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Small… 20 December 2008

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, UK.


… a dormouse, snoozing at Fyne Court, Somerset [Picture: APEX]

… then again, he or she is tiny



1. marisacat - 20 December 2008

This which IB posted to the previous thread has quite a few tidbits and links about CKS. Links to and quotes some of Wayne Barrett reporting…

Link to Albany Project

Barrett did some shoe-leather reporting, and discovered that CK did not personally raise as much money for the schools as has been reported elsewhere, and that her volunteer gig was very part-time.

One of Kennedy’s main jobs as chief executive of the Office of Strategic Partnerships was to oversee the Fund for Public Schools, the public/private partnership that raised hundreds of millions under Bloomberg. The Fund’s tax-exempt filings with the Internal Revenue Service listed her as working one hour a week for the Fund in 2003 and two hours in 2004, the years she was at DOE. She has remained a vice chair of the Fund, which is also represented by (Bloomberg PR profiteer Josh) Isay and is chaired by Klein, and has more recently continued to do two hours a week of service, according to the filing.

Barrett demolishes the idea that CK was single-handedly responsible for the fund’s fund-raising. …snip….

2. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 December 2008

A friend sent me this:

Once a Political Riser, an Israeli Challenges His Country’s Identity

Widely known by his nickname, Avrum, Mr. Burg, a happily married father of six and the son of one of Israel’s most admired and longest-serving government ministers, was talked about as a candidate for prime minister. Long before his 50th birthday, he led the World Zionist Organization and served as speaker in Parliament.

But four years ago Mr. Burg not only walked away from politics, but also basically walked away from Zionism. In a book that came out last year and has just been translated and released in the United States, he said that Israel should not be a Jewish state, that its law of return granting citizenship to any Jew should be radically altered, that Israeli Arabs were like German Jews during the Second Reich and that the entire society felt eerily like Germany just before the rise of Hitler.

In other words, rather than reconciling the country’s complex tensions, Mr. Burg ended up imploding from them.

“I realized something about myself and Israel that frightened me,” he said recently, looking back over the past few years. “I realized that Israel had become an efficient kingdom with no prophecy. Where was it going? What is a Jewish democratic state? What does it mean that Jews define themselves by genetics 60 years after genetics were used against them?”

Israel is no stranger to self-examination. Its leaders and thinkers, indeed many of its average citizens, are aware that nearly everything about the place defies normal categorization and is subject to debate. This is a source of both pride and irritation. But many said Mr. Burg, 53, was not just asking delicate questions. He was poisoning the well from which the nation — and he — had long drawn their water.

As Ari Shavit, a writer for the newspaper Haaretz, said to him in an interview when the book was published here: “Your book is anti-Israel in the deepest sense. It is a book from which loathing of Israeliness emanates.”

Mr. Burg rejected that accusation and still does. He wrote from love, he said, and if the issues he raised were troubling, if they caused a stir, that was very much his aim.

There is no doubt that he raises some serious questions: Is Israel too focused on the Holocaust as a touchstone of history? Can it stay both Jewish and democratic over the long term, or is it time to look for another model? What kind of future is there for Israeli Arabs?

Less clear, however, is whether Mr. Burg has provided any serious answers. This is partly because his book and discourse vacillate between two poles: congratulating Jews and the Zionist movement for their success so far, but warning them that they are turning into a kind of self-justifying Sparta, a warlike state on the verge of tragedy.

3. mattes - 20 December 2008

And this:

ADL, YouTube launch partnership to fight video abuse

The Anti-Defamation League announced Sunday its recent expansion into the world of YouTube, the on-line video-sharing site.

The US-based advocacy group has officially partnered with the digital media powerhouse in an effort to combat hate speech and other forms of abuse.

As the largest Web-video hub, YouTube relies primarily on its users to hunt down and delete inappropriate content, or to ban abusive members. While the extent of the ADL’s role in that process is not yet known, the organization has already made a place for itself in YouTube’s new “Abuse and Safety Center,” where users are given advice directly from the ADL on how to confront hate speech.


4. mattes - 20 December 2008



Kennedy comes out for gay marriage

Caroline Kennedy is finally sharing some of her political opinions with the people she’s campaigning to represent — casting herself in the liberal tradition of uncle Ted Kennedy, bucking Barack Obama by supporting same-sex marriage and disavowing Hillary Clinton’s 2002 vote for the Iraq invasion.

A Kennedy spokesman drafted seven written answers to the eight questions submitted by Politico to the 51-year-old attorney, author and electoral novice.


QUESTION 2: Same-sex marriage. Do you support the right of gay and lesbian couples to marry? Do you think it’s appropriate that Rick Warren, who campaigned to ban gay marriage, is delivering the invocation at Obama’s inauguration? If not, have you expressed that to the president-elect?

ANSWER: “Caroline supports full equality and marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples.”

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 December 2008

These people have NO sense of perspective:

“It’s Kristallnacht Two!” An Ethnic Cleansing in America

In terms of financial and psychological impact, Bernard Maddow’s $50 billion heist certainly ranks as a major ethnic cleansing here in America, a hugely traumatic event for American Jewry. Of course Madoff had clients of every creed and nation, but he made a specialty of trolling for Jewish money. I asked a Jewish woman I know here in California if any in her circle had taken a hit. She looked at me tremulously, shaking her head, on the edge of tears. Though no one was in immediate earshot, she whispered, “They kept telling me to put my money with Madoff. At that time the entry level was $250,000. I dodged the bullet. Some of my friends didn’t. They’ve lost everything. This is Kristallnacht Two.” Her fear and horror would scarcely have been diminished if she’d heard what a perfectly nice young person had remarked to me earlier, apropos the Madoff affair: “Now the rich people will know what it’s like.”

“‘It’s an atomic bomb in the world of Jewish philanthropy,’ Mark Charendoff, president of the Jewish Funders Network, told Anthony Weiss and Gabrielle Birkner of The Forward newspaper. ‘There’s going to be fallout from this for years to come.’ The collapse of the investment firm of Bernard Madoff has opened a black hole at the center of the tight knit circles of wealthy Jews who socialize and do business together, and who, year after year, support Jewish causes… ”

Among those apparently taking serious and even financially fatal hits: Yeshiva University in New York; Senator Frank Lautenberg, New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon, real estate and media mogul Mortimer Zuckerman (“significantly hurt”), GMAC Financial Services chairman J. Ezra Merkin (who ran a hedge fund, Ascot Partners, which reinvested many charities’ funds with Madoff), the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity, Steven Spielberg’s Wunderkinder Foundation, Jeff Katzenberg, the Boston-based Robert I. Lappin Charitable Foundation (which has closed its doors), Eliot Spitzer’s family, the Chais Family Foundation, the Carl and Ruth Shapiro Foundation, Hadassah (the Women’s Zionist Organization of America), the United Jewish Endowment Fund of the Jewish Federation of Greater Washington , the Los Angeles’ Jewish Community Foundation’s $238 million Common Investment Pool, the American Jewish Congress, the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology.

It’s a savage body blow to the commercial real estate market in New York. Christine Haughney in Friday’s New York Times quotes Robert J. Ivanhoe, a lawyer who is representing 10 developers and investors who lost $5 million to $50 million each, as saying “The level of devastation, both financial and on a human level, is astounding,” Haughney cites a Manhattan psychotherapist who counsels real estate leaders and bankers as saying “most of the patients he has seen this week have close friends and relatives who lost money with Mr. Madoff. The victims include executives at the global commercial brokerage CB Richard Ellis, most prominently Stephen Siegel, a major Bronx landlord who is chairman of worldwide operations at the brokerage.”

What do you say to this … in a country with huge populations of children living in poverty? They were conned, and they were conned by one of their own who played upon their own sense of entitlement and superiority.

6. marisacat - 20 December 2008

This is Kristallnacht Two.”

what a fucking IDIOT.

