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LOL 21 January 2009

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, 2010 Mid Terms, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, WAR!.


Snagged this pic from Politico, the tag there called it “Dawn over the Capitol”, it was taken at the Mid-Western States Ball.

I caught a news segment last night, a touring of various smallish, in peoples’ homes, parties to celebrate the new pretzel… Over and over I saw a framed image of Obster on display, propped on the fireplace mantle often, almost always a Fairey or Fairey derived image, dominating the room.

Whiff of Mao is all I can say.

And some non-helpful prattle that he “was born to lead us”… Over the past few days think I have heard that at least 100 times.  Anyone hear themselves?

Sorry to be blunt, that sort of thing just sets me off.  Couple of years ago I had so hoped to be rid of the God-ordained, Jesusing stuff.  From the Unitary.  Too many faithful R willing to say George was “selected by God”.

Pretty basic article at Politico, on seven reasons to be a skeptic.  VandeHei and Harris.  No 7 is (said in other words) that we have a tongue out, courtier 4th estate.  And how.  Loved hearing, just the past couple of days, media creeps anxious to say that they never liked Bush, nor he them.  But they sure facilitated.

From No 1 on the list:

[E]veryone was saying the exact same things about the two economic geniuses of the 1990s: Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan. Now Rubin has been reduced to making excuses for his involvement in high-risk investments and for helping oversee the demise of Citigroup, which lost $10 billion in the past three months alone. The onetime oracular Greenspan has admitted to Congress that his once-revered economic philosophy had “a flaw,” and many blame him for turning a blind eye to the housing bubble.

As it happens, the Obama economic team is full of Rubin protégés, including Geithner and Summers. Geithner had to recently admit he failed to pay taxes on a big chunk of income — as part of his confirmation process to run tax policy and the Internal Revenue Service. As president of the New York Fed, he was integrally involved in the decision not to rescue Lehman Bros., which many see, in retrospect, as a grievous error.

The reception of the Obama economic team recalls the reception of President George W. Bush’s foreign policy team eight years ago. Many Democrats applauded the experience of Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell.  …snipwhip…

Oh yes, Colin was to be the moderate.  He was perceived as “better”.  Why?  Anyone check his history? Just as hapless Americans assumed that Poodle Blair would “rein Bush in”.

Carry on… kiss the hem.

In related news, Podesta, CoS for the transition, is arguing that Obster keep not only his Blackberry… but internet and email access.

Oh.. Popcorn!  Tons of it.


1. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Intermittent Bystander posted this right at the end of the last hread… wanted to carry it forward:

Wall Street Journal execs got white-powder letters today, with Knoxville, TN, postmarks.

2. mattes - 21 January 2009

Talks to an empy room, mission accomplished

United Nations Briefing on the Situation in Gaza

John Holmes, Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and U.N. Emergency Coordinator; and John Ging, Director of Operations in Gaza for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East participated in a U.N. daily briefing on the situation in Gaza.


But alot of the foreign press, is all over the fact that Israel broke the ceasefire first, and rockets from Gaza did not fly till Israel put Gaza in quarantine in 2006.

3. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

BTW – Speaking of birthrights, etc., the Albany Times-Union blog noted that Princess Caroline was missing from the festivities yesterday, and it has a clip of Paterson chatting with Couric and Schiefer at CBS about the Hill replacement. The T-U blogger called the interview a “fan dance,” but among other remarks, Paterson said he still hasn’t completely decided (and wishes the pick weren’t up to him), expressed his dismay that all the hoopla about one candidate had crowded out public discussion of many others, elected and unelected, and acknowledged that Cuomo, Maloney, and 8 or 10 others were among those worthies still in the running.

4. catnip - 21 January 2009

re: the halo picture

I noticed yesterday that one of the preachers said of Obama, “he’s got the whole world in his hands” and I saw a clip this am of the church service where a choir sang that song and the teevee talking head said that was appropriate for Obamalama. Well, when I learned that song “his hands” meant “G*d’s hands”.

5. marisacat - 21 January 2009

We are dripping in Jesusing. Was not kidding about wishing I could drink. All the slobber that Only God Could Make White People Vote for Obama. From Lowery and others… Rev Fauntroy.. is another, from the CR era. It all smacks of flim flam.

That said, I did like the patois poetry, so called prophetic tradition from Lowery yesterday, that has some up in arms today. Offended by words like “red” “brown” ”yellow” and so on. I thought it was one fo the few minutes of truth.

Other than that, people DID enjoy the day, so did Ob and so did Mrs Ob. Which is fine. AND SO WHAT? Is my feeling. I am not on earth to bolster the already bolstered.


I did see this in a thread at Lenin and laughed out loud…

Oh I give in! Barack Obama makes me wanna smoke crack. Fall out of the window and I’m never comin back, and everything’s perfect, and everything’s bright, and everyone’s perky, and everyone’s uptight, because: Barack Obama makes me wanna smoke crack…

Repeat until denounced.

Roobin | Homepage | 21 Jan, 17:12 | #

You know speaking of the Mao whifferies and so on………..



Think Holder is being held up as well…

6. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Leahy just called the Holder nom “historic”

SO OVER with the bullshit. It’s NOT.

7. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

4 – Noticed that “whole world in his hands” cheeziness this morning too. (And you know the little bitty babies are the next thing mentioned in the song, too, right?)

(::Wipes barf-speckled shoes.::)

On the bright side, I thought the dude who sang (the obligatory) Amazing Grace did a damn nice job of it. To be fair, the Obsters seemed much more into that one, too, I thought.

Funny watching the priests and cardinals and whatever enduring the various wimmens who spoke at the pulpit. Har-de-har-har boys! As one of my sisters is wont to say, Suck it up and deal!

8. marisacat - 21 January 2009

IHT on the banking minuet. So screwed!

