Coal from the sea.. 22 December 2008
Posted by marisacat in Culture of Death, Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, UK, WAR!.trackback
Collecting coal from the sea
In this photograph taken in 1980 two local people are seen wheeling home bags of coal which they have gleaned from the beach at Easington Colliery, Co Durham, where the coal seams extend five miles out under the sea. During the coal strike of 1984 which shattered the industry many families relied on sea coal, often collected by their children. Easington Colliery was eventually closed in 1993 (Brian Harris/The Times)
I caught part of a report on retail sales this season, thought I heard that there was an unprecedented lag of 20% this year… but I missed all the details… where and when, for one! So I went looking for some reports…
I found an auto paint and body chain that claims their numbers are off over 20% for Q2 and Q3 (a six month run ending October 31)… What a shock!… but other than that, the news is all over the place, down some, down a little. Or more. Or not.
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Via Angry Arab’s entry….
Bush Doctrine: at Home
“While serving the State Department in several senior capacities over the past four years, I witnessed firsthand the quiet, de facto military takeover of much of the U.S. government. The first assault on civilian government occurred in faraway places — Iraq and Afghanistan — and was, in theory, justified by the exigencies of war.”
I got onto this dicey piece in the Wapo:
We no longer have a civilian-led government. It is hard for a lifelong Republican and son of a retired Air Force colonel to say this, but the most unnerving legacy of the Bush administration is the encroachment of the Department of Defense into a striking number of aspects of civilian government. Our Constitution is at risk. …
While serving the State Department in several senior capacities over the past four years, I witnessed firsthand the quiet, de facto military takeover of much of the U.S. government. The first assault on civilian government occurred in faraway places — Iraq and Afghanistan — and was, in theory, justified by the exigencies of war.
He makes quite a few points, related to ways in which we have formed on-the-ground programs in Iraq and Afghanistan, inserting the military, the Pentagon, where it need not be, where State or other agencies would be more appropriate.
The encroachment within America’s borders continued with the military’s increased involvement in domestic surveillance and its attempts to usurp the role of the federal courts in reviewing detainee cases. The Pentagon also resisted ceding any authority over its extensive intelligence operations to the first director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte — a State Department official who eventually gave up his post to Mike McConnell, a former Navy admiral. The Bush administration also appointed Michael V. Hayden, a four-star Air Force general, to be the director of the CIA. National Security Adviser Stephen J. Hadley saw much of the responsibility for developing and implementing policy on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — surely the national security adviser’s job — given to Lt. Gen. Douglas E. Lute, Bush’s new “war czar.” By 2008, the military was running much of the national security apparatus.
The Pentagon opened a southern front earlier this year when it attempted to dominate the new Merida Initiative, a promising $400 million program to help Mexico battle drug cartels. Despite the admirable efforts of the federal drug czar, John P. Walters, to keep the White House focused on the civilian law-enforcement purpose of the Merida Initiative, the military runs a big chunk of that program as well.
The author offers suggestions to Ob for ways to take the country back from the military. I am not holding my breath.
The last lines are:
In short, he should retake the government before it devours him and us — and return civilian-led government to the people of the United States.
In short, he should retake the government before it devours him and us — and return civilian-led government to the people of the United States.
He won’t. He’s there to lock it into place.
It was clear the military were in charge of NO… not civilian leadership. Near the top of the piece he notes that both Jones, NSA and Blair the DNI are military. Pretty much says it all.
I think this was a done deal as of 9/11/01, and even that was the last piece falling into place. I don’t see any way out short of economic collapse.
Speaking of eating mice (from the previous thread), I heard a former Zimbabwean woman talking about the crisis in her country and she said that’s what some people had resorted to in order to stave off starvation. More here…
Also a continuation from the last thread, it’s clear that Military USA™ is certainly not what the world needs – those obscene budgets spent on killing people in the name of “self-defence” while people are eating mice.