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 December 2008

Country Without Mercy

We have to ask ourselves, why American service men and women and CIA operatives delight in torturing people about whom they know nothing? It has been well known since the Stalin era that torture never produces accurate information. Yet, U.S. soldiers and CIA personnel jumped at the green light given to torture by President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, and the U.S. Department of Justice. Why weren’t our soldiers shocked instead at the immorality of their leaders?

One answer is that the U.S. military no longer operates according to a code of honor. Military discipline in the traditional sense does not exist. The ethos of the U.S. military has degenerated into kick-ass macho. Major General Taguba, who, instead of covering up the Abu Ghraib scandal, attempted in his report to hold the U.S. military to its traditional principles, was forced to resign from the U.S. Army.

Another answer is that the work of torture, like police work and prosecutorial work, attracts brutal people who enjoy inflicting harm on others. The two Republican female U.S. attorneys in Alabama who framed Democratic Governor Seligman enjoyed ruining Seligman and bringing grief to his family.

Deborah Davies of the BBC’s Channel 4 undertook a four-month investigation of the torture of American prisoners inside American prisons. Videos taken by sadistic prison guards and videos recovered from surveillance cameras reveal horrible acts of torture and even of murder of prisoners by prison guards.

An American prison reformer told Deborah Davies, “We’ve become immune to the abuse. The brutality has become customary.”

“Law and order conservatives” have a great responsibility for this evil. Just as “law and order conservatives” created hysteria among the people about crime, they created hysteria about terrorists. Hysterical people condone great evils and arm government with power in the mistaken belief that it will protect them.

What kind of people have we become when we exercise no oversight over a criminal justice (sic) system that destroys the lives of innocent people and locks them away in prisons to be tortured by sadistic guards?

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 December 2008

Committing war crimes for the “right reasons”

Nonetheless, Douthat repeatedly explains that he is burdened by “uncertainty, mixed together with guilt, about how strongly to condemn those involved,” and one of the central reasons for that uncertainty — one that is commonly expressed — is contained in this passage:

But with great power comes a lot of pressures as well, starting with great fear: The fear that through inaction you’ll be responsible for the deaths of thousands or even millions of the Americans whose lived you were personally charged to protect. This fear ran wild the post-9/11 Bush Administration, with often-appalling consequences, but it wasn’t an irrational fear – not then, and now. It doesn’t excuse what was done by our government, and in our name, in prisons and detention cells around the world. But anyone who felt the way I felt after 9/11 has to reckon with the fact that what was done in our name was, in some sense, done for us – not with our knowledge, exactly, but arguably with our blessing. I didn’t get what I wanted from this administration, but I think you could say with some justification that I got what I asked for. And that awareness undergirds – to return to where I began this rambling post – the mix of anger, uncertainty and guilt that I bring to the current debate over what the Bush Administration has done and failed to do, and how its members should be judged.

This is the Jack Goldsmith argument: while what Bush officials did may have been misguided and wrong, they did it out of a true fear of Islamic enemies, with the intent to protect us, perhaps even consistent with the citizenry’s wishes. And while Douthat presents this view as some sort of candid and conflicted complexity, it isn’t really anything more than standard American exceptionalism — more accurately: blinding American narcissism — masquerading as a difficult moral struggle.

But none of those facts justify tyranny, terrorism or war crimes. There are virtually always “good reasons” that can be and are cited to justify war crimes and acts of aggression. It’s often the case that nationalistic impulses — or genuine fears — lead the country’s citizens to support or at least acquiesce to those crimes. War crimes and other atrocities are typically undertaken in defense against some real (if exaggerated) threat, or to target actual enemies, or to redress real grievances.

But we don’t accept that justifying reasoning when offered by others. In fact, those who seek merely to explain — let alone justify — the tyranny, extremism and/or violence of Castro, or Chavez, or Hamas, or Slobodan Milosevic or Islamic extremists are immediately condemned for seeking to defend the indefensible, or invoking “root causes” to justify the unjustifiable, or offering mitigating rationale for pure evil.

Yet here we have American leaders who now, more openly than ever, are literally admitting to what has long been known — that they violated the laws of war and international treaties which, in the past, we’ve led the way in advocating and enforcing. And what do we hear even from the most well-intentioned commentators such as Douthat? Yes, it was wrong. True, they shouldn’t have done it. But they did it for good reasons: they believed they had to do it to protect us, to guard against truly bad people, to discharge their heavy responsibility to protect the country, because we were at war.

All of the same can be said for virtually every tyrant we righteously condemn and every war criminal we’ve pursued and prosecuted. The laws of war aren’t applicable only in times of peace, to be waived away in times of war or crisis. To the contrary, they exist precisely because the factors Douthat cites to explain and mitigate what our leaders did always exist, especially when countries perceive themselves at war. To cite those factors to explain away war crimes — or to render them morally ambiguous — is to deny the very validity of the concept itself.

The pressures and allegedly selfless motivations being cited on behalf of Bush officials who ordered torture and other crimes — even if accurate — aren’t unique to American leaders. They are extremely common. They don’t mitigate war crimes. They are what typically motivate war crimes, and they’re the reason such crimes are banned by international agreement in the first place — to deter leaders, through the force of law, from succumbing to those exact temptations. What determines whether a political leader is good or evil isn’t their nationality. It’s their conduct. And leaders who violate the laws of war and commit war crimes, by definition, aren’t good, even if they are American.

9. marisacat - 20 December 2008

Well I for one am very interested in seeing such an awkward thing as CKS elevated to the senate. Makes perfect sense, on all fronts.

10. marisacat - 20 December 2008

LOL from the Politico email (which I am jsut getting to)

May they all claw each other to death:

THE BIG IDEA – Politico’s Glenn Thrush and Harry Siegel, ‘Nepotism N.Y.-style as clans vie for seat’: ‘The appointment of the New York Senate seat Hillary Clinton will shortly vacate has become a struggle among political dynasties, with the question being which family ends. up on top. It involves no fewer than five intertwined political clans of varied national and regional standing-the Clintons, the Kennedys, the Cuomos, the Patersons and the Suozzis, with cameo appearances by the Ickes and the Rutnik-Gillibrand families. As the clans clash and collude to fill the soon-to-be vacant seat, the frontrunner to replace the former first lady appears to be Caroline Kennedy, the former first daughter with an unexceptional resume and a low public profile prior to her campaign work for Barack Obama earlier this year.’

11. mattes - 20 December 2008

# good article.

Obviously, there is a war on Islam, “right reasons” just a justification for the masses. Right reasons “are” the true war porn, not photographs of the dead, which are just documentation of the real cost of war.

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 December 2008

It is instructive to watch Major Matthew Alexander and Federalist Society kingpin David Rivkin discuss the torture issue on the Riz Khan Show

It’s interesting to watch Alexander’s body language as Rivkin gives the usual party line. Rivkin basically calls Alexander a liar once or twice (very nicely) about his use of more humane methods of interogation.

13. marisacat - 20 December 2008

So appropriate… McLean VA for PW:

PAUL WEYRICH SERVICE – Monday — The Holy Transfiguration Melkite Church hosts the funeral for Free Congress Foundation founder and Heritage Foundation co-founder Paul Weyrich. 8501 Lewinsville Road, McLean, Va. Burial will occur following the funeral at Fairfax Memorial Park, 9900 Braddock Road, Fairfax.

14. marisacat - 20 December 2008

David Rivkin is an awful man… and I would suspect a dual, Israeli US… tho I could find no inkling of that when I did some limited googling on him a couple years ago.

15. mattes - 20 December 2008

Madoff must be the first Jewish crook that can’t go running to Israel.

