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Biding his time… ;) 2 May 2009

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, Afghanistan War, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War, WAR!.


A pig is seen on a farm outside Budapest [REUTERS]

Keeping an eye out, biding his time…  what a wrecked conga line the past 10 or so days has been.

I am losing track of what is yesterday or the day before in the other time zones, but in the last 48 – 72 hours, 3 US mil in Afghanistan… and 2 in Iraq, Mosul iirc.

[B]arack Obama understands perfectly well that prosecuting the war was the primary task of the role that he so avidly sought through the long presidential audition. At his “100 Days” press conference on April 29, he turned aside a question on the federal government’s responsibility for the economy by saying, “I don’t want to run auto companies. I don’t want to run banks. I’ve got two wars I’ve got to run already…”

The real reason for the Long War that Rumsfeld – and now Obama – wished to promote, stretched back deep into the twentieth century. During World War II the US State Department described the Mideast is the “most strategically important area of the world,” and the area’s vast energy resources – oil and natural gas – as “a stupendous source of strategic power, and one of the greatest material prizes in world history.” In the years since then, oil companies and their associates have reaped colossal profits; but, even more importantly to the US, control over two-thirds of the world’s estimated hydrocarbon reserves – uniquely cheap and easy to exploit – provides what Obama’s foreign policy adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski called “critical leverage” over European and Asian rivals, what the State Department many years earlier had called “veto power” over them.

Noam Chomsky points out, “Note that the critical issue is control, not access. US policies towards the Middle East were the same when the US was a net exporter of oil, and remain the same today when US intelligence projects that the US itself will rely on more stable Atlantic Basin resources [i.e., those of the Western hemisphere plus west Africa]. Policies would be likely to be about the same if the US were to switch to renewable energy. The need to control the ‘stupendous source of strategic power’ and to gain ‘profits beyond the dreams of avarice’ would remain. Jockeying over Central Asia and pipeline routes [notably in Afghanistan] reflects similar concerns.”  ….snip…

Oh those pesky inherited wars he has to run.



1. BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

Can’t sleep. Woke up to the smell of burning Blogdom!

Politico is just assfucking Josh Marshall in a three pager atop their National News outlet.
Top. of. the. Site.

LOL. Features Marshall as misogynist, cheapskate Boyo, running a work-camp clusterfuck! And that’s just the Good Parts!

Really skilfully done too…

Growing pains for Talking Points Memo

Hostile Environment, Boyo?:

In conversations with POLITICO, current and former TPM staffers have spoken of a grueling pace, constant pressures for content, and strict enforcement from the site’s managing editor, a former TPM commenter and lawyer based in Missouri. The work environment has been described as a “boy’s club,” and indeed, several women have left TPM after working there for just a few months.

In addition, after successfully rolling out several TPM off-shoots since the fall of 2005 — TPMCafé, TPMMuckraker, TPMElection Central and TPMtv — Marshall hit a snag with the January launch of TPMDC, a spin-off focused more narrowly on Washington politics.

The site’s congressional correspondent, Elana Schor, left after a few months. And Matt Cooper – a veteran DC journalist whose hiring made a big blogosphere splash – has taken on a reduced, editor-at-large role.

That’s left TPMDC, launched on Inauguration eve, without something pretty essential for covering the Obama era: a single, full-time staffer in the nation’s capital.


Most of TPM’s reporter-bloggers make between $24,000 and $40,000, according to sources, and those who survive at TPM clearly earn their keep.

In DC! or New York! All in the same room with Marshall and the wif breathing down their necks up in NY, with some Lawyer / Blogo / JAmateur Journo What The Fucky weighing in from the center of the universe in Missouri! LMAO.

And this- Oh please- 🙄

Marshall compared TPM to a long-running D.C. talent mill, the Washington Monthly. 🙄 As at the Monthly, staffers at TPM can work hard for a year or two and then “go off to do something similar at another place, where in almost every case, they’re paid more,” he said. With TPM’s growing cachet in the media world, staffers have been able to land jobs { UHM REAL JOBS facing REAL LAYOFFS but with UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS – BHHM} at the Washington Post, ABC News, Huffington Post, ProPublica, or the more recent start-up, the Washington Independent, which is home to three former TPM staffers with a fourth now freelancing.

Paul Kiel, who began at TPM in early 2006 and left {non-disclosure in hand no doubt- BHHM } for the investigative non-profit ProPublica in May 2008, said it can be difficult finding staff with the right skills for TPM because there’s no real training ground for the site’s —> unique mode of reporting and aggregation.<—

Cut / Paste/ Hyperlink / Blibby Blab/ Click. — Is that
a “unique mode of reporting and aggregation”???? LOL.

In this one here, they’re flat out Tom -Cruise-Assclowning ‘im–>

While describing TPM’s rapid pace, Marshall used words like “intense,” “scrambling,” and the in-house favorite, “full immersion.”