That leaves the third and increasingly talked-about approach – have the government buy the toxic assets and put them into a government-financed “bad bank” or an “aggregator bank.”

The immediate virtue of the bad bank is that the remaining “good bank” would have a clean balance sheet, unburdened by the uncertainty of future losses from bad loans and securities.

Richard Berner, chief economist at Morgan Stanley, described the “bad bank” strategy as the “least bad” of available options. The main advantage, Berner said, is that the government would have to decide how much it was willing to pay for the toxic assets. In turn, that would make it easier for the public to figure out whether the government was overpaying.

Banks may not want that kind of openness, because accurately valuing the toxic assets could pressure many to book big losses, admit their insolvency and shut down.

Who knows.

9. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Ho ho. More discomfiture among the Godfathers!

Went looking for the Amazing Grace singer’s name and look what I found instead, first thing: Orthodox group: Rabbi violated rules by joining National Prayer Service.

A Rabbinical Council of America official told JTA that Rabbi Haskel Lookstein, the religious leader of Congregation Kehilath Jeshurun in New York City, broke the organization’s rules by participating in the service Wednesday at the National Cathedral on the morning after Barack Obama’s inauguration.

“The long-standing policy of the Rabbinical Council of America, in accordance with Jewish law, is that participation in a prayer service held in the sanctuary of a church is prohibited,” the RCA said in a statement. “Any member of the RCA who attends such a service does so in contravention of this policy and should not be perceived as representing the organization in any capacity.”

The RCA said that Lookstein’s participation was problematic both because the service was held in the sanctuary of a church, which Orthodox Jews are prohibited from entering, and because it was an interfaith prayer service, which the RCA discourages for fear that such participation could allow missionaries to legitimize their argument that Jews can indeed embrace Jesus.

10. catnip - 21 January 2009

Geithner didn’t seem fond of the “good bank”, “bad bank” scenario this am. I had no idea what they were talking about at the time.

7. I just had CNN on in the background, muted while I listened to the Geithner hearing but I saw the choir singing and wanted to find out what the song was. I had no use for the rest of the show. Church is church and it seems the older and more atheist I get (if that’s possible), the more bizarre those ancient rituals appear.

11. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009


Lookstein, who read a religiously neutral statement scripted by National Prayer Service organizers, called the experience very moving.

He also met Obama after the reading and recited to the new president the blessing Jews say when they come into the presence of a king — only after Obama gave him permission.

“I thanked him for his support of Israel and I urged him to remember the unforgettable statement he made in Sderot, where he said, ‘If anybody would shoot rockets into my house while my daughters were sleeping, I would do anything in my power to make sure they wouldn’t do it again,’ ” Lookstein said. “He responded with a clear assent.”

12. catnip - 21 January 2009


the sanctuary of a church, which Orthodox Jews are prohibited from entering, and because it was an interfaith prayer service, which the RCA discourages for fear that such participation could allow missionaries to legitimize their argument that Jews can indeed embrace Jesus.

Oh FFS. Get over yourselves. Sheesh.

So what happens to the errant rabbi?

Pack your bags. You’re going on a guilt trip.

13. catnip - 21 January 2009


blessing Jews say when they come into the presence of a king — only after Obama gave him permission.

What is this? Fantasy Island?

I need a nap.

14. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Tapper has a whole entry on the prayer service this am. Pretty stultifying, imo. But go for it.

He also found the FF (First Family) a pair of shelter Golden Doodles, out of state. Apparently Golden Doodles don’t necessarily come up all that much in the shelters. LOL it was my thought some weeks ago, get two dogs. Two girls two dogs.

A UK paper as well is saying, get going on that dog.

15. marisacat - 21 January 2009

oh FFS

“I thanked him for his support of Israel and I urged him to remember the unforgettable statement he made in Sderot, where he said, ‘If anybody would shoot rockets into my house while my daughters were sleeping, I would do anything in my power to make sure they wouldn’t do it again,’ ” Lookstein said. “He responded with a clear assent.”

Over and over he gives the militaristic right what they want. Just like Prop 8.

16. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

President Obama To Sign Executive Order Thursday to Close Gitmo Within a Year [4:20 p.m. ET]

LOL Just a few days ago they were floating “four years”.

17. mattes - 21 January 2009

“This is my first phone call to a foreign leader and I’m making it only hours after I took office,” he quoted Obama as telling Abbas.


18. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

14 – Thanks. Tapper piece sez Amazing Grace was performed by Dr. Wintley Phipps, President of the U.S. Dream Academy in Columbia, Maryland.

Don’t think my high-school guidance counselor ever mentioned that institution!

Anyway, I see a video his rendition today is available here: Link.

19. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Surely they’ll hold the doggie debut for a news week when they really need it?

20. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

catnap at 13 – Someone in the comments at the JTA site agrees with you.

C. Sherman

01/21/09 01:36 PM

I don’t have a problem with the rabbi attending the church for this kind of service, but I do have a problem with the giving of a blessing on meeting a king. Our president is not a king, and this whole hyped up meshougah inauguration has been so over-the-top, with terms such as messiah being thrown around, it is disgusting.

21. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

More on Phipps at Wiki. (A Trinidad-Tobagan Seventh Day Adventist who moved to Montreal in his youth, and quite the bipartisan speaker and performer, as well as Songs of Freedom music publisher/recording co.)

U.S. Dream Academy, Inc

In 1998, Phipps founded and created the U.S. Dream Academy, Inc., a non-profit organization dedicated to providing a values-based, interactive, tutorial and remedial education program targeted at children and youth-at-risk through community Family Learning Centers located in various states. Seeing a need, Phipps wanted something to help break the cycle he saw played out so many times in his own family. Wintley formed the U.S. Dream Academy to help children who’ve had a family member behind bars. The program provides mentoring, academic tutoring, and exposure to computers and the Internet. Wintley says, “Just the computers themselves are not going to transform the lives of these kids,” and “The most important part of our program is really the caring, loving adults who surround them.”

