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Blown 18 December 2008

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, 2010 Mid Terms, Abortion Rights, AFRICOM, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Italy, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, Sex / Reproductive Health.


Pope Benedict XVI’s skull cap is blown away in a gust of wind prior to his weekly general audience in St. Peter’s Square at the Vatican, May 24 [Picture: AP]

He’s OK, Ganswein is right there to his right (where else) to reassemble the parts and pieces of papa

This ditty from BHHM from the previous thread:

During the Advent of St Ob’s Innaug

Unprecedented in its scope,
The Vatican is now coordinating with US Central Banking moves
Both have agreed to move Christmas and the current End Of Quarter to January 20, 09.

“Shopping, shoes in particular, always has been an issue for me,” the Holy Father confessed in rare candid press conference from the Holy See.

Questioning Papal Authority, A Greek Reporter attempting to remind the Pope of the great Schism of the East was then interrupted by a younger shoe throwing Anarchist Greek, shouting Shut The Fuck Up! to both, while beanballing a shoe at Benedict, who, amazingly, snagged it like a Rock Star OutFielder, and immediately began sniffing it..

The shocked Greek Reporter was then hit by the second incoming size 10, neither as agile nor fully orgasmic as the Pontiff was at the time.

Vatican Security seemed thoroughly prepared , as they efficiently ushered the semi-spasmodic Pope from the room. Dragged towards the safety the Papal Residence, Benedict was still seen to be clutching the younger Greek’s shoe to his nostrils.

Speaking of things clerical, and things BLOWN

… via TPM Election Central, the group statement from People for the American Way:

It is a grave disappointment to learn that pastor Rick Warren will give the invocation at the inauguration of Barack Obama.

Pastor Warren, while enjoying a reputation as a moderate based on his affable personality and his church’s engagement on issues like AIDS in Africa, has said that the real difference between James Dobson and himself is one of tone rather than substance. He has recently compared marriage by loving and committed same-sex couples to incest and pedophilia. He has repeated the Religious Right’s big lie that supporters of equality for gay Americans are out to silence pastors. He has called Christians who advance a social gospel Marxists. He is adamantly opposed to women having a legal right to choose an abortion.

I’m sure that Warren’s supporters will portray his selection as an appeal to unity by a president who is committed to reaching across traditional divides. Others may explain it as a response to Warren inviting then-Senator Obama to speak on AIDS and candidate Obama to appear at a forum, both at his church. But the sad truth is that this decision further elevates someone who has in recent weeks actively promoted legalized discrimination and denigrated the lives and relationships of millions of Americans.

Rick Warren gets plenty of attention through his books and media appearances. He doesn’t need or deserve this position of honor. There is no shortage of religious leaders who reflect the values on which President-elect Obama campaigned and who are working to advance the common good.

But just for a taste of what a lonnnnngggg 4 years it will be, the mouthpiece Ambinder (emphasis mine):

From experience, one can presume that the decision to invite Rick Warren was made because (a) Obama likes the guy, and (b) he knows it would send a message to groups like the HRC, and to conservative Christians who might be wary of the new president.  Not so much pandering as it is Obama’s deft manipulation of the politics of symbolism. Obviously, Obama disagrees with Rick Warren on important issues. He has said so, many times, and publicly. And he agrees with him on other important issues. And ignoring something like Warren, a mainstream figure who commands the respect of million of Americans, would be foolish.

Obama’s message is: Rick Warren is a part of Obama’s America, too.

Delighted not to be part of Obama’s America. Any more than I was part of Bush’s America. Or Clinton’s. We’re here at the same time, but we are not alike.

Another example of what a long, bad, tired blow job the years will be… this from Sully (who by the way is still on Palin and, specifically, the Trig pregnancy):

I think the choice of Warren is almost certainly designed, in fact, as a unifying move – and it is a signal that Obama has every intention of reaching out to Christianists who have some liberal leanings on poverty, the environment, and heterosexual HIV and AIDS. (Check out the last time Rick Warren reached out to gay people with HIV or AIDS.) I understand where Obama’s coming from, and I don’t think
this is an inherently bad idea.

Building such a liberal Christianist coalition is something I saw coming, and sadly see no way to avoid.

But not on the backs of gay people, please, Mr president-elect. Wedge politics is wedge politics, whether practised by Clintons, Bushes, or, yes, Obama.

Sully also says UGH.  But before “ugh”, before the news of the Warren selection was announced today, he had several posts today calling out Warren (one linking him to the hated Palin).  Now, Warren is clearly a BFF of ObLand.  So very clear it is, that Sully fusses but genuflects to his dear-president elect.

Liberal christianist coalition”?  IN WHAT UNIVERSE?

Get a clue, Ob likes Warren.  His kind.  A long line of cassocked users hang off Ob, Meeks, Phleger and Wright, all of the SS Chicago world, Donny McClurkin, others … Ob liked to join in the weekly “prayer circle conference call”, held by his cadre of “ministers”.  FIGURE IT OUT.

And the  likes of Glen Reynolds just laugh, and why not.

Grow up FFS, throw a shoe.


What never ceases to amaze and astound me, and what is true of patriots of all stripes, whether Progs or Blue Dogs, Christian Conservatives or Lou Dobbs, is that they all profess an undying love for some country that has never existed.


1. marisacat - 18 December 2008

It’s not like what he is was hidden… Paul Street at BAR (which also has a new post on Somalia and a separate post on AFRICOM, jobs I think Ob was hired for…)

Those who think Obama is a “true progressive” whose left and democratic orientation has been “squandered” or carefully hidden thanks to his national political ambitions and/or the influence of his political handlers might want to consider an interesting description of the young phenomenon penned by the veteran black political scientist Adolph Reed Jr. just as Obama’s political career began. By Reed’s account, Obama came to the political game with an already advanced and highly cultivated bourgeois taste for incremental change and compromise with concentrated power. Alternately praised (by moderates) as “pragmatism” and “realism” and reviled (by left progressives and radicals) as “selling out” and “cooptation,” his finely honed centrism was a habit of thought that flowed naturally from his elite socialization in a corporate-neoliberal post-Civil Rights era at privileged private institutions like Columbia, Harvard, and the metropolitan foundations (including the Woods Fund of Chicago and the Joyce Foundation) on whose boards he sat and in whose circles he moved (a rarely noted aspect of Obama’s biography) while he worked as a Chicago lawyer.

Listening to Gates, that rehire at DoD, defend Rummy on with Rose.

