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One day ’til The One… 3 November 2008

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, San Francisco.


Obama promotion – Singapore – Reuters

One of the better photographic image card board cuts outs I have seen…

Other than that, from the transcript for MTP (HA!):

An [Susan] Eisenhower, a [Ron jr] Reagan, a Chris Buckley, a [Julie] Nixon are all supporting Barack Obama.  And he’s going to govern in a way that brings the country together, and no matter what our majority, he’s going to seek to reach a broader consensus because that’s the only way we can govern America at this time.

oh for the day that a Democrat does not need nor want nor yearn for a baptism of spit from Republicans and wingers.  Won’t be happening..

Also from MTP (I have just endured the re-run of botoxed Kerry and botoxed Brokaw and I will get some use out of it, LOL):

MR. CHUCK TODD:  Good morning, Tom.  Well, there’s four states that both campaigns look at their tracking polls first.  It starts with Virginia, where we have Obama with a narrow lead, 47 to McCain’s 44.  In Mason-Dixon polling, this is the first time Obama’s been ahead in Virginia.  In Florida, we have Obama, 47; McCain, 45.  This has been a consistent lead in the Mason-Dixon poll for Obama.  Small, but still a lead.  In Colorado, the largest lead that Obama has of any of the states we have today:  Obama, 49; McCain, 44.  And in, and in Ohio, a bright spot for McCain:  McCain at 47, Obama at 45.  This is one of those states, of course, a Republican has never won without Ohio.

And then our other troika of states here.  Nevada:  Obama at 47; McCain, 43. This race has tightened in that state.  Both candidates in Nevada this final weekend.  In Missouri, McCain, basically a dead heat, 47; Obama, 46.  And finally, in North Carolina, where we’ve seen lots of talk about early voting, we have McCain at 49, Obama at 46.  All of these polls, of course, Tom, could change depending on what is the percentage of turnout among young voters, among African-Americans, among older voters, etc.

I am sure late polling is rolling in today, but hey, in a foregone conclusion, Sunday is “good enough”.

As for Pennsylvania and Ohio — and the nearly last minute issues of an Obama administration regulating coal fired plants, new ones at least, out of the game (reminiscent again of Biden drool of a few weeks ago… I suggest sewing his mouth shut!).. I have zero idea what impression it might make.  I did have a good laugh that Obama let all of that fly at a sit down with the SF Chron, last JANUARY… they are not the swiftest bunch, by a long shot, and excavating coal is not exactly our bailiwick.  Tho we are suitably rapacious, if we ever had the chance… 😉  Link to Instapundit as he has a good round up of links if anyone is interested and, with his format, no riffling thru conservative rhetoric, or at least not much of it..

The worst news by far is that the newly, or soon to be, annointed administration will not be taking a break this year.. no quiet time following election, no week in Hawai’i with ‘out from under the bus’ and amazingly alive Grannie… oh.. if only they would scatter to the four corners of the globe.  But we are stuck with them all.


Oops meant to add this as a last bit… for anyone else who remembers Harvey Milk, Michael Petrelis, a local gay activist, has a very sweetly bittersweet memory of Harvey at his site… in the tired sturm and drang of Prop 8 he thinks back to the days of the Briggs initiative and the state wide debates that Briggs and Harvey engaged in…

With the making of the “Milk” movie this past year, and its world premier at the Castro theater earlier this week, the life and times of Harvey Milk, and his political successes, have been much discussed, especially as we geared up to fight still another proposition attempting to deny us equal rights, Prop 8.

I’ve chatted with some gay elders who were active at the time of the Briggs Initiative, that would have stripped gay teachers of employment protections across the state.

How could they have defeated that initiative, with little money, no cell phones, faxes, the web, computers, and all the electronic tools we now have, was what I wanted to learn.

Over all, their responses echoed two things: Gay visibility and Harvey traveling up and down the state to debate the initiative’s author, John Briggs. I bet Harvey saw the debates as a chance to garner free media, and educate voters to the truth about gays.

Harvey’s Wiki entry illustrates how he fought his electoral battle:

Briggs’ messages supporting Proposition 6 were pervasive throughout California, and Harvey Milk attended every event Briggs hosted. Milk campaigned against the bill throughout the state as well, and swore that even if Briggs won California, he would not win San Francisco.

In their numerous debates, which toward the end had been honed to quick back-and-forth banter, Briggs maintained that homosexual teachers wanted to abuse and recruit children.

