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Birds perch on snow-covered razor wire at Ponchardier near Sayed Abad village in Afghanistan [Picture: AFP/GETTY]

Up to 30,000 more U.S. troops in Afghanistan by summer

REUTERS
Reuters North American News Service

Dec 20, 2008 11:25 EST

KABUL, Dec 20 (Reuters) – The United States is looking to send 20,000 to 30,000 extra troops to Afghanistan by the beginning of next summer, the chairman of the U.S. joint chiefs of staff said on Saturday.

Washington is already sending some 3,000 extra troops in January and another 2,800 by spring, but officials have previously said the number would be made up to 20,000 in the next 12 to 18 months, once approved by the U.S. administration.

“Some 20 to 30,000 is the window of overall increase from where we are right now. I don’t have an exact number,” Admiral Mike Mullen told reporters.

“We’ve agreed on the requirement and so it’s really clear to me we’re going to fill that requirement so it’s not a matter of if, but when,” he said. “We’re looking to get them here in the spring, but certainly by the beginning of summer at the latest.”

U.S. Army General David McKiernan has asked for the extra troops to halt a growing Taliban insurgency particularly in the east and south of Afghanistan.

President-elect Barack Obama has pledged a renewed focus on Afghanistan, where U.S.-led forces toppled the Taliban government in late 2001 after the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.

The United States now has some 31,000 troops in Afghanistan, some of them operating independently and some operating as part of a 51,000-strong NATO-led security assistance force. (Editing by Ralph Boulton)

Source: Reuters North American News Service

It’s not all quiet on any front…

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1. mattes - 21 December 2008

The best and the brightest….

But the costs of America’s Ponzi era surely went beyond the direct waste of dollars and cents.

At the crudest level, Wall Street’s ill-gotten gains corrupted and continue to corrupt politics, in a nicely bipartisan way. From Bush administration officials like Christopher Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, who looked the other way as evidence of financial fraud mounted, to Democrats who still haven’t closed the outrageous tax loophole that benefits executives at hedge funds and private equity firms (hello, Senator Schumer), politicians have walked when money talked.

Meanwhile, how much has our nation’s future been damaged by the magnetic pull of quick personal wealth, which for years has drawn many of our best and brightest young people into investment banking, at the expense of science, public service and just about everything else?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/opinion/19krugman.html?em

2. mattes - 21 December 2008

Anyone for balance of power?

Iran: Russia begins delivering missiles capable of repelling Israeli air strike

Russia has begun delivering S-300 air defense systems to Iran which could help repel any Israeli and U.S. air strikes on its nuclear sites, the official IRNA news agency reported on Sunday.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1048586.html

3. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

I wonder how many of those Democratic Operatives who thought it was politically slick of Obama to “Put the focus on Afghanistan”,

How many now that dying time draws near-
How many are willing to send THEIR kids there?
And no, not as a Commissioned LAWYER.

4. mattes - 21 December 2008

Afghanistan is one of the largest producers of opium. And there is a worldwide shortage for medical purposes. Why not legalize the production and get it into medical distribution and let the economy grow?

Opening up the country will enable it to progress…not bombing the shit out of it for another century.

5. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2008

Afghanistan Why not legalize the production and get it into medical distribution and let the economy grow$$$$$

Same as always in War. Military Suppliers, Black Market Investors.
Military Men, Financiers and Pols are getting
BoxKarzaGOLD RICH
………………………………………………………………………………….

re: Mcat’s lede 30,000 more US troops to Afhanistan
and mattes post, Russia has begun delivering S-300 air defense systems to Iran are definitely, definitely connected..

Maybe the propeller heads apologizing for Obama and His wholesale retention of Bush’s disastrous Military Brass will find out that Russian Rockets in Iran can be pointed in different directions…They won’t be labeled:

“Ready. Aim Toward Tel Aviv Only. Fire.”

Our Warmongering fools and their leveraged slave labor ventures on the Sub-continent WANT to encroach on Iranian borders in THE EAST like they HAVE been doing, like they’ve done to every country next in line on the War du Jour Path going back to Cambodia and Laos and back further to, well, the Whole Massacred- Into- Existence Country that was plundered from Native Americans ..

The War in Afghanistan , mere Prelude to Pakistan and yes, Iran.
We’re going to use the Israelis and they us as an excuse…People are actually immune to it now. Numb.

Those bombings in Mumbai– very murky. Seems like work that could be arranged over a long weekend off by our spooks in Langely.. A bit of prep work and a primer coat, that’s all.
The Scandal Go Round —rather than provoking random shootings here – Incredibly – will serve as cover for hapless missile fire THERE.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 December 2008
7. Intermittent Bystander - 21 December 2008

Nice one, Madman.

8. NYCO - 21 December 2008

which for years has drawn many of our best and brightest young people into investment banking

I’d respectfully submit that these are not exactly our “best and brightest.”

Our best and brightest are still hiding out in engineering, science, math, and the arts.

9. marisacat - 21 December 2008

the growers of marijuana in CA don’t want it legalised. Screws with their profits. There si def one or two here or there, suppliers of sanctioned Medical MJ… but not the majority. Counties make it too comfortable for the growers to do moderate amts of business, sub rosa, undisturbed, mostly.

