It’s bigger than Grenada… 13 April 2009
Posted by marisacat in AFRICOM, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Somalia, WAR!.trackback
In Galcaio, the state capital, pirates from Hobyo even have a store named after their village: it sends a lorry laden with food, drink, cigarettes and khat to them three times a week [Veronique de Viguerie – Daily Mail – October 2008]
BUT!, Is it a small enough war for us to win?
[O]n Sunday night, one of the crew members said Phillips had gone with the pirates as a good-faith gesture. But the pirates did not follow through on their promise to let him go, and his ordeal began.
On Saturday afternoon, two U.S. helicopters buzzed over the pirate stronghold of Harardhere on the Somali coast, residents said. One helicopter landed for about 10 minutes, bewildering locals and scattering herds of goats and cows.
“I have no idea what is happening,” said Laila Arale, a local farmer who sent her sons to sleep elsewhere Sunday night, fearing that the United States might attack Somalia from the air. “I’m scared.”
The Bainbridge had offered to tow the lifeboat to calmer waters as the seas grew rougher, and the pirates, seeming worn down, agreed, said military officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity. One pirate with a hand injury effectively gave himself up.
Phillips was by then tied up, having been bound and occasionally beaten by pirates after he tried to escape by jumping off the boat.
The rescue occurred at 7:19 p.m. local time Sunday, the Navy said, and involved dozens of SEALs. With one of the pirates pointing an AK-47 straight at Phillips’s back, an on-scene commander gave the SEAL snipers authority to fire.
John Reinhart, president and chief executive of Maersk Line, the ship’s owner, spoke with Phillips by phone. Reinhart quoted Phillips as saying that “the real heroes are the Navy, the SEALs, those who have brought me home.” [mmm three head shots in a “bobbing water” condition, at night, no less… hmm –Mcat]
“It’s a great day for all of us,” Reinhart said at a news conference in Norfolk. “It is truly, truly a wonderful moment.”
What, other than elections, have we ”won” lately?
Today on The News Hour the reading of the dead from Afghanistan and Iraq was 14. And there was just a similar reading toward the end of last week. Two today were from California alone. Years later… is that “winning”?
So, is waging war on Somaliland (I imagine the war mongers in the WH have worse names for Somalia) something to make us tall and strong again?
Goldman Sachs had a bang up first quarter… will that, mixed with shelling and air bombing Somalia, do it?
Poking around today I saw that the cheese eating surrender monkeys sent in a ground force of French special ops a few months ago, to free the hostages taken from a pleasure yacht… following that, crews from that town returned to spending their nights out at sea, while on pirate work and hostage holding…
We must not be outdone. Can you imagine if that short shrimp of a French Pretzel outdid our tall Amazons.
A Somali girl leads camels, tied head to tail and carrying all of her family’s household goods, as the family moves from the pirate stronghold of Haradhere to Adado in south-central Somalia on Friday last week. Somali pirates dominate the towns of Haradhere, Hobyo and El-Hur, forcing most people to flee in fear of military action against the pirates. [PHOTO: EPA – October 2008]
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Arcturus linked to Moon of Alabama in the last thread, this is their most recent post and thread on the incidents…
I fear that Obama’s ‘victory’ here will turn out to be like Bush’s ‘victory’ at Tora Bora. The starting point of a very costly and bloody campaign in which will no one will win.
And from the thread [my bold]:
open questions re this setup
# how many hijackers were involved in the initial boarding? media reports indicate four hijackers involved in this incident – how unusual was it for only four hijackers to attempt to commandeer a vessel of this size? was it flying a u.s. flag at the time?
# media reports state that the hijackers sank their own skiffs after boarding. has this behavior occurred previously? what was the purpose? how did they sink them?
# are there any cases of somali pirates holding an individual, and not a ship, hostage? how did the hijackers end up in the ship’s lifeboat? did they commandeer it? were they enticed? was it through a process of negotiation?
# why were the negotiations w/ the somali elders unable to move forward? who controlled the negotiations for the u.s. side – the fbi or military?
# what was the purpose of the use of the commando boat? to draw fire to guage the hijackers weapon capacity? to draw fire to shape a narrative and justify escalation?
# how did the one hijacker end up on the uss bainbridge to negotiate w/ u.s. officials?
# how did the bainbridge end up towing the lifeboat prior to the assassinations?
# media reports state that the maersk alabama was orginally scheduled to arrive at the port in mombasa on april 16th. was that date correct? and, if so, what accounts for the gap from the date it left the port at djibouti?
# why did the maersk alabama make a stop in djibouti? did it load or unload any containers? if so, what was that cargo? were there military supplies for delivery to the security forces in mogadishu?
# where did the maersk alabama load the cargo of reported humanitarian supplies? when will it offload this reported cargo in mombasa?
Posted by: b real | Apr 13, 2009 11:00:47 AM | 3
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Adding this from the close of the last thread:
Madman in the Marketplace – 13 April 2009
this reenactment makes no fucking sense.