The academy has garnered recognition from Oprah Winfrey and former President Bill Clinton.

22. marisacat - 21 January 2009


That’s my guess on the doggie policy as well. They may not be able to work the pecs in but they can work in the marriage, the girls AND the doggie.

It will be a while… Mother and Father earlier said “maybe spring”. Lotta chit chat about house training. Diversion, there is pet staff as well.

23. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Senate Confirms Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State [4:32 p.m. ET]

so now just toe tapping on Holder and Geithner?

24. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Someone, somewhere is probably breeding Golden Doodles at 2-week intervals as we speak. How hard could it be to launder a couple of puppies through an animal shelter once the call comes through on the Snoopyphone?


Still, they really oughta go with a mutt. Healing via DNA, dontchaknow!

25. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

From the TU:

By a vote of 94-2, the chamber confirmed Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. as secretary of state. The two opponents were Sens. David Vitter, R-La., and Jim DeMint, R-S.C.

26. marisacat - 21 January 2009

It’s been my take the Obsters, tall class, actually don’t want a dog. But were told it would be worthwhile to co-opt the children likely begging for one (I mean, NO PETS IN THAT HOUSE, none) and go for it… but that there is no enthusiasm.

it will be a while.. and yes they sure could launder a convenient labragoldendoodle thru a shelter. I imagine Tapper has thought of that one, tho I sure did not…

27. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

From updated AP story:

The FBI in Knoxville said another letter with powder and a Knoxville postmark was received at Harvard Law School, addressed to political commentator Alan Dershowitz. He recently published an opinion piece in the Journal defending Israel’s actions in Gaza. It wasn’t immediately clear if Dershowitz was at Harvard when the letter arrived.

The Journal is published by Dow Jones & Co., a division of the media and entertainment company News Corp.

The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces in New York and Knoxville in partnership with the United States Postal Inspection Service were investigating the incidents. The Department of Homeland Security was monitoring the situation.


A little something for your afternoon coffee, Mcat.

28. marisacat - 21 January 2009

oh I forgot about Frangelico… I could try that… I think i am down to the sugared cordials… The sugar likely swamps the liquor…


29. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

28 – Well, if that’s your working theory, you have your choice of fine monastic spirits!

(I’m on the hypoglycemic side myself, so things like cordials and rum and bourbon tend to do me in.)

30. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Rogoff on TNH… that the Obster crew were ginger about the details of their economic plans “for fear of sparking a PANIC, before being in place to deal with it”.

So much reform. Reform the reform. Decry the damned Bail Out which was a CON… to sell the next con.

Could someone just fucking fix it? However long it takes.

Now they are talking about “how fast the economy is deteriorating”.

Gotcha. Please catch up… Please?

31. NYCO - 21 January 2009

Had some… interesting private exchanges with several people today that really make me wonder about a speculation I once had… that after Bush, the free speech climate in this country is just going to continue to worsen.

People seem to feel just as disinclined to say what they really feel these days, as they did right after 9/11. Maybe we’ve exchanged one form of oppressive jingoism for another flavor.

32. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Too damned weird… Telegraph, on a town in Paraquay where Mengele kept on with twin experiments.. producing twins at least.

33. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Maybe we’ve exchanged one form of oppressive jingoism for another flavor.

People are inured to it by now.. and there is an undercurrent of “Don’t contribute to Obama failing, we are in deep trouble. Hush up”. there is even an undertone of “Don’t HURT him”… as if criticising him is wounding him.

I am more interested in PEOPLE not being wounded.

And you know, he is God.

34. marisacat - 21 January 2009


I will definitely look into it….and while i never favored the sugar cordials.. any sugared port in a storm. Awful to lose wine, beer champagne and Campari. gah.

35. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Chartreuse has a very herbal, almost medicinal flavor – not to everyone’s taste – and it’s definitely downright sticky in the sugar dept. I seem to recall it producing a slightly otherworldly buzz (appropriately enough). Probably not an ideal flavor for spiking coffee.

But the history – like the liquids, green or yellow – is very colorful!

According to tradition a marshal of artillery to French king Henri IV, François Hannibal d’Estrées, presented the Carthusian monks at Vauvert, near Paris, with an alchemical manuscript that contained a recipe for an “elixir of long life” in 1605.[1] The recipe eventually reached the religious order’s headquarters at the Grande Chartreuse monastery, in Voiron, near Grenoble. It has since then been used to produce the “Elixir Végétal de la Grande Chartreuse”. The formula is said to call for 130 herbs, flowers, and secret ingredients combined in a wine alcohol base. The monks intended their liqueur to be used as medicine. The recipe was further enhanced in 1737 by Brother Gérome Maubec.

The beverage soon became popular, and in 1764 the monks adapted the elixir recipe to make what is now called Green Chartreuse. In 1793 the monks were expelled from France, and manufacture of the liqueur ceased. Several years later they were allowed to return. In 1838 they developed Yellow Chartreuse, a sweeter, 40% alcoholic (80° proof) liqueur, colored with saffron.

The monks were again expelled from the monastery following a change in French law in 1903, and their real property, including the distillery, was confiscated by the government. The monks took their secret recipe to their refuge in Tarragona, Spain, and began producing their liqueurs with the same label, but with an additional label which said Liqueur fabriquée à Tarragone par les Pères Chartreux (“liquor manufactured in Tarragona by the Carthusian Fathers”).