The Feds wait to hear of some grow operation in a rented suburban house… tracking electrical use.. or a grower who clears a space in some forgottne corner fo a National Park, sometimes they track that thru hacked water usage. Fly over, determine the camoflage cover and make a bust.

But the counties basically ask that it not be too big, you are low key, create no problems… and obviously there is some kick back but i never have heard of an amount.

10. mattes - 21 December 2008

# 8 nyco…couldn’t agree with you more.

Well……no shopping to day, got groceries and a ton of movies, it’s still snowing. I had forgotten how much I love snow, it’s beautiful in a forest of pine and spruce. Good thing I can’t afford a new car and still have my guzzler jeep cherokee. Had it when I was in the book business.

There are more people walking on foot than in cars today…

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 December 2008

thanks IB.

12. marisacat - 21 December 2008

A snip from Madman’s post, lined at Comment #6….

To see the days get shorter and darker and colder, to fear that the light and the warmth wouldn’t come back … what else to do but build a set of rituals around that longest, darkest night? If you can remember the ritual, repeat it when the blackness comes again, you can help the return of the light.

There is a sort of sense to those beliefs, to project some intelligence onto the birds and streams and rocks and sun, those bigger, stranger things that seem to be capricious and yet predictable … sort of like people.

13. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 December 2008

“Holy Fucking Shit I Was Just In A Plane Crash!”

In another first for Twitter, passenger Mike Wilson tweeted his miraculous escape. Read from the bottom up. And then buy this man (and everyone else on the plane) a vodka tonic!

14. marisacat - 21 December 2008

oh it’s a chocolate bon bon for the anti Sullys… of which of course I am one. LOL… It IS Armando, but once in 5 years he could get a thing right. He just links to the generic Sully, this is the correct link for the AS post he dissects. Of course it is Sully papering over the Warren issues. He must have 40 posts by now on various Warren/invocation/ObamaluvsWarren issues.

Plus Armando remembered that Sully supported Iraq invasion, which I knew but I had forgotten Sully called those who opposed the war “fifth columnists”. What a fucker. AND I had forgotten that Sully sucked up to The Bell Curve author, who is a Cornerite denizen. SUCH SHITS… all in a pile! 😯

Over and over the internet writers and bloggers, Blahgers, etc., who found themselves elevated ALL supported or were next to mute on the Iraq invasion. Could not be clearer.

😈

15. catnip - 21 December 2008

14. Good post by Armando.

Much more important, with Obama’s election, power has shifted. Gay people helped win this election. We will be part of this administration in ways that we would never be under a McCain or a Bush.
– Sully

Yeah. That’s what the fundie evangelicals thought too before Bush used them and threw them under the bus. What makes him think that Obama will be (or is) any different considering his actions towards the gay community thus far?

16. catnip - 21 December 2008

13. I like the part about the plane deciding to go 4 wheel driving. lol

17. bayprairie - 21 December 2008

christianity says life has a beginning and an end. its linear. The older ways viewed life as circular. an endless repetition of death and rebirth. this week xtians celebrate an event which happened 2000 years ago but it was overlaid onto something the early xtian church coulcdn’t stamp out so they tried to coopt it, the celebration of the rebirth of the sun.

and thats something worth celebrating.

18. catnip - 21 December 2008
19. bayprairie - 21 December 2008

18

the whacks always hate it when the light inadvertently reveals the strings.

takes all the phunn out of the make-believe.

20. catnip - 21 December 2008

19. No doubt.

Stay tuned tomorrow when the next post on the Yglesias blog will be:

This is Matthew’s mother. Matt’s feeling under the weather today and can’t come out to play. Check back tomorrow to see if he’s feeling better. Oh, and would someone please pick up his homework for him? Thanks.

21. bayprairie - 21 December 2008

got your solstice rat cheer

Louis Armstrong – That Lucky Old Sun

22. bayprairie - 21 December 2008

20

heehee!!!!

::insert some silly smiley face here:::

23. bayprairie - 21 December 2008

21

thats what i call church!

coming soon to a sunrise near you!

24. lucid - 21 December 2008

That is a beautiful photo… I’ll catch up in the AM… but the politics of HIV forever confound me… Does anyone realize they’re committing genocide? I ask myself this question about my brother and his wife every day.

What, at this point, can I do? Stand on a garbage can and scream to everybody, ‘THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HIV’. We’ve already slaughtered 2-3 generations of gay men in the west – what we need to up and kill the fucking third world too? I mean really?

I know many of you out there disagree with me, but I don’t take pharmaceutical genocide lightly. And given that there is no proof of a virus, and boatloads of proof that it is a multi-factoral disease born of poverty, drug addiction, malnutrition, you name it… Shouldn’t those billions go to offset the decimation of rural life by neo-liberal economic policies? Shouldn’t we try to help people have clean water and good food, instead of ramming deadly chemo therapy drugs down their throats?

Despite the UN’s & WHO’s best efforts to claim a global pandemic, there is a population explosion everywhere and all of their models have failed in every sense of the word failure.

