I posted a vid that I won’t hunt for now, a few days ago, of Biden on the trail faking anger, r soemthing. Teeth clenching and baring was a large part of the pantomime.
What a hoot!
6 – and that is just revving up
Egg-zackly!
Just watched some more Couric clips on Jon Stewart, and goodness gracious, hasn’t that wily, all-powerful GOP done a heckuvajob lowering expectations for tonight? My word!
Between the two of them, I just can’t shake the feeling I’ve had all day – A Comedy Tonight!
By Stephen Sondheim, from A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, a href=”http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/comedyto.htm”>A Comedy Tonight!
(Link above with lyrics and chords is courtesy of the idiosyncratic personal home page of a self-described computer nerd and folk singer who makes liqueurs, collects playing cards, and designs costumes for sci-fi conventions. Thanks, Gunther, for the pop-up free Google result!)
Apologies, Gunther! Link.
Gaffe-a-rama time! You betcha!
“Hey can I call you Joe?” lol
“betcha” Drink!
wellllllllllll we are all friends of Joe Lieberman. gah. “both sides of the aisle”.
She looks nervous.
“gettin’ business done”
Oh and now she’s doing her whispy excited voice.
“darn right!”
Mon dieu. Darn tootin’!
Did Biden sigh?
Isn’t that illegal? (Gore truly screwed up there, I am nto laughing)
darn right!
can i get some pop?
Obama aide praises Pentagon chief Gates
darn right!
hey! question. of lincoln-douglas was political theater
is this political cartoon theater?
or a political theater cartoon?
lol – she basically just told both of them to F off with their darn falutin’ questions.
I think SP of 2006 showed up tonight.
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cartoon-a-rama
Biden is exposing his Inner Angry Joe now. Ruh roh.
hmm Ithink maybe with that “call yu Joe” stuff she was establishing some equality. From her point of view.
Interesting to watch… 😉
Inner Angry Joe: Let me at ‘er!!
well i just someone makes sure porky pig doesn’t miss his cue.
Current TV is running Tweets and text messaging over the debate, on the bottom of the screen.
oh shiite!
left out the HOPE!
I have this theory that the old guys (and women in congress too) can’t hold up long at all. They are simply unused to opposition… of any kind.
Like Obey calling the mother of a serving mil, about to be redeployed for the third time to Iraq, ”You Liberals…”, in that hallway incident.
They just cannot take it.
BTW, I saw a side shot of Boxer today that showed her age. hard. Most of the senate is TOO FUCKING OLD.
Verrrrry interesting! Including Ifill!
20 – Mystery Political Science Theater 3000?
She’s really trying hard to bait him, and he’s having a hard time holding himself back.
I still can’t stand watching two people refuse to answer questions.
Bless the hearts of those CEOs!
yeah she is trying ot bait. At one point I saw a tic under his left eye.
is he campaigning FOR Palin?
What a hoot!
he keeps calling her “she”. It is going to get noticeable at some point.
Biden signed.
well im sorry im not thanking john mccain for jack shit.
she’s a “mainstreeter”?
What the hell does that mean?
Oh, Mr. Bankrupcy denial wants to let people have them again?
drill baby drill!
DRINK!
Correction! Bless the hearts of those greedy, corrupt CEOs!
Toxic mess on Main Street?
“I don’t want to argue about the causes.”
She’s really pushing it – trying to make the debate into exactly what she wants.
LOL … I don’t want to admit that I’m a lunatic who doesn’t believe science!
43. Exactly.
less than 30 minutes used up. It goes on like this, a big draw… again.
clean coal is an oxymoron.
We’ll clean up the planet as soon as our hard-workin’ volunteers get finished with that little job on Main Street. Betcha!
So far, Biden doing much better at controlling his face than I naturally feared. wonders if he’s been sent to nutritionists or other corporal advisors for this run
I’ll put up with you freaks. You betcha!
Biden was pretty good on gblt rights. that was a nice surprise.
oops, and then he blows it. blunt no on gay marriage.
when they p[rattle “committed” I always think of insane aylums.
well Obama will barely speak to gay groups. Cannot believe they have not noticed. His dodge is that he lectures black people to love them other types.
51 – LOL. Chronological vintage issue – remembering when commitment was an unfortunate thing!
oh no its a polka dotted flag of surrender
We’ll know we’re finished in Iraq . . . when Iraq can secure its people.
You first, America!
talibani!!!!
ooooooooooooooo Finger Shake! Big fat finger shake!
Inner Angry Joe: If I didn’t smile, I’d be over there ripping her you betcha little vocal chords outta her throat.
You can just hear that “Jane, you ignorant slut” tone in his voice.
