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Sunday… ;) 19 October 2008

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.


From the sweet little Galveston beach getaway (or, it was .. pre Ike) that bay linked to the other day, Texas White Pelican B&B

You have to love the “change” that is coming, from the Politico email:

‘Like the apostles of Jesus who expected their Messiah to return in triumph before they themselves died, many liberals are almost certain to be disappointed in a President Obama. ‘I think right now people are in a pragmatic mood, not an ideological mood,’ says David Axelrod, Obama’s chief strategist. Perhaps, but on the off chance that ideology is on the mind of a voter or two, Axelrod’s candidate has taken care to avoid the L word.

Obama opposes gay marriage; talks about tax cuts, God and veterans’ benefits; and is spending money to try to remain competitive in traditionally Republican states such as Virginia, North Carolina and even West Virginia, where Hillary Clinton trounced him earlier this year.

‘I think he will govern a little right of center,’ says Harold Ford Jr., the former Tennessee congressman and chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council. ‘He is not an ideologue.’

… Understanding the forces behind the usual Republican hold on the White House explains much about the country, and is essential to Obama’s potential success if he were to win, for the most effective presidents have had an appreciation of the nation’s intrinsic tendency toward conservatism.


AND I do believe The New Yorker has hit bottom.  Packer embraces Frum.  It’s been a long and greasy slide to the magazine being nothing other than election season, shallow, party affiliated shills devotees masticating.  Packer is a cowardly standard bearer and, in this, two greased pigs consummate congealment.  Three, actually.  The magazine, Packer and Frum – and there is not enough butter sauce on earth to make that meal taste good….

Frum is doing something that’s quite rare across the spectrum of American politics: holding his side to the same standard as the other side. I was happy to read him firing back at his new detractors on the right; I was also happy to see him telling Rachel Maddow, of MSNBC, to elevate the tone and substance of her new talk show. Having written a mistaken book about his former boss (Frum was a speechwriter during Bush’s first term), he has reckoned with a core reason for the failure of Bush’s Presidency: the White House worshipped at the false altar of strategic communications, asserting its own version of reality rather than grappling with contrary arguments and facts. The fact that Frum is now being attacked for asking his party to stop doing the same thing shows how long the road to recovery is going to be for Republicans.

This is the magazine that consistently, across the years, opposed the Vietnam war.

Bravo!  Punditry, and it’s bawling baby wars, is the Colossus of the transformational New Newer Newest World.


From bay, from the previous thread:

its a mark of “distinction” for the democrats to be lauded by a former officer who, in response to the 1968 letter informing gen creighton abrams of “routine and pervasive brutality against Vietnamese civilians” is on the record saying:

“In direct refutation of this portrayal is the fact that relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent.”

*** close of comment ***


And Madman had this link, I have added a snip or two… 😉

Cronytopia: What the World Knows — and Americans Don’t — About the Bailout

So while Americans looking at the nations’s “leading newspaper,” the New York Times, found a vast belching of psychobabble and personal gossip about Cindy McCain taking up the front page, the rest of the world was learning this:

Financial workers at Wall Street’s top banks are to receive pay deals worth more than $70bn (£40bn), a substantial proportion of which is expected to be paid in discretionary bonuses, for their work so far this year – despite plunging the global financial system into its worst crisis since the 1929 stock market crash, the Guardian has learned.

Staff at six banks including Goldman Sachs and Citigroup are in line to pick up the payouts despite being the beneficiaries of a $700bn bail-out from the US government that has already prompted criticism. The government’s cash has been poured in on the condition that excessive executive pay would be curbed.

The Guardian errs a bit in that last sentence, of coure. Almost all of the “conditions” mentioned in connection with the bailout have no teeth whatsoever, no enforcement mechanism, no real penalities. They are more properly termed “suggestions,” or rather, “PR exercises that we hope our Wall Street lords will deign to at least pretend to follow for a short time, until the heat is off.”

And Chris Floyd is right, up there, in identifying the diversion, one of the big ones this year, was Woman, in all her parts and pieces. Splayed and displayed. I don’t have to agree with them politically (and I agree with NO ONE on the political scene) to see what is happening.

As an antidote, I’d recommend renting Bardot’s Et Dieu … crea la femme [And God Created Woman]. It helps to view it with other than a scorched earth creating/desecrating American eye…  It’s not a Christian film, to say the least. It’s 52 years old and, under a harsh gaze, suffers for it, but one of the reviews I popped up today had this observation:

Coincidentally, the script shares several elements with another film that came out the same year, Douglas Sirk’s Written on the Wind. Both have at their center wild young women characters who, jilted by unrequited love, use tantrums, lasciviousness and wild mambo dancing to disrupt the equilibrium of the social network depicted in each film. (It so happens that both films locate industrial capitalism as a locus of power in which women are largely marginalized).