2. bayprairie - 18 December 2008

i just went over to whackville to see how bad this week’s edition of “democrat caves to right wing” meltdown was.

this is the most laughable bit of horseshit ive seen so far.

Folks stop blaming Obama for Rick Warren. Know your history.
by icebergslim

Everyone is having a damn hissy fit and ASSUMING that the President-Elect is in charge of the actual Inaugural Events.

In fact, the Inauguration is strict protocol, down to even SELECTING WHO GIVES THE INVOCATION. Sure, the President-Elect is asked for whom he wants, but in the end it is the Joint Congressional Committee who has the final say.

3. marisacat - 18 December 2008

“he did not do it”.

He’s hawai’ian. Neither he nor Rahm knows Blago well, or in fact, at all.

4. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

For a Last Hurrah, Protesters Give Bush the Boot

The papier-mâché president makes a pretty easy target — for some, anyway.

For the antiwar crowd, the shoe is now on the other foot.

The activists were really cut off at the knees when the nation voted in a president who promises to bring an expeditious end to the war in Iraq. And in a month, the other shoe will drop: George W. Bush will be gone — and with him will go the raison d’être of those who have protested, picketed and heckled him these past eight years.

By DESIGN. Not Pink, though,… just worn.
You reach a certain point in the game when Candi Colored
Candyarm pitchers won’t do when you need the beanball to the beanbag, the metal bar stock to the numb-skull.,My view anyways…

And so they assembled yesterday on Pennsylvania Avenue, outside the White House gate, to take a few final shots. Literally. They assembled a pile of clogs, boots, flip-flops, slippers and pumps, and, in celebration of the journalist who threw his shoes at President Bush in a news conference Sunday in Iraq, they tossed the footwear at a man wearing a papier-mâché Bush mask and a prison uniform.

“Here’s my goodbye kiss, George!” shouted Medea Benjamin, coordinator of the Code Pink activist group, as she hurled a shoe, missing her target.

“For your greed! For your politics!” shouted fellow antiwar activist David Swanson, aiming a pair of clogs at the Bush figure…..

{Strike? Ball? (double entendre enclosed)
No word yet on Swanson – BHHM…}

…..The street performers were putting their best foot forward, and the activists were celebratory. But walk a mile in their shoes and you’ll probably find that Jan. 20, while bringing in an administration much more to their liking, will also leave them with a certain emptiness. Who will they throw their shoes at now?

5. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

Whoops Sorry. Imissed some closed bold to be sure

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

4 – fuck Milbank.

7. Hair Club for Men - 18 December 2008


Re: the original point last night, that the neocons were trying to undermine Tyler’s book and that they were using the pool incident to try to discredit George Tenet before he could draw any connection between Likud and the invasion of Iraq.

I find that the typical white, uniformed American thinks Israel is the righteous victim in the I/P conflict and that the Palestinians are evil terrorists.

But most black Americans and most educated Americans (college students and the kind of people who make up anti-war rallies) pretty much know what’s going on in Gaza and are pretty familiar with the Likud connection to the push for the invasion of Iraq.

Even Madman and Marisacat in their criticisms of me for being too focused on Cheney and not seeing the larger picture made the same point. “The shits has always gone on in American history. And it’s much bigger than Bush.”

And yet there’s not much of a reaction from any of us, even considering how grotesque the apartheid in Gaza is.

Madman, to his credit, DOES have an explanation why, that American culture has been a “culture of occupation” from the very beginning, that Americans instinctively identify with the oppresser.

I’d like to believe he’s wrong. I fear he’s right.

8. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

6. Millbank’s right in this case. And even though Dick Morris IS a moron as you corectly pointed out earlier, madman, If criticism is to be leveled at Millbank, Morris or any handful of others for their inneffectual sighs, gloaters that they are, why not a rexamination of tactics and their efficacy “in the opposition”, especially given that it’s such a small working group that remains??

9. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

7 Tenet LOL is already SOOO discredited. Poor George couldn’t get people to believe he’s an incontinent beefy lapdog if he pooped on their sofa…

Now for more refined matters…American culture. LOL. the imported rump of Christo Centric Europe before that, the coitus between it and its Court Financiers… the list could go on…

I prefer Marx On the Jewish Question this morn.

10. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

I certainly fucked up the HTML in my #4 big time.

Blockquotes should be before “The papier-mâché president….
(the WaPo ? Millbank lede hook)
and end after ” protested, picketed and heckled him these past eight years.”

“By DESIGN” is my take in agreement with what others have held on Ob, that his candidacy served as well fueled personnel carrier for the liquidation of the Anti War Left. ..

though not so much blame assigned to CP / ADS et al. as it is a feeling It’s time for one of two things…
Either Much Stronger measures aimed at financial disruption
or retreat into micro communities to ride it out. Street Theater is cool can be continued but a clear fork in the road has been reached.
Those who don’t get it never will: That working on The MacroCommunity level within sanctioned bounds ISN’T WORKING.

11. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

I would also say that Millbank, Establishment Dandy, that he is,
seems to be having the last laugh over this summers kerfluffle in which he tagged Ob as “presumptious.”

LOL. And the Olbermann Walk Off?
HoHoHo Chortle Chortle – .On Conglom-O-Vision?

My God you’d think the whole nation forgot IT”S TV

12. Heather-Rose Ryan - 18 December 2008

2. “but in the end it is the Joint Congressional Committee who has the final say.”

What a crock of shit. Do they think we’re stupid? Well I guess so. And I guess some people are.

I am SO GLAD I didn’t vote for Obama. I KNEW this kind of thing was going to happen – when I explained my voting choice to my remonstrating Dem friends, I said one of my big problems with O was that I didn’t like the way he pandered to the religious right. However I must admit that I didn’t expect the honeymoon to be over so soon.

13. Heather-Rose Ryan - 18 December 2008

7 American culture has been a “culture of occupation” from the very beginning, that Americans instinctively identify with the oppresser.

You can say this about every country that has ever gotten any power in the world. It’s called human nature. Animal nature, actually – it’s safer to suck up to the “alpha”.

It’s why people flock to see ball teams that are winners – particularly “dynasties” – and scorn the underdog teams.

14. marisacat - 18 December 2008


Ob hid in plain sight… LOL if one read his words. His religio shit bullshit was an early big clue. he dragged those SS ministers along like his personal family. Only more distasteful was the oleaginous slide away when it was revealed they (the first one under a microscope) were opportunists and users.. Meanwhile White Granny was a “typical white person”…

SO now he he has other ministers. Same grease.

