Friday… 12 December 2008
Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, 2010 Mid Terms, AFRICOM, Culture of Death, Greece, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War, WAR!.trackback
Athens – silent protest at Parliament – Reuters
Perusing Lenin’s Tomb yesterday I landed on this link to an October, 2006 opinion piece in the Wapo, by Susan Rice and Anthony Lake – and a NJ elected… so much goodness to come. All that matters is the map for wars.
Hurry! Hurry! Every minute not in war is a missed opportunity! Hurry!
[A]fter swift diplomatic consultations, the United States should press for a U.N. resolution that issues Sudan an ultimatum: accept unconditional deployment of the U.N. force within one week or face military consequences. The resolution would authorize enforcement by U.N. member states, collectively or individually. International military pressure would continue until Sudan relented.
The United States, preferably with NATO involvement and African political support, would strike Sudanese airfields, aircraft and other military assets. It could blockade Port Sudan, through which Sudan’s oil exports flow. Then U.N. troops would deploy — by force, if necessary, with U.S. and NATO backing.
If the United States fails to gain U.N. support, we should act without it. Impossible? No, the United States acted without U.N. blessing in 1999 in Kosovo to confront a lesser humanitarian crisis (perhaps 10,000 killed) and a more formidable adversary. Under NATO auspices, it bombed Serbian targets until Slobodan Milosevic acquiesced. Not a single American died in combat. Many nations protested that the United States violated international law, but the United Nations subsequently deployed a mission to administer Kosovo and effectively blessed NATO military action retroactively.
Unthinkable in the current context? True, the international climate is less forgiving than in 1999. Iraq and torture scandals have left many abroad doubting our motives and legitimacy. Some will reject any future U.S. military action, especially against an Islamic regime, even if it is purely to halt genocide against Muslim civilians. Sudan has also threatened that al-Qaeda will attack non-African forces in Darfur — a real possibility since Sudan long hosted Osama bin Laden and his businesses. Yet, to allow another nation to deter the United States by threatening terrorism would set a terrible precedent. It would also be cowardly and, in the face of genocide, immoral. … snip whippy…
You have to love the title for the piece…
We Saved the Europeans. Why not Africans?
Near the top of their cute little love note for war, is this:
Some 450,000 innocent human beings are already dead, and more than 2.5 million have fled their homes.
That reminds of what other country? 10 points for “Iraq”.
America and her pure white avenging bombs. Carry on.
Moving mattes’ comment from the end of the last thread, forward:
MCat, Mr. Madoff is an interesting person. I wikied him.
Bedfellows:
So it was becoming interesting and I followed, looked up Hofstra:
Home of the last debate hosted by Bob Schieffer :
So I looked up Mack, bet he had input into questions:
Which of course lead me to Israeli Bonds:
So now half the states are invested in Israel. Great. Gives new meaning to “connected at the roots”.
Sometimes I think the best thing would be for it all to crash and burn.—Wall Street that it.
Sorry for such a long post.
Sovereign wealth funds face hard time. [sob] 👿
This made me laugh. Re-fi!
May be they can claim to have been snookered into a sub prime!
Oh FFS
Granholm is calling the vote in congress last night UN-AMERICAN. That it will pitch us from recession to depression.
The future looks so bright. So bi partisan. So post racial. So divine.
I was listening to some NPR call-in drivel yesterday where schmucks and schmuckettes are whining because they own publicly registered firearms but don’t want the (I presume, unarmed) hoi polloi to be able to go down to the Sheriff’s office to see who is registered.
You know something ? Fuck them. Do these jaggoffs have any fucking clue how much personal information is already a matter of public record;how much they don’t even KNOW is readily accessible by total strangers ? Screw them. Screw their firearms. One of them is whining that oh, people act so awkward when they know I’m carrying… Yeah, fuckhead. It’s funny how I don’t want you in my house if I know you have a firearm. Keep it in the woods, on the shooting range, under your pillow, NOT in my goddamn house.
Some dipshit teacher in Medford who packs heat in a public school got all in a tizzy because NOTA forbid the kids or the parents should know that Teacher is packing heat. Ho hum. Let the lawsuits fly.
Guns and fetuses. The last frontiers of confidentiality. Nobody gives a shit about the rest. Imagine if people were as vehement about the right to an affordable doctor’s visit as they are about their right to have a filled shoulder holster in the waiting room.
God bless America.
# 4,
Sometimes I think there is some big game being played.
From your link:
Will anyone come out on top.
Even Russia is back to nationializing.