Milk responded with statistics compiled by law enforcement that provided evidence that pedophiles identified primarily as heterosexual, and dismissed Briggs’ points with one-liner jokes: “If it were true that children mimicked their teachers, you’d sure have a helluva lot more nuns running around.”
Those debates and their importance receive their rightful attention in Randy Shilts’ book “The Mayor of Castro Street.” Click here to read the pertinent section.

Fast-forward to this week, and the Yes on 8 people issuing a debate challenge to the chief executive of No on 8, Steve Smith.  [snip]

He adds that Smith declined the debates…

Shortly after completing those debates and defeating the truly horrible Briggs Initiative, Supervisor Milk, along with Mayor Moscone, was killed at City Hall… 10 days after Jonestown, in 1978.



1. NYCO - 3 November 2008

Four more years… of triumphalism, but with a new face.

2. AlanSmithee - 3 November 2008

Cripes, I dunno, maybe republican whining will at least be a change from democrat whining. Ah, who am I kidding? Even that sounds the same.

3. marisacat - 3 November 2008


LOL Just read that the Dems constructed a firewall of Democratic Sec of State in 5 states… and R will be howling for non partisans in those elected spots. Just as Democrats did in 00 and 04.

Read it at a Dem [or, focused on Dems and Dem issues] blog, Ben Smith at Politico… 😉

There will be whining. No matter what…

4. NYCO - 3 November 2008

To celebrate the end of Bush’s reign, I decided to make a batch of Election Day cookies. I had an elephant cookie cutter but no donkey. Digging deeper in my cookie cutter set, I discovered a stegosaurus and a rhinoceros. So DINO and RINO cookies it is.

Unfortunately, because I doped off in the kitchen, the cookies got burned. Oddly fitting.

5. marisacat - 3 November 2008

oh NYCO that made me laugh! What a hoot!!

6. marisacat - 3 November 2008

hmm not sure what if anything this could mean, but the 527 that is running the Wright ad, has bought time out here. Just saw it on NBC. Odd…

7. marisacat - 3 November 2008

Obama is running a long ad, at least a minute maybe a minute and half. Just saw that on NBC too….. The laundry list. But health care took a bid stab in the non existant heart. It is “promise to lower the cost of health care”.

Just so shocked. I am shocked. LOL I guess a little mouse ate the word UNIVERSAL.

8. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

From mcat in the last thread: prayer circles will be formed to pray for your spiritual detox.

That’s kind of like offering holy water to a a vampire. 🙂

I might give the green tea a try though and for my culinary escape from this madness, I made ambrosia last nite. Just a spoonful and you drift away into the Election-Free Zone.

4. Unfortunately, because I doped off in the kitchen, the cookies got burned. Oddly fitting.


9. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

I like recipe sites where the pets are included.

10. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

Obamalama looked absolutely horrible in the speech they just showed live on CNN and McSurge just called Robert Byrd “Richard”.

The worst news by far is that the newly, or soon to be, annointed administration will not be taking a break this year.. no quiet time following election,

My head, it explodes.

11. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

One would think (at least I would anyway) that on the last day of campaigning, these automatons would actually try to deliver a bang up speech to grab the headlines. Instead, both of them are just singing the same ole bullshit songs.

And one of the ironic bits from both of them is that they’re bashing each other over the bailout money when they both voted for it. Please lie to me some more…I just haven’t had enough.

12. marisacat - 3 November 2008

Poor Sully.. a nut all day long. It’s over there at his site, at the tag end of some rhyming drivel. he did not write the rhyming drivel but he wrote this drivel:

“Yes: the heart has got to open in a fundamental way. And you can feel it happening.

“Because this is America. And the world has never needed her more.”

13. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

12. Is he on crack?

14. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2008

12 – “Because this is America. And the world has never needed her more.”

Waaaaaah! Now we ALL need new shoes!

15. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2008

Bloomberg must listen to pesky citizens.

It is one of the most unusual aspects of New York City government: Before signing any law adopted by the City Council, the mayor must first sit and listen to any witnesses who want to come forward and speak about it.

Usually, the public comment period is pro forma — but not Monday. At a hearing that began at 9:30 a.m., scores of witnesses crowded the ornate Blue Room at City Hall to testify about a bill passed on Oct. 23 that would extend term limits for the city’s elected officials, clearing the way for Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg to run for a third term next year.

16. marisacat - 3 November 2008

Mia bellies up for rescue invasion…

[“R]esponsibility to protect” means the international community must “react” when states are unable or unwilling to protect those living within their borders. The international action can be political, diplomatic, economic or military. The latter should be at the ready in “extreme and exceptional cases,” which it defines as “cases of violence which … shock the conscience of mankind.”