“Full Immersion” ! What a scream! Grab your fuckin E-Meter Josh! LOL.

Politico just teabagged the guy in a National News outlet. The article is really a scream. Joshy apparently packing his parachute– some fluff about the organization living beyond him – hello?- while staring at his reflection in the pond – LOL –

For the last two or three years, he said, there’s been an effort to “grow the company in a way that it’s less and less dependent on me-either as a manager, a writer, a draw.” Marshall is a huge draw for TPM fans, and scaling back his presence could cut into traffic. But Marshall said he’s got a team now in place that can function even while the boss is away.

“My goal is to de-Joshify the organization progressively over time,” he said.

De-Joshify? When in such “full immersion”? What an asshole.

Just type up a press release and say you’re going under, the in-laws are tired of ponying up, and are about to de-Joshify YOUR ASS if you don’t get a real job again soon, now that you have a baby…You know- some real reporting, remember?

marisacat - 2 May 2009

I read that in Politico on TPM… I had not realised Elana Schor was gone, I liked her posts in TPM DC. They were concise and detailed.

Well they helped get Obrama elected. Unless they broaden their appeal… and their criticisms of him is very slight. Mouthpiece org… maybe they can apply to be absorbed into the New Yorker.

Ha! 😈

marisacat - 2 May 2009

In DC! or New York! All in the same room with Marshall and the wif breathing down their necks up in NY

Another point! I worked in fairly close confines with a married couple who owned a business when I was young. Never again!

I did it briefly, one more time. NUTSO.

catnip - 3 May 2009

TPMCafé, TPMMuckraker, TPMElection Central and TPMtv — Marshall hit a snag with the January launch of TPMDC

Coming soon: TPMomgWTFymmv

2. BooHooHooMan - 2 May 2009

I’m still laughing at the Marshall-speak “full-immersion.”
Who knows what the fuck it means…
Yuppy the Trendy Blog Boy. With an in-house Baptismal Font.

– Serious Professionals -and the degree of professionalism – is inversely proportional to a need or the time at work to be using phrases like “full immersion” wrt to one’s work that , uhm, when working, one necessarily is “fully immersed” in… And this is true of any line of work , labor or craft..

How did we end up with all these peddlers and parasites? Like History prof Marshall now in Commercial Regurgia with the commercial imperitive not to digest but hit that deadline? How did we get this slew of hemi-employed and demi-Pwog lawyers like Bonin and Kos? Or Whoever Marshall’s /Bloggee /Lawyer/ Dem hack is? Do they have a little piggy factory farm somewhere that breeds them? Specializing in little piggies for pets? Miniature Donks? What gives? Frankly, that these Bourgeois survive in any market indicates problems with its structure…

3. marisacat - 3 May 2009

hmm I gather Jon Stewart has apologised for calling Truman a war criminal, in his set-to with Cliff May.

The tear in the firmament is speedily mending.

When an American “satirist” apologizes for stating the truth, you can really appreciate “free expression” in a corporate-owned culture. Still, I enjoy Stewart, despite his pathetic ass-covering. Besides, he has to keep TDS anchor chair clean and warm for when Seth Meyers replaces him. It’s all about continuity, baby.

Well same deal with 1600 Penn. Avenue.

4. marisacat - 3 May 2009


Not like her charge to lead the Office of Urban Affairs within the WH was doing anything, so why not a waiver to work on her previous job, Vice Chair for bringing the Olympics to Chicago.

Did that crew actually LEAVE Chicago? (Do any of the administrations? Seems not.)

And,it’s all for USA!! USA!!, so no prob.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

BTW, I went back and found the article I had read on the … well …mess, basically, that is already plaguing the so called Office of Urban Whatever..

A very dispiriting read. From Dayo Olopade at The Root. Which I am sure used to be linked from the FP of the Wapo, but no longer seems to be.

In November 2008, less than one week after winning the votes of city dwellers by a margin of 28 points, President-elect Barack Obama announced he would reward them by creating the first-ever “White House Office of Urban Policy.” Like other new aspects of Obama’s executive branch, appointing a city czar was intended to fast-track communications among city governments, federal agencies and the White House. With great fanfare, Obama dispatched his friend and fellow Chicagoan Valerie Jarrett to tell America that he was making good on his campaign pledge to “stop seeing cities as the problem and start seeing them as the solution.”

At times, the mere existence of Urban Affairs is used as proof of its efficacy. “People have tried before to crack the skulls and break the silos,” says Douglas. “What’s different this time is that there is a new office that was created to do that…. So I think that speaks to the priority.”