I saw a clip of a reporter walking through one of those model of lifeboats … one person would BARELY fit behind that window.
marisacat – 13 April 2009
agree… it is a small window and this was at night. Does the life boat have electrified chandeliers?
Apparently polar bear lady was “distraught over losing her job”. So ‘body bite by polar bear’ makes the job boo boos go away? I just saw the film again with the added commentary.
Toward the end of the film clip with two big polar bears after her in the moat, well, that is quite a scene.
should have let the bears eat her … she volunteered, very green of her to recycle herself in such a natural way.
oh that made me laugh!
Apparently that litigious schmuck Rush Limbaugh suggested she file suit against Al Gore.
I know Al Gore’s gained weight but he isn’t exactly white enough to be mistaken for a polar bear.
Once again the people are asked to wait.
Tweenbots
As much as I enjoyed this video: Paul Rudd Dances On Sesame Street, it was this comment below the video that really made me laugh:
RFLMAO!
that was hilarious!
loved the “…feeling are children’s brains…”… too good.
I personally love feeling children’s brains. 🙂
Dolan Says That Catholics Are ‘Above the Times’
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Instapundit:
Welllllllll he just won one fo the great sea battles of all time. Give it a few days and re-poll!
The Dow Jones obviously doesn’t appreciate what a superhero Obamalama is by taking on those pirates all by his lonesome in the WH. It fell 25 points today. Why does the DJ hate Obama?
(Then again, pirates must stick together, after all.)
Tivo alert – Pelosi pushing printed product on The Daily Show tonight.
(Aforesaid product is titled Know Your Power.)
Great post, Marisa.
oh thank you for posting that IB…
😉
Remembering Marilyn Chambers — 1952 – 2009
Just heard that on an update. And she died following Jack Wrangler, who I also heard on Fresh Air today, along iwht Margaret Whiting, his wife — of all interesting conjunctions.
the interview from the ’80s that Fresh Air replayed w/ Wrangler was delightful. Very charming man.
she was too.. MW I mean… very enjoyable it was.
indeed, she was too, and both interviews put the lie to the lazy taxonomy that people want to impose upon human relationships.
Women’s rights advocate gunned down in Afghanistan
well I can imagine that legislation sanctioning and CODIFYING Sharia law has just helped so much.
hmm there is a caller to KGO whose family is Somali – Yemeni and he states that Djibouti, where the base is (that we keep enlarging, our only real Africom base) is full of Somalis. Having once been part of the larger Somaliland.
Lordy. Good Luck!
NOW the story is that they shot one thru the front window… and miracle of miracles, two of them popped their heads up out of the life boat, thru an opening on the top. Bang Bang.
Interestiong… I saw more than one animation that indicated three shots thru the front ”window”, which actually is a window at the front of the bump up at the back of the life boat.
Geesh. ”Mark to market”..and now logistics of lifeboats, of a sort I did nto even know existed..
Made for the movies. I tell ya. Apparently the Bainbridge was named for a naval officer who fought the Barbary pirates.
Cue the music, the thunder and the technicolor. The era of Errol Flynn lives!
Swabbishness
While suborn pirates,
Cinch nuclear waste
From the simple minded,
We shoot them
With a toe to heel kick,
A grace note
To aphasia;
Because language is taken,
It is not your own.
The world no longer intends
What it pretends,
And pretends what it means.
Full poem…
While suborn pirates,
Cinch nuclear waste
From the simple minded,
We shoot them
With a toe to heel kick,
A grace note
To aphasia;
Because language is taken,
It is not your own.
The world no longer intends
What it pretends,
And pretends what it means.
So we, suborned,
Are left with piracy.
Tapper v Gibbs
What a simple fuck. Makes you wonder if Gibbs has
a little paper bag from which he pulls the following note
before every briefing:
You know, 70 point print on a flashcard behind the lectern:
He’s hilarious. Unclear on the preferred story on a much disseminated aspect of the operation, sort of the basic rule of engagement for this event… the story goes Captain had to be under direct threat.
I think the whole thing is creaky and porous as hell, but what do I know.
Tapper’s gonna give him kidney stones.
Gibbs has this terrible tell when he’s in trouble:
always fiddling with his glasses.
He sweats, they slide off his ears down his nose and he has to keep poking himself between the eyes. They need surgical fixation behind his ear lobes before pressers or something. Maybe contacts. Something.
“Humane Plexiglass” – hell, I don’t now.
Something that doesn’t glaze over.
Could help with the Deer In The Headlights thing too.
He sweats, they slide off his ears down his nose and he has to keep poking himself between the eyes.
….maybe he could wear industrial safety glasses, that go all around. for the drop sweat, I have no solution.
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ooo PS “humane plexiglass”
Just saw it… Good One!
Yeh. Like a “donut” tire sized thing,
the little spare to get you through..