Fucking wake up and stop killing people – stop terrorizing them with this idea of HIV. Just fucking STOP! It pisses me off more than the wars, because this outrage is done in the name of ‘humanitarianism’.

25. bayprairie - 21 December 2008

the circular flip-side to 21

Devil Got My Woman

Skip James

26. marisacat - 22 December 2008

18… thanks for that… lotta push back in the thread. at least!

27. marisacat - 22 December 2008

HA! Rees-Mogg has a column in the UK Times on what will likely be two generations of law suits in the Madoff MessOff. Whew.

[C]an the victims of the fraud sue the SEC for negligence as a regulator?

That, as people say, is a good question. Unfortunately, it is one which may not be answered in less than a generation’s litigation. I would not be surprised if the grandchildren of Madoff’s investors were still suing the grandchildren of hedge fund managers in 50 years’ time. A long-term Ponzi fraud can become a nightmare for investors, if perhaps a bonanza for New York lawyers.

The exposure of fraud is a natural consequence of a credit crunch. People who have overspent during the preceding boom find that they are heavily in debt, and their creditors are pressing them. In the case of Mr Madoff, some of his investors wanted their money back. He could not provide it. That caused the collapse of his fraud. We should expect there to be more frauds exposed in the coming months.

28. catnip - 22 December 2008

26. I like this comment:

# Ben Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:31 am

There aren’t enough Southerners in these comments.

🙂

29. catnip - 22 December 2008
30. catnip - 22 December 2008

In a related story:

Some of Washington’s best-known Democratic operatives — including Jenny Backus, Jennifer Palmieri and Howard Wolfson — are being considered for top communications roles that would make them the public faces of the Obama administration outside the White House, Democratic officials said.

Although no final decisions have been made, Backus may be President-elect Barack Obama’s top spokesperson on health issues, Palmieri is in the early stages of consideration for a role at the Pentagon, and Wolfson is being considered — along with Doug Hattaway — for the delicate podium job at the State Department.

31. catnip - 22 December 2008

Apparently, “Teddy Partridge” over at FDL can’t read very well since he states that this is a done deal (contrary to the Politico story above that he links to) but these appts are becoming more hilarious every day: Lieberman Campaign Manager to be DHS Spokesbot

Joe Lieberman’s 2006 primary campaign manager, Sean Smith, who accused Ned Lamont of hacking their website the day of the Connecticut primary in 2006, has been selected to be the new Administration’s spokesperson at the Department of Homeland Security.

32. catnip - 22 December 2008

Topping the charts at dkos. It’s not Obama I’m mad at; it’s way too many of you. Passionate, but I wonder why there’s a disconnect there – a free pass for Obama who holds the same views and worse, is in a position to affect real change for the community but allows his religion to get in the way.

33. catnip - 22 December 2008

Replace “Rick Warren” with “Louis Farrakhan”, (6+ / 0-)

then ask yourself if you’d be saying the same things about “getting people to the table”, “not shutting people out”, “everyone is a resource”, etc. More importantly, would Obama be saying the same things?

During the primary debates, Obama “denounced and rejected” Farrakhan for his anti-semitic comments. I don’t see Obama inviting Farrakhan “to the table”. Obama “shut him out”, so I guess Farrakhan is not a “resource”.

Why hasn’t Obama “denounced and rejected” Warren’s anti-gay comments? Is it simply because “we’re not going to agree on every issue”? Funny, I don’t recall Obama saying “we’re not going to agree on every issue” when it came to Farrakhan.

The message is clear: anti-semitism is unacceptable, but anti-gay bigotry…not so much. Think about it: for his anti-semitic remarks, Farrakhan was “denounced and rejected” by Obama. But for his anti-gay remarks, Warren was neither denounced nor rejected. Hell, he was actually invited to give the invocation at Obama’s inauguration, by Obama himself!

by thaelmann on Sun Dec 21, 2008 at 11:54:23 PM PST

34. catnip - 22 December 2008

I’ve never seen this Warren quote before:

“Just because I like pizza it doesn’t mean I should marry it. Biologically, I am predisposed to enjoy the immaculate melding of mozzarella cheese, red sauce and thick crust baked to tasty perfection.

“But that doesn’t mean I should enter into a lifelong commitment with Sicilian or plain, nor bed it down, nor bring children into the world and have them have to explain to their classmates why their mom’s crust is not a crisp as it once was.

“Does any child deserve to have their friends tossing Monday 2 for 1 coupons in his face? Not in my world they don’t. Yet, to say that I am against pizza-eaters or gays is absurd. Our Saddleback Church offer more weight-watchers meetings to overeaters than any other evangelical megachurch on the west coast.” -from an NBC Dateline interview

Sounds like a 6 year old’s logic.

35. catnip - 22 December 2008
36. mattes - 22 December 2008

Only in America:

‘Money Given To Nearly 600 Executives In 2007 Would Cover Bailout Costs For Many Of The 116 Taxpayer Bailed-Out Banks’

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/22/bailedout-executives-got-_n_152773.html

37. marisacat - 22 December 2008

catnip…

your ‘Teddy partridge” comment is out of moderation… Sorry! for the delay…

8)

38. marisacat - 22 December 2008

33

Bingo:

The message is clear: anti-semitism is unacceptable, but anti-gay bigotry…not so much.

