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Made it to Friday… 1 May 2009

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

la louche

…even tho I stopped working in May of 2000, still hard to break that thought of, made it again to Friday.

Pretty much a miracle every week…



1. catnip - 1 May 2009

New name: mongrel flu.

BooHooHooMan - 1 May 2009

Until the American Mongrel Association weighs in on it…

They need to find some nom that has so little power behing it,
that so few recognize and thus so few will object….

Why not just call it a Progressive Flu?

Intermittent Bystander - 2 May 2009

Maybe they could start giving the virii people’s names – like hurricanes.

First they came for the Annes, and I said nothing. Then they came for the Bobs. . . .

Or just always call the latest one the Flu du Jour, with the H1N1 or whatever in parentheses, as needed.

BooHooHooMan - 1 May 2009

NYT gives a Hillary the 100 Day, treatment

Some interesting bits within…

But in many other ways, Mrs. Clinton has shed her candidate’s skin. Her campaign staff is largely gone,

{ no kiddin – she has them running the REST of the Administration}

replaced by a broader circle of advisers. Her husband, who stood behind her at countless campaign stops this time last year, has resumed his globe-trotting life, seeing her on rare weekends at their home in Chappaqua, N.Y.

But State Department officials, and others in the administration, say less-than-generous things about Mr. Obama’s national security adviser, Gen. James L. Jones, suggesting there is some jockeying among the top officials around the president. General Jones, these people say, has struggled with his transition from Marine commander to senior staff person, speaking up less in debates than Mrs. Clinton and not pushing as hard for decisions.

Friends acknowledge that Mrs. Clinton herself was initially swamped by the challenge of taking over the sprawling State Department bureaucracy — management being one deficit in her career. She likens it to being “mayor of a good-sized small city.”

But Mrs. Clinton has turned a corner in recent weeks, these people say, both as a manager and as a diplomat. Her stern public warnings about the recent Taliban offensive in Pakistan put her on center stage as the messenger of American unease.

“I love the job; I mean, it’s really hard,” Mrs. Clinton said in a recent interview. “We’ve inherited so many problems.”

GMAFB: “We’ve inherited so many problems.”
Yeh like the War she voted for, Wall Street deregulation, NAFTA, the fruits of Greenspans Fed, and Arthur Levitt’s SEC. Hey she was the one who used her tenure a FLOTUS as CV…And Yes, plenty of shitheels before the Clintons, and Obama being a specimen-jarred outgrowth of Hope in Third Way-wardness….but I don’t have one whit of regret that she lost the primary. A small denial , a small inconvenience, but it was some evidence of a desire on the Left to punish what has been.

No delusions tho on who really lost and loses in the end…
ordinary people.

marisacat - 1 May 2009

If only they both could have lost. And McCain as well.

It was a shitty lousy season.

brinn - 2 May 2009

How’s about the “stupid idiot’s flu”? or the “panic in a braindead fashion flu”? or…lessseee…hmmm, the “really you don’t want to think about all of these other things over here flu”?

Viri of mass destraction…..

2. Intermittent Bystander - 1 May 2009

Just noticed this from Marisacat, a few threads back:

Bring on the Rapture! No one will notice!

Kinda sums it all up, don’t it?

marisacat - 2 May 2009


I did think it was a rather good short cut line to the coming era…

3. marisacat - 1 May 2009

BHHHM out of Moderation!

Sorry for the delay………………….. 😳

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009
5. marisacat - 1 May 2009

Wam bam thank you Ralph! The AIG characterisation gave me a laugh, alone… Ralph Nader was on Democracy NOW! on Chrysler:

RALPH NADER: Well, he offered them thirty, thirty-three cents on the dollar. They didn’t take it. Their argument is that they get first call on Chrysler assets, ahead of the United Auto Workers’ claims. In other words, they say they are secured creditors under bankruptcy law, and the United Auto Workers’ claims are not secure creditors, so they have to be number two in line to the lenders, to these people you just talked about.

And Obama thinks this is going to be a quick process. But he now is under the control of the bankruptcy judge, who’s a very experienced and by-the-book-type judge. So this is a real blunder by the Obama administration. You could see it during his press conference, how many times he had to say, “We don’t want to run an auto company.”

Well, listen, you put in a little over five percent of the taxpayer money into Chrysler, compared to what Obama put into AIG, $180 billion into AIG, a company that’s not only deemed to be too big to fail, but it’s too secret to fail, given its history around the world.

And so, the misplaced priorities are really staggering. Huge amount of taxpayer money Obama gives to speculators and reckless financiers in Wall Street who don’t produce anything. And he is fooling around with the industry that actually produces something and has employment all over the country. So this is a very clear indication of Obama, in contrast to his decisive rhetoric, of his indecisive decision making.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

there he goes, telling the truth again.

marisacat - 1 May 2009

I just heard on an update that Chrysler is moving to sell all assets but for 8 plants to Fiat, come next week.


6. catnip - 1 May 2009

Bruce Fein’s on fire on Moyers’ show.

marisacat - 1 May 2009

ooo goody… I did think when he was so agitated lst night on KGO that he was revving up…

Comes on at 10PM here, hour 45 mins away.

catnip - 1 May 2009

I dare Obamalama to nominate him to the SC. lol

Intermittent Bystander - 1 May 2009

Double dare! OK by me, and I live here.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

fundraising season here … I’m recording the “broadcast” at 4 am on Sunday morning.

catnip - 1 May 2009

You can probably watch it online already.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

good point!