Bingo on the last line, and in an era of global militarisation, women (and gays and children, it is all linked) will take it in the teeth.  As much as ever.  We just don’t fit in (they say), no matter how hard we try — witness the thoroughly corporatised Carly Fiorina, probably wintering this year in Tulsa, or Timbuktu, shamed and absolutely banished.

And yes I know all about Bardot’s politics, known it for years, watched her be tried – for defamation, inciting race hatred –  and pay fines in the French courts… I could not care less.



1. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

Why does anybody care who Colin Powell endorses?

2. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

Strange headline of the day: Tanzanian albinos stage protest

Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete has met albinos protesting against the killing of members of their community.

Organisers of the demonstration in the commercial capital, Dar es Salaam, urged the government to do more to protect albinos.

About 30 – some of them babies – have been killed over the past year.

Witchdoctors want their body parts for potions which they say make people rich. Dozens of people have been held in connection with the deaths.

This looks like a job for Sarah Palin’s pastor.

3. marisacat - 19 October 2008

ObMan just called him a war hero and statesman.

In reality he is scrabbling around trying to be part of on-going history, as he sees it from Washington. Like the line tossed about these days, “Don’t be on the wrong side of history”. LOL fair warning for dissenters, get in line.

The circle is complete.

4. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

AP IMPACT: Mortgage firm arranged stealth campaign

WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

Everyone has dirty hands.

5. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

3. “Don’t be on the wrong side of history”.

Kind of late for that as far as Powell is concerned.

6. NYCO - 19 October 2008

“The wrong side of history” – cracks me up to no end. Folks… you’re all going to die. D-I-E die. History is going to forget you ALL.

Do something because you think it’s right, not because you think it’s “the right side of history.”

7. marisacat - 19 October 2008

Someone popped me this… what a laugh.

As the emailer put it, New from MB — now with even more stimulating fiber and street cred!!!!

8. marisacat - 19 October 2008



9. marisacat - 19 October 2008

An updated Naming of the Names, counting the foreclosure related suicides and murder-suicides… Nick Turse via Tom Dispatch.

With no end in sight for either the foreclosures or the economic turmoil, Americans may have to brace themselves for many more casualties on the home front. Unless extreme economic steps, like mortgage- and debt-forgiveness, are implemented, the number of extreme acts and the ultimate body count may be far more extreme than anyone yet wants to contemplate.

10. marisacat - 19 October 2008


Before we begin, I’d like to acknowledge some news we learned this morning. With so many brave men and women from Fayetteville serving in our military, this is a city and a state that knows something about great soldiers.

And this morning, a great soldier, a great statesman, and a great American has endorsed our campaign to change America.

I have been honored to have the benefit of his wisdom and counsel from time to time over the last few years, but today, I am beyond honored and deeply humbled to have the support of General Colin Powell.

General Powell has defended this nation bravely, and he has embodied our highest ideals through his long and distinguished public service.

He and his wife Alma have inspired millions of young people to serve their communities and their country through their tireless commitment and trailblazing American story. And he knows, as we do, that this is a moment where we all need to come together as one nation – young and old, rich and poor, black and white, Republican and Democrat.

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

If Frum is really one of our leading public thinkers, if our so-called elites in NYC and DC actually believe that, then we’re in deeper trouble than I thought, and those people are far dumber than I thought.

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

7 – “palling around with COINTELPRO”.

13. marisacat - 19 October 2008


and we imported him. arghhhhhhhh.

14. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

And we still don’t want him back!

15. marisacat - 19 October 2008


16. marisacat - 19 October 2008


Petain endorses Ob.

Let’s get it over iwth!

17. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

Pat Buchanan says Colin Powell endorsed Obama because he’s black

LOL … he endorsed him b/c The One is where the new center of power is. Powell lives to serve power.

18. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

University cancels speech by Ayers

The University of Nebraska-Lincoln rescinded its speaking invitation tonight for 1960s radical-turned-educator William Ayers.

University officials cited “safety reasons” for canceling Ayers’ Nov. 15 appearance.

Spokeswoman Kelly Bartling declined to elaborate on what safety concerns would keep Ayers from addressing a College of Education and Human Sciences event.

Earlier today, Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman strongly condemned the invitation and called on the NU Board of Regents and President J.B. Milliken to block it.

Heineman said through a spokeswoman this evening that he was pleased the university had reconsidered and rescinded the invitation.

An Omaha charitable foundation had announced it was pulling all of its contributions to the university. Several other donors also have indicated to university fundraisers that there could be a financial cost if Ayers speaks.

And Nebraskans by the hundreds continued to register their opposition with university administrators and others, lighting up phone lines and filling e-mail boxes.

Heineman said Ayers’ invitation was “an embarrassment” to the state and that it goes beyond the bounds of the university’s mission.