It is also perfectly fine to tell women they are committing a new holocaust by having an abortion. PERFECTLY fine.

The Warren thing is horrible. And the pity is that gays, toomany of them, are falling for the bullshit.

Frankly watching the Obster thru the primaries and the GE, I don’t think he has feelings, at all, for people. And none for women. He likes powerful people who will assist him or enrich him. And if one reads Mme Obster’s history, same thing there. It possibly was fostered in the childhood home in the relationship to the Daley machine.

My own opinion of the coming years is GOOD LUCK. We will need it.

If his “following” accepts the Warren mess, there will be more to come. And his following does accept it. No real problem with it. The little gays who are concerned should grow up and understand pragmatism.

Or some such bullshit.

39. NYCO - 22 December 2008

34. Wow! What a tremendous asshole! (I mean, we’re talking Goatse-level, here…)

40. NYCO - 22 December 2008

Frankly watching the Obster thru the primaries and the GE, I don’t think he has feelings, at all, for people.

I wouldn’t say that about too many people, so I don’t know about that being true of him. I fear that his various constituencies are mostly an abstraction to him, though. And that his main reaction to every disappointment is going to be a shrug, or to minimize criticism by saying “Hey, I understand. You have a right to your opinion. It doesn’t bother me.”

I’m quite sure he has feelings for people. I don’t know how they translate into a political stance. I don’t think a few years of community organizer work is a good way to know what he will do in a crisis (or if he even can acknowledge a crisis).

Again I’m struck by how poorly his rhetoric and thrust of his campaign matches up with the actual economic conditions that wiser people knew were just around the corner. His campaign was essentially triumphalist and rooted in affluence (or “affluence,” since it wasn’t real), the idea that now the younger generation was going to “inherit the wealth” and spend it lavishly on progressive causes. All so vague, all so based on assumptions that didn’t hold water.

He was elected by people who, by and large, weren’t paying attention; and also by people who were paying attention but who projected their own goals onto him without checking to see if he really did support those goals.

Well, now he’s ours for 4 years so one can only hope the much-vaunted experience of holding the presidency really does transform.

41. NYCO - 22 December 2008

40. PS… it’s not as if ALL the presidential candidates weren’t utterly oblivious as to the economic wreck looming. Obama can’t be singled out for that sin.

42. marisacat - 22 December 2008

Well Ann Curry ofr NBC had a one on one interveiw with Warren, each seated in a chair facing the other… she asked him if he would adjust his opinion of gay marriage if he would ever accept that it is not a mental condition, that it is human desire and well within the realm of normal (forget her exact words), that people arrive wired one way or the other… and he said well he was wired to want to ”have sex with every good looking woman he meets” but restrains himself.

She kept it to a bare flinch, seated almost knee to knee with him.. but my guess he is a tangle of ugly barely restrained hard wiring.

Susie Bright came right out and called him a closet case.

43. bayprairie - 22 December 2008

marisa said

The Warren thing is horrible. And the pity is that gays, toomany of them, are falling for the bullshit.

i’ll say. at least if juan cole can be believed.

via a poster/operative at dkos

Melissa Etheridge wants us to reach out to Rick Warren

which links to this diary as futher proof that warren guy is ok.

the big rick’s yamaka

wow. who knew melissa etheridge is teh pope of gay people

44. marisacat - 22 December 2008

He was bizarrely detached at small forum after small forum. Did nto want to be at the issue forums with people discussing real life problems. He was getting criticised for the big showy speeches, but eek! his handlers had a problem, he HATED the forums with breathing people within a few feet.

One here in SF was striking. He met in the Mission district with mostly women, at a neighborhood center. It was late winter of 2008. 4 women sat at a round table with him, one had a tiny, very quiet baby strapped to her chest and three other women. One was white (think the mother with baby) and the other three were a mix of what one finds in cities.

I cannot tell you the boredom on his face, the disdain. I saw it over and over. Usually men who love their families can find a way to extend some sort of vague appreciation for the moment, at least. His mother, his daughters, his grandmother? Not with him.

And it all leads to that shitty way he closed off his week of shifting and hardening his positions, from FISA to, at the end of the week, women who are “just blue” should nto be allowed an abortion. I love how politicians toss off a full mis read of LAW with such tragic disdain.

Eventually I reached a conclusion. Couldn’t always have been that he had a headache that day and wished he was home in Chicago. Being nursed.

No sorry, over the two years I did reach taht conclusion.

45. marisacat - 22 December 2008

43

Thanks bay, was just about to put up the slobber from Melissa’s [Etheridge] partner (which is possibly all sh ewill be, they delayed getting married in the summer, so…. )…

I was horrified. Aside from how juvenile the writing is.

46. marisacat - 22 December 2008

I am too far away and not familiar with the columnist in the NY Post, but from Ben smith at Politico (embedded links at BS)

[F]red Dicker, the New York Post columnist whose sourcing is good enough that I’ve heard his Monday column referred to as “David Paterson’s blog,” savages her today, with a column that makes a Palin comparison, calls one incident “pathetic,” and describes Paterson’s trip to Iraq with Reps. Steve Israel and Anthony Weiner as a kind of audition for the former:

“The governor will be talking to Steve about his interest in the Senate, and you could say this gives Steve Israel a leg up on Caroline,” “a source close to Paterson” tells Dicker, and his sources up there tend to be very close….snip…

47. marisacat - 22 December 2008

The Democatic party just comes off as so nothing. Mashed potatoes.