VP Debates, Mortal Kombat Style
“nukular” Drink!
NEW RULE: you’re NOT allowed to scaremonger nukes if you pronounce them incorrectly.
castro brothers? they’re older than mccain aren’t they?
I don’t know who started the joke about Biden, that you expect him to start screaming:
Get the squirrwels off me!
but he sure has that vibe.
“our respect for women’s rights” Coming from her?? That’s rich.
yeah kissinger’s passion. heehee.
she saved the dance card, didnt she?
Grrl’s gotta get that penchant for blood and gore unner control.
Way too much glee in quote about Israel as stinking corpse!
“Spain” Bonus point. Drink!
62 – NEW RULE: you’re NOT allowed to scaremonger nukes if you pronounce them incorrectly.
Seconded!
“That will be top of an agenda item…”
Huh?
Embassy in Jeruselem. Boy, they are just BEGGING us to be bombed more.
dueling Israel felating!
oh here we go…”no one’s been a better friend to Israel than Joe Biden”…hate mail on the way from Lieberman.
bay – Didja see this?
Bluegrass legend Ralph Stanley cuts Obama radio ad.
oh oh … HEAVY SIGH!
Oh that annoying smile. Mon dieu.
Teeth!
change is comin’?
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heavy long sigh.
72 – For shame. Why should Lieberman surrender such a sacred crown?
Ummm what?? She’s doing a Miss Teen S Carolina again.
73! no i didn’t. thanks for the headsup.
McCain better go and get that nutball fundie Ricky Scaggs (love his music, but he’s a wacko) to cut a competing ad.
Ralph Stanley is a national treasure.
Can we talk about Afghanistan because that’s what’s next on my cheat sheet.
Biden lol – 2 pointy fingers this time.
bodies? no! building schools!
what a crock.
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig sigh.
what is up with him? Stuff it.
Bosniaks? Aren’t they Bosnians?
86. what is up with him?
He’s tired of her bullshit and can’t play a drinking game to deal with it.
woo hoo … lets bomb Africa!
bait bait bait……………………
what in the hell is he talking about? shit, hes like light speed around the war zones
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well you know despite soem of the yutubes around, biden claims never ot have drunk at all. Ever. Or for 40 years, which ever is longer.
LOL
so palin invests alaskan funds outside of the united states?
i’d work that one.
maybe she got a good deal on pat robertson’s diamond mines?
john mccain knows how to win a war!
vietnam?
so…….Biden assumes that question was about [post assassination?
Way to go. Lvoe all the death they cram down our throats.
Ifill blooper: Everybody’s waiting to see . . . what happens if their respective No. 1s croak?!
96 – If it bleeds, it leads, Marisacat!
I think I would slit my wrists if I suddenly found myself living on main street in Wasila fucking Alaska.
government get out of my way.
hey it worked for wall street
“There you go Joe…dog gonnit'”
OMG I wish I drank. (almost)
oh dog gone it. god bless her, reward in heaven, blah blah blah
why doesn’t she just put on some daisy dukes, put a stem of grass in her teeth and show a little more cleavage while she’s at it? The whole folksy sex pot / wholesome mom schtick is past tired.
Teach everything EXCEPT evolution and sex ed, of course!!!!!
nobody gets extra credit.
say it ain’t so Joe + there you go again + doggone it + bless something or other + + +
That’s gotta be a bingo on some card somewhere.
Whoa . . . watch the lame jokes when the moderator’s on crutches!
103. You forgot the pickup truck and the gun rack.
106 – and the dog.
99 – You’re as dour as a Scotman, MitM. Check your lightbulbs! Suck limes!
Beacon of Dope, maybe!
(darn your high-falutin consonants to heck!)
i get it. shes a grant wood painting.
dead wife … DRINK!
Did he tear up?
he is the man we need to leave!
YES!
108 – is that why I’ve watched The Highlander so many times?
is there a cliche she won’t repeat?
good knowledge of barlett’s book of teevee cliche’s
I have a bandaid for your booboo and it has John the Maverick’s pic on it. You betcha.
REAGAN …
…. drink twice!
need a palate cleanser?
Harry Belafonte’s political ballad about the DNC — footage from the lost Smothers Brothers season
FINALLY. Holy sweet crap, Batman.
Barack is Ready! Pass it along!
waaaaaaaaaayyy too huggy buggy there at the end.
Homer Simpson’s Election Day Nightmare
new thread………………………
LINK
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MIssed the ending visuals, but Brokaw’s spinning a forgettable draw, with respectful Palin kudos on NBC.
114 – OK, Madman. Now it’s war.
Paints face. Tosses haggis.