15. marisacat - 18 December 2008

“There’s going to be a wide range of viewpoints presented during the inaugural festivities and that’s how it should be.” — Obster

Honest version, I like my pro lifers and anti gays friends. And they like me. I got a tired old CR era Rev ( Lowery) willing to dance for me, thinks I am Joshua… you’ll like him.

16. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Fresh oleo (or maybe they are excreting rancid lard by now) from both Obster and Ambinder.

Long 4 years.

17. Heather-Rose Ryan - 18 December 2008

“Interesting that pro-choicers have no objection, per se”

Well, here’s a pro-choicer who does object.

I’m not sure what planet Ambinder is on.

18. marisacat - 18 December 2008

LOL Mike Allen Politico email. I think both Warren and Doris Kearns Goodwin owe Obster a kick back.

The selection is shrewd centrist shorthand by Team Obama. Rick Warren is the most popular working religious figure short of the Pope: He’s author of the 20-million-selling ‘The Purpose Driven Life,’ with the unforgettable opening line, ‘It’s not about you.’ Styling himself as ‘Pastor Rick,’ he has given a softer face to evangelism with his attention to Africa and HIV/AIDS, and was considered fair to both presidential candidates during the forum he moderated in his sanctuary in August. TIME magazine calls him ‘America’s New People’s Pastor.’

19. marisacat - 18 December 2008


the game has been to center on gays. Just like the regs that Bush is about to push thru about [supposedly] ”conscience” for medical/health care providers is all about abortion. BC and thus wimmens.

When in both cases such a narrow take it is incorrect. AND dismissive. Media, handmaiden to The State. Whether Bush or Obster.

20. marisacat - 18 December 2008

LOL Well Obster did say “new crops” the other day, were part of his new order:

The Politico reports that Vilsack and his wife have collected $48,782 in farm subsidies. During his presidential campaign, Obama called this “waste” and said that he would cut high-dollar farm subsidies given to farmers and corporations as a way to slim down budgets.

The Obama transition team tells Politico Vilsack’s subsidies are “relatively meager” and they insist Obama will still push for reform at the agency.

Vilsack also is facing questions about lobbying. He is working in the law firm Dorsey & Whitney in Des Moines, which is said to have given advice about agribusiness. Obama has promised that lobbyists will not work in his White House, meaning that lobbyists can not work on subjects that are related to their former employer for two years.

Though Vilsack is not a registered lobbyist this blurs the lines a bit. And those who want a wholesale change in agriculture policy hope for the best but fear Vilsack ‘s record in Iowa points to “more of the same” at USDA

At a time when many are calling for food safety and hunger to be higher priorities, Vilsack signals the focus may be more on biofuels and biotech.

He’s been accused by some critics with being too closely allied with the genetically modified food industry.

That’s Tapper (below is as well)… I did not even bother to find non MSM reporting.

Where’s the new?

I caught Pollan this am on NPR:

On NPR this morning bestselling author Michael Pollan, who wrote “In Defense of Food” and “Omnivore’s Dilemma,” provided his review of Vilsack’s nomination.

“I was very disappointed in that news conference … not to hear Vilsack use the word ‘food’ — or ‘eaters.’ And the interests of everybody except eaters was discussed: farmers, ranchers, people concerned about the land.” Pollan said it seems the choice may be just “agribusiness as usual.”

21. Heather-Rose Ryan - 18 December 2008

He’s author of the 20-million-selling ‘The Purpose Driven Life,’

L. Ron Hubbard wrote a bunch of books – maybe Scientology should be represented at the Inauguration. Tom Cruise could make a speech.

Styling himself “Pastor Rick”

Like “Doctor Phil”. Ugh. Spare me the ministrations of these smarmy creeps.

22. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Zeke Emanuel will be working closely with Daschle. ZE is the physician brother whose personal health care plan calls for privatisation and easing out Medicare and MedicAid.

Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a prominent bioethicist at the National Institutes of Health–and the brother of incoming White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel–will serve as a senior counselor at the White House Office of Management and Budget on health policy, two Democratic officials said Thursday.

Zeke Emanuel will work closely with Department of Health and Human Services secretary-nominee Tom Daschle to formulate a national health insurance program and to try to curb the swelling cost of health insurance without adversely impacting health care.

Two Emanuels in the White House might sound like a voluble combination, given Rahm Emanuel’s penchant for yelling, but his brother is known for being suave and soft-spoken

Hosanna. We are so blessed. Maybe they can find a way to hire Ari Emanuel for the Obster Administration as well. Personal representation for the 4 Obsters and their individual marketing.

23. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Bush pushed thru the regs on so called conscience. Wapo. I will find a better exposition as the news congeals.

Although the Obama administration could reverse the rule, it would require a lengthy process. Last month, however, Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Patty Murray (D-Wash.) introduced a bill to repeal the regulation legislatively.

In response to criticism that the original version of the rule was too broad, the final rule clarifies that it does not apply to entities that are unlikely to use federal for health services or research, such as programs that provide financial assistance for home heating for low-income families. But the rule continues to cover a broad array of workers, including support staff, trainees and even volunteers.

24. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Leavitt has said the regulation was intended to protect workers who object to abortion, both supporters and critics said the rule remains broad enough to protect pharmacists, doctors, nurses and others who do not wish to dispense birth control pills, Plan B emergency contraceptives and other forms of contraception. While primarily aimed at doctors and nurses, it offers protection to anyone — including ultrasound technicians, nurses aides, secretaries and even janitors who have any role in the service.

Leavitt said he requested the new regulation after becoming alarmed by reports that health-care workers were being pressured to perform duties they found repugnant. He cited moves by two professional organizations of obstetricians and gynecologists that, he said, might require doctors who object to abortion to refer patients to other physicians who would provide them.

Under thsi rule a provider of any kind is allowed to withhold INFORMATION.

Gotta love a gag rule. My own guess, Obsters and Bushiters AGREED on this. So convenient.

25. marisacat - 18 December 2008

… think the only good news today is that Weyrich died.

26. catnip - 18 December 2008

So, according to Milbank, antiwar demonstrators are going to disappear when Bush is gone – while there are still 2 wars going on? Yeah. I don’t think so.

27. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Oh Noes. There be racists. Just when you need them. Prayer circles are always forming. Find one near you.