John Nichols would support anyone wiht “D” …. meanwhile, will 51 y/o Caroline ever manage to speak for herself. Possibly not, I am guessing.

48. catnip - 22 December 2008

40. I fear that his various constituencies are mostly an abstraction to him, though.

I think “abstraction” is a very accurate way to describe teh situation. I also think “aloof” will be one word that defines his presidency.

49. catnip - 22 December 2008

Salt in the wound:

(APN) ATLANTA – Controversial pastor Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, who at least once has compared homosexuality to incest, has been booked to be the keynote speaker at Martin Luther King, Jr. Annual Commemorative Service, according to a copy of the program obtained by Atlanta Progressive News.

The service is scheduled for January 19, 2009, at 10am, at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church and is included in the official program of the ten-day King Center’s Martin Luther King, Jr. Celebration which begins on January 10.

Local homosexual activist Darlene Hudson says she learned the news when contacted by APN and expects there will be protests.

It is ironic that in fact, the first King memorial march, which took place in Memphis, Tennessee, the day after King was assassinated, was co-organized by his friend and advisor, Bayard Rustin, who was openly homosexual.

50. catnip - 22 December 2008

It seems Warren is now deemed to be this generation’s Billy Graham. Quite the sudden surge of political power.

51. marisacat - 22 December 2008

Call it over:

(APN) ATLANTA – Controversial pastor Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, who at least once has compared homosexuality to incest, has been booked to be the keynote speaker at Martin Luther King, Jr. Annual Commemorative Service, according to a copy of the program obtained by Atlanta Progressive News.

Not that the King children were/are anything to write home about. Or the King relatives. Like the FDR sons… shits in baskets.

When Coretta S-King was alive the King Foudnation was one place gays could bring issues of being fired for being gay. I am sure that is over. It is equality for THE CHOSEN and the religious.

52. marisacat - 22 December 2008

For once Barney is RIGHT, from the page.. they have the vid

Link to The Page :

In an interview with MSNBC Monday, the Democratic congressman says Obama “made a serious mistake” in singling out the pastor to deliver the inaugural invocation.

“I believe that he (Obama) overestimates his ability to get people to put aside fundamental differences.”

Click above to watch.

53. catnip - 22 December 2008

CNN’s reporting that the commercial real estate sector is now trying to panhandle bailout money from the gov’t.

Next?

54. catnip - 22 December 2008

Abidin’ with Biden on Larry King tonite.

55. marisacat - 22 December 2008

The whirled needs to stop spinning, LOL from Glen Reynolds..

December 22, 2008

POPPING A CAP on Matt Yglesias. Sorry, if you can’t stand what bloggers blog, don’t pretend you’re cool enough to hire bloggers. Because when you do what Jennifer Palmieri did, you demonstrate that you’re just a bunch of political hacks with a blog, and you’ve undercut your blogger’s position in the future. Dumb. Too dumb for a position in the Obama Administration, I’d think.

56. marisacat - 22 December 2008

I don’t want to google “Jennifer Palmieri” but iirc she’s been on the Communications staff of a few primary candidates over the past couple of cycles. hmmm… thinking Edwards in 2004, plus others.

Another mediocre person winging and whingeing their way to the top fo the Dem party heap of whatever.

57. marisacat - 22 December 2008

On and on it goes.

In comments at the Vatican that are likely to provoke a furious reaction from homosexual groups, Benedict also warned that blurring the distinction between male and female could lead to the “self-destruction” of the human race.

BUT! ARE THEY PIZZA!

In his address to the Curia, the Vatican’s central administration, he described behaviour beyond traditional heterosexual relations as “a destruction of God’s work” and said that the Roman Catholic Church had a duty to “protect man from the destruction of himself”.

It is not “outmoded metaphysics” to urge respect for the “nature of the human being as man and woman,” he added.

“The tropical forests do deserve our protection. But man, as a creature, does not deserve any less.”

The Catholic Church teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are. It opposes gay marriage and, in October, a leading Vatican official described homosexuality as “a deviation, an irregularity, a wound”. ..snip…

Maybe he and Ganswein could fit Warren in the papal marital bed.

58. catnip - 22 December 2008

58. BUT! ARE THEY PIZZA!

lol 😀

59. marisacat - 22 December 2008

fwiw, Yglesias responds.

60. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

34 – and to think that far too many Americans look to that fraud as some kind of leader/philosopher.

This country has made Teh Stupid a national way of life.

61. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

57 – But man, as a creature, does not deserve any less.”

Too bad they don’t feel the same way about children:

The Role Of John XXIII

As Exhibit A, McMurry points to a document, called “Crimen Sollicitationis,” signed by Pope John XXIII. The document tells bishops how to handle, among other things, child sex-abuse cases. The document was written in 1962 but only surfaced five years ago.