At the same time in Voiron a corporation owning the Chartreuse assets produced without benefit of the monks’ recipe a liqueur which they sold as Chartreuse, but all attempts to reproduce real Chartreuse failed; sales were very poor, and by 1927 the production company was facing bankruptcy, and its shares became nearly worthless. A group of local businessmen in Voiron bought all the shares at a low price and sent them as a gift to the monks in Tarragona.

After regaining possession of the distillery the Carthusian brothers returned to the monastery with the tacit approval of the French government, and began to produce Chartreuse once again. Despite the eviction law, when a mudslide destroyed the distillery in 1935 the French government assigned Army engineers to relocate and rebuild it at a location near Voiron where the monks had previously set up a distribution point. After World War II the government lifted the expulsion order, making the Carthusian brothers once again legal French residents.

Today the liqueurs are produced in Voiron using the herbal mixture prepared by three monks at the Grande Chartreuse. Other related alcoholic beverages are manufactured in the same distillery (e.g. Génépi). The exact recipes for all forms of Chartreuse remain trade secrets and are known at any given time only to the three monks who prepare the herbal mixture.[citation needed] The herb hyssop is one of the most obvious major constituents of the flavor.

Other options for coffee, of course, are the usual Irish and Mexican suspects. And there’s a Greek liquor made from wine and brandy and herbs (including rose petals) called Metaxa, which is rather nice.

Good luck!

36. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Whoa . . . . breaaakkkking . . . . CSPAN just had a banner saying Caroline is pulling her name from contention for US Senate, and NYT is confirming. Teddy’s health is the reason given.

37. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Kennedy Is Said to Withdraw Senate Bid.

Caroline Kennedy has withdrawn from consideration for the vacant Senate seat in New York, according to a person told of her decision.

On Wednesday she called the governor, David Paterson, who is making the selection of who should succeed Senator Hillary Clinton. Her concerns about Senator Edward M. Kennedy’s deteriorating health (he was hospitalized after a seizure during the inaugural lunch on Tuesday ) prompted her decision to withdraw, this person said. Coping with the health issues of her uncle, with whom she enjoys an extraordinarily close bond, was her most important priority; a situation not conducive to starting a high profile public job.

If true, NYCO and lucid, we may have dodged a dynasty!

38. NYCO - 21 January 2009

Yeah just read it, IB…

I’m sorry about Teddy’s worsening health problems; however, it does make excellent cover for her to not have to face the embarrassment of not being picked. Things didn’t go as planned and arranged…

When are carpetbaggers going to realize… trying to invade New York is like trying to invade Mother Russia. She should have talked to William Weld first.

Unless you’re Hillary, of course.

39. marisacat - 21 January 2009

LOL That is such a load of hokum from Missy C.

Good lord.

Anything to be rid of dynasty tho. Blessed we are!

40. marisacat - 21 January 2009


yeah Chartreuse is not my cup of tea… too intense a flavor, iirc from a long long time ago… Will take a peek at the Liqueur section at Safeway… trying to pull myself together for a delivery tomorrow.

41. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

excellent cover for her to not have to face the embarrassment of not being picked

Ding ding ding!

Call the Trinity Church bellringers! Let’s have another full peeeeeeeeeal!

42. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

LOL re William Weld!

43. marisacat - 21 January 2009

I wondered if she might get it just on that big promotion of being a friend of Obster… apparently not.

44. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Well, I just checked the Big Orange Buoy Ball, and kos has a NY Post link for this snippet:

Her stunning move comes as sources revealed that Paterson had intended to appoint her to the now-vacant seat today.

But that could easily be Bloombergian cover-smog.

(Surprising number of commenters in thread saying too bad, etc. Kid kos is tickled nearly pink, I’m sure, and says he’s got fingers crossed for anybody-but-Andrew Cuomo, too, for maximum democraceeeee in 2010.)

45. catnip - 21 January 2009

excellent cover for her to not have to face the embarrassment of not being picked

My first thought too.

46. marisacat - 21 January 2009


Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Obama Takes Oath of Office a Second Time, Because of Chief Justice Roberts’ Mistake [7:54 p.m. ET]

47. NYCO - 21 January 2009
48. NYCO - 21 January 2009

Obama Takes Oath of Office a Second Time, Because of Chief Justice Roberts’ Mistake

oh brother! Oh well, I suppose Rush has got to throw away his playbook for the next 4 years now.

49. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

47 – Apparently it ain’t only cousins that are the last to know!

Paterson, the source said, told Kerry Kennedy “he hasn’t heard it and he’s made no decision that would provoke her to leave. He said he’s been getting calls and denying it.”

Go New York State!


Re O’Bama – smooth move with the oath-cakes!

50. NYCO - 21 January 2009

Apparently Ms Caroline is “AWOL”…


According to multiple sources, the candidate is AWOL at the moment, and everyone close to her is blindsided by this bombshell. It appears someone might have jumped the gun early, and this news might not be, well, news.

51. catnip - 21 January 2009

Apparently, Fareed Zakaria doesn’t think the O administration can walk and chew gum at the same time – saying on CNN that Obama shouldn’t jump into the ME peace process (fix the economy first) and that he’d be wise not to stake his “prestige” on it unless he’s going to spend his capital by putting his foot down and spelling out the “final” (my way or the highway) peace plan immediately. (Like he’d do that.)

52. NYCO - 21 January 2009

Well I hope Miss Caroline makes up her mind soon because the news is spreading across every New York newspaper website like a prairie flame. Very interesting… Nobody does clusterfuck like the Empire State! Nobody!

53. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

mattes – 21 January 2009

Breaking: Iglesias to prosecute
terror cases

Madman…comments? Good right?

He seemed to be a pretty straight shooter, and ethical, but it would be hard to tell without a lot more research.

The government mistreated those people so badly that there is no way to make any kind of remotely legal prosecution. All they can do is try to find a place to move them, IF they’re serious about ending and making up for Gitmo, and that’s a BIG if.

54. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Maybe she’s on a Mediterranean island with a hot European royal!

Calling the papa ratzies! Or Papa Ratzy! Quick!

55. marisacat - 21 January 2009

From the NYDN link that NYCO posted (the one at commetn 47).. it sure sounded as tho Paterson was not discouraging spec in the past few days, even with Dem party people, that she was the likely pick. hmm.

Wonder what is up.

It is fully national news, was on the local 5pm news here. Not getting that cat back in the bag.

56. NYCO - 21 January 2009

Shee… now MSNBC reporting she hasn’t withdrawn. What a clusterfuck! Paterson cannot pick her now, he simply cannot.

Please Paterson, just go with Cuomo or Suozzi and be done with it.

57. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Awww. It’s just like Cinderella!

Or something.

New Theory! Maybe this is a roooooose! Nice little kefuffle to buy the Obster some time on, you know, World Peace!

58. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Code Name: Amazing Diss Grace.

59. catnip - 21 January 2009

Hmmm…maybe somebody out there coughcouchCuomocoughcough thought it might be a good idea if Caroline spent more time with her family and leaked the idea.

60. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Apologies for blathericity today and please be assured, all, that I won’t be this chatty going forward. I’m just a little hopped up with this new spirit of helping out and doing my part

to ruin aforementioned Empire State

this very morning.

That said, have to say the web routine for filing a claim was far less painful than I remember the old phone menu system, the first (aka last) time I had to (literally) call on the jobborific insurance. Was dreading a repeat of same.

(::Sends ms_xeno promised Wednesday bottle of peppermint schnapps, with a bonus box of fine cocoa as reward for her 2-hour gubmint telephone travail..::)

61. NYCO - 21 January 2009

Ya know? Paterson should just pick his friend. He should pick Suozzi. Suozzi is known statewide, he had good exposure campaigning against Spitzer (another plus!), I don’t know about his legislative temperament (he’d make a better governor frankly) but when times get tough you can count on your personal friends.

62. catnip - 21 January 2009

60. The state’s fund is broke? Wow. I didn’t even know you did EI by state down there. Ours is federal.

I heard the other day that Oregon’s unemployment rate is 9%. That seems awfully high.

63. NYCO - 21 January 2009

The NYT is not altering their story online. Oh, they have to be taking tons of shit from The Compound for that.

My theory: Caroline really wants out. Is too afraid to tell The Family. Maybe was even going to call Paterson. But too scared. Now she’s on the run, going middle age crazy in Uncle Teddy’s red Ferrari. No one can find her. No one will ever find her. Her long golden hair streams in the January breeze. She knows she could catch pneumonia and die, but she just doesn’t care anymore. Just. Doesn’t. Care. Something in her broke loose tonight, loose and free like a scared wild bird…

64. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Apologies for blathericity today and please be assured, all, that I won’t be this chatty going forward.

Please.. post just as you like… 🙂

65. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

46 – the funny thing, according to Nina Totenberg on NPR when I was listening this morning, is that several Presidents didn’t actually recite the oath, merely saying “I will” after the Chief Justice read it, and many believe that the Oath isn’t really necessary since the 20th Amendment passed.

According to Wikipedia, it’s been been flubbed before.

My fav?

John Quincy Adams swore on a book of law.

Fuck all this imaginary friend bullshit.

66. marisacat - 21 January 2009

60, 62

CA Unemployemtn Insur probably broke in a few weeks. They told us about 4 months ago, it might make it to Feb.

And the layoffs roll on.

67. marisacat - 21 January 2009


Our official unemployment rate in CA is nearly 9%. Lower in the Bay Area but state wide that high

68. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Accidental smiley at 60! No grin intended there.

63 – Thanks, as always, for the hospitality.

Madman – and lucid and others – the conversation here last night about the inauguration covered a lot of familiar-ly mixed territory for me, as well. The respect for (and sadness associated with) others’ rightful claims for celebrating the White House ENTRANCE, the deep (and bitterly long-awaited) satisfaction (spit!) upon THE EXIT (much eclipsed by the entering fanfare), etc. I think all of that contributed to my own reaction of utter exhaustion last night, once I knew it was really done.

Don’t know if anyone mentioned it here, or if it’s been fully verified by the records today, but I saw several TV heads say the inauguration went off without a single incident resulting in arrest.

Too bad none of those same TV heads had the wits (or spine) to note the irony, given the outgoing administration’s many documented crimes. . . . but as people pointed out last night, maybe there’s hope for international proceedings.

As for domestic repercussions, I saw that Atrios had an item today indicating that Levin will be in charge of Post-BushCo investigations.
Not encouraging.

Anyway, it was good to read all your words the next morning.

69. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

Calls for open source government

The secret to a more secure and cost effective government is through open source technologies and products.

The claim comes from one of Silicon Valley’s most respected business leaders Scott McNealy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems.

He revealed he has been asked to prepare a paper on the subject for the new administration.

“It’s intuitively obvious open source is more cost effective and productive than proprietary software,” he said.

“Open source does not require you to pay a penny to Microsoft or IBM or Oracle or any proprietary vendor any money.”


Mr McNealy told the BBC he wants to ensure the government does not get “locked in” to one specific vendor or company.

“The government ought to mandate open source products based on open source reference implementations to improve security, get higher quality software, lower costs, higher reliability – all the benefits that come with open software.

Sun Microsystems’ Java programming language is an open source product used in billions of devices such as mobile phones and computers. Instead of charging for a copyrighted programme, by and large any open source product is publicly available, is licensed under royalty free terms for unrestricted use and has an open code for all to see, copy and adapt for free.

The idea behind this is that the thinking of many will improve a product by leaps and bounds and keep it relevant.