The responsibility to protect has redefined the concept of sovereignty by clearly stating that it involves not only the rights of nation states, but the responsibilities of civilian protection they bear. The responsibility to protect marks the end of centuries of inviolate borders and impunity within them. In principle. […]

What I note is that what she says about Darfur applies to IRAQ.

How can such brazen cruelty be inflicted upon our fellow human beings? How is it that a military assault on displaced civilians in a refugee camp creates barely a ripple in the news cycle? How does such outrageous human destruction prompt so little outrage? How is it that those who have been tasked with protecting the world’s most vulnerable population have failed – and failed, and then failed yet again – in their central responsibility? What does this say about the United Nations and the powerful member states? How have we come to such a moment?

I don’t know dear…. how did it happen?

17. marisacat - 3 November 2008


bet he looked irritable at having to do that…………………

18. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2008

17 – NYT reports:

Mr. Bloomberg generally looked directly at all the speakers. His expression didn’t change much: stone-faced, implacable. Occasionally he sneaked a peak at the clock, set to two minutes allocated to each speaker, when someone criticized him.

By contrast, the council members had different body language. Councilman Robert Jackson of Manhattan seemed the most distracted, talking on the phone and typing away on his BlackBerry. Councilman Domenic M. Recchia Jr. of Brooklyn was also spotted frequently thumbing through his BlackBerry.

Councilman Thomas White Jr. of Queens sat almost motionless, arms folded, with a slightly bemused look, the entire time.

Mr. Bloomberg suppressed a chuckle when Jimmy McMillan, representing a political group called the Rent Is Too Damn High Party, turned his back to Mr. Bloomberg as he addressed the mayor, saying the mayor had turned his back on the people.

“I have no desire to look at you,” Mr. McMillan said.

Then, when he turned back around to face the mayor, he elicited a smile and chuckle when he called Mr. Bloomberg “a nice guy, a rich guy, a good-looking man.”

Mr. McMillan mixed that praise with some unsparing criticism. “We ask that you step aside and let term limits do their job,” he thundered at the mayor. “Your time is up and you must go!” To re-elect the mayor, Mr. McMillan said, would be akin to “taking a bath and putting on the same old dirty drawers and sneakers.”

The mayor looked on with an expression of mild amusement, a slight smile on his face.

19. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008


How is it that a military assault on displaced civilians in a refugee camp creates barely a ripple in the news cycle?

I flipped on CNN yesterday and anchor Don Lemon said that it was time to check out the campaign news because there was no other news to report. I kid you not. I then switched to BBC news which, of course, had a report on the Congolese refugees.

Dog forbid the American channels will actually have to go back to reporting real news but they will, no doubt, spend absolutely endless amounts of time on post-election analysis so they can avoid it.

20. marisacat - 3 November 2008

Jay levy of Survey USA was just on with Dobbs… they are saying Sununu goes down… but that McConnell Chambliss and Coleman hold on. Said Stevens is up in the air . (I would suggest heavier ball and chain! Or take that damned “Hulk!” tie away from him!)


OTOH loving Ob based on Burke (and Burkian theory), Nixon and Reagan.

In his now famous 2002 speech, while he was still a state senator in Illinois, he said: “I know that a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, […]

Burke would have agreed entirely, and admired the cogency of so few words. And one thing I know is that both Nixon and Reagan would have agreed. Both were prudential and successful conservatives. But all the organs of the conservative movement followed Bush over the cliff—as did John McCain.

21. lucid - 3 November 2008

Last poll I saw on Stevens had him plummetting like 13 points in the last week. I think he’s toast, post conviction. The other three are definite tossups.

22. marisacat - 3 November 2008

“White grannie” in Honolulu died today………………. breitbart carried as a one liner from Obama himself.

23. marisacat - 3 November 2008

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Barack Obama’s Grandmother Passes Away [4:35 p.m. ET]

For more, go to abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

24. marisacat - 3 November 2008

LOL They just walk in circles muttering to themselves and ti works! (via Ben Smith full text)

Biden, gaffe-free?

So says Joe Biden, my colleague Victoria McGrane reports from an avail with reporters on his Ohio-bound plane Monday.

“I think we’ve run a really good campaign. And for all the stuff about gaffes, I don’t think there’ve been any real gaffes. I mean I don’t see anything in your polling data demonstrating any of that stuff you guys love to write about. I mean I don’t see it,” Biden said, perhaps referring to polling data that show him with a 60 percent approval rating.