Stiglitz in the FT:
LOL listening to Barney Frank working to save JJjr’s ass. Same problem. Can’t save everyone. Esp when the deal on the table was a massive fuck up.
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Sometimes I think there is some big game being played.
I thought the same thing mattes.
Global string pulling.
mattes, thanks for the Madoff … I sent it around to a few people.
The war is between the Jews [England, USA, Australia] and Arabs [OPEC, Venezuela and ?] with China and Russia waiting to pick up the pieces? Just a guess.
Russia is still fighting it’s internal wars; Berezovsky, Friedman, etc.
Poor India trying to stay in the game. Russia is courting again.
Iran will go with OPEC.
One thing is for SURE. Wars can’t be fought without oil. The war machine would come to a quick death. And they all know it.
…mumble, mumble….
… and China looking better and better to Pakistanis. No wonder. China in much of coastal west Africa… while we hug the Horn – to death…
Officially screwed by real inflation
By The Mogambo Guru
People are really beginning to question all the clever Wall Street/Fed players.
Clever by half.
Yet, so many are walking away clean because they got out early.
Games:
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http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JL12Df01.html
Doyle McManus, LAT, on Ob/Blago/Rahm-o-Rama.
Eugene Robinson on the same.
Chicago Tribune on Abner Mikva and Obama-Rama.
What a puff piece. Puff puff puffery. But useful in stating again how long Mikva and his daugher Minow fostered Ob.
LOL I stole this from The Corner… the schnauzer pound…
Blago Affair, Blagopalooza, Blago-Rahma, Blago-Bama-Rahma, Bling4Blago, Seatwater, Grand Theft Blago, Blago-Grab (like Abu-Ghraib), Blagola (like payola), an attempt at a Blagopoly, Blag-mire, Blag-pro-quo, Blago-ditch, Blag-out, Blagobamanation, Blagobamamania, Blagobama, Grab-Blag, Dem-Blago, BlagoMart, Blagorama, Blagodrama, Blaygo (or Blago-paygo), P2PGate (Pay to Play Gate), Blagojevich 5, Senat-Ebay, E-Blago-bay gate, Blago-auction, ChiBlagoScam, Chicago’s ethical Blag Hole, Just-a-governor-from-the-neighborhood-gate, the Crackpot Dome-hair Scandal.
Or, of course, just “Chicago politics.”
Fallouts, there’s going to be some pissed people.
Madoff fraud forces foundation to close
http://jta.org/news/article/2008/12/12/1001512/lappin-foundation-loses-all-of-its-money-in-madoff-fruad-and-closes-its-doors#When:20:08:00Z
I have returned! It’s already getting nasty out there. At least I had the wind at my back on the way home. I see a long, hot bath in my near future.
So, after Harry Reid’s doomsday prognostication last nite about Wall St, why is the Dow up 64 points?
Emanuel: I’m Getting Death Threats Over Blagojevich Scandal;
Obama’s Chief of Staff Refuses to Go to Work Because of Media Stakeout
Looks like he’s losing it.
maybe Rahm needs to find that IDF outfit he wore when he maintained brakes and gears (I so buy that one!) in Israel. Take off the pink tutu.
What fucking wuss. Yesterday he hid behind his CHILDREN. JJjr hid behind his sister. (She loves me!)
Just hearing JJjr claim great spirituality for his father and brother (Jonathan). WHO FUCKING CARES! What a lousy liar. (get better liars)
Everybody give up the fucking minsiters. Stop hiding behind THEM.
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the Democrats are fear mongerers (and they are not alone). They sold the damned Paulson Nancy WH whatever TARP thru fear. At it again.
Incoming! Courtesy of the circular firing squad:
Shorter Rendell: Hillary would have cut this off at the pass. Amateurs.
Popcorn!
Oops. html clean up on aisle 4!
20. The more Jesse Jackson Jr comes out and cries (or has someone cry for him), the guiltier he looks. It’s all quite muddy: Blagojevich fundraiser held by Jackson allies Saturday.
Yeah, it’s a 4 day story by now, will dominate Sunday Soap Operettas…
Ob needs to get the story changed. If he can. Because it is a juicy one, that Rahm and JJjr seem to know only how to FEED.
Maybe the market finally hears that wuss Reid and drops 800 pts Monday. That would do it. More roll out of unknowns (about where we are now) … may not do it. Not sure some early summit of the Great Known Rivals, other wise known as Clintonistas… in CHICAGO does it either. It jsut helps concentrate media in Chicago.
Speaking of JJjr (who appears quite unstable and abysmally immature) one of the Kass links above [oops no previous thread, I will find it] has an hysterically funny story of JJjr in full baby display mode at a Democratic Ice Capades dinner in the recent past. Full on weep and hug and being handed tissues.