“Our citizens are clearly outraged and want action,” Heineman said in an interview. “This is their university. This isn’t even a close call. The university should immediately rescind the invitation.”

Dean Marjorie Kostelnik said she spoke Thursday night with UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman about “the climate around this issue.”

She said she also has spoken with representatives of Milliken’s office.

Other public officials weighed in about Ayers on Friday, a day after the UNL speech was announced.

Both Sen. Ben Nelson, a Democrat, and Rep. Lee Terry, a Republican, called for cancellation of the speech.

“The invitation made to William Ayers to speak at my alma mater in the midst of a heated national election when he is such a highly controversial figure is an outrage,” Terry said.

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

Another U.S. Citizen Treated Like an Illegal Immigrant

From the story linked at the blog above:”This must be some kind of game or something that someone’s playing on me,” Leonard Parrish, Houston resident and American citizen.

What happened last month was not a game. Parrish discovered he had an outstanding arrest warrant for a bad check and came to the jail to pay the small “no arrest” bond. But when the 50-year-old father of five from Brooklyn got there, he said he was fingerprinted, strip-searched, and sent to the inmate intake area because a deputy thought he was an illegal immigrant.

“There was something that came up about where was I born, and I told him I was born here. He said that I had a foreign accent. I told him that I have an East Coast accent,” said Parrish.

Parish tried to prove he was American and born in the United States with his state issued ID and his social security number.

“That’s when the captain said, ‘You know how many phony numbers and IDs we get through here?’,” said Parrish

Parrish claims he spent the next 10 hours in a holding area.

A spokesman at the county jail said that procedurally the Sheriff’s office did not do anything wrong. They said Parrish was flagged because a “U” appeared next to his name on the jail’s computer system, signaling his immigration status was unknown.

20. marisacat - 19 October 2008

I missed this yesterday, Wapo on some considered speculation that Cockburn/Counterpunch floated a week ago (Cockburn went much farther, Wapo is rather weak, all statistics, spec and Ob supporting physicians), much doings in that left cheek of McC… apparently NYT will air a three weeks long in preparation report from their medical reporter, Altman, in tomorrow’s print edition. Guess that means it will be up tonight……..

There seem to be some indication that Ob and Biden have released documentation to the Times. LOL Let’s see it. Maybe that undated short letter from ob’s doc did not cut it.

21. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008
22. marisacat - 19 October 2008

All in all, the gaps and paucity of information leave the electorate with insufficient information to fully judge the health of the nominees. The information that has been released is a retreat from the approach that most campaigns took over the last 10 elections.

The upshot on all 4 candidates (most ink on McC). Overly kind to Kerry, who released next to nothing about HIS cancer. As I recall it was limited to chit chat appearing the form of medical advisory, from his doctor, who had pioneered the surgery he underwent, and medical chit chat once removed from wife, daughter of a doctor

I am not sure we should care, as we get scrwed no matter what, imo..

23. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

21 – those are neat.

24. marisacat - 19 October 2008

HA! From the NYT:

He [Reagan] also agreed to an interview himself, against the wishes of his aides, answering all my questions, including what would he do if he became senile as president.

“Resign,” he said.

25. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

they lie like they breathe.

26. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

Photographer Attacked by Jewish Settlers While Taking Pictures of Palestinian Farmers

AP filmed as four Jewish settlers came through the orchard and attacked the photographer and took his camera near Hebron. One settlor then punched a 53-year-old British woman in the face when she tried to get the camera back.

The military has blamed the Palestinians for not coordinating with military officials first: “There was no coordination before they arrived … something that constitutes a provocation.”

Police have launched an investigation into the actions of the Palestinians and their supporters as well as the local residents who attacked them.

27. marisacat - 19 October 2008

Ob will send them love notes, licking the stamps with his own DNA. It will be enough to end all wars.

We should call him “Blessed Ob” and petition the Catholic Church to begin the process to sainthood. We are blessed he walks among us.

All will be well. Ob is with us.

28. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 October 2008

Author Naomi Klein Discusses Bailout, Economy at Stanford

As public anxiety about the teetering economy deepens, author Naomi Klein is gaining listeners with her pronouncements on the failings of American-style capitalism.

“We’ve been living in a fairy tale” that deregulation and privatization serve the common good, the author of “The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism” said Thursday.

Klein’s book paints a dark, troubling picture of a form of capitalism that lets people in power cash in on chaos, catastrophes, wars and financial crises and snatch up lucrative contracts.

Speaking at Stanford University’s Kresge Auditorium on Thursday evening as part of the Aurora Forum, Klein minced no words. She insists that deregulating the financial system has created bubbles and busts, and she called the current $700 billion bailout, or rescue plan, a “stickup.”