When a reporter pressed him, he continued: “You guys love saying that about me, but I’ll tell you what: Just look at the numbers. I don’t have any problem with what I’ve said; there’s nothing I’ve said that I’d back off of.”

He expressed confidence about Tuesday’s results, saying he thinks Obama will win Pennsylvania, even though John McCain has a strong appeal as a war hero there.

“I can’t believe that the argument is selling you know about keep up the same tax policy,” Biden said. “I just don’t believe that.”

25. NYCO - 3 November 2008

Cookies make everything better.

26. Intermittent Bystander - 3 November 2008

25 – Superb!

27. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

25. I’ll take half a dozen “Get it over with”, please.

28. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008

9 – you cook your pets?

29. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008
30. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008

Still in Denial, Obama’s Attorney Describes Serious Concerns About Voting Machines and More as ‘Hyperbole’

Kaplan goes on to write that “Obama’s attorneys have operated under the premise that more votes are lost to incompetence than fraud or suppression, although they are keeping tabs on proactive suppression efforts.”

My snarky reply to that: That may be true, if we’re referring to incompetence of Democrats.

My not snarky reply: The attorneys’ evidence for such a presumptuous (and I’d argue, inaccurate) impression is not offered in the article, which instead then goes on to detail the number of attorneys the campaign is still in the process of trying to sign up for work on Election Day.

That the Obama/DNC team continues to labor under presumptions that simply cannot be justified with actual evidence is troubling enough. That the echoes of the ’04 Kerry/DNC efforts continue in ’08 is enough to send a chill down the spine of anybody of any party that cares about American elections in which the citizenry can have confidence after results have been reported, and candidates sworn into office.

Bauer does deserve credit in the few places where he, or surrogate public advocacy groups, have finally stepped up to fight back. In almost every case, those efforts have been successful so far this year — even if they’ve haven’t been nearly aggressive or wide-spread enough, given the all-out Republican assault on democracy that is occuring across the country in nearly every quarter.

31. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

28. you cook your pets?

You don’t?

32. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008

I don’t have pets … the oven would be too tempting.

CA GOP, classy all the way:

Obama for America violated federal law by converting its campaign funds to Senator Obama’s personal use. Senator Obama recently traveled to Hawaii to visit his sick grandmother. This was the right thing for any grandson to do-at his own expense-but it was not travel that his campaign may fund. In Senator Obama’s own words, his travels took him “off the [campaign] trail for a day.” The trip featured no campaign events of any kind its 22-hour duration and his decision to travel was “not driven by political concerns,” according to an Obama spokesperson. Since the trip’s purpose was entirely and admittedly personal, the fact that he made campaign telephone calls and talked with staff aides while travelling does not convert this purely personal trip into a proper campaign expense. Therefore, the Obama Campaign violated the FEC’s ban on “personal use” of campaign funds when it paid over $100,000 for the Campaign’s charter to fly to Hawaii without obtaining reimbursement from Senator Obama.

Even if they’re technically right, who the hell thought that making an issue of it was a good idea?

33. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008

This ad is fucking brilliant: No on Prop 8: Home Invasion

34. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008


I’ve been getting that a lot lately — “Can’t you find anything positive in an Obama victory?” — and it’s all from white liberals, who increasingly feel history’s weight pushing them toward the inevitable act. It’s not enough that they avoid any serious discussion of the facts, content in their glazed stupors. They must insist that others, in the immediate case, me, share their pious enthusiasm. I guess I’m simply fucked in the skull, ’cause I can’t do it.

I know all of the arguments and apologia. I see the cultural angle. I recognize the historical element. Still, none of this has swayed me to vote for or otherwise support Obama. For one thing, he’s gonna win Michigan easily, so my vote is superfluous. But more to the point, I’ve actually read his proposals, listened to his statements, and separated all that from the soaring rhetoric that sends white libs to the ground, trembling with the holy spirit. Obama promises to be a competent manager of empire, expanding the Terror Wars abroad while fortifying the police state at home. He wants to give tax breaks to those making under $250K? Super. That seems a fair trade-off with shredding more constitutional protections while killing and starving more poor people overseas. Recall his supposed “surrender” on FISA? That was when his presidency was anything but certain, and he sided with the privatized state. What do you think he’ll “surrender” next, once he’s ensconced in the Oval Office?