FIRE THEM ALL.
Here it is (tho I have read the fundraising offer was as much as 1.5 million):
Holy wascally wabbit!
27. He may be in need of medication.
Maybe Ob needs a new CoS.
Holy wascally wabbit!
Maybe the zionists are breeding it to take out Jimmy Carter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident
hmm sounds like a lot of wealthy individuals and [as yet unanamed] institutions have lost ALL THEIR MONEY with Madoff. (TNH)
And some smaller life savings who thought they were getting in on a big secret goose egg.
So, after Harry Reid’s doomsday prognostication last nite about Wall St, why is the Dow up 64 points?
Wall Street loves union busting.
Except the WH came to the rescue to day… and there is some supposition floating around that the union knew this yesterday. So they held out giving up to the Corker plan.
Tho who knows what the actual WH offering will be……….
#32 Hofstra alumni I assume. There’s going to be hell to pay.
Not surprisingly he had a base in Palm Beach. Flor-i-da.
Off to check Clusterfuckstock.
“mplo” seems well intentioned, if a bit brainwashed.
http://freespeechzoneblog.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=797EE7AF3254659887E52CD804802A15?diaryId=1768
Gideon Levy wrote a column a few years ago about Rachel Corrie, Tom Hurndall and James Miller. I can’t find it but it was published in Haaretz.
His overall argument was that the IDF changed the rules of engagement abruptly in February of 2003. If you (white English or American citizen) got into Gaza in January of 2003, you had a reasonable expectation that the IDF wouldn’t kill you. In February, that was changed and they decided to “take the gloves off.” So in March, your chances of being killed were exponentially higher.
I don’t think Levy was saying the bulldozer driver went out of his way to run her down, just that by the time it happened, his “orders” were that he should just go about the house demolition and not worry too much if he killed someone.
But I can’t believe people are still calling the ISM “naive.” They were so clearly right about what the Israelis were planning to do to Gaza.
I guess it was also “naive” for SNCC to send northern college kids down to the south where you knew someone was going to be killed by the Klan.
But maybe some people are willing to take that risk. It’s certainly a lot braver tha putting a bomb in a capitol bathroom and growing up to be an education professor.
Holy God. The whole page is Madoff. Every angle imaginable. And probably more in different sections.
http://clusterstock.alleyinsider.com/
#21: Their ground-level counterparts would be the anti-racist True Believers who wander into my LJ on occasion to complain that I’m mimicking the Right Wing because of my steadfast opinion that Golden Man will do exactly no good, but rather a great deal of harm to those who believe in his Golden Goodness the most strongly.
When I ask them exactly what I’ve said has fuck-all to do with the Right wing, in detail, they’re somehow never around to clarify.
Tag. I’m it.
Fuck ’em.
Really, there’s no legitimate cause or belief system out there that will not ultimately be chopped, channeled and ultimately incinerated so some arrogant gasbag can play king-of-the-mountain with the lives of all the little people while he stuffs his pockets with yet more loot.
Time to embrace Nihilism, perhaps. :p
I guess it was also “naive” for SNCC to send northern college kids down to the south where you knew someone was going to be killed by the Klan.
But maybe some people are willing to take that risk. It’s certainly a lot braver tha putting a bomb in a capitol bathroom and growing up to be an education professor.
Well people know going to Mississippi to organise blacks for the vote was dangerous. More than jsut Northern college kids….
Ayers needs to get off the stage. Apparently desperate for a third act. he and Bernadine are coming out there for a symposium on the death penalty. WIth Elaine Brown. I wish the Ayers couple would jsut stay away.
Their ground-level counterparts would be the anti-racist True Believers who wander into my LJ on occasion to complain that I’m mimicking the Right Wing because of my steadfast opinion that Golden Man will do exactly no good, but rather a great deal of harm to those who believe in his Golden Goodness the most strongly.
I’ve never commented on your Live Journal but I’ll plead guilty to making those arguments.
I’ll stand by the idea that it was a good thing Obama won in November.
McCain would be pushing the same kind of giveaways through Congress. And then the Democrats would still be able to disavow responsibility. Had Obama lost the Obama (or Hillary) 2012 campaign would have started on November 5th.
Now the Democrats are clearly in charge of the government. They have to take responsibility for what goes wrong. And they can’t run as outsiders.
Organizing on the left hasn’t gotten harder. It’s gotten a lot easier.