Perhaps (and that’s a big “perhaps”) some yanks will finally wake up and smell the cost of these bullets in others’ lives and theirs.
ugh… think I will head to the kitchen for a campari. The comments to the Wapo article are horrible. Most of them.
LINK
I think starving people out is part of it…
There recently were some interviews around with what was called a white anti apartheid (S Africa when the ANC were rebels) fighter.. will see if I can find them… He talks about how US officials simply walk in where ever they wish with the S African government, walk into the Treasury, walk here walk there, dictate. What passes for the ANC is a corrupt organisation, etc… I doubt there are too many hold outs.. and we showed what we do when a nation goes rogue (Iraq) or 28 years of sanctions agasint Iran or almost 50 agaisnt Cuba.
Mama Clinton wants MORE. What a shock.
I know someone linked to the Juan Cole slobber (101 comments I see to the JC post, hoping for push back!) in the last thread, but I am just getting there…
Moreover, Warren’s work to improve the lives of Africans probably means something to Obama.
Such drool.
I am sorry but we are STILL IN STUPID LAND
…little tiny songbird feet, slashed by razor wire….so fitting …of the times………..if only they’d had some scarlet red Pradas……..
…pluto in capricorn…this should be amusing…….
ah…but then again…in the Vedic….pluto it’s in the “good luck” (for whom? the high cast?) sign of sagitarrius…spelling? well I’m sure it’s not spelled that way in India anyways…………………perhaps some Ivy leager can spell it for us?
Yes but that heavy handed reworking of the planets stole Pluto from us. LOL I never gave it up tho… the one planet I ever really talked about… because anytime someone is truly fucking nuts, or going TFN… I always think, We’re out past Pluto again!
I thought it hte night I heard Joan Sutherland hit “F” too…. The newspaper the next day told me it was “F”… I just knew we were floating far out, waaaay past Pluto.
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..well,……………what can you expect from those who place absolutely no value in the little things in life….which actually……are the most important….
kisses to ya marisa……….
;0)
(must go back and listen to malaguena yet one more time before I go to sleep……)
LOL Via Telegraph, from The Smoking Gun…
Mug Shots of People Arrested Wearing Obama T-Shirt Shwag
WSJ… but did they cancel the platinum halo? The full matched set, for the family? I bet not… 😆
How ’bout Jerry Nadler? Trust him?
Or toss teh ball long, like.. you remember… THE LONG WAR:
More weaselling at the WSJ. The end is especially good. Or bad, depending.
I say this crew of shits just goes on thieving. And warring. With vaca in Kailua. I hear the internet sites of the house rental have wiped its RE value from the web pages. So classic.
Re: Clintons moves as Head of State.
Mama Clinton, her Hubby, and their Jewish Pals are fuckin Kleptofascists who deserve each other. Right in the Hague along with all of the Cheney Bush Rumseld and Gonzales War Criminals and their Enablers. They SERVE and thus deserve each other. As, frankly, the Country, Ob fans in particular now – DESERVES THEM.
The Finger Wag will come out about Charity and Helping Others WORSE OFF. LOL. Then they’ll loot what they can out of Foreign Aid.. This is going to be bizzare these next years with this
scraped together Triumvirate of Hillary, Bill, and the debatable “That One”, what his name, the Affirmative Action Guy….
As for Clintonian Foreign Policy Initiatives–
Back in the “Good ole Days”, another NOT-… I think she, Bill,
and their inner circle floated her stance on Palestine during Bill’s Admin as a chip for MORE chips… A nice way for Rahm and Rubin to shake down the happily Con’d Aunts and Uncles as it were…
Not surprisingly, the Chosen Brokers fleeced their simpleminded own along with every other fool…
LOL, then, like Madoff now, they split the spoils..
Ob is so willing, so pliant, so very weak.
Just Politically DOA waiting for the toe tag.
The Obsters are sure to weep,
now that “The Stool Has Been Passed” though they are surely to forget precisely where they were or what they were doing
“when the news came in”…
Aside from the recently hyped Inagural Crowd Sizes, people are getting it..