I’ll give Obama this much — his campaign has been one of the most brilliantly conceived and cynically executed appeals I’ve ever seen. His propaganda team has ably exploited people’s desire for HOPE and CHANGE, offering them empty platitudes which they can fill with any fantasy they choose. Even when Obama baldly states whose interests he actually serves, his followers either don’t care or pretend not to hear. Besides, they bleat when pushed, Obama will be pressured to do the right thing should he stray too far from liberal concerns. The fact that he already has done this shows that claim to be as empty as Obama’s speeches. The idea that libs are going to shift from genuflection to lighting fires under Obama’s feet is preposterous, but fully in line with the general fantasia.

35. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008

Perrin cont:

Some “independent-minded” friends of mine have predictably crawled back under the Dem tent in time to vote Obama. I saw this in 2000 with Gore, but it’s happening at a much faster pace this time around. Again, why should the Dems change when they know such crawling will always happen? That they are all white progressives is no surprise, especially this year, when voting for Obama is an emblem of anti-racism. If for nothing else, I’ve been told, I should back Obama to show how much I care about black people. Which black people? I respond. I didn’t know that African-Americans shared the same brain. One normally astute friend, who recently accepted Obama as his personal savior, actually told me privately that he cannot hope to sort out an impossibly corrupt system and then explain it to powerless people in a way that they can understand, so he’s forced to go along with the Obama vibe as it’s officially understood. This friend gave me permission to use his name, in order to “make an example” of him for my “strident” readership, but I wouldn’t think of openly linking him to such asinine, condescending statements like the above. He’s done too much good work, and I trust he’ll return to his senses in due course.

36. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 November 2008
37. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

Dixville Notch goes for Obamalama. 15-6. The First time they’ve gone Dem since the 1950s.

38. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

UN aid workers stunned to find camps empty

The first UN aid convoy to reach the heart of rebel-held territory in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo arrived yesterday to find refugee camps that had housed tens of thousands of people last week now standing empty.

Stunned aid workers described the camps around Rutshuru that had been sheltering as many as 50,000 people displaced by the relentless fighting, as levelled with all signs of building materials and people gone.

“All the camps are empty. They have all left,” said Francis Nakwafio Kasai, a field officer with the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). “All the shelters have been destroyed … nothing remains.”
Medical supplies and chlorine tablets to purify water were the first priorities with a food convoy expected to travel the 55 miles from Goma to Rutshuru today. Sean Rafter, a logistics officer with the British medical charity Merlin, who was part of the humanitarian mission which reached the emptied camps, said: “The population has moved away and we don’t know where they are … People are no longer able to get medical care, food or water … we’re very concerned for their welfare.”

Something’s incredibly wrong there…

39. lucid - 3 November 2008

Something’s incredibly wrong there…

No shit. Somehow I don’t think they ‘moved’.

40. liberalcatnip - 3 November 2008

I found more at the BBC:

Aid workers found refugee camps that had held tens of thousands were virtually empty. Many people are believed to have fled into the forests around the camps fearing further violence.

While as many as 50,000 displaced people reached Goma, many others have tried to return to their homes on foot without safe shelter, food or water.

The recent rebel offensive was exacerbated by a wave of killing, looting and raping by retreating Congolese soldiers.

41. marisacat - 4 November 2008

Watching today’s Revivial Meetings in Jacksonville and Manassas.

whew!. and Hallelujah! The bullrushes have been parted and Moses is found!

He thanked God for having “given us a Moses and a Martin called Barack Obama” and asked the Almighty to “grant that we together this nation under God may have the will to bring about the change we need” and ensure that “those who cast their sacred vote will not be deprived this right”.

In a couple of days it will be heresy to deny him.

42. Madman in the Marketplace - 4 November 2008

Looks like the weather in most places will help ensure big turnouts. It’s gonna be in the ’70s here.

Have a good day everybody.

43. NYCO - 4 November 2008

I wonder about the increasing emphasis on “historicity.” The craving and belief that WE are history-makers or that these are “historic times” even if the change isn’t really all that dramatic (skin color seems to be the only marker this time… Obama seems pretty garden-variety early-21st-century M.O.R. Dem product). Reminds me of ancient Romans chronicling the Year of Four Emperors, which seemed very historic to them at the time, but sort of produces a big ehhhh in the modern day. History has her own priorities.

But you’re right, it is impiety for someone of progressive leanings to say too much negative today. Also keep in mind, that when some people fell out with the Roman gods, they fell in with the Christian one; then when some fell out with the Christian one (here in America), they fell in with the Obama-god; so, in an era of Obamism, there will always be dissidents but they too seem destined to fall in with a god one day. Just sayin’. Maybe this moment corresponds more with the deification of Emperor Augustus, though.