16. BooHooHooMan - 20 December 2008

Hillary Rosen just shoveling slop on HuffPo

Beyond Rick Warren

The advantage in having disagreements with a new President early in the administration — indeed before it has begun — is that it puts both the election and the future in perspective. …
…..So despite my view that Inauguration day is a celebration that shouldn’t be marred by the messy process of political compromise, I accept that for President-elect Obama, Inauguration Day is his first day of governing. Barack Obama will own this inauguration, not Rick Warren. And I still believe in Barack Obama.

Sorry, but what a lipstick wearing pig.

17. BooHooHooMan - 20 December 2008

Fi Times
Hedge funds gain access to $200bn Fed aid

Hedge funds will be allowed to borrow from the Federal Reserve for the first time under a landmark $200bn programme intended to support consumer credit.

The Fed said on Friday it would offer low-cost three-year funding to any US company investing in securitised consumer loans under the Term Asset-backed Securities Loan Facility (TALF). This includes hedge funds, which have never been able to borrow from the US central bank before, although the Fed may not permit hedge funds to use offshore vehicles to conduct the transactions.

Well ARE they or AREN”T They? What Bulslhit.The Fed “may not” permit the use of ‘offshore vehicles”.THE WHOLE THING is wrapped in “offshore vehicles”. Whata fuckin hustle.

The asset-backed securities to be funded under the programme are pools of credit card receivables, automobile loans and student loans.

…credit card receivables, automobile loans and student loans

So the hedgers are unloading the GREATEST Default risk instruments. Brilliant!
Commence Food Rioting! Caviar and Salmon Gourmands FIRST!

18. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 December 2008
19. catnip - 20 December 2008

16. Hillary Rosen just shoveling slop on HuffPo

Someone must have dropped the hammer on her because she was not conciliatory like that on CNN this past week. Not at all.

And no, I’ve never seen inflatable football players here.

You do realize that I don’t have a car right now, right?

20. catnip - 20 December 2008


I am a bit surprised at the response here in the United States – which has been more amused than outraged. An Iraqi journalist disrespected our president in the worst way – and we think it is funny.


21. marisacat - 20 December 2008

Hillary Rosen.. well pay to play or shut up to play works with pundits too.

IIRC Hillary R is gay. So … her mouth sewn shut perhaps.. one arm behind her. They will come for an eyeball next.

And if I read little MIss Caroline’s courageous words… about gay marriage… I have to assume Obster made one of his grand promises. Won’t be coming up in congress Mizz Caroline. You’ll be safe. Stick with me, and Bloomie, we’ll do you right. Or something similar…

I doubt she knows the promises and allusions Ob has made. I so expect to see DADT overturned.. as well as DOMA… on and on.

Yes the Rick Warren bullshit is so nothing. I noticed the thread at Pandagon (a Marcott entry about the HHS rulings from Bush, which she is sure Ob will overturn, it’s still on the FP down about 5) … she calls the Rich Warren stuff “diversion” from what really matters.

It ALL matters. And if the world were fair, pundits and party aligned bloggers would sport big open sores on their skin. On the outside.

22. mattes - 20 December 2008

#18, just in time for the defaulting credit cards spam. they are ahead of schedule. Must get it in quick to blame the republicans.

23. marisacat - 20 December 2008

This is the Marcott referenced above, I still had the site open…

24. BooHooHooMan - 20 December 2008

I wanna return to Josh Marshall and his Fillit d’ Israeli for the kiddies..

he had this up earlier

You’re Kidding, Right?

Oh , NO Josh. No joke.And Remove
the butt end of 2×4 embedded in your Forehead, too, Josh.
You’re starting to look positively Ridic-shillish:::

Over the last few days a number of readers had told me they were picking up hints that the folks fleeced by Bernie Madoff might themselves come calling for a government bailout.I’d been skeptical. But now it seems like that is exactly what may be coming.

{LOL. Catch his “Update”. Oooo Looky Here!
Nya nyanya nya with the rattle binky and bah bah.
Getta load of this toad’s COMPLETELY UNRELATED NOTE
in a TWO Paragraph Post!:}

Late Update: On a related note read Krugman’s column today on Madoff and whether he was all that much different from the rest of folks on Wall Street making gazillions and running the economy and country into the ground.

–Josh Marshall

LOL. A sampling of the self groomed,
self referential Wiki page on Joshua:

“””Hendrik Hertzberg, a senior editor at The New Yorker, compares Marshall to the influential founders of Time magazine. “Marshall is in the line of the great light-bulb-over-the-head editors. He’s like Briton Hadden or Henry Luce. He’s created something new.”[4]””””
“””””In the mid-1990s, Marshall designed websites for law firms and published an online news site about Internet law, which included interviews with prominent scholars such as Lawrence Lessig.[4]””””
“”””””Inspired by political bloggers such as Mickey Kaus and Andrew Sullivan…””””

Future plans

Larger media companies have approached Marshall about buying or investing in his media company. So far, he has decided to maintain his independence.[4]””””

File that IPO Josh. Now’s a good a time as any.
If you get too busy touting other people’s fluff,
you can sub out the rest of your personal touting,
the whispering campaign
of pending Media Buyouts to Jerome Armstrong..
I mean if you’re not too too busy. Or BROKE.

25. marisacat - 20 December 2008

This Week: Biden. Roundtable with Donna Brazile, Sam Donaldson, Cokie Roberts and George Will.

Fox News Sunday: Cheney.

Meet the Press: Condoleezza Rice. Roundtable with Erin Burnett, Carol Marin, Andrea Mitchell and Michele Norris.

Late Edition: Reps. Frank, Cantor, former Clinton economic adviser Tyson, Carly Fiorina.

Face the Nation: Kerry Kennedy, Reps. Reynolds, Ackerman, King, and NYC Dept. of Education Chancellor Joel Klein

26. marisacat - 20 December 2008

“””Hendrik Hertzberg, a senior editor at The New Yorker, compares Marshall to the influential founders of Time magazine. “Marshall is in the line of the great light-bulb-over-the-head editors. He’s like Briton Hadden or Henry Luce. He’s created something new.”[4]“”””

LOL Two Zionists perhaps.. nothing more. Years ago HH was interesting on voting issues, laws and history. On the Electoral College, etc… But as he has become nothing but a party mouthpiece of the rankest sort… ugh.

Again, the New Yorker is the Sears Roebuck of this era. IMPOSSIBLE to think that they opposed the Vietnam war across nearly two decades. Published remarkable three part profiles… John McPhee alone.

Now they fall for utter shit, Dem party shit, Israel shit, war shit. Remnick is a fucking child. Government hacks and party hacks and UWS hacks and frankly Jewish hacks of the most mediocre sort.


27. BooHooHooMan - 20 December 2008

Rosen…CNN … inflatable football players, no car…

LOL. Well catnip, my Canadian Hopefully Not Soon to be
Snoe-Shoe-ing on Terrorist Plywood Friend,…

I hope you get your wheels soon…Interesting about Rosen on CNN didn’t catch it tho.

As for sports and fandom, though I ‘played some’ but not said with the typical delusions of most amature athletes in quietly alluding to a career just out of their grasp for lack of speed agilility talent and mass, LOL, Truth is, other than lack of speed agilility talent and mass, I could been somebody.

Another truth is , is no inflatables- not out in the yard, on the deck or in the house….And tho I work the boorish man thing to death, I completely lost interest in Pro Sports, Just lost interest in the computer graphication and the Vegasy halftime shows. U.S. college football once in a while, college basketball in the NCAA tourney a bit…..Life got so very much more interesting after my daughter was born. LOL. Still is.

28. BooHooHooMan - 20 December 2008

I mean I can’t write for shit.
But GMAFB. Who writes like this?
With the shit bootstrapped into the MSM.??

Pin the Tail on Josh Marshall, again.
Re Jews with Portfolio lining up for bailout money.
{ but, but, but….}

But now it seems like that is exactly what may be…

“It seems like it is exactly what may be”

Translation: “I am Pulling this, now, very carefully out of MY ASS.”

29. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 December 2008
30. mattes - 20 December 2008

Madoff’s Ponzi Scheme Could Cost IRS $17 Billion In Lost Tax Revenue

NEW YORK — Even Uncle Sam may get burned by Bernard Madoff.

Investors who lost their fortunes in Madoff’s alleged Ponzi scheme will end up paying far less in taxes and may even be eligible for refunds, according to accounting experts.

In addition, there are concerns that SIPC does not have enough money to pay out claims. It currently has $1.6 billion to make payouts, though the agency can tap a $1 billion line of credit and a $1 billion injection from the Treasury Department to get more money.

That’s why some investors are considering the option of reporting “theft losses” under the IRS rules. Taxpayers who are defrauded by investment advisers or brokers can claim a deduction, as well as offset tax liabilities from the past.

Under the rules, an investor who lost $20 million with Madoff and whose adjusted gross income was $10 million can claim a theft loss of about $19 million.

To calculate the theft loss, investors must reduce the amount of the loss by 10 percent of their adjusted gross income plus $100, according to Robert Willens, an expert on tax and accounting issues for Wall Street clients.

That theft loss would wipe out the $3.5 million in taxes that would otherwise be payable on the $10 million in income. The losses can be carried back for three years or carried forward for 20 years.

If the losses wipe out current, past or future taxes, the end result is the same: The government loses money.


31. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008


Cheesecake for that!

32. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

t ALL matters. And if the world were fair, pundits and party aligned bloggers would sport big open sores on their skin. On the outside.

In a way to two, they do.

33. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

Drat, retry:

It ALL matters. And if the world were fair, pundits and party aligned bloggers would sport big open sores on their skin. On the outside.

In a way or two, they do.

34. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

Thanks for spiritual guidance to Madman and bayprairie under the gorgeous berries, in case anyone missed it in the HairClub flurries.

(I started a dissertation on all that, BTW, and hereby threaten to publish it soon.)

35. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

melvin is pleased with the science picks. So that’s something.

Thank Jesus!

36. mattes - 20 December 2008

Include in your food plan:

* rosemary and basil for their anti-inflammatory power
* cumin and sage for their dementia-fighting power
* cayenne and cinnamon for their obesity-fighting power
* coriander and cinnamon for their sugar regulating powers
* lemon grass, nutmeg, bay leaves and saffron for their calming effects on your mood
* turmeric for its cancer fighting power
* oregano for its fungus-beating power
* garlic, mustard seed and chicory for their heart-pumping power
* basil and thyme for their skin-saving power
* turmeric, basil, cinnamon, thyme, saffron, and ginger for their immune-boosting power
* coriander, rosemary, cayenne, allspice and black pepper for their depression-busting power


37. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

Confession: When this dormouse post went up I satisfied my promiscuous curosity easily – as usual, and PS thank you Wiki! I owe ya one or two or a thousand! Barring historical error, those frickin’ Romans use to eat the things with nuts and honey for dessert.

Hope I’m far enough downthread to mention such a thing without gasps of empathy for the hibernating critter.

38. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

Skank-whore curiosity in moderation?

39. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

I am so mod, I wear fishnets.

40. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

Sorry, cranky.

One of the reasons I like this blog so much is all the many voices free from dogmatic party prop. Not to mentionagida.

41. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

Damn you Madman, for introducing me to Candy Slice, my new heroine.

42. Intermittent Bystander - 20 December 2008

OK, one more.

Junkie whore was the runner-up to evil mind-fucker in a contest of personal insults to savvy females of my acquaintance, circa 1980s.

Still waiting on all that change. . . .

Oh woe is me! I’m not 20 or 30 anymore! And I sport no progeny!

Surely I is still dead and worthlesss to sew-sci-et-tee!

43. Heather-Rose Ryan - 20 December 2008

7 – Mdman quotes: “We have to ask ourselves, why American service men and women and CIA operatives delight in torturing people about whom they know nothing?”

Because it’s easier than torturing people you have something in common with. Duh.

36 from the article linked to – “franks ‘n’ blanks” – What the hell is that? Never heard of it.

As for eating healthy food: tonight, because we were having a special holiday thing, I made Julia Child’s recipe for stuffed mushrooms (a dish which involves shocking amounts of butter and heavy cream, with some parsley added for color and texture and perhaps a tad bit of vitamin content) and we ate them with a lovely and reasonably priced California sparkling wine.


I may die young, but I’ll die happy.

Julia was a goddess.

44. Heather-Rose Ryan - 20 December 2008

Adorable dormouse, by the way.

45. marisacat - 20 December 2008


Very sorry! two of yours in Moderation… the dormouse menu (Romans) and the post it ws in Moderation…

Very sorry fro the delay… 😳

46. catnip - 20 December 2008


Among other things, the holidays are a time of national dysnutrition: the disease of excess.

So what? Bring on the shortbread!

And WTF is with “dysnutrition”. Holy crap. Back in the old days, we called it “malnutrition” – freak. Buy a dictionary.

47. catnip - 20 December 2008

Life got so very much more interesting after my daughter was born. LOL. Still is.

27. That mine became “interesting” is an understatement. Or a “dys”statement or whatever the kids are calling it these days.

As for pro sports, I still scare the cats when I cheer during the NBA finals if there’s a team playing that I have some interest in. I used to be a big Celtics fan back in the days of Larry Bird and Kevin McHale.

48. catnip - 20 December 2008

And now that everybody and their dog is making the claim that their food/supplement/dietary/combo item is an “immune booster”, I have to be even more careful about what I ingest, having lupus, something that boosts my immune system only means that my system attacks even more healthy cells than usual.

Things were so simple as a child when I enjoyed occasional treats of dirt and pieces of brown paper bags. (No. I’m not kidding.) That might be why I have a wee problem with my digestive system these days. Although they could have been legitimate sources of fibre too so you just never know. 🙂

Whatever – cheesecake!

49. catnip - 20 December 2008

I’ll bet some of you out there read my late nite posts and think, “there she goes – hitting the sauce again”. Well no, actually. I haven’t had any alcohol for 23 years now. This is just me – on late nite vibes. Any questions?

50. Heather-Rose Ryan - 20 December 2008

LOL, I’ll join with you on that, catnip. We can be the Shortbread Party – “Shortbread on the Table and Strong Tea in Every Pot”

51. BooHooHooMan - 20 December 2008

I call this: Plundering the Coalition of the Unwilling.

So “we’re shocked” but are “beginning to recognize” the extent of market manipulation and complicity of Officials and Governmental agencies THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT legitimately to , or for, for ‘The People”…

So why is it such a big leap to consider the same thing a bit more

That what was politically unsellable, and fiscally precluded:
the desire to – “Take Iran and Pakistan OUT”-
could be furthered, funded, and brought to fruition by this “Economic” Chaos.

In other words, what “The Government of the People” {Ha!} couldn’t quite hand over and do courtesy of the ,U.S. Government Brand…. would necessarily need to be done by other means. Afterall, aside from the political distaste for it in the US,… tax revenue Was Already committed for other looting schemes, the War in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the domestic graft here….

So Why not simply throw private sector Market doors WIDE open ,
The Cops on the SEC Beat had long been on the payroll.

Even if you go for Josh Marshall’s Bullshit in the blogosphere,
and other bullshit apologists in the MSM, and take their suggestion to set Madoff the Poster Boy aside, you can’t tell me under such circumstances – hey, lets call it what it is- Global War and the need to finance it- that the IDF and Mossad organs we’re not In on this unprecedented Extration of U.S. and every other Nations Household Assets parked in American Markets.

I have no doubt that the Israeli IDF and Mossad Ops moved right in along the rush of your average 10 ,50, coupla Hundred Billion Dollar connivers, be they tipped off Jewish tithers, Cheneyites, Trustfundarians of every (more similar than not ) stripe:: from the Kennedys, to the Scaiffes, Romneys, DeVoss’ Amway Blackwater Fascists and back again..