When former Benedictine priest Patrick Wall saw it, he thought, “Oh my, I can’t believe they just handed over the map!”

Wall used to handle sex-abuse cases for the church. He left the priesthood and is now an investigator for plaintiffs.

“This is how I was instructed as a priest to handle the different accusations,” he recalls. “I had never seen the document but, lo and behold, that’s exactly the process I was taught as a 27-year-old priest of how to do this.”

The document states that abuse cases must be “pursued in a most secretive way,” and that all involved be “restrained by a perpetual silence.” That includes the bishop, the priest prosecutor and the judge, the accuser and the accused, even the notary.

“Every single person involved in the case is absolutely obligated to the grave to remain silent,” Wall says. “Otherwise they will be excommunicated and damned to hell.”

62. marisacat - 22 December 2008

America will never change. All that matters is that he sells books (and Obama shills for him) and the Saddleback Rest Stop preaches to (they say) 30K.

All. that. matters.

Just as Obster is MARKETING.

Same as Doris Kearns Goodwin, another that OBster shills for.

There is no demand that these people be cogent. Or sane. Or anything else.

Warren has what matters, a lock on a ATM linked to fake religion… and DKG seems to like to tell stories of being bent over the desk in the Oval. And giggle and chatter like a teen ager on talking head shows.

The one passes for religion, the second for history.

63. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

So, if you’re Faux and you want to cover the controversy about Obama’s favorite homophobe, who do you ask? Why, another wackjob bigot, of course:

VAN SUSTEREN: Let me jump to another topic, which you probably weren’t expecting, is that President-elect Obama has chosen Rick Warren to give the invocation and there are a lot of gay Americans very upset. What do you make of this?

HUCKABEE: Well, it’s ridiculous for people to be upset with Rick Warren. He’s one of the most influential spiritual leaders of this generation. (which doesn’t speak well of the current state of this generation) I’ve known Rick for over 30 years. We were actually in seminary together in Ft. Worth, Texas, back in the mid-1970s. He is today what he always has been, and that’s a humble, gracious, thoughtful, very intellectual capable person. I think it’s a wonderful thing that Barack Obama reached out to him. I thought it was a tremendous expression on Barack Obama’s part. I’m proud that Rick Warren is going to do it and I think that people ought to recognize…look, that’s part of what being religious is all about. You have strong convictions and nobody is going to have a religious leader who is in agreement with everybody.

Meanwhile, John Heileman on Tweety thinks it’s just wonderful that Obama has Sista Soulja’d the GBLT community. It plays well with “regular Americans”, don’tcha know?

64. NYCO - 22 December 2008

46. Fred Dicker is sort of the Matt Drudge of New York State politics, except he’s employed by a major newspaper. He’s been around forever.

65. Intermittent Bystander - 22 December 2008

Huzzah! The sun came up today!

Thank yew, Lewee Armstrong!

BUT! IS IT A PIZZA?!

Quick . . . ask the Pope!

Sez Ratzy: No no no, it’s nothing more than a lowly otter’s snout, in some sort of celestial orbit. (Oh all RIGHT dead astronomers, so we’re in orbit of it. . . shut up shut UP! shut UP! . . . grumble grumble). In any event, that very STRANGELY glowing heat-producing thing is – just like your body! – a fully owned subsidiary of God Enterprises, Inc.! So shut UP and STIFLE your enthusiasms!

🙂

As I said at Madman’s blog yesterday, Eventually, all these fin de siècle neo-fundamental convulsions will have to subside.

But don’t nobody give away their boots just yet, right?

Hilarious, that dust-up about Yglesias. Just caught a bit of Lessig on Fresh Air tonight, talking about creativity, remixes, Sonny Bono, and the state of copyright online. If I weren’t already half-fritzed-out by
real life right now, I’d attempt a recap. Sorry!

66. catnip - 22 December 2008

Tonite, I bake! (later on)

63.

President-elect Obama has chosen Rick Warren to give the invocation and there are a lot of gay Americans very upset.

I heard some CNN anchor use the same language today i.e. it’s TEH GAYZ who are upset. No mention about straight (etc) people who are absolutely appalled by this too.

67. Intermittent Bystander - 22 December 2008

Photo is truly stunning, BTW.

How great is it that those birds can fly?

68. Intermittent Bystander - 22 December 2008

66 – Right ON, catnip.

69. Intermittent Bystander - 22 December 2008

Such a big part of the game. Straight people giving a shit about gay rights is dealt with by employing ye olde stigmas – he who smelt it, dealt it, you might say – to keep the common chatter down.

Kinda like the semi-threatening cracks about anit-war voices emboldening the terrorists, really.

70. marisacat - 22 December 2008

67

It must be something that has caught a few photogs..as suddenly I was running into a few photos of the little birds on the barbed wire in Afghanistan… plus that wire does nto leave much space between barbs and razors.

71. marisacat - 22 December 2008

well plus Warren is bats on women, imo. He just says it is abortion but it is really women he blasts.

72. marisacat - 22 December 2008

Sully says Melissa Etheridge has chosen the same path as he……… (We are blessed.)