44. NYCO - 4 November 2008

then when some fell out with the Christian one (here in America), they fell in with the Obama-god

hm, that didn’t come out right. I didn’t mean to seem to be repeating the canard that “Obama is the anti-Christ” – just talking about the holds that various -isms have one Americans these days.

45. liberalcatnip - 4 November 2008

The danger to come out of that worship is that he’ll be forgiven early and often if he stumbles his way through his presidency. You’ve already had 8 years of that on the right.

Hallelujah that this day has come – ONLY because these years of campaigning are finally over.

46. bayprairie - 4 November 2008


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47. marisacat - 4 November 2008

And the deification process continues daily… Last night on Charlie… some idiot, forget which one, said that if he wins then the speech that launched it all, his 2004 keynote, becomes as Lincoln at Cooper Union. (I thought it was moderately well delievered boiler plate, updated Shrum stuff)


Well I had had it, pissed beyond belief, that Bush was too precious to the nation after 9/11 to be questioned over anything, the photo shots with halo effects and so on. Here we are, same utter and complete shit, precious and must be forgiven and excused and already the halo shots.

The “sent by God” that is increasingly said is frankly disgusting.

For a long time I left the August 2001 issue of NY Review of Books on the kitchen table… there was a long, highly critical article in there from Eliz Drew about his tax (cuts for the wealthy) plans. Obviously as soon as 9/11 happened and he acted like a dying animal that day, but we were stuck and everything would be 9/11, 9/11. Just like how Reagan was floundering (badly) til he was shot.

What a con. Now we have another one.

48. marisacat - 4 November 2008

Mamma mia. Jesus in the Oval and Maggots and Drool at the elbow.

Telling voters in this swing state that “change is on the way,” the Democratic vice presidential candidate offered one of his now-expected random introductory tangents.

The latest was about his sister, Val, his wife Jill, and Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, who introduced the Bidens at the rally of 1,100 people in the gym at Longview Community College.

Biden called his sister a “girl-boy,” meaning a tomboy, and then explained that girl-boys are softer than “girl-girls.”

“You know why I think Jill likes Claire McCaskill so well, Senator McCaskill? Jill is one of five sisters, Claire is one of three sisters. And I tell you what, you women raised with sisters are different than women raised with brothers,” Biden said as both women joined him on stage.

“My sister is smart, runs every one of my campaigns; is beautiful; graduated with honors from college; is homecoming queen. But she’s a … she is what I call a ‘girl-boy’ growing up, you know what I mean?”

“And I tell you what? Girl-girls are tougher than girl-boys,” he said. “But there’s one important thing I noticed.The great thing about marrying into a family with five sisters, there’s always one that loves you. ‘Cause you can count on splitting them a bit. You know what I mean?

“I shouldn’t be going off like this, but — hey, folks, 37 more hours, 37 more hours,” he then said.

49. marisacat - 4 November 2008

HA! Nader called into KGO….

50. lucid - 4 November 2008

48 – good lord! Someone yank out his larynx.

51. marisacat - 4 November 2008

bad huh? AND he si doing it every day… Tapper at ABC keeps a log of them. “Oh that Joe”, in a numbered series. Up to 40 I think. Tho I found that particular one at the righties… from a couple days ago. I used it as it reveals what the so called progressives (but he is not, at all, LOL) think of women.

Not much clearly.

52. NYCO - 4 November 2008

I dunno… Biden is probably going to be the one humorous bright spot during the next four years of Obamarama. I’m sort of looking forward to that actually. I mean hell, you’re supposed to kick the VP around, not fear him (as with Cheney).

53. marisacat - 4 November 2008

Oh I think Biden will be very entertaining… and useful in his way. I’m glad for his loose flapping lips. And the media will always kindly point in another direction, as in “whaat? why? it’s just Joe…we all know Joe…”

He lips are esp loose when he is jealous or feels passed over, I have noticed over the years.. as in the aftermath of 04 when he took several extra nasty slashes at Kerry.

hey have at it.

54. NYCO - 4 November 2008

Yeah, he’ll be like a parrot perched on the company CEO’s shoulder: “RRRAAWKK! Send that SOB the bedbug letter… RRAWWWK!”

55. marisacat - 4 November 2008


Gnu Post….


……………………. 8) …………………

56. marisacat - 4 November 2008


yeah, that si so on target!

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