My friends – the semi fans in the Swing States?
Just weeks ago most certainly headed for the Historic Inaugural?
Not Going. Pissed.
Embarrased. Scratching the stickers off the cars.
LOL. Whoops.
Well, the numbers were hype on Inaug Crowd turnout to begin with,
but Already, Projected crowd in DC cut in HALF.
Manage those expectations…..BOY.
Andrew Sullivan in 012 as the Let’s Make it Up To Em Candidate?
Anyone?
Sullied? Then Vote Sully. GAY.
AND CATHOLIC!.
Not Really From England, Oxford. Or Harvard… That much.
….So on Voting Day
Remember Sully.
Catholic…. AND GAY.
( Shot of Sully doin the pageant wave, then voiceover:
{ I’m Andrew Sullivan and I approved this message. for Today! }
Regulator helped Indymac fudge teh books. And some indication it might not be contained to Indymac.
A lot of this swirls over my head, but I don’t thnk I have read such a nice clear statement from the FBI, like that one up there, in all the slither and blither about the mortgage fraud.
hmmm Churches, church property going into foreclosure.
Hh Popcorn from 2003 about ready now…
the deal was pushed by NY Speaker of the House Sheldon Silver.
Both Jewish, Hevesi was that Orthodox Shit Sheldon Silver’s boy.
Silver is the slimy crook who <a href=”covered up the RAPE of one women on his staff who was raped BY ANOTHER STAFFER.
Hevesi ultimitely got disgraced in advance, set up, and tripped up in a chump change diversion of services rap fined 5 grand and given probation over the state driver chaufferring his wife around..
So who is Elliot Broidy?
Unmasking Israel’s Mystery Benefactor
More in Next Post.
Not enough Popcorn or Bold to go around.
Unmasking Israel’s Mystery Benefactor
Here’s The Pitch™:
LOL. “….a notable vote of confidence…
in Elliott and in the future of the Israeli economy..”Oh I’m Sure.
“Confidence”, all right.
This next line is KEY:
So when are People going to get it that Terrorists under the aegis of Israel have conducted Financial War – AT LEAST- on the US? And that our government is filled with collaborators both Christian and Jew , “Republicans” and “Democrats” alike?
And given the position of Jews in the US-
People think it WASN”T an Inside Job? GMAFB.
All the Republican Shits are in Broidys back pocket of course.
As a Bush Pioneer, he funded everybody on down to Cantor
Some gelt though,
BROIDY, ELLIOTT
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
BROIDY CAPITAL MANAGEMENT/OWNER
REPUBLICAN JEWISH COALITION-POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (RJC-PAC)
06/27/2003 5000.00 23991240732
04/28/2005 5000.00 25970770895
06/06/2007 5000.00 27960069156
But,
You.
Just.
Know.
This isn’t it tho- ‘
…not so fast for Whiney Dave Obey mentioned upthread…
he had his hand out along the way…
BROIDY, ELLIOTT
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
BROIDY CAPITAL
OBEY, DAVID R
VIA A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR DAVE OBEY
06/18/1999 1000.00 99034722911
Lieberman Soft money obviously:
BROIDY, ELLIOTT
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
SELF-EMPLOYED/INVESTOR
LIEBERMAN, JOSEPH I
VIA FRIENDS OF JOE LIEBERMAN
09/25/2006 12600.00 2602077098
Daschle got money too from
the CAMPAIGN FOR WORKING FAMILIES
Whole shitload of Repub Payouts. LOL. Broidy sent them 5g’s too…
DASCHLE, THOMAS ANDREW 10/24/2004 2045.00 24981535050
DASCHLE, THOMAS ANDREW 10/24/2004 10359.00 24981535050BROIDY, ELLIOTT
All shits.
Nothing but the defecation of High Colonics left in the punch bowl.
It’s a freakin’ heatwave … it’s in the TEENS!!! Time to break out the shorts and t-shirt!
Geez, how do you people up in Canada and New Hampshire and MN DEAL with this shit form weeks and weeks?