Melissa:

[M]aybe in our anger, as we consider marches and boycotts, perhaps we can consider stretching out our hands. Maybe instead of marching on his church, we can show up en mass and volunteer for one of the many organizations affiliated with his church that work for HIV/AIDS causes all around the world.

Maybe if they get to know us, they wont fear us.

I know, call me a dreamer, but I feel a new era is upon us.

Sully closes with:

We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. And what we did this past year needs to be a beginning, not an end.

If I may say so, she is too close to the damned party. And Sully just lusts for Ronnie and for Miss Maggie.

Useless.

Abd Obster’s white handlers are laughing.

73. Intermittent Bystander - 22 December 2008

plus that wire does nto leave much space between barbs and razors.

These are SMALL birds!

Scottish lyricists (among others!) make much of the comings and goings of the small birds!

The Chevalier’s Lament
Melody – “Captain O’Kean”

Robert Burns, 1788

The small birds rejoice in the green leaves returning,
The murmuring streamlet winds clear thro’ the vale;
The primroses blow in the dews of the morning,
And wild scatter’d cowslips bedeck the green dale:
But what can give pleasure, or what can seem fair,
When the lingering moments are number’d by care?
No flow’rs gaily springing, nor birds sweetly singing,
Can soothe the sad bosom of joyless despair.

2. The deed that I dar’d, could it merit their malice?
A king and a father to place on his throne!
His right are these hills, and his right are those valleys,
Where the wild beasts find shelter, tho I can find none!
But ’tis not my suff’rings this wretched, forlorn
My brave gallant friends,’Tis your ruin I mourn;
Your faith prov’d so loyal in hot bloody trial,
Alas! can I make it no better return!

(Just one, EZ-Google example. But a very simple smiley here!)

74. marisacat - 22 December 2008

Oh too funny… the ONE thing she does know, right off the bat. No financial disclosure unless and until the seat has her navy blue silk ass in it.

[I]f she were running for election to the Senate, Ms. Kennedy would have to file a 10-part, publicly available report disclosing her financial assets, credit card debts, mortgages, book deals and the sources of any payments greater than $5,000 in the last three years.

But Ms. Kennedy, who has asked Gov. David A. Paterson to appoint her to succeed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton — and who helped oversee the vetting process for Mr. Obama’s possible running mates — is declining to provide a variety of basic data, including companies she has a stake in and whether she has ever been charged with a crime.

Ms. Kennedy declined on Monday to reply to those and other questions posed by The New York Times about any potential ethical, legal and financial entanglements. Through a spokesman, she said she would not disclose that kind of information unless and until she becomes a senator. …snip…

What a laugh. Of coourse I never believed she did anything w/r/t to the Veeper spot. It came out Johnson, tho supposedly sent home due to a smudged past during Fannie and Freddie red faces, was still working on the VP “search”.

I still say, Barney the WH dog to the Senate! It. cannot. get. worse.!

75. marisacat - 22 December 2008

There is more… and O’Byrne is the former Catholic priest that is close with CKS/famille. Not sure NYT manages to mention that… it all fluttered up for a day or so then died… where ever Catholic secrets go to die.

Mr. Paterson’s office said his choice for the Senate would undergo the same background check as any cabinet-level officer in Albany, including verification of employment and education, a review of tax returns, and a criminal background check by the State Police. The governor’s vetting process drew criticism this fall when it surfaced that his top aide at the time, Charles O’Byrne, had failed to pay income taxes for five years. The Paterson administration has since said it is requiring more extensive background checks.

LOL:

Ms. Kennedy also avoided disclosing any information about her finances while working as chief fund-raiser for the New York City Department of Education. She took the three-day-a-week job — director of the Office of Strategic Partnerships — in October 2002 at $1 a year, intending at the time to step up to a $90,000-a-year salary, but she later decided to forgo the salary. Taking it would have required her to file disclosures with the city’s Conflicts of Interests Board, officials said. Since then, Ms. Kennedy has been a vice chairwoman of the Fund for Public Schools, the nonprofit arm of the strategic partnerships office. A 2006 state law required that the board members of all nonprofits “affiliated, sponsored by or created by” a city government submit detailed disclosure forms. But on Dec. 10, the city told an Assembly committee that the Fund for Public Schools would be exempt from the new law, reasoning that the Department of Education is, legally speaking, a school district, not a city agency — even though the mayor has control over the schools.

76. Intermittent Bystander - 22 December 2008

Give em peeeee tests, Guv!

77. Intermittent Bystander - 22 December 2008

Capital P, which rhymes with pee, which stands for profits!

(Prophets, too, for that matter!)

78. marisacat - 22 December 2008

Don’t think she’d be giving up pee either… LOL

So far, on her tour, Ms. Kennedy has taken just 11 questions from reporters, has granted no interviews, and responded only in writing to inquiries about her positions on significant issues.

79. marisacat - 22 December 2008

YUP! They ARE turning on each other… LOL more the merrier, start the bonfire. First up, one of the Indian “fundraisers”… Nayak.

A key figure in Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s alleged scheme to sell a U.S. Senate seat has sought immunity from federal authorities in return for his cooperation in their ongoing probe, the Tribune has learned.