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

so, I went to that thread cad linked in the last post, where dallasdoc actually remembered that Mcat and me used to post there (I was shocked anybody was left who knew who the fuck my marginalized ass was), and found THIS funny comment below that one:

(71+ / 0-)

Whatever you do, don’t say his name 3 times in a row like armando armando armando, or he will appear behi

by strandedlad on Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 08:41:16 PM PDT

[ Parent ]

I don’t remember strandedlad, but that made me laugh.

marisacat - 1 May 2009

Banned but not forgotten…

………… or something.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

not that it matters, but my ego does enjoy the idea that someone remembers I used to post there, a lot.

marisacat - 1 May 2009

I am amazed anyone remembers me, aside from Del Dem excoriation work, of course. He did work it.

I did not comment all that much, not like some and I did far fewer diaries. And none, once I realised that Houle began to show up for all of mine.

/makes a kicking motion to the curb… >

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

I’m surprised, post multiple purges, that there is any group “memory” over there at all.

Intermittent Bystander - 1 May 2009

FYI – cad linked to a different thread, last post. (The one you reference was the one I pointed at.)

Haven’t donned my hipwaders for cad’s link yet, but assume it’s got some hoots too.

Intermittent Bystander - 1 May 2009

Correction: donned hipwaders and sloshed as far as post, to cad’s link, but not comments.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

oh, sorry!

8. marisacat - 1 May 2009

Well… whatever.

U.S. May Revive Guantánamo Military Courts

Published: May 1, 2009

The Obama administration is moving toward reviving the military commission system for prosecuting Guantánamo detainees, which was a target of critics during the Bush administration, including Mr. Obama himself. …snip…

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

I can’t even work up disgust anymore.

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

Churchgoers more likely to back torture, survey finds

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists, according to a new analysis.

More than half of people who attend services at least once a week — 54 percent — said the use of torture against suspected terrorists is “often” or “sometimes” justified. Only 42 percent of people who “seldom or never” go to services agreed, according the analysis released Wednesday by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life.

White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified — more than 6 in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only 4 in 10 of them did.

What do you expect out of a bunch of people who worship an imaginary friend represented by an instrument of capital punishment and torture?

marisacat - 1 May 2009

they are so into the Crucifixion…

It was clear that Gibson’s movie was part of the 2004 election season ‘torque their emotions’ to some sort of blood orgy…. Rev them up. They have never un-revved.

Tho the calls for days and days now to KGO about torture have been horrifying… and largely from agnostics… and just “ignore religion” people.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2009

Americans in general are a cruel people, in so many ways. Secular or religious. I was just fascinated that someone polled it.

Bill Hicks used to do a bit about how sick it was to use the cross as a symbol of a peaceful religion.

Intermittent Bystander - 1 May 2009

The Cross was what grossed me out, as an infant heathen, in the first place.

Right on.

catnip - 2 May 2009

Good book that looks at the history of the cross: Constantine’s Sword. I haven’t seen the documentary yet. I’ll have to add that to my bucket list.

catnip - 2 May 2009

I haven’t seen The Bucket List yet either so I guess I’ll have to add that to my bucket list too.

Intermittent Bystander - 2 May 2009

Thanks for the earworm.

Got all these buckets, comin’ out of my ears. . . .

– R. Zimmerman

Say hi to the goats at the petting zoo! Will there be any dahlin’ llamas?

catnip - 2 May 2009

I will submit a full report when I return – maybe even with pics.

(If I see an Obamallama, I’ll definitely let you know.)

10. marisacat - 1 May 2009

hmmm AP has a round up piece on some IRS wrinkles. Hard to tell what it means or who screwed up.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Millions of Americans enjoying their small windfall from President Barack Obama’s “Making Work Pay” tax credit are in for an unpleasant surprise next spring.

The government is going to want some of that money back.

The tax credit is supposed to provide up to $400 to individuals and $800 to married couples as part of the massive economic recovery package enacted in February. Most workers started receiving the credit through small increases in their paychecks in the past month.

But new tax withholding tables issued by the IRS could cause millions of taxpayers to get hundreds of dollars more than they are entitled to under the credit, money that will have to be repaid at tax time.

At-risk taxpayers include a broad swath of the public: married couples in which both spouses work; workers with more than one job; retirees who have federal income taxes withheld from their pension payments and Social Security recipients with jobs that provide taxable income.

The Internal Revenue Service acknowledges problems with the withholding tables but has done little to warn average taxpayers.

“They need to get the Goodyear blimp out there on this,” said Tom Ochsenschlager, vice president of taxation for the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants.

For many, the new tax tables will simply mean smaller-than-expected tax refunds next year, IRS spokesman Terry Lemons said. The average refund was nearly $2,700 this year. …snip…

brinn - 2 May 2009

motherfuck. I KNEW it….oh, well, they can try to bleed my turnip ass next April then.

Fucking liars.

marisacat - 2 May 2009

I think this is a bit of a big bomb… depending on how it hits people… esp in a really tough economy. Which I sort of gather by October/November (in time for Xmas shopping!) they will tell us not to believe our lying eyes.

That we are doing better than it seems. And get with the ObamaLove program.

Some such slurp.

brinn - 2 May 2009

Yeah, go out and BUY SHIT, on CREDIT even!! Everything is a-ok! Jes’ fine! By the by, you” be paying 47% interest on that 100 bucks you put on credit to pay your heating bill….