Of course, the downside is that the “warm” ** cough** air is bringing more fucking snow with it.
The ULTIMATE Punishment
handed out for Madoff by Yeshiva U.
Yep. You guessed it.
That’s Right. The Horror of Horrors.
They Banned him from their Website.
And in the tradition of the Ancient and Great Faith™,
they will proceed to reflect upon this deep and personal matter
“In consultation with their Clergy©” (©Obama’08)
Madman, where are you located?
curioser and curioser:
The global police agency Interpol says India has not shared any information with it about last month’s deadly attacks in Mumbai (Bombay).
Not kosher to say the least. I say we know nothing. Nothing. And India should stop making representations as to anything being a FACT in what they offer to the media.
BHHM in case you are around, your link in #20 failed…
I went into the HTML but no stub of the URL made it… if you have it just post it and I will fix the comment…
8)
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NYCO,
think Madman is at work, and Mcat is blocked there. He is in Milwaukee WI.
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They are so anxious to get it out in a timely fashion LOL talk about dumping it on The Holiday Schedule….:
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
Obama Transition Team to Release Report on Blagojevich Contacts at 4:30 p.m. ET
Andrew of the Atlantic:
No dear… you are merely Pizza to him. The refusable pizza.
Sorry. Link for #20 on NY State Pension Fund
Other link on Silver covering up His Counsel’s rape of another staffer.
Very Sordid background. Silver covered for the guy all the way. Milks the upstanding Orthodox bit for all its worth. “Outraged” at “scurrilous charges” aimed at his staff counsel…Lawyer Boxley is AA.Played that angle too.
Anyways, The typical lying bullshit. . His Guy plead to sexual assualt. Got 5 Probation . His Lawyer – the rapist – Boxley – got his law license back. They’re Both scum. . Not the end of the story yet. They had their fingers in Police Pension Money too..It’s going to get interesting.
We are all “outraged at the scurrilous charges”… just in a different way!
27 curiouser and curiouse
re India noncooperation on Mumbai.attacks…
Pakistan scrambled jets this morning[WaPo]
as Kashmiri Police Call 3 Suspects Pakistani [NYT]
WaPo:
Just hearing a Madoff fund “operator” found dead in his NYC apt…
De la Roussaie (phonetic) off to check clusterfuckstock…
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I don’t wnat anyone dead (other than those who deserve it!)… but I LOVE unfolding messes of this sort. Murder and suicide are just so Agatha Christie in these deals…
Well, one thing is on the rise.
Retail Theft.
Good. It will go well with the Wholesale Theft.
Nothin like a matched set,
or a set match, to go with the straw in the creche this year.
LOL – Oh Wait, that’s assuming someone didn’t steal the straw.
To eat.
Why is it though,
that so many cops go in for the Ernst Röhm look? Hmmm.
LOL.Those porkers in the front of that pic couldn’t chase down a little old lady in a walker who just boosted a pair of nylons.
rick warren says all you bloggers need to get a life.
says you’re rude, sitting in the quietness of your own home, hiding behind a screen and all.
assberet
Well! The report i heard really mangled his name:
The notice in La Tribune
Seems he had spent a week working to recoup any of the lost monies. Well… did not work out.
Someone needs to stick a pin in Warren. And issue us perfumed hankies to survive the gaseous waves.
Things must be getting a tad thin on the ground, they are throwing Obster’s pecs at us again. Next, the marriage. Last will be stories of the “little girls”.
So predictable.
OOPS! 😳 Very sorry, a BHHM post in Moderation from Midnight…
so will post it this way, otherwise it is lost upthread:
I don’t see any way out short of economic collapse.
Well buckle up, everybody, cause this is IT.
Meanwhile Obaa-baaa is Body surfing in Hawaii,
..Smart OBLively-us move, there, Ob Political handlers, ….NOT.
..the body surfing “eye candy” is “whoops” leaked to a
dead broke country largely Freezing Their Ass OFF this week….