A report by global technology research house XMG said companies “were exploring the advantages of open source software” due to the “prohibitive” cost of proprietary products.

70. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

67 – one good thing about yesterday, the video of the crowd singing “hey hey hey, goodbye” as that fucking war criminal took off in the helicopter. Made me laugh.

71. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

64 – I vote for a phone book or dictionary, just to make the point. Or how ’bout an Atlas of the nation? Scale it down a little.

72. NYCO - 21 January 2009

New info on NYT…

Just before 7 p.m. Wednesday, Errol Cockfield, Mr. Paterson’s press secretary, said the governor had referred to the assertion that Ms. Kennedy was withdrawing as “just the rumor of the day.” More than an hour later, Mr. Cockfield asked that that statement not be published, but neither he nor the governor’s communications director, Risa B. Heller, would respond to questions about Ms. Kennedy.


73. catnip - 21 January 2009

lol… Dad’s grow-op busted after baby dials 9-1-1

WHITE ROCK–A B.C. man probably wishes he had given his 11-month-old son a set of keys to play with instead of a phone, after the infant accidentally dialled 9-1-1 and brought police to dad’s marijuana grow operation.

Mounties say a 9-1-1 call came in from a White Rock, B.C. residence Friday morning but whoever was on the other end of the line hung up.

Officers arrived at the residence and after numerous knocks on the door went unanswered, they entered the home.

“The gentleman was quite surprised,” said White Rock RCMP Const. Janelle Canning.

She said the 29-year-old male, startled by the sudden sight of police, insisted he hadn’t made the call.

When it was suggested a child might have dialled, the father objected and said his son was far too young.

That’s when police spotted the baby boy, phone in hand.

“We saw him playing with the cordless phone and just pressing all the buttons, so evidently he had called 9-1-1,” Canning said.

With that mystery solved, officers began inspecting the residence and soon discovered a 500-plant marijuana grow operation.

The father was arrested and will appear in court in early April on charges of production of a controlled substance and mischief.

The boy was removed from the home by the Ministry of Children and Family Development, though he was later released into his mother’s custody.

The mother does not live in the residence and Canning says she had no idea what was going on at the home.

74. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Give me a C! Give me an L! Give me a U- S – T – E – R!


But NYCO, don’t you agree that this has to get a lot juicier before it ranks up there with Spitzer’s sky-scrapin’ dive?

Where are the photos?

I wanna see the hot European royal! Extra points for a Monagasque prince! Let’s get Grace Kelly in the mix. Fuggedaboud the Windsors already.

75. catnip - 21 January 2009

TDS was good last nite – a welcome laugh to end the day. I was going to post a link to Stewart’s skewering of Obamalama’s speech but videos for we canucks show up on a different site. You yanks can find it on the show’s site.

76. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

With that mystery solved, officers began inspecting the residence and soon discovered a 500-plant marijuana grow operation.

Excuse me? Did they have a warrant for satisfying their curiosity about any other little thing? Or did stoner pop just let ’em wander?

You know that baby is never gonna live this down! Good memoir potential, though. I Was a Narc in Diapers.

77. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

re CKS …Funny thing is- they could flip this story around tomorrow, use it to reintroduce her, come out as a “fighter” for her ‘family values” blah blah blah, Ob say she answered “the call” in his campaign, yadayada…

The real question, as far as I’m concerned,
is what it will do to my blog reputation…LOL.

78. NYCO - 21 January 2009

IB, nothing could ever top Spitzer in the annals.

I will never forget the complete and total sensation of “What The Fuck” I felt at the moment I read it. Wow!

79. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

Oh, Suuurrrrreee they are:

DOJ Giving ‘Serious Thought’ to Probing Bush’s Torture Policy

The Department of Justice is giving “serious thought” to a recommendation proposed by a leading Democratic lawmaker to appoint a special counsel to conduct a criminal probe into the interrogation practices enacted during the Bush administration, according to three DOJ lawyers.

These DOJ attorneys said consideration is being given to the idea of expanding a special prosecutor’s current investigation into the destruction of the CIA’s torture tapes to include a probe into the interrogation methods, such as waterboarding, that are depicted on the tapes to determine whether federal torture laws were broken. U.S. Attorney John Durham, who was appointed by former Attorney General Michael Mukasey last year to investigate the destruction of the CIA’s torture tapes had only been given the authority to probe the destruction of the tapes.

Congress asked Mukasey last year to expand his investigation to include whether the interrogation methods shown on the videotapes violated international and federal laws, but Mukasey rebuffed the request.

The DOJ attorneys, who spoke to me several times over the past two weeks, requested anonymity because they were not given authority to speak publicly.

Fearing that the Justice Department may be working to launch a criminal probe into the Bush administration’s interrogation practices, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee have delayed a vote to confirm Holder Attorney General because of statements he made during his confirmation hearing last week that waterboarding was torture.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said he wants to ask Holder whether he intends to investigate the Bush administration and intelligence officials for torture.

Cornyn said Holder’s view that waterboarding is illegal under anti-torture laws means there is a possibility investigations may be on the horizon.

“Part of my concern, frankly, relates to some of his statements at the hearing in regard to torture and what his intentions are with regard to intelligence personnel who were operating in good faith based upon their understanding of what the law was,” Cornyn said Wednesday.

That view was shared by Mukasey, who, prior to his exit from the Justice Department, told the Wall Street Journal last week that he is worried that government lawyers and others who assisted the Bush administration in crafting interrogation policies are at risk of criminal prosecution now that Holder has defined waterboarding as torture.

“Torture is a crime,” Mukasey told the Journal, adding that he worried “about the effect on…the work of fine intelligence lawyers who are called on to make judgments on questions like that, often under tremendous time pressure — not to mention the pressure of an attack that killed 3000 people [and caused worry that] maybe there was going to be another one.”

80. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

Special counsel in moderation, I think.

81. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009
82. catnip - 21 January 2009

66. Our official unemployment rate in CA is nearly 9%. Lower in the Bay Area but state wide that high

I thought Ahnold was going to fix everything. Are you telling me that he turned out to be one of those economic girly men?

83. Intermittent Bystander - 21 January 2009

Last I heard, Ahnuld was gonna quit signing unemployment and disability checks altogether, thanks to fiscal crisis.

Did he get over himself on that idea yet?

Your ass is definitely on the line, BHHM. But don’t you dare try to tap any old-school Hail Mary juju for Caroline, or I’m never speaking to you again.

84. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009


Subsumed beneath an overwrought paean to national character and responsibility is the notion that only through centralization can crises of such magnitude be met and bested. This is precisely the wrong lesson to draw. Each of our current crises, whether imperial overreach or economic calamities, are at root problems of scale. If you really wanted more a more flexible, resilient, and self-sustaining economy, you would seek means to increase regional and local enterprise at the expense of State-subsidized national and transnational corporations; you would notice, for instance, that most small banks are doing just fine, and you’d let Citigroup go belly-up.

85. catnip - 21 January 2009

80. Last I heard, Ahnuld was gonna quit signing unemployment and disability checks altogether, thanks to fiscal crisis.

WTF? And what would happen to the needy recipients then? Or was he trying to force the feds’ hands?

86. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

LOL. IB Your ass is definitely on the line, BHHM. But don’t you dare try to tap any old-school Hail Mary juju for Caroline, or I’m never speaking to you again.

Patterson better fuckin nominate her.
Or I’m gonna be shipwrecked, marooned with DavefromQueens somewhere crying over what might have been…
Then, Israel would come up…LOL.

87. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

Religion is a mental illness, example umpity million:

Russians Strengthen Their Faith and a Tradition With an Icy Water Plunge

MOSCOW — In the snowy silence of a Moscow park, a 26-year-old businessman named Aleksandr Pushkov stood naked except for his Speedo, a column of steam rising from his body. His clothes were piled under a tree, and he had just climbed out of a hole in the ice.

It was his seventh year taking part in the Epiphany ritual: the trance-like preparation, the electric shock of the water and the 20- or 30-second wait for a feeling he described as “nirvana.” As cross-country skiers picked their way through the woods, Mr. Pushkov stood by himself, barefoot and steaming. The midday sun was just visible above the horizon, as white and remote as a full moon.

Monday was Russian Orthodox Epiphany, and roughly 30,000 Muscovites lined up to dunk themselves in icy rivers and ponds, city officials said. The annual ritual baptism, which is believed to wash away sins, is enjoying a boisterous revival after being banished to villages during the Soviet era.

These days, it is a ritual with high production values. Several sites in Moscow were furnished with no-slip carpeting, heated tents and supervisors with megaphones. Politicians have seized on it as a photo opportunity; the theatrical ultranationalist Vladimir V. Zhirinovsky took his plunge this year at Bottomless Lake, a Moscow River tributary, flanked by 15-foot tubes of fluorescent light.

“It has become a show — not only that, but a patriotic show,” said Boris F. Dubin, a sociologist with Moscow’s Levada Center. The immersion ritual satisfies a public hunger, he said, for “something that is truly Russian, ancient, real. For what distinguishes us from other people.”

88. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

IB, more LOL

I have no doubt this ,eh, somewhat modified Hail Mary
is currently making it rounds…….

Hail Mary Full of Grace,
The Lord is with Thee.
Blessed Art thou among Women.

But right fuckin now,
We need you to smote down those
-forgive me Fruit of the Womber-
In The ___________________Camp,
(fill in Kennedy or Cuomo as the case may be)…

And so forth….LOL.

89. NYCO - 21 January 2009

So what would you call the people who take ice water plunges for no reason at all? Sane? 🙂

90. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 January 2009

they’re nuts too!

91. marisacat - 21 January 2009


One from BHHM, one from IB and two from Madman… out of Moderation…

sorry for the delay…………….

92. marisacat - 21 January 2009

Israel accused of executing parents in front of children in Gaza

Israel has refuted allegations of war atrocities in Gaza after Palestinian children described how their parents had been “executed” by Israeli troops.

93. diane - 21 January 2009

Marisa have you tried Ouzo or Tuaca? (I like both on ice, or chilled).

94. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

CKS out , super duper confirmeth MSNBC…Crickets on WaPo yet…

LOL. I also thought Iowa was going to go Edwards, Ob, then Hillary.

95. catnip - 21 January 2009
96. marisacat - 21 January 2009

thanks diane… not tasted ouzo in a long long time and never tried tuaca… will give it a look… 😯


caroline, in, out, round about. apparently, so the story goes, she wavered after releasing a press release. But now is out.

Geesh, spared a loon.

97. marisacat - 21 January 2009


at least the poodle puddle did not make Chirac sneeze!

98. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

For my next prediction, I see her taking Teddy’s seat in Mass.
Do I mean in Church or New England?
Could go either way. LOL.

99. catnip - 21 January 2009

Schumer & Tapper on Charlie Rose. I just switched over there and luckily missed most of Schumy. (Can I call him that? Schumy?)

100. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

This last line from Politico on the Caroline delusterfuck….

Paterson is likely to make an announcement on Friday, before the Jewish sabbath, to allow Speaker Sheldon Silver to attend, according to several New York Democrats also speaking on condition of anonymity

101. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

(Can I call him that? Schumy?)

You wouldn’t want to be anti-Schumytic now, would you?

102. catnip - 21 January 2009

Obama’s press secretary is one of the Bee Gees? K3wl.

103. marisacat - 21 January 2009


Good one!