The circumference of his head serving as the rim.
MilSpec’d from nostrils to forehead in height.
Thick, Translucent of course, with ports for the ears to hear.
The visually bizarre magnifying effect would be offset by the sense of “gravitas” it might lend him… LOL.
But then there’s the drop sweat: Have him stand in an inflatable baby pool at the podium. The Ultimate in Pragmatism, no? Drop Sweat problem SOLVED. Look, I’m just trying to be helpful, here. “Bo” the WH Wonderdog isn’t the only one with a puddle problem…
Shellacked in molded optometric (that may not be a word, LOL) plastic. Works for me… he could just stand forever at the Press Room lectern. No reason to go home.
LOL! See?!! American Ingenuity!
And whether “molded optometric” is a word- Who Cares?!
It SOUNDS GREAT! We Can Sell It Anyways!
No one will know What The Fuck We’re Talking About! 😀
Listening to ObRama speech today… he is dishing out a lot of “molded optometric”… and talking fast. Quick recap of first 90 days.
For him, according to the speech, ti si an uphill struggle, but the sun shines everyday.
Utter Bullshit.
Howard Jacobsen in TNR.
This by the way is Jenny Tonge in the House of Lords:
Israel stands accused of war crimes witnessed by the whole world
More extraordinary Israeli Propaganda from Jacobson:
Wow. “Nothing Israel has done”….
even if “ten times the barbaric apartheid state” of the “English Imagination”. Itself quite the Broad Brush of the UK.
Also Jacobson’s “under cover of criticism of Israel”..
Who’s slinging the conspiratorial cover up bullshit there?
Criticism has been pointed and Matter-of-Fact at The State of Israel as well as Jewish Financial and Political operatives for their ACTIONS.
Just a bit more of the Jacobson denial and LIES, his getting all Touchy Touchy over Jewish copyrights WRT the Holocaust.
Checkout where the guy uses the term “nonetheless argued” as in
“How Dare They?”…
I AGREE with Loach, quite literally: that an increase in anti-Semitism is perfectly understandable because Israel feeds feelings of anti-Semitism. As is the anti-Americanism against a US run amok by zealots, thugs, and white collar criminals.
Deal with it ,
and the worldwide criticism from the Left and CENTER now…
The Alternative isn’t Pretty in the long run.
hm I should check before I say this… but think Jacobson had a very inflammatory comment piece in the Guardian a few weeks ago. Caused a bit of a stir.
Found it.. he is prolific so it took some winnowing… gah. It was in the Independent.
IMO Many Israelis and Jews of the Diaspora were/are too like many many Americans … they cannot see that they USE self shrouding exceptionalism or past suffering to wage present day horror. His piece reeks of apologia for murder in Gaza. If you refuse to see what happened in Gaza then you are an apologist for Israeli war crimes and policies. So many Americans accept what the government says, whether Bushiter or ObRama The Great, about what we do. Hopelessly and willingly ignorant. And supportive of war crimes and murder.
He never bothered to find out what really happened at the school bombing. He took a brief and unbelievable and disproved cover story and ran with it. IMO he discounts eye witness statements from anyone who was inside Gaza. OK fine: Warsaw Ghetto is not and never was as the inhabitants saw it and told it…
I’d call him a Gaza denier.
hmm Scott Horton, for whatever reason in Daily Beast rather than Harper’s:
oh those whacky Somalis. Three more ships taken in the past 24 hours.
Surely we shot them all.
Well AP and the Independent say FOUR more.
Why Things May Never Return to Normal
I caugth Ramo a couple of Sundays ago as part of an overcrowded round table at MTP… I agree with some of what he says… but he’s not listening to Obster and the financial mobsters in the administration. REALLY not listening.
Yeah, he doesn’t completely get it – he’s still under the impression that Obama is Special. But just the fact that he’s acknowledging we’re groaning under our own complexity is worth noting.
The most advanced thinker on this is Dmitry Orlov who is at least trying to provide practical advice about how to climb down in orderly fashion from complexity. He’s kind of like Kunstler, but has constructive suggestions and not just wild-eyed apocalyptic rantings. Unfortunately for Obama, Orlov’s main bit of advice is “Avoid the government as much as you can, they’re not going to help us get through this.” Orlov isn’t a libertarian (ie “government is always bad”) – he just is pointing out that they’re pretty useless at this stage.
LOL. Sorry! Call in a sniper for this comment!
Correct format below.
but 1st, Thou Shall be Saved!
Christian concentration camps imo. Nothing less.
there will only be more of this sort of thing in months/years to come.
two pieces talking about the “Special Administrative Measures (SAMs)” for terr’ists:
Guantánamo at Home By Jeanne Theoharis
Daniel McGowan, Another “War on Terrorism” Victim, By Stephen Lendman
DOJ: No Evidence Anyone ‘Affected’ By Widespread Proselytizing in Military
gnu thread…
LINK
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