Every time I hear this polyanna crap I throw up in my soul a little bit…yeah, the economy is great, Goldman Sachs made a 1.8 B$ profit in the first 1/4, well no SHIT, we gave them over a trillion, all funnels told….

We have hit no kind of bottom….just wait for 2010

11. marisacat - 1 May 2009

Dennis! Dennis! Come into the great, unprecedented, it’s-so-historical LIGHT! Come into the light Dennis! Resistance is Futile!

Have I mentioned how much I hate politics? Fucking fucking loathe that shit. I’m not talking about grassroots attempts to reclaim what’s left for us proles, doomed and compromised as those efforts generally are.

I’m referring to the hourly kabuki bullshit crammed down our bleeding throats, photo ops and 6th Grade lectures about “civic” affairs, the wonderment of it, the sacred mystery.

It’s bad enough when our owners and their stenographers do this; it’s even worse when bloggers fart out the same stench, as if they’re in “the know” or wise to the game. And man, am I sick of looking at Barack Obama. Whatever charm he possessed evaporated long ago, at least to my bloodshot eyes. Anybody who wants to be president is fucked in the head on some level. But then who the hell am I? Who elected my ass to anything? …snip…

catnip - 2 May 2009

And man, am I sick of looking at Barack Obama.

Can I get a Ramen?

BTW, only .5% of Rameners favour torture. I’m not one (or half) of them.

12. marisacat - 1 May 2009

Moyers just coming on here… he also has Mark Danner on, whom I like a lot.

marisacat - 1 May 2009

I am trying ot figure out how Fein and Danner disagree, but it is sparking the conversation or debate or whatever. Geesh Fein is agitated, more than a bit.

marisacat - 1 May 2009


if you taped it, part 2 of MOyers is very good too… a look at grass roots organising in Dorchester, part of Boston, to keep epople in their foreclosed homes. Profiles a group I had not heard of, City Life or La Vida Urbana. Great interview…

13. NYCO - 2 May 2009

The NYT story “Mexican Outbreak May be Smaller than Feared” makes me wonder if the media is simply getting tired of covering a story where no Americans are dying. It’s a difficult story to cover. Clearly an alarming number of Mexicans are getting very sick and many are dying; but the idea that only 20 or so people have “actually died from this” seems kind of disingenuous. Invisible people, invisible plague?

However, what do you do with this information that a lot of people in Mexico have been unusually sick? The story of the school closings, social shutdowns, etc are now bigger than the medical story, or what can be ascertained of the medical story.

The “revolution” (or the Crash, or the Plague) won’t be televised, nor will it be Twittered…

The biggest potential problem is not a specific “Swine Flu” plague but rather, the combination of stress factors that will continue to make people less likely to go to a doctor when very ill with something dangerous. Considering how some people have been forcibly kept from leaving quarantines or hospitals, I can see this trend only accelerating. I wonder if the future of epidemic is probably not going to be a massive, well-reported Bubonic Plague (or Swine Flu or Bird Flu or whatever), but just an era of more and more local outbreaks of serious disease that might not have occurred 20 years ago. And, unlike in the past, these fatal localized outbreaks will begin happening in the U.S. soon. That’s a big story, of course, but not The Big Story that news orgs are interested in. The U.S. outbreaks will happen in poorer rural areas (like Appalachia) or even smaller regional cities and will be fuzzily reported, just like the one in Mexico.

14. catnip - 2 May 2009

Yay garage sales! Community fair! Pony rides! Petting zoo! (I’ll be in there knocking over the toddlers).

15. marisacat - 2 May 2009

The world is full of bunnies and chocolate eggs… every day, forever.

Buffett says Obama did good with the economy. (Maybe Buffett could call Durbin? What was that comment about the bankers running congress all about? One of Daley’s soldiers off the rez?)

It’d be funny if it were not a tragedy.


A tragedy, but on its toes! No slacker at 1600.. Obama switched from Edumacation for his radio UTube alert… to Schwine Flue!

[I]t is my greatest hope and prayer that all of these precautions and preparations prove unnecessary. But because we have it within our power to limit the potential damage of this virus, we have a solemn and urgent responsibility to take the necessary steps. I would sooner take action now than hesitate and face graver consequences later. I have no higher priority as President of the United States than the safety and security of the American people, and I will do whatever is necessary to protect this country. So I want to thank every American for their patience and understanding during this developing challenge, and I promise that this government will continue speaking clearly and honestly about the steps we’re taking to meet it.

Thank you.

I wanna be left off his prayer list. I do gather that Saturday is our national sabbath, in thrall to the Leader. In their minds. Does anyone listen? The numbers for his Youtube-ing were plummeting months ago.


I read this during the night, the first half is a recap but she has some interesting extra info about factory farms/pig farms in the second half, from the Guardian.

[J]an Slingenbergh, a senior animal health officer at the FAO believes the precise final evolution of the current virus may never be found. “We don’t know, but what is most likely is that a human was infected by a common flu virus and at the same time with a second virus which had elements probably from pigs and they mixed to form a new virus. The last bit of human mixing probably took place around mid-March in Mexico.” Slingenbergh is sceptical that a link will be found to the Granjas Carroll factory.