This financial crisis and the Iraq war are examples of how economic shocks and global disasters are used to boost the profits of the elite, she said.

“The president goes on TV and dangles a plan to Congress, saying if we don’t get it we’re going down, and banks are going to close in your neighborhood,” she said. “That’s deeply crazy if you look at it. Especially about a plan that almost all economists said couldn’t fix the problem.”

Klein said the Bush administration’s plan was reckless. She bristled at the “comfort level” Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and President Bush have exhibited with the crisis.

“It’s like they’re saying, ‘Hey, stuff happens,'”‰” she said. “And then a week later the whole idea of buying toxic debt they were pushing died.”

Klein’s ideas have been criticized by some as extreme and leftist, but her challenges to the myth of the unfettered marketplace are resonating with a growing number of people.

Klein, a former fellow at the London School of Economics, believes the policies of the last few decades have allowed a shadow banking system to flourish. It was a “disaster waiting to happen,” she said.

She puts the blame on both parties, though she clearly believes the Bush administration has done more to close the curtains, allowing for deep corruption.

“There was no morality,” she said. “It was all based on the get it while you can concept.”

Now Klein suggests that Paulson, Bush and Congress are using the bailout to push through radical policies that favor the corporate elite.

“It’s a cesspool of conflicts of interest, the people pulling together this plan,” she said.

“Where are we now?” asked Terry Karl, a Stanford political science professor who was part of the conversation with Klein onstage. “Are we doomed?”

Klein said she thinks the country is at a crossroads and that this is a “moment of possibilities” that could reverse entrenched corruption. But she fears more of the same policies as the financial crisis deepens.

She believes the financial crisis will be used by Republicans against Democratic Sen. Barack Obama if he is elected president. “No, we can’t” may become the new refrain, she said, from social programs that help the disadvantaged to the pursuit of alternative energy and investment in technology to combat climate change.

“Business will be in a slump, and there will be calls for tax breaks and deregulation,” she said. “It’s going to be a hard fight.”

She also expects more attacks on civil rights and undocumented workers, as well as another attempt to privatize Social Security.

“I call for the nationalization of ExxonMobil,” she said jokingly, to roaring applause. “They made $40 billion in profits from us.”

29. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

27. “Blessed Ob”

Holy crap. And I mean that literally.

30. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

Awesome. Great site too.

31. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

I find refuge in decor when I’ve ODed on politics, for some strange reason. You’d never know it considering my style is Sally Ann Chic.

32. bayprairie - 19 October 2008


join the f.b.i., see the world.

33. liberalcatnip - 19 October 2008

Just checking out the doc Jesus Politics on CBC right now. Should be interesting.

34. marisacat - 19 October 2008

Prayer vigils, fasting and prayer, for the passage of Prop 8, and in support of traditional marriage (whatever that is)…

“God, we are asking for an awakening,” she prayed one recent afternoon, standing before a group of young people who had come together to ask for divine intervention in California’s upcoming election.

Next to her, another woman, whose blunt black hair and fashionable clothing would not have been out of place at a Silver Lake club, added her own prayer: “I am asking for rains of revival to open up over California.”

Sometimes they leave the city [San Francisco], as they have done now for Proposition 8 and as they did this summer when they spent a month praying in front of every abortion clinic they could identify across California.

On Friday nights they often head to the Castro district, the center of the city’s gay community, to play guitars and sing and share their views about the love of Jesus.

Some passersby assume they’re performing satiric street theater. Others argue with them vociferously.

35. NYCO - 20 October 2008

I honestly don’t get the Colin Powell thing either. What has Colin Powell actually DONE to merit this continued worship? The only thing I can think of is that it’s supposed to be along the lines of John the Baptist endorsing Jesus. A lot of people thought Powell was Obama, but then the real Obama came along.

Colin Powell is a dusty name. This era is going to be remembered (dimly) as an era full of dusty names… like the 1870s through the early part of the 20th century, a bunch of very eminent men who did or said nothing particularly memorable and were in fact rather wrong about almost everything.

36. marisacat - 20 October 2008

LOL At a Seattle fundraiser, last night, Biden:

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

Isn’t it enught ot just light candles? With the image of St Ob upon them?

37. marisacat - 20 October 2008


dusty and scabrous with other peoples blood. But Ob is out there today saying Powell will be an advisor and if he wants a formal position, they can discuss it… [Today Show]

38. marisacat - 20 October 2008

In a way you have to admire how very screwed up America is.. with no principles, few to no ethics – and no real beliefs… the last graf from the long long long long Dem consultant drivel from Juan Cole.

Powell has not just endorsed a candidate. He has begun to redeem himself from his failure to resign in fall of 2003 when it became clear he had been used by the Neoconservatives. In this interview, he has exemplified the best in public political reasoning in civil life, with these remarks. He, and Obama give hope that the Rovian degeneracy can yet be overcome.

39. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

If Colin Powell is John the Baptist, Biden must think he’s one of the prophets.

I don’t know, Joe. Isn’t there always an international crisis going on? If not, doesn’t the US government just create one?

40. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

38. He has begun to redeem himself

Yeah? No. Sorry Juan but he hasn’t.

41. marisacat - 20 October 2008

And, right on cue in the Telegraph… Endless war by any means necessary. I can’t decide waht graf to snip…

[I]ntelligence chiefs expect an attempt to emulate the terrorist strikes on Britain when Gordon Brown took power and are concerned that Russia or Iran could use the 77 days of paralysis between the election and the inauguration on January 20 for acts of international brinkmanship, like the invasion of Georgia.

An official involved in the transition discussions told The Sunday Telegraph: “There has been no specific threat but the assessment is that someone will try something.

“It could be a terrorist attack on US assets overseas. It could be the leader of a rogue state chancing his arm. Putin and Ahmadinejad have form.”

The transition of power in the US is a chaotic process. More than 1,100 political appointees in senior posts have to be approved by the Senate, a process that can take months.

On Wednesday the current White House chief of staff, Josh Bolten, chaired a meeting of senior White House staff and representatives of both Mr Obama and his Republican rival John McCain.

President Bush’s creation of this Presidential Transition Coordinating Council, the earliest ever, is designed to avoid a repeat of the situation on September 11 2001, when only one third of his national security appointees had been approved by the Senate, nine months into his presidency.

Martha Kumar, director of the White House Transition Project, an independent group that advises the transition teams of both campaigns, told The Sunday Telegraph: “The times of changing of power are soft times, times of vulnerability. Just look at what has happened around the world, including in Great Britain.

“You had the failed bombings in London and then the attack at Glasgow airport three days after Gordon Brown took office. In Spain the Madrid bombings were three days before the presidential election.”

There have been particularly intensive efforts to make sure Mr Obama has his national security team in place, not just because he is widely expected to win the election on November 4, but because intelligence analysts believe America’s enemies are more likely to try to take advantage of Mr Obama’s international inexperience than they would of Mr McCain. ::snipsnappy::

I’d call it something to fear and fear itself. Or, that is what they are actively selling.

42. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Sell sell selll

A senior official in the Obama camp, whose name has been submitted for FBI vetting, said: “We will be ready and we will be seen to be ready.”

He said that Mr Obama is close to finalising plans for his first 100 days in power – which will include major moves on the economy, healthcare and Iraq in his first week, designed to make his priorities clear to Americans.

He is planning a series of early interventions to stamp his authority on the economic crisis. This will include legislation proposing a $300bn stimulus package which would be published before President Bush has even left the White House, so that it can be passed as soon as he takes power.

Mr Obama is also planning executive orders that do not require legislation on his first day in office, which could include plans to promote renewable energy resources and create jobs.

His transition team, which is reportedly much more extensive and active than Mr McCain’s, features 10 working groups in different policy areas to convert campaign promises into concrete legislation. It is chaired by John Podesta, Bill Clinton’s former White House chief of staff who runs the Centre for American Progress, a think tank long seen as a Democratic administration in exile.

43. ebedgert - 20 October 2008

38. Powell has passed his sell-by date… with me, at any rate. For his entire career he’s been touted as some sort of Great Black Hope, without ever actually doing anything except Being Colin Powell. When the one time came for him to actually show some courage, he proved himself to be painfully average. Where is the greatness, exactly? Where was the actual courage? He had his test, and he failed. “No, wait… NOW he’s going to be great…”

Do people really think that an Obama presidency is a wonderful opportunity for a bunch of political cowards to redeem themselves as if nothing has happened? “Let’s all just FORGET that eight-year Bush unpleasantness, chaps. Back to the programme!”

At least Neville Chamberlain had the decency to just fade away.

44. NYCO - 20 October 2008

Arrgh – that last message about Neville Chamberlain was from me. I signed up for a new WordPress account and forgot I was logged in. Sorry for the confusion.

45. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Colin should fade away. If only the wars would, but they won’t.

46. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008
47. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

The unholy legacy of Pius XII. I read a good book about him a few years ago: Hitler’s Pope.

The things they don’t teach you in catechism class.

48. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Somebody sew his mouth shut. More Biden. Via Tapper at Political Punch (he has “as prepared” McC replies for today, as well)…

The garrulous Biden said that he’s “forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I’m not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it. This guy has it. But he’s gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?’ We’re gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I’m asking you now, I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us.”

Biden also mentioned the current economic crisis. “Gird your loins,” Biden told the crowd. “We’re gonna win with your help, God willing, we’re gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It’s like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy.”

can I just ungird my loins? I’d prefer that…

49. NYCO - 20 October 2008

48. I don’t want Biden anywhere near my loins, thank you very much…

50. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

Gee, that’s an encouraging message. Where has all the hopeychangeyness gone?