But what about regular people, the Coalition of the Unwilling?

TRILLIONS of Dollars of The “Unwilling to fund EVERY ISRAELI WAR” PEOPLE”S money has been “DISAPPEARED” without explanation.

NOT just US citizens, either, which if it were the case would hold some poetic justice.
No, this intentional chaos and lawlessness has looted demoralized and, by design – diminished people and Governments everywhere.

Straight Up:

Israel and its wholly enmeshed Jewish NeanderthalCon Establishment in the US, used their retainers in Both Parties to accomplish what eluded them politically, and was precluded practically, given US governmental looting ALREADY in action:

They looted the Coalition of the Unwilling in their homes –
They looted the Coalition of the Unwilling in their pension funds and their small businesses as effectively as if they had rolled into towns with tanks dragging off war materiel. What the people would not grant They Plundered from the Coalition of the Unwilling.

And While many bargain for more, the Bourgeois Right Wing Suck Up demi Intellectuals are perhaps the cheapest of whores, many at any given time just a cocktail party and grocery tab’s bill away from utter endorsement.

It is well cited, the strategic position of Israeli IDF and Mossad connected companies,for example Converse Infosys, in Communications and Telcom Switching vendors..FFS, They were PRIME Contractors on Clinton and Bush White House Communications equiptment, not to mention the DOD, brokerage houses and Tel Coms.. And Billy Boy was surprised his blowjob leaked when he was ready to tell BeBe Netanyahu to chill just a teensy weensie bit..

This latest *”Financial”* scam is yet another course in the long list of M&A’s, IPO Announcements, Delays in order Filling, Market Making, that has been going on for years with always some paranoid decendent of a Jackboot’s victim sitting on the wire, ready to purge the wrong ghosts….And by labeling it strictly as “Financial”, people will miss the maniacal Israeli War havoc brewing.

No, I think we are indeed in Global Depression like the 30’s with the insistant rise of a Victim Mentality Aggressor State that, through stealth and overt means alike, has garnered all of the necessary resources to unleash its own paranoid campaign on its “threatening” neighbors..In other words, according to them, everyone.

52. catnip - 20 December 2008

CNN crawl headline: Madoff confined to his $7 million Manhattan apartment

Quick! Someone call the UN. The poor man’s human rights are obviously being violated!

53. marisacat - 20 December 2008

Think I read at some point Madoff has the entire 12th fl of an UES building. The biggest scandal SHOULD be, but is not, that his several family members in key positions in the firm are free as flies. 🙄 Yes, they so are going to go straight all their lives. hmm mmm.. I think only the Feds bought that his sons are such manger innocents.

54. Heather-Rose Ryan - 20 December 2008

Of course he has a $7 million Manhattan apartment. How much do the homes of the bank bailout bigwigs run? And now we have to scurry around paying taxes for a thousand years to save their assets.

My sense is that the Madoff episode is a diversion from the real problem, which is that our current economic system is going down the toilet thanks to colossal mismanagement, and now it can be blamed on “da Jews”. A time-honored tactic.

55. Heather-Rose Ryan - 20 December 2008

The upside of the Madoff thing will be if it turns out that he targeted real estate developers in NYC (which would be natural because of the money flow) and now some of them will fold and pull down the values to something approaching normal.

We can but hope.

56. catnip - 20 December 2008

Trump thinks his sons are guilty.

CNN: So you also think it’s impossible that he acted alone.

Trump: I don’t know how you could act alone. They had three floors of a major office building. How could one man be manipulating that much money without all of the people knowing — without at least a large number of the people knowing about it? So I would certainly think that his sons are guilty.

57. marisacat - 20 December 2008

The best thing for all the named names, from Madoff to Citibank to AGI to Lehman, Bear Sterns …and on and on and on and on would be to see that the system, from core to tentacles, is corrrupt.

58. catnip - 20 December 2008

57. TRILLIONS of Dollars of The “Unwilling to fund EVERY ISRAELI WAR” PEOPLE”S money has been “DISAPPEARED” without explanation.

Oh, it’s just too complicated to figure out where all that money went so don’t worry your pretty little head over it. It’s just “gone”.

59. marisacat - 20 December 2008

LOL Looking forward to more fisticuffs at Mar-a-Lago as the sheared Madoff sheep run into his shills and feeders. Some of the stories have been hilarious.

60. Heather-Rose Ryan - 21 December 2008

Trump’s right.

58 – No, I don’t go along with the money-siphoning political conspiracy. It’s not about politics – it’s about making lots of money. Ask Trump.

61. Heather-Rose Ryan - 21 December 2008

57 – Well, what I would like is if someone in these scandals admitted that what they did was wrong and asked how they could help solve the problem caused by their misdeeds.

That would be the honorable thing.

I’m not holding my breath.

62. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

LOL Bernie’s at home all right.
Hardly the Social Register,
but The New York Social Diary has that motherfucker under surveillance 24/7

You can almost see the crosshairs in the pic they dished

Way too funny.
He’s gonna have his ass taken OUT by some sniper firing
older couple, I dunno, say, Shmuel and Nada Blatstein.

The Blatsteins-
if the Goldmans, Dershowitzes, and Spielbergs don’t get their first- could make their way down the fire escape,
and head for the Avenue.. …
to scalp their seats at The Met..

63. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

Since when is it Society Gossip:

Bernie’s in the bathroom.Alone.
The Security Detail is at Lunch.

64. marisacat - 21 December 2008

The NY Social Diary is a hoot.. many tidbits.. thanks. If I were Bernie I’d draw the drapes. And get the front door to my floor armored. But… that’s just me… Love that the ground floor biz wouldn’t let him use their access.

He asked someone in the William Wayne shop (www.william-wayne.com) in the ground floor of his building if he could use their access to the building’s elevators so that he could avoid the press and paparazzi waiting to ambush him. His request was refused.

My guess is Bernie the scoundrel went way way way too far. Too many Jewish social orgs lost money… But then I am still gunning for Trump — for nto spending a measly 30K to have the art deco bas relief from the old Bonwit’s removed by hand.

Gunning iwth my pea shooter that is.. 😆

If Bernie were a drug dealer he’d be sitting in jail and his properties and whatever else would have been seized immediately by the Feds.

65. marisacat - 21 December 2008

This must have some people gritting their teeth… from Clustertock:

Sixteen years ago the Securities and Exchange Commission cracked down on what was then one of largest ever sales of unregistered securities. Investors handed $440 million to two Florida accountants who promised unbelievable annual returns of 13.5% to 20%. Authorities figured it was just a huge scam, and prepared themselves for a major catastrophe.

Shockingly, however, the money was actually there. Authorities shut down the unregistered securities business despite the money and the profits seeming to be in place because it was operating illegally. […]

“They took in nearly a half a billion dollars in customer money totally outside the system that we can monitor and regulate,” the SEC’s New York regional director said at the time. “That’s pretty frightening.”

How did the two investors deliver the promised returns? They had help from a powerful New York figure. You see, at the center of the scam was a mysterious money manager who authorities declined to name because they never charged him with wrong-doing. He claimed he had no idea that the two accountants, Frank J. Avellino and Michael S. Bienes of Fort Lauderdale, were raising money illegally.

That man was Bernie Madoff.

In 1992, the Wall Street Journal revealed the indentity of Madoff in an article that is now stunning in light of revelations that Madoff had long been running a giant Ponzi scheme. It’s simply amazing how much of what now seems obviously a “red flag” about Madoff’s operation was known for decades. ….snip….

Better get the door armored.

66. marisacat - 21 December 2008

From the same link as above:

The role of Ira Lee Sorkin.