My mother many years ago pounced on some comment Jackie made in an interview, asked what JFK might have done if he lost in ’60 (tho cash in shoeboxes made sure he did not, LOL) and she sort of distractedly said, “Oh, I suppose, write another book”.

So… there is a thought for Miss C.

Love how high office is such a desultory endeavor for them. mmm maybe I will, or … I won’t… Maybe they could all help us out and stay in bed, reading novels and eating bon bons.

104. catnip - 21 January 2009

You wouldn’t want to be anti-Schumytic now, would you?

pa dum pum 😀

105. marisacat - 21 January 2009

From the politico story on Caroline:

In particular, the governor’s counsel had become increasingly frustrated with Kennedy’s interactions with his office and had become annoyed by her use of lawyers as intermediaries when they asked follow-up questions on a 28-page questionnaire Paterson sent candidates, the person said.

106. BooHooHooMan - 21 January 2009

Well, if you’re gonna botch it – Botch it BIG. LMAO.

107. marisacat - 21 January 2009

What a fucked up mess. A round of lackluster Democrats pointing fingers over a failed, never really started, ended with a sput-sput-sputter nothing run.

Could someone blame The Lady Caroline for being incomprehensible and assuming something she was unfit for (you’ve got to be able to go out and meet people, to some extent) was hers. Geesh.

New York Democrats expressed concern Wednesday that Paterson’s rebuff of Kennedy– and the slow, humiliating, public road to that rebuff, culminating in the evening of chaos – could endanger the state’s standing with the Obama White House at a moment when states are scrapping over hundreds of billions of dollars in federal aid.

Paterson is likely to make an announcement on Friday, before the Jewish sabbath, to allow Speaker Sheldon Silver to attend, according to several New York Democrats also speaking on condition of anonymity

The whole thing is pathetic.

108. marisacat - 22 January 2009

It’s a short read.. and a real laugh. Ben Smith tracked the CSK story as ti moved, from the first up, NYP onward.

Hilarioius! A story of updates… 😆

[B]ut other Democrats who ought to be in a position to know are convinced that it’s over, though the prevalent theory is that Paterson put out word that Kennedy had turned it down in order to box her in.

Anyway, welcome to New York. If it’s confusing, it’s not your fault. It’s quite possible that this is a self-fulfilling gambit, or the opposite.

UPDATE: One last thought: Had she simply decided to withdraw, there would be no downside for her to have confirmed it this evening, or to have told aides who — as far as I can tell — still don’t know.

109. bayprairie - 22 January 2009

There is also a tequila/damiana liquor thats sweet but which also has a clear sharp bite that i think cuts the cloying tendency fairly well (it’s still sweet!) Keep in the freezer. drink from a glass!


also IB, i found a good explanation of the Background and history of Douchi, if you don’t mind reading low res images. I had the misimpression it was a cooked black bean pickled in soy sauce, but I see now its usually a koji type ferment with soybeans (although a wild ferment is also mentioned). the article doesn’t mention the length of fermentation/aging but i suppose it might be a while. red miso, which i see mentioned as a substitute in a few recipes online, ferments for at least a year minimum iirc. the article then mentions sun drying which sounds exactly like what you describe. flavorful and saltilicious! thanks for the info, will see about getting some for kitchen experimentations!

110. marisacat - 22 January 2009

nu post… 🙄


………….. 😆 …………….

111. Intermittent Bystander - 22 January 2009

BHHM – Battle of the rosaries! And St. Patrick’s team goes down!


bayprairie – Thanks for the bean info! Had no idea they were soybeans to start with! Hope you can find ’em in your local Asian provisioner.

I gave a carton to a friend for his birthday, once, and thought underwhelmed at the handover, called to thank me profusely a few weeks later. (Another friend once claimed that the veg stew got her high, and blamed the magic beans therein!)

Very interesting to hear they’re considered a folk remedy for various ailments. Definitely a good item for the pantry . . . hopefully no breaking news stories about melanine or whatever will ensue!

112. bayprairie - 23 January 2009

Very interesting to hear they’re considered a folk remedy for various ailments.

from my reading on this subject fermented foods (unpasteurized) are probiotic to a great degree. i’m not sure what effects the sun drying would have on the living animacules that create this particular “style” of ferment but i would suspect they just dehydrate and can reinvigorate upon contact with water. of course cooking past a certain temp. would render the probiotic benefit moot, due to the inability of the organisms to survive, but the actions of the culture on the bean itself prior to heating would remain. plus i believe i have read that the enzymes are mostly unaffected by the heat as well.

for example when milk is fermented (kefir) its often possible for mildly lactose-intolerant folks to drink it without any ill-effects at all. this happens because the complex sugar lactose-intolerant people cant digest is broken down into simpler form by the (in this case) bacteria. if i were to scald the kefir, or bake with it, the bacteria don’t survive but the effects they produced remain. i think about all we “get” of that philosophy here in the west is the suggestion from the doctor to eat yogurt when you’re on antibiotics, but the same thing holds true for almost any natural, or cultured, fermented food thats not been puposely heated to kill. and even when heated to kill the food is reportedly easier to digest.

and also saltilicious!

i keep mentioning miso cause out of all these many different soy ferments its the only one i know much about. but the more i read the more i keep bumping into stuff like this:

Unpasteurized miso is a “living food” containing natural digestive enzymes, Lactobacillus, and other microorganisms which aid in the digestion of all foods, and which have been shown to ward off and destroy harmful microorganisms, thereby creating a healthy digestive system.

of course most of the info is anecdotal and often comes from true believers, but there’s somehting special about fermenting that bean. therefore i’m conducting experiments upon myself! YUM! also the houston has a large asian population, 250 thou or so. im sure its out there. my enemy’ll be disorganization, as always.

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