LOL. Dumb whether they planned it – dumb whether they didn’t –
Dripping SHALLOW Head to Toe, Obama’s going to Hawaii anyway.
Maybe the Set Designers next repairitive move will be to have him
at a Holy Casual seaside Service. In a Shlong-accentuating Speedo.
Afterall, EVERYBODY WANTS him – Or can be converted, no?
Meanwhile, Cheney in a Pantsuit
prefers the State Department as Perch this Time
Economic collapse? If only it was just money…
So most definitely buckle up.
Extra-Official Looting of EVERY Portfolio has been under way for quite some time , just pillaging in plain view on behalf of
Corporate Militarists and their Israeli applauding Patrons.
Our Elites and Proles alike STILL not quite getting the utter unsustainability of it all, especially its inevitable end of Grief and Ruin. Jeebus, 2/3 of the country believe in RAPTURE.
Thus, by the same insane and ignorant belief
(like those who believe in tactical nuclear assault)
…in that same decidedly ignorant belief that neither
Cheney or the Republicans Would PROVOKE “Global” Chaos
—
Neither the Clintons ,
nor the Democrats, or their FrontMan, Obaaabaa can AVOID IT …
If Obama is this ‘pragmatic’ MIC and People’s Hero, our latter day Nero said to bear an Administrative of mixed success while whispered to be a body surfing Emperor during Siege and calamitous Surge, lets not forget what happened in 70 AD .. at least after the historical figurine’s collapse. …
Sure, it’s useful to keep in mind that the Israel-Off-the-Hook™ then
didn’t have the Nuclear Arms that their perennially quarrelsome Rebbe’s and Bebe’s do now…..but anyone believing you can cruise missile, conquer, steal, torture, bulldoze, or starve others on their way to “Security” is just a micron or shrapnel fragment away from being , fittingly, “disabused” ….
color me cynical but im thinking melisa etheridge might just tying to “saddleback” her new CD to a broader audience
A New Thought For Christmas
Melissa Etheridge
and hey if anyone’s not doing anyting tonight you can catch her on
what, no david crosby?
Madoff fund operator found dead…
I don’t want anyone dead ….
Me neither. I’m just filled with Hope. . LOL.
I don’t want anyone dead, literally.
No one in particular. Just a number of a sort
50 – 100.,000 of the top white collar shysters in this country.
Kinda like a layoff. But permanent.
Like the Layoffs that kill so many people in one place while making serfs of people in another. I’ll be satisfied with a number.
A large digit with lots of zeros attached. Justice, no?
That said, I’m not going to do anything other than try to bore a few to death that might happen to read my posts here or elsewhere. LOL.. At least regular Mcat posters can look at my stuff and go “Oh that Long Winded Lunatic Bastard™?@!!” And quickly scroll down….
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For sale soon to the Saddleback Faithful (they have a giftee shoppee). Watch for Melissa and wife in Hawai’ian shirts soon!
So this guy Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchetis gone.
Shame. And to think, if he had lived and estate planned …
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.
.
he would have had the Mausoleum in foreclosure.
And with a name like that….Now,
He’ll be lucky if his pals kick in for a marker that says “Rene V.-R.I.P”
Christ .. where to begin. Clusterstockfuck saying maybe Madoff NOT a Law School grad from Hofstra.
It’s a really dicey story. No truth anywhere!
NYC (and thus NYS) may be in the tank already.
They go on to talk about CA, which IS in the tank and sinking fast in the bloody shark filled water.
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http://clusterstock.alleyinsider.com/
Speaking of which:
I think everyone in CA would like to fire everyone in Sacramento. What a mess we are in.
Oh I am sure Obster’s DNA will take care of any little problems. Everything will be new and different as of January 21. (the sarcasm is puddling)
Guardian via TO
Truth Out picked up a couple of very smart articles on the criminal (as in benefits the criminals) aspect of the global economic crisis. One from Figaro and one from Les Echos. Hard to pick a graf but here goes… Les Echos:
The dirty secret of Empire State budgeting is that New York City depends disproportionately on Wall Street for its budget and New York State depends on New York City.