The two 56-year-old accountants were represented by Ira Lee Sorkin. The same lawyer, a former prosecutor turned defense attorney, is now representing Madoff. Sorkin is a well-known white collar crime and securities defense attorney. This doesn’t imply any wrong doing but it’s still an amazing coincidence.

better get the door armored…


Here is a lauhg… I keyed in (I thought) ”clusterstock.com”, hit return to bring it up, without looking and went off to the kitchen to make a chicken sandwich … around midnight…then trailed back with my sandwich… and what was all over the screen but exposed pudenda. I had keyed in “clusterfuck.com”…


67. catnip - 21 December 2008

Welcome to tonite’s installment of Spot the Contradiction:

It’s not about politics – it’s about making lots of money.

68. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

…Better get the door armored.-mcat

the Door, the Floor ,and Roof Armored, too…LOL

not a peep on the web who owns the building,
condo’d it, re fi’d ,stir fried ,whatev’d it ..still looking…

No, the New York Social Diary didn’t publicize
Lexington Avenue.
Top Floor.


The Social Diary of course didn’t Publish THAT,LOL,

NO! – only the hyperlinked name (true) of the
Two Location trendy Boutique in the building,
William-Wayne & Co., with a
combo Google Earth and search toolbar accompanying the Boutique sponsored webad (okay, makin it up now) —
to it’s new line of Rifles, Ammo, and camouflage for some,
While suggesting Duct tape, Cudgels and Collectable
Holiday Body Bags- Bernie Baggies- that might work well for others…

Oh just LMAO,now…..

They’re gonna have to do SOMETHING to recover the money

And We at least need to get some diversionary circus out of it while we continue to slaughter wedding parties, no?

So Maybe Spielberg will remake Driving Miss Daisy ,
the contemporary plotline being an elderly but Web enabled Jewess from Down South directs her Negro Chauffeur on a drive up to Manhattan to “Whack that Fucker Bernie Madoff.”

Kinda like Driving Miss Daisy meets
Weekend at Bernies with a little Scent of A Woman thrown in::

So they go up to the City,
Except that upon their arrival in New York they get LOST!
And they run into -OMI GAWD-the Governor! Who is BLIND!
A David Patterson/Al Pacino like character in Scent of A Woman who

Then Ted Kennedy and Caroline can jump in.
Kinda Like the Pol yuck-it-up cameos now anyways..And And And..

They get to where they’re going while we are content to have been entertained, grateful even, and willing to pay…
..for having been taken along for the reality fleeing ride…

69. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

I keyed in (I thought)
………………………………..Oh sure, sure- happens all the time, the
Distracted By The Chicken Sandwich thing sure sure..
….perfectly understandable. LOL.

70. marisacat - 21 December 2008

Looking over Counterpunch is .. entertaining. I mean, why weep. NOW they let loose, of course they have cabinet choices to moan over… but Cpunch carried very little critical exposition of our soon to be Pretzeldent… a little in their subscription section but next to nothing on the free pages. But clean up now boyos.

Yes, why weep for the damned country.

Slam-Duncan Hope

Corporatizing the Kids


“In Chicago … we’ve gotten a foretaste of the new breed of foundation-hatched black communitarian voices: one of them (Barack Obama), a smooth Harvard lawyer with impeccable credentials and vacuous-to-repressive neoliberal politics, has won a state senate seat on a base mainly in the liberal foundation and development worlds. His fundamentally bootstrap line was softened by a patina of the rhetoric of authentic community, (and) …. small-scale solutions to social problems….”

–Adolph Reed Jr. , 1996

“vacuous to repressive neoliberal politics” hits it right on the head. Wrapped in that fucked and dripping pulpiteering. Bet his bible is damp. All the time. My guess would be a Vaseline overlay.


Farther down there is another lament (quite a few posts on our Hawai’ian Pretzedent). Hard to tell, if it is rhetorical device or if the author was indeed a believer. I sense some almost damp cheeks (up on teh face, those) so perhaps he did believe. 6 weeks, he’s not a believer. Oh wellllllllllllllllllllll.

I am delighted to Arne Duncan taking a ton of hits (not that it matters) but it is, possibly, the most cynical of Obama’s picks. So many are bad tho it is like a cake baked with rats…

A real shit, Duncan is.

71. marisacat - 21 December 2008

diversionary circus

I am here with my otter snouts. I have read they tossed those at the Roman circuses…

72. marisacat - 21 December 2008

Very Sorry! This from mattes in the afternoon (2:23 pm PT), just trailed into Moderation… APOLOGIES: to not throw off the numbers here it is…

What does it mean that Jews define themselves by genetics 60 years after genetics were used against them?”

When I found out I was part jewish, I signed up with some of the yahoo genealogy groups. I was pretty disgusted with what I found there. Quite a caste system. Apparently not all Jews are created equal. Some linages are far more esteemed than others. I quickly left with a bad taste in my mouth.

That’s for that link.

Mr. Burg is up against a brick wall.

Did you see this:

The Internet is simply a means of communication, like the telephone, but that has not prevented attempts to demonize it – the latest being the ludicrous claim that the Internet promotes terrorism.

Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut is trying to pressure YouTube to pull down videos he does not like, and a recent Senate report and a bill pending in Congress also raise the specter of censorship. It is important for online speech to be protected against these assaults.

Mr. Lieberman recently demanded that YouTube take down hundreds of videos produced by Islamist terrorist organizations or their supporters. YouTube reviewed the videos to determine whether they violated its guidelines, which prohibit hate speech and graphic or gratuitous violence. It took down 80 videos, but left others up. Mr. Lieberman said that was “not enough,” and demanded that more come down.

Earlier this month, the Senate homeland security committee, which is led by Mr. Lieberman, issued a report titled “Violent Islamist Extremism, the Internet, and the Homegrown Terrorist Threat.” The report identified the Internet as “one of the primary drivers” of the terrorist threat to the United States.

All of this comes against the backdrop of a troubling Congressional antiterrorism bill that also focuses on the Internet.

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, which passed the House last year by a 404-to-6 vote, would establish a commission to study the terrorist threat and propose legislation. The bill, which the Senate has not acted on, has a finding that the Internet promotes radicalization and terrorism.


73. marisacat - 21 December 2008


LOL… well my nickname for that site IS “clusterstockfuck”…

74. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

Jeebus a wholelotta stuff on clusterstock and no I didn’ t go to the other,LOL….whole lotta stuff on Maddoff there, I’d never been to it tho have seen links here…

Anyways I need clued as to Mr Burg.. otter snouts too – clams?
or thumbs up? thumbs down review of my attempt to mock our buy anything culture.

75. marisacat - 21 December 2008

I get a kick out of Clusterstock…it’s a hoot.

76. marisacat - 21 December 2008


for Burg, see Madman comment #2… think that is what mattes might have been replyting to (again sorry for delayed comment)

77. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

Just getting to this from Krugman on the 19th

We’re talking about a lot of money here. In recent years the finance sector accounted for 8 percent of America’s G.D.P., up from less than 5 percent a generation earlier. If that extra 3 percent was money for nothing — and it probably was — we’re talking about $400 billion a year in waste, fraud and abuse.

But the costs of America’s Ponzi era surely went beyond the direct waste of dollars and cents.

At the crudest level, Wall Street’s ill-gotten gains corrupted and continue to corrupt politics, in a nicely bipartisan way. From Bush administration officials like Christopher Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, who looked the other way as evidence of financial fraud mounted, to Democrats who still haven’t closed the outrageous tax loophole that benefits executives at hedge funds and private equity firms (hello, Senator Schumer),politicians have walked when money talked.

78. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

Just woke up and may retreat to sleep again, but those roamin’ bastards tossing otter snouts are really pissing me off.

(This has been an encore performance of “RIP Nyac, longtime survivor of the Exxon Valdez whooopsie, who died of leukemia 20 years later.”)

79. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

RIP Nyac, I mean.

80. marisacat - 21 December 2008

There is not enough popcorn on earth:

The final mystery relates to Madoff, or Made-Off to use his new nickname. It’s a question that is being asked by thousands of destroyed investors: how could he have done it? How could he live with himself, knowing that his own sons, his closest friends, poor Jewish children, cancer sufferers were among his many victims?