There WAS a lot of friendly fire back in the Fall. Keith Olbermann owes Hillary Clinton an apology for basically accusing her of calling for Obama’s assassination. I guess I do too but, unlike Olbermann, nobody listens to me.
Some of Bernie Madoff’s “victims”. I am so out of sympathy.
LINK
Just a snip:
Pass the collection plate, the ministers will show up.
Or get the young divorcee to sashay by …
😉
Or get the young divorcee to sashay by …
Or not yet divorced. That is how Wright acquired his current wife. She and her husband came in for couples counseling. He decided to counsel them separately (apparently this is not advised as the regular weekly set up, according to other similar ministers). Whoops.
You have to laugh.
War war war…
OH god MCat.
The name Friehing rang a bell. Is this the same family that wants to take over Likud?
Really, there’s no legitimate cause or belief system out there that will not ultimately be chopped, channeled and ultimately incinerated so some arrogant gasbag can play king-of-the-mountain with the lives of all the little people while he stuffs his pockets with yet more loot.
But there are also people like the 17th Century Quakers. I keep thinking of someone like Mary Dyer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Dyer
If I do have religious freedom, it has a lot more to do with people like that than with some cynical intellectual (eg HL Mencken) taking potshots. What would motivate someone to go back to Massachussetts time after time to defy the death penalty until she was finally hanged on Boston Common.
I don’t think I’d ever be able to say something like this on the gallows.
Nay, I came to keep bloodguiltiness from you, desireing you to repeal the unrighteous and unjust law made against the innocent servants of the Lord. Nay, man, I am not now to repent.
I’d probably die pissing my pants and begging for my life.
Here is a comment at Clusterstock:
Gordon said:
Dec. 12, 3:11 PM
looks like the owners of the Mets get nailed as much as $300M+ – Saul Katz and Fred Wilpon. You’ve heard of Black on Black violence? Well this was some Jew on Jew violence.
Keep it in the woods, on the shooting range, under your pillow, NOT in my goddamn house.
better yet, they can shove it up their tight, white, irrationally fearful asses.
It sounds like the Palm Beach CLub is waaaay past the barf bag reaction. Full on swoon.
Big Chicago said:
Dec. 12, 4:23 PM
I think his point is that for a crusader, she [Sandra Manzke] does a shockingly little amount of due dilligence. Either that or a shockingly little amount of interest in how money is made so long as it is made.
Made-Off smelled if you took more than a cursory look or could do basic math. Everyone knew that something was weird and that he was probably doing something illegal.
But hey, it paid off
China plays such a long game compared to so many other countries …
12 – Oh, fuck Israel and their scaremongering. It’s not that exotic a technology.
19 & 20 – Jeebus, what the fuck is he going to do if there is a real crisis when they’re in the big plantation mansion?
Wuss.
44 – oh, I had missed that little tidbit!
My dad used to say that he hated church b/c people only go to gossip about their neighbor’s daughter being pregnant.
Tonight: Biggest, brightest full moon of the year
Good to hear they still have a sense of humor.
Not a word not TV. Billions in monopoly money.
And it was a family affair.
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Another subject, just hear baby Caylee had her mouth taped shut. UGH.
Saw the moon last night Madman. Beautiful.
Fed Refuses to Disclose Recipients of $2 Trillion
Don’t worry, though … Teh One will take over in a month and everything will be shiny and bright.
46 – Freihling and Feiglin are the same name?
CNN’s Prisoner of War
56 mattes
Another subject, just hear baby Caylee had her mouth taped shut. UGH.
Oh mattes please, who cares. This is typical sensationalist “news”. Give it a rest.
Child murder is not entertainment.
59. Close enough for me to wonder. People often change spellings. That’s why I asked…could it be the same family.
Now this:
Netanyahu wants to postpone core issues in Mideast talks
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081211/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictisraelpoliticsnetanyahu
61. I have CNN on, sorry to bother you.
OT – interesting news on the Gallo front in direct relation to the Mongtagnier Nobel address. This letter has been submitted to the journal Science to retract the 4 original Gallo papers based on a review of the documents from the 1993 Congresssional hearings on Gallo’s theft of Montagnier’s putative virus. The papers, published for the first time by Janine Roberts this fall reveal hand written notes from Gallo to his lead author Popovic directly falsifying the claims of the lead paper. In addition there is correspondence from Matthew Gonda, then head of the Electron Microscopy Lab at NCI complaining to Gallo that there was nothing remotely retroviral in the samples he sent to be photographed [which were later published in Science. To which Gallo responded ‘cell culture seems to be necessary to induce virus’… fancy that – it only appears when you take cell tissue and expose it to extremely oxidizing conditions…
‘Twill be interesting to see what Science does with this given that since the publication of Duesberg’s 1987 paper shredding the HIV hypothesis, all ‘respected’ medical journals have carried on an overt policy of censoring any discussion of Gallo’s original ‘work’ [if you can call it that].
lucid!