The current virus may now progress as a mild strain and die down or it may mutate and evolve further to become more virulent. The reason experts have invested so much effort in preparing for a flu pandemic and are taking this one so seriously, is that these rapidly evolving strains that mix bird, pig and human forms could throw up a particularly deadly variety. Health experts have warned for years about the danger of intensive livestock farming creating new and rampant human disease.

If these new viruses are the toxic debt of the food system, the genetically improved pig is its highly engineered and artificial derivative. Pumped up like a bodybuilder, dependent on antibiotics and vaccines to keep it going, it has disproportionately large back legs to meet a market that likes hams more than shoulder of pork; it has tiny ears and no tail to limit the scars from the aggressive behaviour distressed conditions produce; and it is bred without hair for ease of slaughter. When herds of 5,000 of these genetically identical modern animals catch flu, it rips through them. …snip…

16. marisacat - 2 May 2009

A very big oops! 😳

Found this from aemd posted to the previous thread, lurking in SPAM!

So… from the lost file for So, Fluzilla? :

What the hell… here’s some more FFS (Fuckin’ Flu Stuff) 😉

Good read from New Scientist on the new flu. It gets a little heavy at times but has some interesting tidbits….

“There are now so many kinds of pig flu that it is no longer seasonal. One in five US pig producers actually makes their own vaccines, says Vincent, as the vaccine industry cannot keep up with the changes.”

“Smithfield Foods, in a statement, insists there are “no clinical signs or symptoms” of swine flu in its pigs or workers in Mexico. That is unsurprising, as the company says it “routinely administers influenza virus vaccination to swine herds and conducts monthly tests for the presence of swine influenza.” The company would not tell New Scientist any more about recent tests. USDA researchers say that while vaccination keeps pigs from getting sick, it does not block infection or shedding of the virus.”

Another good but VERY heavy post from Science Insider. Interview with chief of the molecular virology and vaccines branch at the CDC. Way over my head but interesting, again, for tidbits.

Via Effect Measure. Their swine flu posts start here. Watching this build from a MMWR dispatch, a Public Health Agency of Canada alert (comment 5 in first swine flu post from Effect Measure) and scattered reports of flu in Mexico to a pandemic in nine days is really amazing.

17. brinn - 2 May 2009

Our only natural predator: the virus.

Humans are so fatally stupid.

marisacat - 2 May 2009

well there is a flip side too.. that I think about from time to time. You get a lot of virologists on hand, which we do have, and presto chango, everything gets diagnosed as viral.

not saying there are not viruses… but it does rather stop there.

brinn - 2 May 2009

true enough….the old “I’ve got a hammer, everything is a nail” syndrome….and worse, the we told you what it is look no further BS…

To me, most all of this BS comes from “vaccine” producers needing more product off the shelves — I mean, look at how many idiots are running out and ingesting Tamiflu and Relenza…hello? Symptoms, thoise will help you with symptoms — if you’re going to die from this flu, neither of those things is gonna help and neither is ANY “vaccine” they come up with before the end of the year. Sorry, it isn’t possible.

brinn - 2 May 2009

And here:

So right you are about the “its a virus — end o’ story” narrative….

marisacat - 2 May 2009

From the link… I have been reading about the N Carolina outbreak of 10 or so years ago…. It does seem it might point to what we had in Mexico…. Maybe two different outbreaks occurred in Mexico… something happened.. and they will probably not bother to ever tell us what they figure out.

Since its identification during the Great Depression, H1N1 swine flu had only drifted slightly from its original genome. Then in 1998 a highly pathogenic strain began to decimate sows on a farm in North Carolina and new, more virulent versions began to appear almost yearly, including a variant of H1N1 that contained the internal genes of H3N2 (the other type-A flu circulating among humans).

Last year a commission convened by the Pew Research Center issued a report on “industrial farm animal production” that underscored the acute danger that “the continual cycling of viruses … in large herds or flocks [will] increase opportunities for the generation of novel virus through mutation or recombinant events that could result in more efficient human to human transmission.” The commission also warned that promiscuous antibiotic use in hog factories (cheaper than humane environments) was sponsoring the rise of resistant staph infections, while sewage spills were producing outbreaks of E coli and pfiesteria (the protozoan that has killed 1bn fish in Carolina estuaries and made ill dozens of fishermen).

marisacat - 2 May 2009

a few years ago they told us to stock CIPRO in our End Times kits…

I laughed pretty hard at that, the one time I took Cipro it made me so sick I could not finish it.

I can see it now, if The Rapture hits, they will determine a SELF ERADICATING FLU. You just disappear, as a result of contracting that flu. Fluhoo.

brinn - 2 May 2009


Thanks for that, Mcat!

marisacat - 2 May 2009

The FlewAwayFluhoo.

Now, if we mix it with HackenFlu.. the flu that hits hack pols… [or HackEnza, I accept variant strains as killers!]

we may have a providential flu. [or something!]

18. marisacat - 2 May 2009

hmm Moyers and Winship on Obamalamalovebaby. Or I should say High Pretzel Obamalama…. etc.

[I]n his first hundred days, FDR came out swinging. He shut down the banks, threw the money lenders from the temple, cranked out so much legislation so fast he would shout to his secretary, Grace Tully, “Grace, take a law!” Will Rogers said Congress didn’t pass bills anymore; it just waved as they went by.

President Obama’s been busy, but contrary to many of the pundits, he’s no FDR. Our new president got his political education in the world of Chicago ward politics, and seems to have adopted a strategy from the machine of that city’s longtime boss, the late Richard J. Daley, father of the current mayor there. “Don’t make no waves,” one of Daley’s henchmen advised, “don’t back no losers.”