Raghuveer P. Nayak, an Oak Brook businessman and political fundraiser, is the unnamed “Individual D” who prosecutors say was being squeezed by the governor for campaign cash in return for appointing U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. to the Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama, sources said.

Investigators appeared at Nayak’s Oak Brook home the morning the FBI arrested Blagojevich, the sources said. Nayak was among a number of people connected to the case who were contacted by federal agents that day.

Nayak has not been accused of wrongdoing and declined to comment. It is unclear what information he can provide to authorities, who said they had more work to do after moving quickly to interrupt the governor’s alleged scheme. …snip….

Loads of sneaky little tidbits.

80. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

Lessig was really good on Fresh Air, until Terri Gross let him wander off into Congressional corruption. Not that he didn’t have a point about how corruption leads to bad laws like our current copyright setup, but he just wanders off into a naive cloud when he starts talking about that stuff, and FAR too tied to the donks to do anything serious.

81. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

Remember the Republican computer guy Michael Connell, who died in the plane crash (I posted a link a day or two ago).? He was tied to alleged computer problems in OH in ’04 and to the disappearing emails in the White House. Anyway, more about his plane: Connell Cancelled 2 Flights on Sabotage Suspicion.

82. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008
83. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

We all know this here, but once again we hear: Cheney says top congressional Democrats complicit in spying.

CHENEY: We brought in the chairman and the ranking member, House and Senate, and briefed them a number of times up until — this was — be from late ’01 up until ’04 when there was additional controversy concerning the program.

At that point, we brought in what I describe as the big nine — not only the intel people but also the speaker, the majority and minority leaders of the House and Senate, and brought them into the situation room in the basement of the White House.

I presided over the meeting. We briefed them on the program, and what we’d achieved, and how it worked, and asked them, “Should we continue the program?” They were unanimous, Republican and Democrat alike. All agreed — absolutely essential to continue the program.

I then said, “Do we need to come to the Congress and get additional legislative authorization to continue what we’re doing?” They said, “Absolutely not. Don’t do it, because it will reveal to the enemy how it is we’re reading their mail.”

That happened. We did consult. We did keep them involved. We ultimately ended up having to go to the Congress after the New York Times decided they were going to make the judge to review all of — or make all of this available, obviously, when they reacted to a specific leak.

But it was a program that we briefed on repeatedly. We did these briefings in my office. I presided over them. We went to the key people in the House and Senate intel committees and ultimately the entirely leadership and sought their advice and counsel, and they agreed we should not come back to the Congress.

Further down:

It is certainly true that Dick Cheney is not exactly the most scrupulously honest public servant around. In fact, he’s almost certainly the opposite. Still, what he said yesterday was merely an expanded and more detailed version of what has previously been publicly reported and, to some degree, confirmed about the knowledge and support of Democratic leaders for the NSA program. Cheney’s claims encompasses the following key Democrats:
Nancy Pelosi (Ranking Member, House Intelligence Committee, House Minority Leader);

Jane Harman (Ranking Member, House Intelligence Committee);

Jay Rockefeller (Ranking Member, Senate Intelligence Committee);

Harry Reid Tom Daschle (Senate Minority Leader).

Unsurprisingly, Pelosi, Harman and Rockefeller all voted last July to legalize warrantless eavesdropping and to immunize telecoms from liability, thereby ensuring an end to the ongoing investigations into these programs. And though he ultimately cast a meaningless vote against final passage, it was Reid’s decisions as Majority Leader which played an instrumental role in ensuring passage of that bill.

84. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

Good Samaritan Rescues Linens ‘N Things Workers Forced To Stand In Subzero Weather

“The issue is that we have somebody in this community that is putting some people at risk,” said the citizen, who asked to remain anonymous. “And it’s not right. They shouldn’t be putting these people in that environment.” He says he spoke with Linens ‘N’ Things, but was told the sign holders are hired by an independent contractor and do not work directly for the company. The man then spoke with the contractor, who listened to his concerns and referred him to his boss. “In his opinion, they weren’t in any harm or any danger,” said the citizen. “He did say that they’re out there trying to generate money for your store and your liquidation. That’s when I came out and said, ‘I’m not with the store.’ He said, ‘who are you?’ I say, ‘I’m just a citizen.’ He said, ‘you’re a concerned citizen?’ I said, ‘yes, I’m a concerned citizen about these people.’ Then he said, ‘well, I don’t care what you think.’ and then he hung up.” After that exchange, the resident says he took the workers to Union Gospel Mission in downtown Sioux Falls, a place where the workers had reportedly been staying for food and shelter. The Mission says anyone who needs shelter is welcome. “That’s just normal, everyday routine,” said Fran Stenberg, executive director of Union Gospel Mission. “People come in and out all the time here, so when it’s cold, it doesn’t make a difference who it is. They can come here and get in and warm up.”

Before dropping the workers off at the Mission, he paid them each the $40 they would have earned standing in the cold holding signs.

85. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008
86. marisacat - 22 December 2008

84

how awful! Not the rescuer, but the whole set up.. those poor workers.

87. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2008

as the economy tightens, that kind of mistreatment is only going to spread as more people become desperate for work.

88. marisacat - 22 December 2008

gnu post

LINK

………….. 😯 ………………


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