Not exactly a dirty secret.
But it is also true that Upstate’s progress is hamstrung by regulations and practices that downstate people want and do not help at all up here. Not to mention the property taxes are the most onerous in the nation.
(But 20 percent unemployment? Where are they getting that figure? Even in the worst rural counties I don’t think it’s that bad.)
we’re facing a fundamental alteration of the facts of financial life in New York
I and every other Upstate blogger around have been screaming ourselves blue that this arrangement has to change. You can’t have two economies in one state — one super-rich and the other poor and dependent. People want to work, to have meaningful industry or purpose, and have dignity… they do not want handouts. And that makes me sound very Republican, I know, but it’s truly heartbreaking to watch a once-proud region that invented a huge chunk of what we take for granted as “American progress” considered the ugly aunt in the attic.
People want to work, to have meaningful industry or purpose, and have dignity… they do not want handouts. And that makes me sound very Republican, I know,
No it just makes you sound sane. I would say the same thing…
I do think in CA, if one is honest about the chronically unemployed… the chronically underemployed, forced to part time but do want full time.. those no longer on the unemployment rolls thus not counted as “actively seeking work” as no one is counting them, those who have drifted to the underground cash economy but would prefer a real job (perhaps gone forever), etc.,.. then in some districts, non seasonal, non farm, I feel we DO have well over 15% unemployment – and higher.
…..”possibly ending the long dominance of 10 large Israeli family-based investment groups, which traditionally cut all the big financial deals in the country.”
Interesting, I wonder what those names are.
I found this article interesting as well:
The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.
Oh too funny!
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Looks like Bernie Madoff did nto even go to Hofstra COLLEGE (much less the Law School)… but it does seem he went to Far Rockaway HS… and then said he was bound for ALABAMA U. But never showed up?
What a hoot. Are we positive he is JEWISH? Cuz he seems to have had it in for them.
Sounds like Hofstra is covering for him:
Apparently Bernied Madoffstra with the degrees, too.
LOL. Oh God Please Please PLEASE
let the guy ask to be converted to Catholicism.
LOL. SO WHO THE FUCK IS HE?
prolly a secret Mason. LOL with a past in the big Vatican swindle….
like the guy I posted about… present at the Keating S n L stuff… and now leaving traces as a corrupt regulator in this banking mess…. fingerprints at Indymac…but they suspect others tooooo…
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he’s the cat in the hat….
I still can’t believe Moodys and S&Poor are still in business. Why are they not being investigated?
Well states still want them (rating agencies) to rate their bond offereings … for one.
Hell it is all criminal.
Here is a scream of a comment, from Clusterstock, at the did he even go to Hofstra COLLEGE link:
It’s all because he wuz JEWISH TRAILER TRASH. 🙄
Nice to have people in high places:
‘PONZI SCHEME’ AT CITI SUIT SLAMS RUBIN
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1945
landed on this too
All you can do is laugh. I found this thru Coates at the Atlantic blogsnoggeries. Interesting McWhorter thinks he speaks for Aretha. Hell if I know, maybe he does.
I am happy to throw any reactionary, religious tithing, pastor-obeying, non-humanist conservative over board. Any color and any confessional group. From Caroline Kennedy (oh please I so believe the ”staffer filled out” forms!) to Warren to McWhorter (eventually that stick up his ass is gonna kill him) … to Obster. Not a problem. I could care less anymore.
How people can keep on prattling as Melissa and McWhorter do, that Warren loves and respects gays, when he carries out regular “cures” and a ministry of curing the gay, boggles the mind. They are politically opportunistic. And want to be.
It cudda been Brooklyn Law!… they are checking the records in the basement:
Hmmm. Bernie, Bernie, Bernie…
Lawyer from New York.Dual Personality.
Manipulative. Secretive. Disruptive.
Incredible Pain in the ass.
Could it be?
Bernie blogs on ‘kos?