What relief, as some stooge over at TNR is trying to say Obama is GREATER, already, than FDR.

Based on what? Dare I ask?

We don’t even ask for the production line to produce. Just rev teh engines and make headlines. It’s enough.


marisacat - 2 May 2009

ugh. Pretty damning… read to the end. We are so skrewed.

[W]ith these two [Geithner and Summers] as his financial gatekeepers, President Obama’s now in the position of Louis XVI being advised by Marie Antoinette to have another piece of cake until that rumble in the streets has passed on by.

In fact, other Wall Street insiders – many of them big contributors to the Obama presidential campaign, and progressive in their concern for the public interest – privately are expressing serious concerns that Geithner, Summers and their associates are leading the president and America’s taxpayers down a path toward further economic disaster.

This week, as Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin of Illinois unsuccessfully fought for a congressional amendment he said would have helped 1.7 million Americans save their homes from foreclosure, the senator told a radio station back home that, “The banks – hard to believe in a time when we’re facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created – are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place.”

He could say the same of the White House.

brinn - 2 May 2009

Indeed — I read that article earlier this am.

Same as it ever was.

19. BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

mcat #50 ,
Ob,, on the spread of MicrobioFascism…

greatest hope and prayer ___________
solemn and urgent responsibility_________
sooner take action now than hesitate and face graver consequences later. ______________no higher priority as President of the United States than the safety and security of the American people, and I will do whatever is necessary to protect this country.

____________ I promise that this government will continue speaking clearly and honestly about —>{how solemn and clearly and honest and determined we are about continuing to speak about how solemn and honest and determined we are…The guy’s fuckin skippin like his broken record. }

Bush, evidently-
is doing one hell of an Uncle Tom Impression in the White House.

What’s the fuckin Deal?
… the Earnest & All-Purpose “We’re Gonna
Nuke Somebody or Sumpin over Sumpin or Somebody” Speech.

*With God’s Help* as antiviral sprinklie-dust.

How a bout a little CHANGE, Bro?
How about A little of that much vaunted Competence, the Transparency. How about some decipherable data?
(cough, cough)

Really- Where have we heard all this before?
The Weak Swagger in Crisis from a propped up
“Change” Agent comet-to-DC while his patrons run amok?
What are we Down to ? Just one speech in this country?
It’s weakness really . But Obama will keep trotting it out for every god.damned thing right down to the occasional
National Contrived-By-A-Marketing-Association Day…

____________ I promise that this government will continue speaking clearly and honestly about —>{how solemn and clearly and honest and determined we are about continuing to speak about how solemn and honest and determined we are…}

The guy’s fuckin skippin like his broken record.
—“clearly and honestly”? —Obama can blow me.
Cheney’s new gigalo won’t call TORTURE a Crime.
“Clearly and Honestly” – GMAFB.

marisacat - 2 May 2009

I think it is some version of

Love me and if you love me, then you won’t feel your pain.

Sort of whippy drippy Maoism. In the sense of “I am All”.

Cribbed from Jesus, I am the Way and the Word… that sort of thing. Or from whathisname, that preacher, Rev Wright…. Stay in the ghetto with me, fill the collection plate, til I fly off to a 98.999% white, gated community (Tinley Park)

On and on it goes.

BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

Serious pathology ahead, for love him they do,
and feel their pain they do not, nor does he…indicative of gangrenous neuro toxins having taken hold of their faculties…

I was speaking the other day with a friend from PA, know her from political campaigns for thirty years. She was early Ob, still D, an otherwise gifted, intelligent person.. now a serious case indeed. LOL. Quarantine may be in order, as her heart is NOT in the right place regardless of her intentions…

To the “so~ whaddya think?” , I said I had “nothing but contempt for this political and socio-economic Fraud-of-an-Administration…”
Why? asks she..
The Appointments, Policies, and Pandering, says me..
You have to understand his Agenda, says she.

To the simple “Okay. What has he done?”
“LOT’S of Stuff” the reply .
‘Like What?”
“Stuff. LOT’s of Stuff. Now you’re gonna get like you get ..”

I agreed, and proceeded. I told her I was in the position of having to break the bad news to an already stricken friend: Bourgeois Flu. Advanced case. I told her reading more is the only known cure..

She made a penis reference, characterizing my position. The funny thing is , she said, “And don’t say ‘we shall see’ as you always do and I end up agreeing with you. This is different!”

She’s good people, actually. Utterly terrified of the implications though. And the Pols know it , keep right on with their warring, keep right on with their trampling, keep right on with what is more accurately described as PsyOps, the schizoid promise of calm while pushing fear, constant calamity, and confusion..

Real Wealth doesn’t “evaporate” in Economic crisis. Not the security of tangible assets..who owns the land, the oil water and mineral wealth of the earth, who owns prodoctive machinery in manufacturing concerns…It is transferred and transformed in the crisis, devalued perhaps in measure but not in substance…It has been engineered to terrorize the global population and preserve US and Israeli prerogatives. In Europe, It is hanging by a thread , like the frayed belief system of my friend. It holds for now here, is a crapshoot it will work in the mid term future, and certain to fail in the long term…

Yet, It holds on for now. It is predicated on people like my friend, people who are desperate, really. People like my friend, who eventually sought a change in subject, saying she didn’t “want to think about all THAT right now”. Despite the fact that she does think about “it”, the course of life on this planet, …I told her I thought she was terrified, (as subject and object of it both), I said that I hoped she did think about “All THAT” soon, and suspected she would…We spoke of other things – briefly- as small matters go…

Her husband is one of my oldest friends from home , another brother, totally apolitical. I’m godfather to one of their kids, they have a spare key to our house and vice versa.