Edward Nersessian is one of those pondering that question. He is a director of the Philoctetes Centre, a Manhattan group that seeks to encourage creativity and imagination in public life. It now faces closure: the foundation that supports it was with Madoff.

Paradoxically, the center organized a round table last year on the future of the stock market. Madoff took part, making a comment that is now on YouTube: “In today’s regulatory environment it’s virtually impossible … for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time.”

Nersessian is a psychoanalyst, and although he has no privileged insight into Madoff, he does ask himself whether his behavior can be likened to the clients he has seen with addiction problems. “They come and they cry and they genuinely feel sorry for what they are doing to their family. Then they leave my office and within 15 minutes are trying to buy the next fix, knowing perfectly well they are taking money that should be feeding their kids.”


Talk about ADDICTION, now the talk is of THIRTY THOUSAND to Afghanistan. Not 20 but 30. Addicted to war and death.

81. marisacat - 21 December 2008

LOL This says his confinement is only at evening and night… 7PM to 9AM

As a result, prosecutors and Madoff’s attorneys agreed that he could remain out of jail but instead would be under home confinement from 7 p.m. to 9 a.m.

82. marisacat - 21 December 2008

Oops no Radio Netherlands says not anymore…

Madoff’s house arrest tightened

Published: Saturday 20 December 2008 07:42 UTC
Last updated: Saturday 20 December 2008 07:42 UTC

The terms of the house arrest imposed on accused US investor Bernard Madoff have been intensified. He must now stay at home 24 hours a day. After his arrest, Mr Madoff was permitted to leave his Manhattan apartment during the day under electronic supervision. But he has now been permanently confined to his home, both to prevent any possibility that he might flee the city and to protect him from any possible acts of revenge by angry investors

83. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

Winter now. Best wishes to all.

84. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

thanks, mcat, I had read madmans link earlier, focused on what he (Burg) had to say, I forgot the guys name…

To his rhetorical “What is a Jewish democratic state?”, I thought to myself the same as a “Christian Democratic” state or ones founded on “Sharia”. Nothing democratic or Just …about Any of them..

I think it needs to be meet with denunciation, disapproval, ridicule and scorn. It needs to go- Religion, The Churches Synagogues Temples and Mosques alike, taking with them their followers in varied states of Official Political and Personal madness.

It needs to happen through Cultural means ( ridicule making laughingstocks of them) as well as Adversarial Economic Action, sorry but I do minimal business with corps, professionals or business establishments of anyone or anykind that is , LOL, “Respectable”. Here’s some Political Remedies, Pie in the Sky now.. :Denial of their tax free status,but OOPs! The Obamalama and the Dems are groveling to empower every Church and Yeshiva scam they can…

85. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

opps double clutched the “e”… meet= met with denunciation…

I’m going to catcha few z’s …….I’m out…

86. diane - 21 December 2008


fuck the rest of it …. acoustic instruments…will always win the soul……give a person filled with unvoiceable dreams …two spoons and they will astound……………………..

hugs to all…..such soul crushing times………

…remember you are killing a man…

said to be spoken by Che Guevara, before his fingers were cut off…………

87. diane - 21 December 2008

…so tiny….that dormouse, first thing that came to my mind was Jane Seymour’s (spelling?) role in East of Eden

something to the effect of: I can make myself so small…you can’t even see me….

the next thing that I pondered was whether you were refering to my “doormouse” remark awhile back…and whether I was the he/she being refered to as tiny…..these are the times though…….that leave one constantly looking over their shoulder…

at any rate, I am in fact a speck…..

88. diane - 21 December 2008

…the manx eyed jane……………

became a doctor in orange county?

89. diane - 21 December 2008

or the manx eyed jane has been near permanently damaged and crushed by something quite unspeakably fearsome?

90. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

Happy solstice, diane! Thanks for the Feliciano – loved the left-hand part in particular. (Psst . . . somehow doubt the dormouse refers to you.)

As for me, ever the winter squirrel, I went looking for Roman otter snout customs and found the chestnuts below (along with lots of seemingly unrelated snout otter clams, which explains BHHM’s question, upthread).

What did the ancient Romans eat? Certainly not pasta…

Craving dolphin meatballs? Can’t find a reliable restaurant for boiled parrot? Have a hankering for jellyfish omelettes, sows’ wombs in brine, sheep’s brain pate, or stuffed mice? Look no further than Around the Roman Table, a unique hybrid cookbook and history lesson. A portrait of Roman society from the vantage point of the dining table, kitchen, and market stalls, Around the Roman Table offers both an account of Roman eating customs and 150 recipes reconstructed for the modern cook.

Faas guides readers through the culinary conquests of Roman invasions–as conquerors pillaged foodstuffs from faraway lands–to the decadence of Imperial Rome and its associated table manners, dining arrangements, spices, seasonings, and cooking techniques. With recipes for such appetizing dishes as chicken galantine with lambs’ brains and fish relish, Around the Roman Table is ideal for food aficionados who wish to understand how the desire for power and conquest was manifested in Roman appetites.

“There are many misconceptions about the food of ancient Rome that Faas sets out to correct. The result is half cookbook, half history book and is entirely fascinating to both chef and antiquarian alike.”–Washington Times

And then lo and behold in the comments, a scene from the Life of Brian:


[clap clap clap]

ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen. The next contest is between… Frank Goliath, the Macedonian baby-crusher, and Boris Mineburg.

BRIAN: Want some…

VOICE: Thank you, fellows.

BRIAN: Larks’ tongues. Wrens’ livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars’ earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get ’em while they’re hot. They’re lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar. Tuscany fried bats.

BRIAN: Larks’ tongues. Otters’ noses. Ocelot spleens.

REG: Got any nuts?

BRIAN: I haven’t got any nuts. Sorry. I’ve got wrens’ livers, badgers’ spleens–

REG: No, no, no.

BRIAN: Otters’ noses?

REG: I don’t want any of that Roman rubbish.

JUDITH: Why don’t you sell proper food?

BRIAN: Proper food?

REG: Yeah, not those rich imperialist tit-bits.

BRIAN: Well, don’t blame me. I didn’t ask to sell this stuff.

REG: All right. Bag of otters’ noses, then.

FRANCIS: Make it two.

REG: Two.

FRANCIS: Thanks, Reg.

BRIAN: Are you the Judean People’s Front?

REG: Fuck off!

BRIAN: What?

REG: Judean People’s Front. We’re the People’s Front of Judea! Judean People’s Front. Cawk.


91. diane - 21 December 2008

step away from the computer…at least momentarily and take in the scent of humankind and decide how you will live the rest of your life…because ..surely….wour legs our for walking on…and if we have no legs…our proufound vocal chords are for giving heart to those within earshot, why are we all speaking to those miles away, when if we spoke to our neighbors, ultimately, one by one, we would reach those miles away, if we were filled with the merciful intent that let life live the life it should…then…go to rest…when it needed to go to rest.

92. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

Who doesn’t speak to their neighbors too?

93. diane - 21 December 2008

I’m forever cripppled by the reality that there were those locked below the decks I was allowed upon….and I willo not be whole until all those who walk amongst me are not living in fear of me….why has that been so very hard to understand alll you harvard and yale graduates who have unquestionably been at that the forefront of everything, certainly since the day I was born…one day I will till you about my daddy and momma……….

94. diane - 21 December 2008

you MOTHER FUCKERS jesus MAY BE A MYTH TO YOU!….but he has become quite real to me…blessed are the merciful…………….there is nothing quite so profound as …mercy……

95. diane - 21 December 2008

jeez……forever doomed ……I look at my words and i realize FUCK …………..likely everyone in the house ducked for cover ………I really don’t know what to say anymore……..truth be told though, I go to sleep praying the ironic story of jesus is true …that jesus struck down the money moneychangers in the name name of something far more profound… why can’t that be true ? I mean reallly…is it impossible?

96. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

I mean reallly…is it impossible?
Dinner for13, and a commemorative Da Vinci?

At today’s prices? 😯

97. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

jeez……forever doomed ……I look at my words and i realize FUCK …………..likely everyone in the house ducked for cover ………


Dinner for13, and a commemorative Da Vinci?

and again!

I went looking for a frickin song about mercy for ya, sweetheart and scratched them one by one as too damn gloomy for the moment! Even Mose Allison sung by Bonnie Raitt just didn’t cut it.

I’m gonna stick with my heathen ways if that’s ok with you (no flies on Jesus but he didn’t invent that love thy neighbor stuff, did he?) and send ya two versions of a sorta Advent/solstice song instead.

River, written and recorded by Joni.
River sung by James, at a Joni tribute.

Hope ya like em!

98. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

I think Bonnie doing Mose has to go out to BooHooHooMan for his Driving Miss Daisy pitch: Everybody’s Cryin Mercy.

99. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 December 2008
100. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

On a roll now . . . just ’cause it’s a purty tune.

Cara Dillon, The Snows They Melt the Soonest.

101. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

99 – Ho ho ho!

So listen, Miss Yvonne, before you go makin out with everyone in the Playhouse, how about forkin over the GIFT!

102. diane - 21 December 2008

is it getting closer?…bring out the marzipan?……….

the long mulling merciful

103. diane - 21 December 2008

have at…..mercy wins………………………………………

104. marisacat - 21 December 2008

“My administration will be absolutely committed to the future of America’s middle-class and working families. They will be front and center every day in our work in the White House. And this Task Force will be one vehicle we will use to ensure that we never forget that commitment. I think it can make a great contribution to our work, and I’m grateful that the Vice President-elect has agreed to chair it,” said President-elect Obama.

· Expanding education and lifelong training opportunities
· Improving work and family balance
· Restoring labor standards, including workplace safety
· Helping to protect middle-class and working-family incomes
· Protecting retirement security

Veepessa Biden… re-annointed by Obster. Middle Class Czar

LOL Things will get worse.

105. mattes - 21 December 2008


jesus struck down the money moneychangers in the name name of something far more profound

And look what happened to him.

JFK started printing US dollars and look what happened to him.

Money rules. Madoff is a marked man, bet he does not make it to trial. Bet that money went somewhere, just like the money rabbit hole in Iraq. And the people that got it are not going to give it back.

Now…Forbes was bitching on MSM that our dollar is going to be worthless, well, they should have thought of that before bailing out the privileged of Wall Street and our two wars of extravagance. Too late.

There’s talk of a new goldbased currency, so the world elite can have…somewhere….to keep their money…safe. I wish them luck.

Forbes and others were salivating at getting social security privatized, holding up the ponzi schemes another decade, but now that is what all these bailouts represents. We are so doomed. I just really don’t see the light. More businesses collapsing, less revenues, less social services. The rich in walled off communities.

Tell me I am wrong.

106. catnip - 21 December 2008

104. If Obamalama really was Jeebus, he’d be helping the poor.

107. marisacat - 21 December 2008

He never mentions the poor. Ever.

108. marisacat - 21 December 2008

Oh I correct myself… in his speech on the oceans receding, he did. Think he alluded that with his ascension not only would the oceans recede but poverty would be cured.

Not sure I can go back and read that Vaseline mixed slobber again.

109. catnip - 21 December 2008

Holy crap! A National Post (righty paper) columnist chose my blog as one of Canada’s top ten lefty blogs.

4) liberal catnip (www.liberalcatnip.blogspot.com). The blogger known as “catnip” writes a fair amount of political commentary on Canada and the U.S. She obviously spends time crafting her left-leaning blog posts, and to her credit, they are often very interesting.

😀 lol

110. mattes - 21 December 2008

Catnip, congrats.

But what is this??

About Me

What? You want to know stuff about me?

111. marisacat - 21 December 2008

hey hey… brava! catnip!

112. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008


But somebody should log in and tell Taube about his Opposite Day typo here: Here’s my list of the Top 10 right-leaning Canadian political bloggers, in no particular order:

113. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

Ha ha, now I’m in moderation at National Post!

114. catnip - 21 December 2008


Heading out into the frozen tundra!

mattes, if you click on that you can read my meager profile.

115. bayprairie - 21 December 2008

#4 with a bullet

gives new meaning to the term “wanted poster”

116. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

Let poor eat caviar: Milan authorities.

MILAN, Italy (AFP) – Poor residents of Milan will receive an unlikely Christmas gift of contraband caviar this year from kindly prosecutors, a newspaper reported on Saturday.

Customs inspectors seized 40 kilogrammes (88 pounds) of beluga caviar last month from two couriers travelling from Warsaw, Corriere della Sera newspaper reported.


“Testing confirmed that the caviar was perfectly edible and we thought of giving a Christmas present to those who cannot offer one to themselves,” Juri Mantegazza, the official who carried out the seizure, told the newspaper.

Charities seemed to grudgingly accept the gift.

“All donations are accepted,” Father Virginio Colmegna of Charity House told the paper. “However, we must remember that the poor are in need of rights and dignity, more so than luxury products.”

117. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

Constant grooming continues on DK of the
“SYFPH, No Ponies” message ..Crickets about Madoff.

I was wandering around some of the old posts and really have to hand it to Kos Jackoffs. They really are an odious twisted lot.

Remember when A lot of the meta was rehashed on BooBooTrib? Now Martin has posts with like 5 comments a piece on ’em. LOL.

Goin back through the digital scrapebook so to speak, Hats off to lucid too in his swan song at dk last year, he brought out every thug in the joint that night….And At the top of the thread working off of BarbinMD? That Danby Dude. I really do think there is a way to expose all of their beloved site’s shit involving campaign money, slam three of them hard actually , but I’m not quit sure how to go about it yet…

118. marisacat - 21 December 2008

hmm Carol Chomsky, wife of Noam died…

119. mattes - 21 December 2008

From NYT, Bush on the economy:

“How,” he wondered aloud, “did we get here?”

Snips from article, whole thing worth reading:

For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security. The housing market was a bright spot: ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.


For Mr. Bush, it was part of his vision of an “ownership society,” in which Americans would rely less on the government for health care, retirement and shelter.
Mr. Bush had to, in his words, “use the mighty muscle of the federal government” to meet his goal. He proposed affordable housing tax incentives. He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meet ambitious new goals for low-income lending.
Concerned that down payments were a barrier, Mr. Bush persuaded Congress to spend up to $200 million a year to help first-time buyers with down payments and closing costs.

A Policy Gone Awry

Darrin West could not believe it. The president of the United States was standing in his living room.

It was June 17, 2002, a day Mr. West recalls as “the highlight of my life.” Mr. Bush, in Atlanta to unveil a plan to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million, was touring Park Place South, a development of starter homes in a neighborhood once marked by blight and crime.

Mr. West had patrolled there as a police officer, and now he was the proud owner of a $130,000 town house, bought with an adjustable-rate mortgage and a $20,000 government loan as his down payment — just the sort of creative public-private financing Mr. Bush was promoting.

“Part of economic security,” Mr. Bush declared that day, “is owning your own home.”

A lot has changed since then. Mr. West, beset by personal problems, left Atlanta. Unable to sell his home for what he owed, he said, he gave it back to the bank last year.
The president also leaned on mortgage brokers and lenders to devise their own innovations.
When states tried to use consumer protection laws to crack down on predatory lending, the comptroller of the currency blocked the effort, asserting that states had no authority over national banks.


Like Minds on Laissez-Faire,

How he wants to be known:

Mr. Bush replied. “I will be known as somebody who saw a problem and put the chips on the table to prevent the economy from collapsing.”

120. marisacat - 21 December 2008

neue post…


……………… 🙄 …………..

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