I had meant to mention to you a site I thought you would enjoy…
The Hoover Hog
He has an interesting right side bar too… of dox he links to. I landed on it from a link in comments at IOZ…
Madoff apparently screwed over every super-rich Jewish investor or foundation in Palm Beach. Wow.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laurence-leamer/bernard-madoff-and-the-sh_b_150624.html
But it’s also a story to hear that apparently the SEC had been approached 3 years ago by people suspicious of Madoff… and they chose not to act.
Thanks mcat… I had noticed that link in an earlier thread, but hadn’t managed to follow it. Interesting statement by Cole [and to be honest, true, no one should be thrown in jail for writing a book]. Will take a look at the Donohue clips when I get the chance.
Sorry I haven’t been around much of late. I always popo in and read, but I’ve been sort of taking a break in general – though I did follow the big orange/fsz affair and found it mildly entertaining.
Hi lucid!
61. Oh mattes please, who cares
Who died and made you Goddess of what people care about? Mon dieu. The air must be thin up there.
67. the big orange/fsz affair
What was that about?
There is stuff at Clusterstock indicating issues as afar back as 1999 with Madoff. Again in 2001. And then again afterwards.
Further, seems likely that the sons “turning” him in may have been a scheme to save the next generation. The family was in every section of the biz. Including LOL COMPLIANCE.
So screwed.
hi Catnip.
oh some former banned Dkos poster stumbled across a public blog in which various kostopo chiefs were discussing the methods by which to get certain posters banned… quite tame, but the blogdhraaammmaa that ensued was mildly entertaining.
71. Oh, I checked out that blog after seeing something about it but didn’t follow the fallout. I didn’t know that had anything to do with FSZ.
…following Huffington link I came across the biggest losers list:
http://businesssheet.alleyinsider.com/loser-20-jerry-yang
Might these guys have to sell a house or two? Somehow I doubt it.
66.
Karma’s a bitch.
Okay. This is bizarre. The “71. Oh…” comment that I made keeps moving down the page with other comments superseding it.
Must be a full moon. 😉
Aha! It’s dated 13 December for some strange reason.
23. catnip – 12 December 2008
Oops. html clean up on aisle 4!
Oh I can get it, honey.
{ ..hopefuly betrothed,
cluelessly confident of abilities, man moves full steam ahead
thru B0tCH jÖb}
76. hopefuly betrothed
One little pesky detail about that: does this mean I have to become a (gasp!) yankee?
catnip
for some reason that comment recorded itself as being placed at 2 am Saturday am. So it kept moving along as other correctly timed comments arrrived. Think I got it to calm down. Then again I have no idea what I am doing.
… LOL
I crossed the space/time continuum. What a rush!
68 – Play along with the media hype of sensationalist stories if you must. Far be it from me to stop you 🙂
Rahmbo Round-Up: Pageants, Death Threats, and Howard Dean
71 Hi lucid! I missed all the recent fracas but it’s nice to know that people are seeing that there is indeed an ongoing conspiracy. I remember how strenuously the KosKops denied that there was any kind of collusion between them at all.
Whatever happened to Armandorama, by the way? His fall from grace was the most remarkable – once the best buddy of Markos and the enabler of troll-police everywhere, but in the end, exiled and completely shunned by his compadres. So sad.
mcat, mattes, NYCO wow. just. wow.
and one more thing
{….snorkling up soda…}
PFwaaHAHaHaHaHa!
From theHuffPo/Larry Leamer piece
“Jerry built” Irony lost on anyone?
Gag. …” great and ancient faith®”… Always got a tuck that in there at the end no matter how much cabalesque behaviour is shown.
Rich. …..{Or Not…LOL}
Aside from the standard PC use of “Jerry-built” as shoddy,…
the irony is that “Jerry”
is Allied-centric World War-ese for
…German / Kraut / Jackboot / Klepto / Fascist
GENOCIDAL NAZI THUGS.
New thread (Madman I moved your comment forward)
LINK
…………… 😈 ………………….
BHHM
moving yours forward too…
Hi Heather… I’ve tended to avoid the blogowars of late, but I did find it hilarious that a public blog was discovered where kostopo were blathering away about how to game the ratings system and who to ban [of course in violation of the precious FAQ] and then rather than the offenders being banned, it was those who brought the blog to public attention… par for the course.