Looks like we’ll be talking macaroni salad over Memorial Day weekend..

marisacat - 2 May 2009

Drink on the Memorial Day wkend.

I once visited an newly found again childhood friend, her husband, 5 year old and new baby for Thanksgiving day. I nearly died. NO alcohol in the house. None. Where I might have brought a couple of bottles of wine I had brought presents for the children (very charming, it was not them driving me to drink)

Quick dinner….

20. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2009

CEO Perks Rise As Pay Falls

NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. companies remain generous with the perks they give to CEOs, including some that are unfathomable to the average American worker: chauffeured cars, bodyguards, club memberships and free travel in company jets.

The median value of these and similar perks rose nearly 7 percent in 2008, according to an Associated Press analysis of regulatory filings from 309 companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500. The increase came even as overall CEO compensation fell 7 percent to $7.6 million.

Perks rose despite a public backlash against such benefits, which many investors and lawmakers deem excessive. They argue well-paid executives should cover the costs of life insurance, charitable donations and financial planning themselves, especially as companies struggle with falling profits, slumping stock prices and massive job cuts.

Even some compensation consultants are saying enough is enough.

“Those are things the average person, the average Joe, doesn’t have, so we’re saying, don’t give them perks,” said Paul Dorf, a managing director at pay consultant Compensation Resources Inc.

But plenty of companies are keeping the spigots open. Occidental Petroleum CEO Ray Irani, for example, received $400,000 worth of financial planning, part of a $30 million pay package in 2008. To put it another way, that $400,000 in financial planning is more than the total annual household income of the vast majority of Americans. Occidental spokesman Richard Kline said the comprehensive financial planning helps Irani to “keep his complete attention on the company’s business.”

The median value of perks — which is the midpoint at which half of the executives received more and half less — was $170,501 in 2008, up from $159,586 the year before. Only three CEOs in the AP survey received no perks in 2008.

And perks made up a bigger percentage of total compensation, rising to 2.25 percent in 2008, up slightly from 1.95 percent, the AP’s analysis found.

The biggest earner of perks in 2008 was Johnson & Johnson CEO William Weldon. His perks package was worth $3.9 million, about 16 percent of his $23 million in overall compensation. Included in his perks package was a $3.6 million payment to a retirement plan, about $154,000 in personal flights on the company jet and about $26,000 for a car and driver.

marisacat - 2 May 2009

sorry it took a while to get it out of Mod… Madman… I was putting a chicken breast in the office and swabbing the sink, so to speak……………

marisacat - 2 May 2009


I mean in “the oven”.


BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

Oh I’m not letting that pass. 😀
Chicken Breast in the office, eh?

With Colonel Mustard?
What is this? 😀

marisacat - 2 May 2009

it’s out of the office now……………… 😉

BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

Not to mention the convenience while setting table.
Who needs knives when you can just run the meal through a shredder?

And for a notorious invitation weedler ,
not naming any names here, you people know who you are onthread, uhm, LIKE MYSELF – LOL- it’s the easy rebuff –
you can offer to xerox a copy, send a Facsimile of the portion instead.


marisacat - 2 May 2009

Included in his perks package was a $3.6 million payment to a retirement plan

and things like that escape current tax. Can’t tell me they ever pay tax LATER either.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2009

running companies into the ground, fucking over your customers and employees … that’s HARD WORK.

the peons just don’t understand.

21. marisacat - 2 May 2009

I think Jake is totally off here. We were specifically told it was Good News that job loss last week was (iirc) less than the week before by 14,000. Fourteen thousand. Still in the mid 600,000.

But you know, good news in there somewhere… 😈

The Stimulus Saved or Created 150,000 Jobs? Where?

May 02, 2009 10:57 AM

“We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs and provided a tax cut to 95% of all working families,” the president said Wednesday night.

We wondered where the president got that from, given that the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that more than 1.3 million jobs were lost in February and March, with dismal April numbers to come. …snip…

It gets lamer.

We were told by a White House official that the Council of Economic Advisers estimated the effect of the stimulus bill on employment in two ways:

One was to prorate the original quarterly estimates by the CEA of the effect of the stimulus bill at the time of passage ‘in a conservative way.”

The second way was to use the data available on actual spending to replace the assumed spend-out rate. CEA then applied the same estimates of the likely impact of spending on output and employment used in the original calculations.

Both methods yielded similar results: 150,000 jobs. …

BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

“Saved or created”
the phrase that was sure to come back to haunt.
Defining “success” as standing still, and goading a public into believing they are lucky, lest the PTB pillage MORE.

Good Luck with that Donklephants. There is little spin for Hunger, Illness, Homelessness and Despair. The Fools learned nothing from Katrina…and have done nothing since::

So How’s the New Orleans rebuild workin’ out?
Campaign Promise, no?

Devastated Economy? Flu Pandemic got ya down? No Problem!
Just line up for your Spin Shot folks. It’s New!
The Latest.
In Last Rites.

marisacat - 2 May 2009

Honestly they should just take Valium and Xanax off prescription.