Racist Anti-Obama Emails Circulated In Alaska State Government

28. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Well who knows.. but while the poor orphan girl (assassination and cancer, she is a VICTIM) is up in harlem having chicken and collards with Sharpton:

From WNET:

RAFAEL PI ROMAN: Lastly, I know you talked to Governor Patterson about the replacement for Senator Clinton, I was wondering if you have any favorites among the candidates that are being discussed?

CONGESSMAN RANGEL: Well the governor has already made up his mind and he shared it with me, and I support that he’s going to select the best possible candidate that he can.

RAFAEL PI ROMAN: When are we going to find that out?

CONGESSMAN RANGEL: When he selects him.

29. catnip - 18 December 2008
30. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

So, according to Milbank, antiwar demonstrators are going to disappear when Bush is gone

No they won’t. At least not among us left unbetrothed to Canadians. LOL….But Millbank’s piece or not, I think it’s Valid that the
“Anti War” “Left”,certainly in numbers if not “Leadership”
( a joke term itself, coined surely by those missed on coordinating committees) …
that the #’s of the “Anti War” “Left” went for Ob’s slobber ,
(and so many DID ,headed right out the door) ..
To say it “complicates things” is generous.
It is a very serious setback.

Millbank can make his own points. Mine is it’s
Time for new strategies along with the effigies. One example:
It is wicked in its PR calculation, the PTB laying down around Obams AA narréritif:
Nothing like the challenge of burning The Historic Black Guy™
in Protests Future….

31. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Where’s the new? This has been so hard for Ob. Cannot imagine him with real issues to resolve that involve him or his closest aides. Maybe he can govern from Hawai’i while all of them are in DC. That might work.

CHICAGO–President-elect Barack Obama’s incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel had a deeper involvement in pressing for a U.S. Senate seat appointment than previously reported, the Sun-Times has learned. Emanuel had direct discussions about the seat with Gov. Blagojevich, who is is accused of trying to auction it to the highest bidder.

Emanuel talked with the governor in the days following the Nov. 4 election and pressed early on for the appointment of Valerie Jarrett to the post, sources with knowledge of the conversations told the Sun-Times. There was no indication from sources that Emanuel brokered a deal, however.

A source with the Obama camp strongly denied Emanuel spoke with the governor directly about the seat, saying Emanuel only spoke with Blagojevich once recently to say he was taking the chief of staff post.

But sources with knowledge of the investigation said Blagojevich told his aides about the calls with Emanuel and sometimes gave them directions afterward. Sources said that early on, Emanuel pushed for the appointment of Jarrett to the governor and his staff and asked that it be done by a certain date.

32. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

Rahm Rolls / Not wanting to be a distraction as Ob body Surf’s.

3 bucks. {Plunk!} Anybody? Anybody? LOL.

33. catnip - 18 December 2008

Ouch! I was just attacked by a piece of terrorist plywood in the garage and now I have a goose egg on my forehead.

This means war!! Where’s my chainsaw?

34. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Steyn is laughing at the reformer progressives (generally tho today The Corner is is in funerary crumple for Weyrich, ululations at vespers). Or whatever they are. Reformo Destructos is my name for them.

[T]his would be the point in the chick flick in which the gal playing Meg Ryan’s best friend says, “Girl, you never had him in the first place.”

35. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

Catnip, You have a GARAGE?!??

Allow me to get the plywood, …{blink, blink} LOL.

36. marisacat - 18 December 2008

LOL from an emailer:

The same Rick Warren who said abortion is akin to the Holocaust. (I suppose, by inference, that makes the women that made that choice and the health care workers that participated akin to the Gestapo?). The same Rick Warren who equated gay marriage with pedophilia and incest. And the same Rick Warren who advocates assassinating foreign leaders if he deems it God’s will.

Those are hardly mainstream views. Those are extreme views. And if President-elect Obama is inviting Rick Warren as a symbolic gesture, a hand out to those that share Mr. Warren’s views, he’s doing it at the expense of all those who find those views divisive and hate filled.

Where did people miss that Obster is a fucking BORN AGAIN?

37. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

Committee Rooms this Way….
Follow the Guy with the Sledgehammer.

TOKYO — The parliamentary battle over a contentious free trade deal in South Korea led to a confrontation on Thursday in which opposition lawmakers used a sledgehammer to knock down the doors of a blockaded room in which a committee was discussing the agreement.

Members of the opposition party were sprayed with fire extinguishers from inside as they tried to enter a parliamentary committee room.

Television footage showed fire extinguishers being sprayed at the opposition lawmakers trying to get into the room . At least one person was shown bleeding from the face.

The members of the opposition Democratic Party were trying to stop the trade agreement with the United States from advancing to the floor of parliament for a final vote. The governing party has been seeking to ratify the trade pact by year’s end, saying it would improve South Korea’s competitiveness and ties with the United States. Opponents say it will hurt South Korean farmers.

Violent clashes in the South Korean parliament, called the National Assembly, are not unheard of, reflecting the nation’s feisty brand of democracy. The trade agreement with the United States has been a particularly thorny issue, after massive demonstrations in Seoul earlier this year against the import of American beef.

Thursday’s assault came after the opposition party had threatened to block the deal by using physical force if necessary. Fearing an attack, members of the foreign affairs committee, under control of the governing Grand National Party, had barricaded themselves inside the room as they met.

38. marisacat - 18 December 2008


Come to Ob, he will heal you, as soon as the oceans recede.

39. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Campaign Spot laughs…

Richardson’s Staff: We Didn’t Hear the Question about the Grand-Jury Investigation, Honest

A television station aired footage of Bill Richardson concluding a press conference by quickly getting up and ignoring reporters’ questions about a grand-jury investigation into a campaign donor; refusing to even make eye contact. (Richardson is apparently usually eager to take questions.)…snip… but hard to do, it is so delish!

The excuses from Richardson camp are hilarious….

Down one post, Geraghty laughs at huffpo lamenter…

I heard last night from an influential environmentalist and NRDC trustee. She wondered if NRDC is truly pleased with the environment and energy officials chosen by President-elect Barack Obama and said: “I just don’t feel the urgency from this group….where is the fire?”

A very valid question and one that should give us great pause. The Blogojevich pay for play investigation, the continuing fallout of the various financial scandals and the bailouts are dominating the news.

But we also haven’t heard much inspiration from Obama lately. …snip… but so hard! It is delish!

As they (mostly white propagandists) said about Obster slobber for 2 years: Read the Whole Thing.


And I haven’t even bothered to go there all week.

40. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Farther down:

Beyond that, we’re left with some major unanswered questions: Did Valerie Jarrett ever talk with Blagojevich? Who in the Obama transition team knew that Blago was looking for a bribe? Did anyone go to Fitzgerald or other law-enforcement sources? What was the reaction when Blago asked for compensation for selecting their preferred candidate?

The press has been told that Emanuel never had any direct conversations with Blago about the seat; now other sources are contradicting that. Which is right? What was said in those conversations? Were there really 21 conversations, as one press account claimed?

Instead, we’re told, wait until the week of Christmas.

Again, imagine REAL problems for Ob. He’ll handle it the same way. Run to some white father (Fitzhoohoo) for protection. Or black ministers (hundreds all with a collection plate). Or big flabby white ministers (luv to be a fly on the wall with those two).

Where’s the new?

41. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Greg Sargent on Warren…. well bingo honey.

Obama is not so much using the left as a foil here as he is using division and polarization in general as his foil. The question that just won’t go away, however, is why campaigning against division and polarization by picking an equally radical choice on the left to give the invocation would be politically unthinkable.

Such a decision would be met not just with screams from the right, but outrage from middle-of-the-road pols and pundits all over the country. But the pick of Warren is only generating outrage from the left, so it doesn’t matter, and indeed, it’s good for Obama politically, we’re told

And Aravosis (Sargent links) asks when will we be asked to put up with other haters. Oh I’d say SOON. Try to remember obster is a BORN AGAIN.

42. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Oh noes. and noes and noes.

[T]he plan, completed last week, envisions withdrawing two more brigades, or some 7,000 to 8,000 troops, from Iraq in the first six months of 2009, the military officials said. But that would leave 12 combat brigades in Iraq by June 2009, and while declining to be more specific, the officials made clear that the withdrawal of all combat forces under the generals’ recommendations would not come until some time after May 2010, Mr. Obama’s target.

Transition officials said the plan was described in only general terms to Mr. Obama by Robert M. Gates, who is staying on as defense secretary, and Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when Mr. Obama met for five and a half hours with his national security team on Monday in Chicago. They said all participants had sidestepped the details of how to reconcile Mr. Obama’s timetable for withdrawing combat forces with the more extended one recommended by the generals. A transition official said that in future meetings, “the military will get a chance to articulate their preferences.”

In the campaign, Mr. Obama said he would not hesitate to overrule his commanders. By early December, however, he signaled some flexibility when he said that he still wanted combat troops out of Iraq in 16 months but that he would also listen to the recommendations of his generals. …snip…

he’ll over rule the mil … right? Of course he will. He’s in charge!

here is an interesting comment from a Rightie site that linked to the NYT article…

Baghdad International Airport (BIAP) is on its way to being classified a PCS post. What that means is that you will no longer “deployed” to Iraq, you will be stationed there, just like Germany or Italy or Korea.

They wouldn’t go to the effort of doing that if there were any doubts that we would be leaving precipitously. Barry ain’t changing dick.

43. Hair Club for Men - 18 December 2008

No they won’t. At least not among us left unbetrothed to anadians. LOL….But Millbank’s piece or not, I think it’s Valid that the
“Anti War” “Left”,certainly in numbers if not “Leadership”( a joke term itself, coined surely by those missed on coordinating committees) …hat the #’s of the “Anti War” “Left” went for Ob’s slobber ,(and so many DID ,headed right out the door) ..

Actually the wind went out of the anti-war movement in 2006, right after the Democrats took Congress and before Obama got into the race.

But what really killed it was the protests around the RNC. Bloomberg demonstrated that you could suppresss even the largest protests (1.1 million according to the NYPD) via mass arrests with little or no consequences.

There was a resurgence in the Summer and Fall of 2005 around Cindy Sheehan’s sitin but it never quite had the energy that the protests did in 2002 and 2003.

If it had been Obama’s campaign that killed the anti-war movement, you would have had large demonstrations in Britain in 2006 and 2007. And they didn’t happen.

The real problem was the anti-war leaderships’ inability to think around the problem of mass arrests and state repression. Retreating into the Democratis party was more of a sympton than a cause.

44. marisacat - 18 December 2008

2007 were the protests at Democratic field offices. DiFi, Pelosi… they sat on Matsui for weeks without break. Loretta Sanchez. It seemed to be mostly in CA or DC… but should be more widespread.

Blew some of them away.. as they had voted NO on AUMF (LS). But they all voted to fund the war.

A good campaign to start up again. Sit ins in front of the WH, force security to remove people. Candles and hymns, hit him iwth his own slobber. Cuz the Democrats are in charge now. If anyone missed that news.

I have linked to writings that Bloomie SOLD NYC to the RNC with the idea of a display of security. Not like they aren’t ahead of the people, at least at this point.

45. marisacat - 18 December 2008

The Lt Governor of CA is saying our credit rating is below Lousyana. The place partially wiped out in major disaster.


46. Hair Club for Men - 18 December 2008

I have linked to writings that Bloomie SOLD NYC to the RNC with the idea of a display of security.

Bingo. It was a brilliant piece of security theater. That week was about as demoralizing a week as I’ve ever experienced. It just drove a stake through the heart of the anti-war movement.

Cindy Sheehan pretty much revived the anti-war movement on her own in 2005. It was much more conservative. “Support the Troops. Bring them Home.” But you still had a half million people in DC in 2005. This time the Democrats really did kill it. They used her when they needed her and threw her away in 2006 after they took Congress back.

By the time you got to 2007, Ron Paul was pretty much the loudest anti-war voice in the country. That was more of a sign of its weakness than it’s strength. But one thing he did have going for him was the ability to articulate the anti-war case in terms middle America could understand, to draw the connections between the economy and the money being wasted in Iraq.

That’s where Obama is vulnerable, the nexis between the economy and any potential escalation in Afghanistan. Those HUGE very in your face leftist anti-war rallies in 2002 and 2003 were great for the time. They sent a message that the country wasn’t united behind Bush after 9/11.

But now I think the message should be summed up as “Hey Obama. We Can’t Afford to Kill People In Afghanistan While We’re Out of Work at Home.”

47. Hair Club for Men - 18 December 2008

The best way to protest Rick Warren would be to find someone inside of Obama’s campaign to get someone willing to do some jail time close enough to him to throw a cream pie (or a shoe) in his face.

It wouldn’t have to be at the inauguration itself. It could be any place where they have cameras and media.

48. Hair Club for Men - 18 December 2008

Or just dog him whenever he speaks to the media and chant something about his relationship with Obama.