This needs to be investigated.
Somebody needs to find out.
Yep. This looks like a job for-
DavefromQueens.
One more and I’m out.
This guy’s article could have been entitled: “Financial Suicide”
he does well till the end until his Hope on Ob and “Roadbuilding”…
Like the Great National Pothole for graft will save us…
Anyways, though the guy fails to understand the solution,
he makes his points::::
Well, “we really got” Stadiums and Convention Centers and Roads too.
We “really got” Industrial Enterprise Zones, Office Parks and Malls the roads to and fro to boot. All assisted by taxpayer dollars in varying degrees…And You can debate the legitimacy of any project given priorities over the short ,near, and long term. But Simply Put?
It’s The Corruption, Stupid.
And given that we can’t support our greed at home,
it’s no wonder we’re hell bent on Confiscatory War abroad.
By the second half of 2009, we will probably have public recognition that much of the $7 trillion dollars committed by Paulson will simply be lost and will have to be paid by the US taxpayers. AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, purchase of second class assets by the Fed will lead the way to trillions of dollars of losses.
I’m not paying! I can’t! Simple as that! I am a turnip! A flat rubber tire! A squash’d mushroom! A crushed crumpet! LOL I was against all the bail outs!
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25. NYCO
Yup, like our hostess reported, I’m in the Cream City (called that for the color of the bricks used on many older buildings, believe it or not). Milwaukee, land of beer, cheese, Lavern, Shirley and the Bronze Fonz.
I’m very sorry to hear about the demise of Mr Megot du Truc-machin or whatever his name was, but the seemingly unstoppable collapse of capitalism is far more bizarre and pathetic than any socialist could ever have dreamt of.
I think Paulson understands perfectly well … he’s helping his buddies make off w/ the last of the loot, that’s all.
James on the spreading protests in Europe:
A sign of the times perhaps
The Jew-bashing that has suddenly erupted at this place is stupid and nasty, and puts Marisacat in a bad light. And yes, I’m looking at you, BHHM. Ugh.
Re: 50 – the article quoted by mattes. OF COURSE Hollywood is run by Jews. It was actually CREATED by Jews. For people who are so truly clueless about movie history that they don’t know about names like Mayer, Goldwyn, and Selznick, there’s a good book called An Empire of Their Own – How the Jews Invented Hollywood, by Neal Gabler.
Whether you think “Jews Control Hollywood!!!” is a bad thing or not is dependent on your opinion of Jews. I happen to like them.
I would hope that Marisacat likes them too, because San Francisco has a strong Jewish history as well. For example, Alice Toklas, who came from a longstanding Jewish family in SF. There is a nice story about her father from Gertrude Stein’s book on her. I will go hunt it up.
72 – you do understand that the “bashing” here is of those who USE judaism to run their scams, right? Money scams or genocide-of-Palestinian scams or perpetual-war-and-security scams …
The much more vibrant left and peace movement that I read about in Israel understands this … and I read far more critical things from publications there than anything that’s been posted HERE.
It seems to me that an uncurrent in all of Mcat’s stuff that I’ve been reading for five years now is the constant use of “identity” of one sort or another as a shield and cover to carry out crimes and carry forward bigotries … whether that be Pope Nazi or Made-off or the black preacher homophobes in CA.
I think you’re being deliberately obtuse.
69 CSTAR- yes, I also feel sorry about the suicide of the aristocratic French guy. I don’t know what his involvement with the Madoff scandal was, but evidently it was enough that his honor could not bear the disgrace. I wish there was more attention to honor among the powerful. When the hideous Enron scandal was unfolding, I thought, why aren’t any of the major players shooting themselves in the head? No, instead, they lawyered up. Forget honor. Survival is all.
Bush shoe-thrower tells of ordeal
snip
why aren’t any of the major players shooting themselves in the head?
There was one guy, Cliff Baxter, but some think he was murdered.
FBI Director Calls Cheney on Torture Lies
well honestly I hardly ever ”like” anyone… esp as the various games play out on the uneven playing field.