I read some hilarious article at the time of Shock and Awe about how Bagdadis were knocking themselves out with arak to sleep thru the noise and panic.

HOWEVER I had also read that Iraq, like many countries, is flooded iwth available cheap Valium and other muscle relaxants, sleep meds and so on. Bottle of 50 for a dollar and so on.

I do wonder at how awash in “downer” meds some countries are.

BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

Of course the economy and people are not standing still despite the Midas Touch from Obama and the Vichy Dems. The auto industry collapse hasn’t even begun to be felt compared to the shock waves from the shut outs and shuttering that becomes evident this summer. His NEXT 100 Days.

While the ambulance service is dedicated to taxi-ing cash to Rubin’s cartel via Citi… I think the PTB knows damn well they perhaps fatally flatlined the economy – whoops! – and the hope-i-ness won’t last, so they’re sewing everything they can into their sleeves now. Why? Because for as much it looks like it is a concerted effort by the banks, there are factions, fault lines among the the bank chieftains, who are now about to tear each other to bits as the CDS and Bond Market implodes…

Yet TBTF still holds …For now.
Kinda a like that 14,000 Dow and in Bush’s time..
This Winter is going to be a bitch. Michigan will go positively Blackwater in its return to Republicanism.

Oh the irony after all these years –
Who says you can’t levitate the Pentagon?

22. marisacat - 2 May 2009


So… I am reading the article on how ObRama The Great thinks judicially.. and getting VERY irritated. This is BEFORE I see there are three grafs quoting ADAM BONIN, who apparently was a student of his High Holiness.

I also noted on the FP of the NYT that there will be no COLA increase for SS recipients next year. [Which fortunately I had anticipated, on SSDis.]

LOL Good luck Obama:

[“M]ost seniors have never been through a year in which there was no Social Security COLA,” said David M. Certner, legislative counsel at AARP, the lobby for older Americans. Beneficiaries have received automatic cost-of-living adjustments every year since 1975. The increase this year was 5.8 percent.

In theory, low inflation is good for people on fixed incomes. But it is creating political and policy problems for Congress, which is just learning of the implications for Social Security and Medicare.

The forecasts, by the Obama administration and the Congressional Budget Office, indicate that Social Security beneficiaries will not receive any cost-of-living increase in 2010 or in 2011. The COLA is intended to preserve the purchasing power of Social Security, by increasing benefits to keep pace with consumer prices. In the last year, overall inflation has been low, largely because of the economic downturn and a decline in energy prices.

A freeze in Social Security benefits would have major implications for Medicare because the COLA, in effect, puts a cap on premiums for Part B of Medicare, which covers doctors’ services. …snip…

Ob-lation could have a very tough 2010.

marisacat - 2 May 2009

hmm counting up here… there has been a COLA increase every year for 34 years. 1975 – this year…

but not under Ob – if their SPECULATION, they being SPECULATORS 😈 – holds… for two years running.

Oh good luck. They will be vacationing in the mud at the bottom of the river.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2009

so much for helping vulnerable members of society and all of the other boilerplate they spew out when trolling for votes.

BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

You catch the Adam Bonehead spliff??

Adam Bonin arrived in Mr. Obama’s voting rights class with the firm belief that drawing districts to ensure minority representation should be illegal.

Where do these people come from?
We’re getting into political physics here-
At starting point “A” for Adam
proceeding at speed “B” for Bonin
with Rockhead Load “RL” for REGRESSIVE “liberal”–
Knowing the value for “Time”, one might easily determine the ” ground covered” , the distance, i.e. the progress of his thinking…. It is the core reason why these faux liberals, these faux progressives, these interlopers, These SLOBS in their SLOBBER are always asking for more time. .

We should be talking about men and women when we are talking about people a decade past the onset of puberty, we should be talking about men and women past college, past their core character formation years when they reach law school but we are not. Of course they will parse, shuck and jive that it’s a matter of philosophical, legal, and professional development but it is not. It has to do with core character formation at that point in persons who are oblivious to the world outside their bubble. And in the US, The Professions , the Government, and the Media are absolutely littered with these people. These blank-slate flabby Nothings beyond their burgeoning buttocks…We’re infested with these rudderless narcissists crawling and clawing through Life at 25 30 40 50+ years old. Utterly oblivious. Small Wonder. There never was truly a social ” there there” to develop from

marisacat - 2 May 2009

well it was equally hilarious that Obsterama thinks that tough sentencing, the loss of judicial discretion, mandatory mins and so on is of any benefit to BLACK PEOPLE… (if indeed the deficient Adam B even parsed the classroom teachings right.

What a fucking hoot.

23. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2009

Ben Nelson came out today against a public health insurance option

Sen. Ben Nelson said Thursday that he will oppose the creation of a government-run health insurance plan as part of a health care overhaul, contrary to the position held by many of his fellow Democrats.

Nelson, D-Neb., said he may try to assemble a coalition of like-minded centrists opposed to the creation of a public plan, as a counterweight to Democrats pushing for it. He said he does not believe a majority of the Senate supports the idea.

But Nelson sides with opponents, who say a government-run plan would undermine the nation’s existing system of employer-sponsored health insurance.

Republicans, insurers and business groups say private insurers could not compete with a government-run plan, which presumably wouldn’t have to spend money on activities such as marketing or developing networks of participating physicians and hospitals. Eventually, opponents say, most consumers would join the public plan, either because its prices are lower or because their employers stop offering insurance.