I like stuffed pork loin. Is that what I’m supposed to gird?

51. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

Canada’s raw milk case du jour:

An Ontario farmer has asked for the maximum sentence possible after he was found guilty of contempt for ignoring a court order that requires him to stop selling his raw milk.

Selling unpasteurized milk is illegal in Canada and farmer Michael Schmidt circumvents these laws by selling “shares” in his dairy cows to consumers.

He has operated his co-operative organic dairy farm near Owen Sound, Ont., for more than 20 years.

On Monday, the judge pointed out that the case was not about whether consumers can drink raw milk, but whether Schmidt defied a court order that required him to stop selling it.

The judge did not sentence Schmidt on Monday and did not indicate when such a decision would be made.

The Crown is not asking that Schmidt serve jail time, but Schmidt himself asked the judge to impose “the highest penalty you can find.”

52. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Ob’s out there saying you have to fight for change.

Candles don’t do it? DNA slathered around like sun tan lotion? Doesn’t do it? No????

Oh i am sorry to be so cynical. Just not a believer… and I m overly mindful, there WAS a lot of hope for change whne Clinton took over, a young president again after Reagan and GHW… there was tremdous outreach to Clinton from all corners, to assist him in the transition, to advise and to alert to enormous problems, most esp with healthcare but with so many things, Gays in the mil… Carter advised clinton to open the mil byt EO, to do it immediately. That he would survie and be re elected and the country would survive.

We all know what happened there.

And I watched it all deflate. I was not a big believer then either, but I did want to stop The Bushes.

Ha! I really feel the joke is on people like me

53. marisacat - 20 October 2008

hmm gird your loins… I feel like I want a thick blanket over my loins, like they do when ex raying.

Save me fromthe fucking creeps.

54. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

One of the righties calls Biden the “vice-messiah”. 🙂

55. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Have a slice of mush pie. Ken Adelman, of the “cakewalk” phrase as applied to the invasion, endorses ObRama. And Packer in The New Yorker is his interlocutor.

56. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008
57. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

Obama gets cold reception in NC diner

As Obama walked in, a woman at the other end of the restaurant, a woman began shouting at him.

“Socialist, socialist, socialist!” said Diane Fanning, 54, a Sam’s Club employee. “Get out of here.”

There was a lot of noise and excitement and positive reception as well and it was unclear whether Obama heard her, writes pool reporter Margaret Talev, of McClatchy Newspapers.

But there was no disputing the animosity later, when Obama tried to shake Fanning’s hand. She refused the gesture.

From the pool report:

The gentleman next to Fanning, Lenox Bramble, 76, flashed an angry look at her. “Be civil, be courteous,” he admonished her. Another woman, Cecilia Hayslip, 61, yelled back at Fanning (per Reuters), “At least he’s not a war-monger!”

Mr. Bramble told Reuters’ pooler that he wasn’t voting for Obama because he didn’t think he had enough experience. Bramble’s wife, Kit, 75, said after meeting Obama, “He was very nice” but added she’d been a conservative Republican since Barry Goldwater’s era and said she wouldn’t vote for Obama.

Fanning said she’d heard Colin Powell had endorsed Obama but that “Colin Powell is a RINO, R-I-N-O, Republican In Name Only.” “This is my one day off,” she muttered.

Later, Obama came to the long table where Fanning and other members of a local First Presbyterian church were gathered. He held out his hand to her to shake it and asked, “How are you, ma’am?” but she declined to shake.

He spoke at length with many of the others parishioners at the long banquet table, however, and got a much friendlier reception as he spoke about health care, taxes and social security. Fanning told your pooler, “Some of ’em are just nicer than I am. I know how some of ’em think.”

I really wish people knew what “socialist” meant.

58. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

38 – so how will he atone for My Lai?

59. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

A friend sent me this:

Bear found dumped at WCU with Obama signs

Maintenance workers reported about 7:45 a.m. finding a 75-pound bear cub dumped at the roundabout near the Catamount statute at the entrance to campus, said Tom Johnson, chief of university police.

“It looked like it had been shot in the head as best we can tell. A couple of Obama campaign signs had been stapled together and stuck over its head,” Johnson said.

University police called in N.C. Wildlife Resources officials to remove the body and help in the investigation. Bear season is currently under way in Western North Carolina.

“This is certainly unacceptable,” Johnson said. “Someone was wanting to draw attention to the election. If we find out who they are, we’ll make sure they’ll get some attention themselves.”

60. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

THIS is what I think I need to do when I see the donks coming at me with one of their “ideas”.

61. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

Well I’m glad the loony right has moved away from mocking liberals to slamming socialists. About bloody time! 🙂

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63. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008
64. marisacat - 20 October 2008

What a scream!! It will be all those mean nasty white people in Congress (read Nancy and whoever the Lib Blogs decide to hate to protect ObMan)… the Democratic Leadership. Ob Rama wanted to the right thing, he really did. He weeps for you!

The Obama campaign wants to jump out of the gate, but Congress is very aware of rising resentment about big government and spending, and the Democratic leadership is going to throw itself in front of the Obama administration in ways the Obama transition planners don’t quite expect. They’ll be less ambitious and more cautious — even as they release all that pent-up governing energy.

Such fucking bullshit. And what anearly set-up (it’s framed as a “proposition” not a prediction).

Sorry a baby bear died for politics. All it is, either side.

65. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

62. Awesome pics. So, what are they trying to say? That even the sun is running a deficit?

66. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

LOL … I’m not sure what’s funnier, the beliefs or the lousy spelling:

Seven reasons not to vote for Barack Obama

67. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

I don’t get the baby bear thing. It’s fricken weird.

68. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

Who needs the sun anyway when you have Obama?

69. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

Banjo playing during brain surgery

Now you can truly call Eddie Adcock the Bionic Banjo Player –and don’t forget Gearhead Guitarist– as he recovers from some remarkable brain surgeries to control a right-hand tremor.

The three-part surgery, termed Deep Brain Stimulation, involved implantation of electrodes into the brain as well as insertion of a palm-sized battery-powered generator within the chest wall, plus lead wires to connect the two. The technologically-advanced procedure was performed in multiple stages over the month of August in Nashville, Tennessee, at Vanderbilt Medical Center, a teaching and research hospital which is a world leader in neurological studies and surgeries.

Those neurosurgeons were eager to operate on Eddie, with his life-long high level of musical accomplishment and the unique requirements related to his fine motor skills. During the brain-implantation stage of the surgery, he was kept conscious in order to be able to play his Deering GoodTime banjo and assist the team of surgeons in directing the fine-tuning of their placement of electrodes in the brain — an operating-room ‘first’.

According to Eddie, “I came up in music the hard way and learned to be a trouper fast. Some of those early days were pretty rough, and I’ve been stomped, cut and kicked; but I never went through hell like this — it was the most painful thing I’ve ever endured. And it was risky. But I did it for a reason: I’m looking forward to being able to play music the way I did years ago prior to getting this tremor. It means that much to me. I’m far from being done!”

70. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

68 – well, we all revolve around him.

71. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

70. My eyes! They burn!

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74. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Cindy has this up abut “stuff” being thrown in her way. One is being summoned for jury duty the week of election.


75. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:


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77. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008
78. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008


A friend of mine associated with the Nation, a dissenter from that mag’s Obama worship, told me that no one left of Joe Lieberman wants to hear any shit about the Dems. Not this year, and probably not for the next four as well. Don’t believe the hype about holding Obama’s feet to the fire once he’s elected. After eight years of Bush/Cheney, the traditional presidential honeymoon will linger well past the usual expiration date. For liberals anyway. For reactionaries, the hysterical anti-Obama rhetoric is well underway, and will get more bizarro in due course. And as I’ve said before, this right wing assault will hand liberals the excuse they need to defend the White House, on patriotic grounds, naturally. Liberals love playing patriot games. One of many features they share with their reactionary cousins.

Of course, right wing and elite support for Obama is growing, which should tell you something about who Senator Change really is and what he actually represents. But for countless pie-eyed loyalists, it won’t make a dent. Indeed, those outside of these dancing tribes must weather torrents of shit rain over the next two weeks — either that, or just ignore the whole fucking mess. I’m seriously leaning toward the latter.

Me too.

79. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien: Obama’s New Advisor Stands By His War Crimes

Just to be clear, Barack Obama’s brand-new foreign policy advisor, Colin Powell, wants you to know that he continues to support the decision to launch a war of aggression against Iraq in March 2003 — an act that, according to principles established by the United States and its allies at Nuremberg in 1945, is a war crime punishable by death.

In fact, the only thing that Powell — the wise and steady statesman, the “grown-up,” the “moderate” — can find to criticize in the conduct of the war he helped launch is the fact that it wasn’t savage enough to begin with. We should have “surged” those sand monkeys from the git-go, he told CNN, as he aligned himself with the genocidal philosophy of noted moderate, grown-up legal philosopher Glenn “Gomer Says Hey” Reynolds, noted for his Augustinian endorsement of the “more rubble, less trouble” school of warcraft. From CNN, here are Powell’s words from an exchange with reporters following his endorsement of Obama on Sunday:

I’m well aware of the role I played [in the Iraq war]. My role has been very, very straightforward. I wanted to avoid a war. The president agreed with me. We tried to do that. We couldn’t get it through the U.N. and when the president made the decision, I supported that decision. And I’ve never blinked from that. I’ve never said I didn’t support a decision to go to war.