Don’t let him get near a camera without a protest. Have someone go to his megachurch with sings that have photos of Obama and Warren with slogans like “this is change”.

Make his security goons beat you up on camera.

49. marisacat - 18 December 2008

The best way to protest Warren is to understand what it means. That it is not strategy or “good politics”. Ob is over there, with that side. Warren’s extremist statements, condemnations and exhortations work for Ob… and that “cover” of being a charismatic global leader of compassion ministries.

Such slop and hogwash.

50. Hair Club for Men - 18 December 2008

Here’s another angle to protest Obama with.


On its face, I would submit that if as president Obama blocks prosecution of Bush/Cheney administration war criminals, it will be the wounded American soldiers and their relatives, and the relatives of Americans who died in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of fighters in those countries who were recruited into battle by the images of the torture and abuse who will make his decision “politically fraught.” (And let’s not forget that failure to prosecute torture violations is itself a war crime—making Obama himself potentially culpable should he fail to act.)

51. Hair Club for Men - 18 December 2008

Ob is over there, with that side. Warren’s extremist statements, condemnations and exhortations work for Ob… and that “cover” of being a charismatic global leader of compassion ministries.

I half (or maybe 75%) agree with you.

I think the underlying reason for the media circus around Jeremiah Wright this Spring was a religious test.

Our “state religion” right now is evangelical protestantism. McCain had to pretend to be an evangelical also. I think the Clintons already were.

Obama didn’t necessarily have to stand up for Jeremiah Wright, but, insofar as he goes along with the religious hazing, he is in fact “on their side.”

He could have just as easily joined another liberal Protestant church last Spring.

52. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Obama didn’t necessarily have to stand up for Jeremiah Wright, but, insofar as he goes along with the religious hazing, he is in fact “on their side.”

His presidency was at stake. The party and the operatives, media, pundits, the whole schmear let him prattle that he never heard the sermons. It was pretty entertaining to listen to that bullshit. Or they said Wright had said those things “years ago”… some of it was from January 2008. Or they said (Sheer was one, but only one…) that Wright only said what Martin had said. Well, there is sacrilege. Or they let Ob say, in an about face, that he hardly ever made it to church. LOL. Moyers, the “liberal” flip side of the R establishment… helped. UCC recruited him, imo.

On and on. He’s glib.. and he had as much help as he could handle..

53. catnip - 18 December 2008

Holy fuck, it’s cold out there.

I just had to share that.

Carry on.

54. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Hot tea!

55. mattes - 18 December 2008

Winter Wonderland here. I hate to go disturb the beautiful snow.

56. marisacat - 18 December 2008

More Ambinder mouthpiece work.. Geesh. From what I read, the “Kennedy family” has assured ”the DSCC” that ”’Caroline will be a self funder’, now, in 2010 and beyond. Ambinder managed to leave that out.

Is it possible for the Democratic to really be, at once, the party of Obama of Hawaii, Hyde Park, Kansas and Kenya — and also the party of legacies?

On the other hand, it is difficult, in a year in which Obama defeated a former first lady, and then the son and grandson of Navy Admirals, to make the case of a Dem-lead noblesse oblige-apalooza. Not the nobility of family or birth, at least.

57. catnip - 18 December 2008

Hot tea!

On it!

I hate to go disturb the beautiful snow.

Well, that’s what I was thinking too. 🙂

Unfortunately, xmas is a week away and the grandherbs must have gifts. Not to mention the fact that I didn’t disturb the snow all week and was running out of some groceries.

58. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

woo hooo, good evening kids! Can you just FEEL the purpose-driven CHANGE?!?!

I know I can!!!


59. marisacat - 18 December 2008

NBC news… Madoff connection to Israel “significant”. News? LOL. Apparently Israeli charities all tied up in knots with Bernie. And bereft now.

Somehow I smell a double scam.

60. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

40 Jesus, Mcat, LOL. or Jack Nicholson, is it?

“And Aravosis (Sargent links) asks when will we be asked to put up with other haters. Oh I’d say SOON.
Try to remember obster is a BORN AGAIN.”

61. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

Madman, to his credit, DOES have an explanation why, that American culture has been a “culture of occupation” from the very beginning, that Americans instinctively identify with the oppresser.

I’d like to believe he’s wrong. I fear he’s right.

Me too … I think I’ve spent most of my time growing up searching for reasons to believe otherwise. I can’t anymore.

62. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

why not a rexamination of tactics and their efficacy “in the opposition”, especially given that it’s such a small working group that remains??

I can’t bring myself to take potshots at the prey species, as the rest of the culture does a pretty good job of it already.

I thought the resistance in Seattle was onto something, but expanding police powers and a bought-and-sold media have made anything like that nearly impossible, short of Greek-style streetfights, and I don’t think Americans have it in them. There were several groups in in the NW who tried to block the loading of war materiel onto ships, only to be utterly ignored by not only the media but most of the “left”. Iraq Vets Against the War have tried to occupy the National Archives a couple of times, again only to be ignored.

I don’t know what the answer is, and I’m too old, out-of-shape and bourgeois to go out and get my head kicked in by a meathead cop. I’m certainly not going to criticize those who try.

63. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

Looove the flying beanie pic! Expressions on the faces of the entourage are priceless. Such a nice combo with BHHM’s papal shoe dream scene.

Speaking of wasting money in Iraq, here’s one to get the wage slaves here enraged: Audit: FBI agents billed $45k apiece for Iraq OT.

Taxpayers were billed an average of $45,000 in overtime and extra pay for each FBI agent temporarily posted to Iraq over the course of four years, according to a new Justice Department report. In some cases, agents were paid to watch movies, exercise and attend parties.

In all, the audit by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine found the FBI racked up $7.8 million in improper wages between 2003 and 2007.

Thursday’s report blamed a faulty FBI policy that allowed agents to claim the extra time and money. An FBI spokesman said that policy — which initially sought to enlist volunteers to go to dangerous war zones — is no longer in place.

In other AP news today, somebody in Wilkes-Barre has been busted by the SPCA for marketing “gothic kittens” (with ear and tail piercings, etc.). 25 southwest of guess what?! Scranton!

And Burger King introduced a new men’s body spray called “Flame,” which it describes as “the scent of seduction with a hint of flame-broiled meat.”

Ya just can’t make this stuff up.

64. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

13 – what makes the USA a slightly different (and to my mind worse) case is our constant claims of NOT being like all those other powerful countries. It’s the bullshit lying about history and motives that slathers the whole bloody mess with a candy coating of duplicitous evil … all of this going back before the shredded treaties and 3/5s of a person sophistry to give an oppressor class more representation in this fake “democracy”. Back to the initial settlers murdering entire families, raping their daughters and stealing their land. Yes, again not so different, but spare me the fairy tale about the first Thanksgiving.

65. marisacat - 18 December 2008

I thought the groups in the NW risked a lot. Olympia WA, iirc. They struck at the port areas wehre the Stryker brigades shipped out for Iraq….

In 2005 (think it was) there were the very small groups of Catholic laity who committed civil disobedience. I followed the ”Binghampton .. Four”, I think it was. Classic acts, they entered a recruiting station and spilled cows blood in the rest rooms. Awful court routines, iirc they served 6 months or so each for the incidents. There were issues of charges of terrorism. Think they were finally lifted. Cannot recall it all now.

66. marisacat - 18 December 2008


oh the kittens… how awful.. esp for playful kittens and little claws, with dangly things from the ears.

67. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

There’s a gang of religious who try to perform citizen’s arrests on Rove, too.

68. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

64- Yoiks. Too right. Not sure how big an operation it really was . . . they took 3 kits and a cat. The woman apparently had a pet grooming biz in her basement.

FYI, and perhaps it’s already been covered, but I heard yesterday that NYS polls are showing voters here roughly equally divided between Kennedy and Cuomo, with comparable pos/negs. Guess New Yawkers like their celebs and scions – it’s all about the perceived potential flash and powah.

69. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

Warren released a statement:

“I commend President-elect Obama for his courage to willingly take enormous heat from his base by inviting someone like me, with whom he doesn’t agree on every issue, to offer the Invocation at his historic Inaugural ceremony,” Warren said in a statement on Thursday. “Hopefully individuals passionately expressing opinions from the left and the right will recognize that both of us have shown a commitment to model civility in America.”

Translating from fundie asshole — “shut up you fucking fags”.

Speaking of that “model civility”, from the same piece:

Some religious conservatives said they welcomed the selection, noting it indicated among other things that Obama was prepared to reach out to them.

“I think it’s an excellent choice. Rick Warren is loved by millions of people … radical gays don’t like him but most people do,” Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, told Reuters.

“Had Obama been so stupid as to choose a lesbian minister, all the attention would be on the minister and not the person becoming president. But if Obama is reaching out to social conservatives it would be plain stupid of them to close the door on him,” he said.

Can’t you feel the xtian love?

70. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

Correction: Ya just can’t make this stuff up and not try to make a few bucks off the novelty.

Big snow coming tomorrow here.

71. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

a commitment to model civility in America

That’s a keeper!

Where’s mx_xeno – somebody’s gotta draw the cartoon.

As far as activism goes, I’d like to see a lot more flashy and powahful art. All kinds. Prominently displayed.

72. marisacat - 18 December 2008

With economy in shambles, Congress gets a raise

by Jordy Yager

A crumbling economy, more than 2 million constituents who have lost their jobs this year, and congressional demands of CEOs to work for free did not convince lawmakers to freeze their own pay.

Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.

“As lawmakers make a big show of forcing auto executives to accept just $1 a year in salary, they are quietly raiding the vault for their own personal gain,” said Daniel O’Connell, chairman of The Senior Citizens League (TSCL), anon-partisan group.“This money would be much better spent helping the millions of seniors who are living below the poverty line and struggling to keep their heat on this winter.”

However, at 2.8 percent, the automatic raise that lawmakers receive is only half as large as the 2009 cost of living adjustment of Social Security recipients.

Still, Steve Ellis, vice president of the budget watchdog Taxpayers for Common Sense, said Congress should have taken the rare step of freezing its pay, as lawmakers did in 2000.

73. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

Big snow coming tomorrow here.

us too, tonight!

74. marisacat - 18 December 2008


The only thing I’d give Cuomo (and I am not fond of any of this… nt that it matters, LOL) is that he has, as a minimum, achieved elected status. AG is elected in NYS…?

But as I said, fwiw. Not much… 😯

75. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008


Of course, Barack Obama knows, and Joe Biden knows, and Nancy P. and Harry R. know, that if Barry O. dons the scarlet robes of an emperor and has himself crowned Grand Moff of the Universe by the Pope, the Dalai Lama, and the Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Progressives will still come out for the party, before returning to their blurgs to murmur darkly about the traitorous thanksralphery of “purists,” whose uncompromising un-commitment to lesser-evilism makes them an eternal target of proggie ire. “The perfect,” they cry, “is the enemy of the good.” True. But so is the bad. The problem with the Democratic Party is not forgivable imperfection. The problem is that the Democratic Party is evil, vicious, and wrong. Is Rick Warren a vacuous moral apologist for American exceptionalism? Yes! The word for his selection is: appropriate.

76. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

*42 bump- a -dump -a- dump
Not into it.
Jesus Fuckin Christ Hair Club. You still think RON PAUL was an Anti War Voice.

Timeline in *43 correct. It was all there in place when St John prepared for Black Jesus and Paul was playing both sides of the fence.

This shit is done WHOLESALE. Until you go to their ability to PURCHASE Wholesale you’re nothin but a Beanie Boy on a bus trip. HERE, with DINO and your best laid plans, too.

77. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

here, some anti-war lefties to disparage:

Calendar of Actions in DC This January

1/6 Capitol Hill: March of the Dead on Opening Day of Congress: help us carry the names of those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and demand that Congress end the occupations.

78. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

OOOO, mock these, too!

Support the Occupation of New School University!
Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2008-12-18 18:21. Activism Nonviolent Resistance

Come to the New School Graduate Faculty Building on 65 5th Avenue
(in Manhattan; any train to Union Square)

Students of the New School University, from the Radical Student Union and SDS, along with supporters from universities including NYU, Hunter College, City College of NY, CUNY Graduate Center, Rutgers University and Borough of Manhattan Community College, are currently occupying the New School Graduate Faculty Building (65 5th Avenue in Manhattan – @14th Street).

Right now, between 250 and 300 students are occupying the building, and there are several hundred students in front, chanting “War criminal Kerry, resign!” Organizers are asking anyone who can to come out now to support the students.

For updates on the occupation, see http://www.newschoolinexile.com or NY Indymedia.

F.I.S.T. (Fight Imperialism Stand Together) stands in solidarity with the New School Occupation, and we encourage every one who can to come out to support the students who are taking an important step forward. All OUT to support the growing struggle.

79. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

more dirty hippies in moderation.

80. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

Madman – Does it get quiet for awhile where you live, when it snows big? That’s one of my favorite winter things.

AG is elected in NYS


81. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

76 Make for nice calenders.

82. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

IB, I think it does further west, but I’m fairly close to Lake Michigan, so it generally gets windy here right before a big weather change, as the temp difference btwn the new air and the lake stirs everything up.

It’s supposed to get started in a couple of hours, supposedly 5+ inches when I wake up, with snow continuing until mid-afternoon.

We’ll see.

83. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

79 True that

84. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008
85. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

I mean, Yep.

New York State Attorney General is the chief legal officer of the State of New York. The office has been in existence in some form since 1626, under the Dutch colonial government of New York.

From 1684 to 1777, when New York was under the British colonial government, the Attorney General was appointed by the British crown, or the colonial governor on its behalf. In 1693, the Attorney General earned a salary of 50 pounds.

From 1777 to 1822, the Attorney General was appointed by the Council of Appointment.

From 1823 to 1846, the Attorney General was elected by the New York State Legislature for a three-year term..

Attorneys General have been elected by the voters since 1847.

86. marisacat - 18 December 2008

thanks for that IB…

87. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

Nooo Yawkers like to pick their own lawyers don’t you know and thank you very much.

Snicker snicker snicker snicker snicker.

88. NYCO - 18 December 2008

There was a time when I disliked Cuomo exactly for the scion thing, but he has actually done a decent job as AG, following in Spitzer’s mighty shoes. In fact, I think he has done a better job than Spitzer in that Spitzer was obsessed with confronting Wall Street personalities and Cuomo seems more interested in attacking the mechanics of stuff like student loans.

He would be less of a distraction than CKS.

89. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

The issue being discussed is this: efficacy,..and no back door in a discussion over efficacy to say “Well, easy to talk about it” ..when in fact we are talking , all that can be done in a general way on the tubes really, other than to publicize and post calenders…

Until frank discussions over efficacy begin with THEIR AIN’T NONE,
there ain’t gonna BE NONE.

The course of actions are clear. Harldy ones to lay out specifically on the tubes. And while protests will continue, are fine and laudable as such, they are missing the point most needed. Until it costssomeone something of VALUE on the other side, and yes there most assuredly is another side even though it now takes the shape of encirclement…..Until real tangible downside is inflicted you run into a peacemakers paradox. Unwilling to inflict, — Peace, but never Peace Make Believers goes the way of extinction…….

90. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

Thanks in part to the door-framing asshole (and other issues involving reduced hours, elimination of paid vacation/weather/hollerdaze, and countdown to luckyduckyhood through the solstice, if certain leads don’t pan out quick), I’m scheduled to drive out in a couple of inches in the morning and then return in the thick of it out of a zone expecting 5-10 before nightfall.

Me and the big rigs, on the road again!

For cripe’s sake don’t depend on the comment numbers in WordPress, BHHM. You’re hard enough to follow around sharp corners as it is.

91. NYCO - 18 December 2008

HOWEVER… regarding the whole senatorial appointment thing… I’m pretty much at the point now where I wonder if this country even NEEDS senators. What good do they actually do, sitting on their rarefied clouds and rolling over to be screwed by whatever president is in office?

I’m at the point now where I’m starting to wonder if the only meaningful political leadership comes from county executives.

92. marisacat - 18 December 2008

I apologise on the numbers… I found a catnip comment from this am in Spam. Upthread.. a link to the single word “hilarious”.

It threw off the numbers… 😳

93. marisacat - 18 December 2008

Since the numbers are off will push this post along:

New post….


……………. 😳 ……………..

94. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 December 2008

BHHM – I have no idea. I don’t think anyone else does, either. There is a heavily armed state militia masquerading as a “police” department in most cities in this country, and they are willing to beat, torture with electric shocks and even kill citizens in the streets or their own homes over minor criminal offenses, let alone when they stand against gov’t policy. The corporations that destroyed what there was of our press are pushing harder and harder to squelch the net and other ways of communication outside of controlled channels.

I’m just an indignant loudmouth with a keyboard who has been driven off of most of the larger “left” forums and I certainly don’t have any questions. All I’ve ever been good at is asking sarcastic loaded questions and presenting unwelcome histories. I’m not in any way, shape or form someone who dreams up solutions.

95. mattes - 18 December 2008

As some of you know I read a lot of Jewish newspapers trying to keep up with the latest I/P news.

Madoff news non-stop, what’s a little business between friends:

“What I hope happens is people become more careful,” said Rabbi Daniel Allen, CEO of the American Friends of Magen David Adom. “For instance, how is it that Y.U. lost $100 million, and the person who invested the money was an officer of the board? I think that’s called conflict of interest.”

Y.U. has already announced that it will re-examine its conflict-of-interest policies.

Madoff hurt the –less well off—they have to sell their second home, on Long Island:

In addition to wealthy clients, Madoff lured in more modest investors. Starting 32 years ago, on the advice of their accountant, Joan and Arnold Sinkin of Boynton Beach, Fla., began investing with Madoff. After they finished putting their kids through college, the Sinkins began to steadily add to their stake with Madoff, a few thousand dollars at a time, until he controlled most of their life savings.

“We were really what you call middle class,” said retired physical therapist Joan Sinkin, 75, in an interview with the Forward. “I felt lucky to be with them.”

Now, their savings are almost entirely gone, and they may be forced to sell their condo on Long Island. Yet even now, reflecting on her talks with Madoff, Joan Sinkin can’t quite believe what has happened.


96. BooHooHooMan - 18 December 2008

87 LOL. …Nooo Yawkers like to pick their own lawyers don’t you know and thank you very much. Snicker snicker …IB

Very Well Played , DavefromQueensbury Rules. and all.

97. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

What good do they actually do, sitting on their rarefied clouds and rolling over to be screwed by whatever president is in office?

Exactly. Could we leave some regional people who seem to be actually working in place? Enjoy your twisted puppet show and leave the rest of us alone.

98. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

Madman – Yer weather map nearly ate my browser. I’m gonna have to give you revenge with an update tomorrow. Current forecasts in both places I gotta be: Chance of snow: 100%.

76 Make for nice calenders.

Well loookee there . . . an activism idea!

Somebody should make a few bucks offa that . . . Il Baby needs a new pair of shoes!

99. Intermittent Bystander - 18 December 2008

As in, Il Babies of teh world.

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