“At the end of the day, the public plan wins the game,” Nelson said. He called the inclusion of a public plan in legislation a “deal-breaker” for him.

marisacat - 2 May 2009

we all know who holds the reins of the party.

Bloooo ooooo oooo Dogs. (Is there any other kind?)

marisacat - 2 May 2009

You know if McGovern, the one who lost big in ’72, had AN OUNCE of honestly he’d speak up. On several fronts.

Years ago he advocated withdrawal from Iraq, wote a book on it with a descendant of Pres Polk… (clue, we won’t be leaving) and also, he promoted and laid out a pretty rational way of expanding Medicare (not that it matters now, they are planning to shit on the shreds of Medicare that are left).

But watch, I am sure it will b SILENCIO. Omerta. Dem party blood oath.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2009

yup, and they wonder why people hold them in utter contempt.

24. marisacat - 2 May 2009

Obama and Calderon. We are blessed (via The Page):

Two presidents spend 20 minutes on the phone Saturday discussing their efforts to combat the problem.

I get a vision of cartoon El Jefes.

25. marisacat - 2 May 2009


Dow “surged” 7.6% in April. (WSJ)

obviously everything is OK

26. catnip - 2 May 2009

I rock. I was the first one at the petting zoo. (Take that, toddlers!) And later I got a Liz Claiborne leather jacket for $15 at a garage sale. Woohoo.

No llamas, IB, but there was one huge alpaca named Teddy. Might have some pics posted later. Oh, and you ever petted a turkey’s head? Ewwww….it’s like brain material. Yuck.

catnip - 2 May 2009

and you = and have you

Intermittent Bystander - 3 May 2009

Excellent! Did Teddy hum?

27. catnip - 2 May 2009

Big news here: Alberta pig herd quarantined; H1N1 infection suspected

CALGARY – A central Alberta pig herd is under quarantine after one of its workers returned recently from Mexico and may have infected some of the herd with H1N1, also known as swine flu.

28. marisacat - 2 May 2009

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Jack Kemp, the Ex-Quarterback, Congressman, One-Time Vice-Presidential Nominee Has Died [10:30 PM ET]

For more on this and other breaking news go to ABCNews.com: http://abcnews.go.com


of course… he was also gay

BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

Maybe we could send them a fax of a casserole or somethin’.

BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

Cue opportunity for revisionist history
with requisite Black Reagan Jesus Slobber.
Popcorn futures are always rated a “BUY” , but we really need to move in on the Paper Towel and Hanky Market, too.

I’m out on both counts and out for the night.
Maybe say a few prayers to influences Kemp’s destination before bed..
One good thing- we are spared Tim Russert Bloviating Buffalo, tho both Buffalonians are sure to be brought up by Brokaw and Will and assorted other putzzzz-es. (Putzi?)

29. catnip - 2 May 2009

Madman, next time take the bus.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2009

they might have caught me, but they won’t be able to hold me!!!!

whahahahahahahahahahahahahah *cough*

30. BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

One more…

Wherein heads explode on DK:

Obama is Lying.

by disrael
Sat May 02, 2009 at 05:34:28 PM PDT

So I’m refereeing kids soccer this season and some of the refs insist on factoring in the intention of the child. They are over thinking the game, a foul is a foul and a lie is a lie. For instance:

This budget builds on the steps we’ve taken over the last 100 days to move this economy from recession to recovery and ultimately to prosperity.

This is a lie. Read this excellent article for reality.

I expect to sign legislation by the end of this year that sets new rules of the road for Wall Street, rules that reward drive and innovation, as opposed to shortcuts and abuse.

Obama never understands the crisis, from 2007

We certainly do not face a test of the magnitude that Roosevelt’s generation did.

More below on proposed regulation and bigger lies…

31. marisacat - 2 May 2009

I avoided the Derby all day.. and even the news reports but I see there was big upset… so I looked up the print reports…

Mine That Bird ran 1 mile on a sloppy track in 2:02.66 and paid $103.20 to win – second-largest payout in Derby history behind Donerail ($184.90) in 1913.

He won by over 6 lengths as well…

So I looked up Secretariat’s time in the Derby, because I thought maybe today it was a sloppy slow run… I gather there was mud. Hell no he ran it only a little slower than Secretariat:

The Kentucky Derby

Despite the loss in the Wood Memorial, Churchill Downs bettors made Secretariat the 3-2 favorite over Sham in the 1973 Kentucky Derby. Secretariat broke last but gradually moved up on the field in the backstretch, then overtook his rival Sham at the top of the stretch, pulling away to win the Derby by 2 1/2 lengths. Our Native finished in third place.

On his way to a still-standing track record (1:59 2/5), he ran each quarter-mile segment faster than the one before it. The successive quarter-mile times were: 25 1/5, 24, 23 4/5, 23 2/5, and 23. This means he was still accelerating as of the final quarter-mile of the race. It would be 28 years before any other horse would win the Derby in less than 2 minutes (Monarchos in 2001).

marisacat - 2 May 2009

And I found this at a tip sheet, from April 30… all the way at the bottom:

Although no one was paying attention, Mine That Bird, who likely will be either the longest or second-longest priced horse in the field, actually turned in a smooth, strong gallop this morning, which caught the eye. There is nothing striking about him physically; he’s just a smallish colt in a plain brown wrapper, but he does move well.

32. marisacat - 2 May 2009

nu thred…………


………… 🙄 ……….

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