Here is one outright lie right out of the gate — a brazen, blazing, breathtaking lie: “We tried to do that [avoid the war]. We couldn’t get it through the U.N.” This is murderous bullshit of the highest order. Before the invasion, Bush and Powell claimed they were being forced to consider war because of Iraq’s alleged non-compliance with past UN demands to destroy its WMD arsenal and programs. In late 2002, the UN duly authorized — and Iraq accepted — a vigorous program of inspections to verify compliance — or discover non-compliance. This process was going on, successfully, with cooperation from the Iraqis, when George W. Bush ordered the UN inspectors out of the country, before they finished their work, so that he could launch a military invasion — which was now unnecessary by the very criteria that he and Powell had set out publicly.

But the kibosh on the UN process was necessary precisely to preclude the possibility that the inspectors would discover the truth: there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, there were no active programs to develop WMD in Iraq, and all such programs had been dismantled years before. (Both the Clinton and Bush Administrations had mountains of evidence to support this conclusion, and almost nothing to refute it. Yet both encouraged this blood libel to increase in hysterical virulence year after year.) For if the UN had been allowed to complete its work in 2003, then the Bush administration’s main public casus belli, the threat of WMD, would have evaporated.

So let’s be clear about the facts. Bush and Powell did indeed get from the UN a perfect mechanism for avoiding war with Iraq — if that had been their goal. Instead, Bush destroyed this process in order to launch the invasion — and Powell supported that position. He still supports it today. He’s “never blinked from it.”

80. marisacat - 20 October 2008

Well St Ob called him a war hero and statesman. I do believe he was “humbled” by the kiss from teh Great Man.

I mean, what is left to say?

81. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

The Rising Body Count on Main Street

On October 4, 2008, in the Porter Ranch section of Los Angeles, Karthik Rajaram, beset by financial troubles, shot his wife, mother-in-law, and three sons before turning the gun on himself. In one of his two suicide notes, Rajaram wrote that he was “broke,” having incurred massive financial losses in the economic meltdown. “I understand he was unemployed, his dealings in the stock market had taken a disastrous turn for the worse,” said Los Angeles Deputy Police Chief Michel R. Moore.

The fallout from the current subprime mortgage debacle and the economic one that followed has thrown lives into turmoil across the country. In recent days, the Associated Press, ABC News, and others have begun to address the burgeoning body count, especially suicides attributed to the financial crisis. (Note that, months ago, Barbara Ehrenreich raised the issue in the Nation.)

Suicide is, however, just one type of extreme act for which the financial meltdown has seemingly been the catalyst. Since the beginning of the year, stories of resistance to eviction, armed self-defense, canicide, arson, self-inflicted injury, murder, as well as suicide, especially in response to the foreclosure crisis, have bubbled up into the local news, although most reports have gone unnoticed nationally — as has any pattern to these events.

While it’s impossible to know what factors, including deeply personal ones, contribute to such extreme acts, violent or otherwise, many do seem undeniably linked to the present crisis. This is hardly surprising. Rates of stress, depression, and suicide invariably climb in times of economic turmoil. As Kathleen Hall, founder and CEO of the Stress Institute in Atlanta, told USA Today’s Stephanie Armour earlier this year, “Suicides are very much tied to the economy.”

With predictions of a long and deep recession now commonplace, it’s not too soon to begin looking for these patterns among the human tragedies already sprouting amid the financial ruins. Troubling trends are to be expected in the years ahead, especially as hundreds of thousands of veterans of the Iraq and Afghan Wars, their families often already under enormous stress, are coming home to scenarios of joblessness and, in some cases, homelessness. Consider this, then, an attempt to look for early anecdotal signs of the fallout from hard times, the results, in this case, of a review of local press reports from across the nation, some tiny but potentially indicative of larger American tragedies, and all suggesting a pattern that is likely to grow more pronounced.

82. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

Egads! I’m out of popcorn.

83. liberalcatnip - 20 October 2008

Sorry. My last comment wasn’t meant as a response to 81.

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85. bayprairie - 20 October 2008

“Eddie Adcock the Bionic Banjo Player” began performing around ’53 and in ’57 even played with bill monroe for a while. later that year he joined the influential bluegrass band the country gentlemen, whom he played with until 1970. he the moved to california where he eventually married martha hearon. the two have played together ever since.

“Classic” Country Gentlemen Reunion at Woodstock 1992 – Dark as a Dungeon

Eddie & Martha Adcock, ‘Gold watch and chain’

86. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 October 2008

Eddie is so good. I hope his operations lead to him feeling better.

87. marisacat - 20 October 2008

gnu post


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