oh what did papa do now! 25 January 2009Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, Israel/AIPAC, Italy, Viva La Revolucion!, WAR!.
I actually found that photo at a Catholic Youth site… LOL.. AND! stranger than fiction, when I went hunting for a photo of il papa, using “Benedict 16”, it was first up!
What a hoot! The former Hitler youth has people all riled up. No! Say it is not so! Everybody’s mad!
The Pope has lifted the excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church of four bishops appointed by a breakaway archbishop more than 20 years ago.
One of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre’s appointees, Briton Richard Williamson, outraged Jews by saying the Nazi gas chambers did not exist.
Two of the other three appointees are French while the fourth is Argentinean.
Israel’s envoy to the Vatican said the papal decision would “cast a shadow on relations with Jews”.
“We have no intention of interfering in the internal workings of the Catholic Church, however, the eagerness to bring a Holocaust denier back into the Church will cast a shadow on relations between Jews and the Catholic Church,” Mordechai Lewy told Reuters news agency. …snip…
The special relationship between the Church and the Jews has room for more shadows? What a euphemism!
Somehow the BBC story manages to leave out that the bishops were in a far right wing faction of the church… quite aside from being classic schismatics.. denying or dissenting from the so called modernisation of the Church under John XXII, and the suppression of the Latin Mass.
LOL Once you are into denial, you can deny all sorts of things! Rooting around online, Bishop Williamson also denies the official story of 9/11, believing (among many beliefs I would imagine) that the WTC buildings were wired and blown up. How anyone is comfortable with that day, how it rolled out, is a mystery to me, but the theory of the wiring and internal blast bombing of the buildings has always seemed a bit extra murky…
Decades ago, being a fallen away Catholic, I had no idea that embrace of the banned Mass was code for being all sorts of looney… and happened to mention once at a luncheon that I missed the Latin Mass. About 20 people proceeded to jump far away from me. I had no idea that factions of the Church were bunkered over the whole thing, with near Neanderthals holding secret celebrations of the Latin Mass in garages on Long Island.
Who knew? Then again I never understood, and still do not, why it was so important to ban the Latin Mass.
But it is loaded with delicious wrinkles…
At first sight the appearance of Richard Williamson, the drawling English leader of a Catholic splinter group, on Swedish television, to deny that Hitler killed anything like 6 million Jews, looks like pure comedy gold – the Producers come to life. The documentary in which Williamson appeared, “the Swedish Crusade” was an attempt to make sinister the activities of a sect which has, in Sweden, 30 members but which proclaims its ambition to reconvert the whole country to Catholicism.
But the Lefevrist splinter group of which he is one of the four bishops does actually matter to the Vatican, because it represents an institutional challenge to the legitimacy of the Second Vatican Council, which turned the church inside out in the 1960s, introducing masses in the vernacular, and opening up to other Christians groups and even to Jews in a quite unprecedented way.
And this little tidbit…
Update: the plot curdles I have now spoken to the Catholic Church’s press officer in Stockholm who has of course seen the film land adds two fascinating twists. The first is that the interview was recorded on November 1 last year, so it wasn’t timed to this week’s rumours.
The second, which makes it even more embarrassing, is that it was recorded at the Lefevrist seminary in Bavaria, where holocaust denial is a criminal offence.
Some of the other Lefevrist bishops are said to be keen on reconciliation with the Holy See. Although the Latin mass was not the only grounds for the schism, the Vatican has been putting out the story recently that Archbishop Lefebvre, who led it, signed all the decrees of the Second Vatican Council to which he later objected, and they have his signature in the archives to prove it. Under the circumstances, a graceful negotiated surrender might well have been possible – but Richard Williamson at least would rather die in his bunker.
Maybe they can all cuddle in bed together.
And I found that photo at a youth site as well…
The World Youth Day 2008 theme, received from The Holy Father is:
‘You will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you will be my witnesses.’ Acts 1:8
This passage occurs after the death and resurrection of Jesus, just before his ascension to the Father.
It represents the birth of the Church. The disciples had questioned Jesus about the time of the restoration of Israel. His words ‘You will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you’ were somewhat surprising – they referred to a new meaning of the word “power”. Jesus promises a different kind of “power” to help the Jews from under the yoke of Roman occupation. The power He promises to give is the very Spirit of God, the dynamic potential for transformation, the very condition of living according to the manner of Jesus’ life.
This Spirit is not a vague ambiguous force, rather it is a Divine Person, the true Self Gift of the Father to the Son, and the Son to the Father, and hence the gift of the Father to us in the Son – with Him we say “Our Father”. Only with the reception of the Spirit of Jesus can we exercise the authentic passion of the Heart of Christ, and hence by being set on fire with it do we as persons become witnesses to Him and everything for which He stands.
The ultimate witness we can make is to follow in the pattern of His life through the total self gift of our lives, lived authentically in truth and love for Him and at the service of others.
What a tangle it all is… Apparently, zooming around the netteries, people are just in a tizzy over this… especially that the lifting of the excommunication includes that the 4 (in particular, Williamson) are bishops again. Not merely restored to priests under the Vatican, but princes of the Church.
Ratzy must laugh a lot…
UPDATE, 4:51 am Pacific Time
Cooler than cool…way way way cool.
<!– — Updated: 1:32 am –> Sam Grobart
Nobody’s saying anything official or on the record about this, but reports popping up all across the Web indicate that while President Obama may be able to keep a mobile phone/e-mail device while in office, that device may be something more exotic than a BlackBerry from Research in Motion.
(Cue James Bond theme.)
The nation’s e-mailer in chief may be carrying something called a Sectéra Edge, which is made by the military contractor General Dynamics (you know, the submarine people). …snip…
hmm not to push it too much, but General Dynamics would be the DEFENSE people. Or OFFENSE, to be more precise.
But, carry on. Bombs away! Cool guy!