San Francisco certainly has a strong contingent of Jews, mostly secular and Reformed, various family names go back to the mid 1800s…… I live between the two synagogues… Temple Emanuel… and Sherith Beth Israel (where DiFi worships). At the Convent on Broadway, were I went to school, the Jewish children attended (including DiFi, 20 years ahead of me) as the secular private schools (Hamlin’s, Miss Burkes, Marin Country Day) shunned the Jewish children. That’s the old way of the cities… Italians, Jews and Irish (and thus Catholics and Jews) n some ways banded together, agaisnt the WASPs…. Just as Scalia and Ginsberg are diametric opposites on the SCOTUS but hang out together. They are comfortable and talk about food (from what I read of the hanging out on the SC).
I am wary of ALL groups that hang together, whether it is borderer machos creeps, like Webb, or the lousy Black Reverends now hung around our necks by a centrist neo liberal hardly new election… or for instance, the Elie Wiesel collection plate band wagon that comes to San Francisco annually. They trade on the Holocaust imo.
One reason I don’t have a lot of hope for America. Division. Tribalism. Religion. It’s digging in. It’s not getting better. And our alignment with the hard right in Israel… the US hard right is bad enough, but twinned… a nightmare. Our internal alignment iwth religion based on denial of humanity.
That’s where I stand.
People are free to say what they want to each other.
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72
you rock
eye wish we’d have gotten along better at pff (not that we didn’t particularly) or had talked more. you said something to me once that I blew off, but that I now understand. (eye won’t say what)
anywaze Happy Holidays!
where’s HCfM?
heh
I see the scum of PFF is still reading. Under whatever name.
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I think I read somewhere else that they’re bringing in 2 lox and 5 loaves of bread from NYC for him to feed the gathered masses on the Mall.
73- Madman, are you putting yourself in the position of defending everything that is posted on this blog? I thought i made it clear that it was BHHM’s comments that I was objecting to.
the constant use of “identity” of one sort or another as a shield and cover to carry out crimes and carry forward bigotries … whether that be Pope Nazi or Made-off or the black preacher homophobes in CA.
Are you really lumping them all together??
83 – I was defending Mcat, though I don’t think BHHM’s links rise to the level of Jew bashing … you did the lumping of the two:
I would hope that Marisacat likes them too, because San Francisco has a strong Jewish history as well.
I’m lumping together all of the fake tribalisms that are used to oppress other people … those are all variations on the same general con.
I was going to link to IOZ’s latest Pope mocking, but then I saw a tasty-looking foodie post, so I thought I’d send people there, first.
oh, not that Mcat needs me to defend her, but PC scolds get my hackles up … it’s a reflex.
well actually, looking up thread… the piece on Hollywood Jews was posted by mattes. Who I think responded to criticism of her posts back a thread or two. Not that I can keep up..
84 – oh sure, and your comment about “lox and bread from NYC” is certainly not flogging the fake tribalisms at all.
Mocking lox. Ha ha.
86 – Madman, would you care to point out what I wrote could be considered being a “PC scold” ?
Madman, can you get lox in Milwaukee?
I certainly couldn’t find it in the Twin Cities. Various forms of smoked fish, all in Scandinavian style, but nothing that was the same as real New York Jewish Lox.
pff moon reminds me of BHHM.
Just saying.
78 – MCat i agree. Well said. I am not a “group” or “ethnic” person either.
But the anti-semitic tone of the last couple of days was getting to me. There is plenty to be said about the situation without resorting to Jew-bashing.
New thread…
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well noom, moon and other sock shaped entities/$tooges were relentlessly pro-Israel. The Sharons, Begins, Olmerts and Tzipi Livnis could not move too hard core war and occupation for that sort.
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And memo to noom
HCfM is “spending some quality time iwth the family” in the fine tradition of minor pols and aides.
..I think MadM speaks for me. Tonight I am too tired to get into it. I’ll address “it” tomorrow.