Symbolism alone will not solve all of the pressing issues facing American cities. But many urban interest groups retain high hopes for the new office. “We’re all waiting and watching,” says Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, president of Green for All, which promotes green jobs for people of color. “For issues like retrofitting and weatherization, we need that office to be successful.” Team Obama is rarely shy about advertising its own successes. And the White House will undoubtedly hype several legislative and diplomatic victories during the 100-day sprint. So it’s worth waiting and watching to see if cities are indeed “the solution”—or if substantive, transformational change remains an urban legend.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

I’m not holding my breathe for them to do anything … gotta keep the Blooooo Dawgs hap-hap-happy, and they’re happy only when the white racist diaspora to the suburbs is happy.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

Well it’s nto like Ob or Jarrett cares… any farther than they can see in a fog.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

very true … it makes for uncomfortable silences at the better cocktail parties and coffee after the Board meetings.

5. Intermittent Bystander - 3 May 2009

Regarding the Derby upset, last thread – Kinda interesting that a long shot won big in the first supposedly steroid-free Derby ever.


Morning politicalcelebrity tidbit from Yourup: Silvio’s wife is gonna file for div-a-orce!

She reportedly said she could not be with a man who “consorted with minors”.

Snap! (And crackle, il Papa?!) Let the burlesquoni begin!

NYCO - 3 May 2009

It’s interesting that a 50-1 shot won in a steroid-free race. But it seems to me that the Ky. Derby has been going downhill since the early ’80s, when favorites abruptly stopped winning, giving us such memorable turf heroes such as Lil E Tee, Gato del Sol and Funny Cide (whose publicity-to-talent ratio will remain unparalleled in modern horse racing). Not to mention tragic breakdowns galore and most recently, a flashy, well known owner being found with a stable full of dozens of malnourished and diseased horses – in New York – Saratoga country – not exactly a horse racing backwater.

Drugged up, terminally inbred horses in a culture awash with money and “tradition” eventually mean that the public will get just as sick of the sport as they did of televised beauty pageants (and they are beginning to get sick of figure skating too). At the very least, although it would take decades, they need to open up the thoroughbred bloodlines and inject some other genes in there from different breeds. Maybe then the horses would have ankles stronger than champagne glass stems.

Intermittent Bystander - 3 May 2009


6. wu ming - 3 May 2009

that point by chomsky cannot be overstated. getting completely off oil would just give us a clean shot at unrestrained ME meddling. it’s always been more about controlling other people’s spice than using it oneself. about the only thing that’d actually get us out of the region was china going off oil as well. then, i suspect, we’d have to figure out how to start wars that threaten their water supply.

NYCO - 3 May 2009

If only that damned oil would just run out already! Peak Oil, Peak Oil, why hast Thou forsaken us?

The real irony of all this is that we could very well end up fighting for centuries over potential oil reserves which no one will ever have the wherewithal to fully develop, since it takes more and more energy to harvest reserves that haven’t been gotten to yet. We’ll be warring over the concept of oil.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

HA! New meaning for “war theory”…

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

Merck Makes Phony Peer-Review Journal

It’s a safe guess that somewhere at Merck today someone is going through the meeting minutes of the day that the hair-brained scheme for the Australasian Journal of Bone and Joint Medicine was launched, and that everyone who was in the room is now going to be fired.

The Scientist has reported that, yes, it’s true, Merck cooked up a phony, but real sounding, peer reviewed journal and published favorably looking data for its products in them. Merck paid Elsevier to publish such a tome, which neither appears in MEDLINE or has a website, according to The Scientist.

What’s wrong with this is so obvious it doesn’t have to be argued for. What’s sad is that I’m sure many a primary care physician was given literature from Merck that said, “As published in Australasian Journal of Bone and Joint Medicine, Fosamax outperforms all other medications….” Said doctor, or even the average researcher wouldn’t know that the journal is bogus. In fact, knowing that the journal is published by Elsevier gives it credibility!

These kinds of endeavors are not possible without help. One of The Scientist’s most notable finds is a Australian rheumatologist named Peter Brooks who served on the “honorary advisory board” of this “journal”. His take: “I don’t think it’s fair to say it was totally a marketing journal”, apparently on the grounds that it had excerpts from peer-reviewed papers. However, in his entire time on the board he never received a single paper for peer-review, but because he apparently knew the journal did not receive original submissions of research. This didn’t seem to bother him one bit. Such “throwaways” of non-peer reviewed publications and semi-marketing materials are commonplace in medicine. But wouldn’t that seem odd for an academic journal? Apparently not. Moreover, Peter Brooks had a pretty lax sense of academic ethics any way: he admitted to having his name put on a “advertorial” for pharma within the last ten years, says The Scientist. An “advertorial”? Again, language unfamiliar to us in the academic publishing world, but apparently quite familiar to the pharmaceutical publishing scene.

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

Just saw this highlighted on Crooks & Liars, went looking for the transcript: Specter on Press the Meat:

SEN. SPECTER: Well, well, since that time I undertook a very thorough survey of Republicans in Pennsylvania with polling and a lot of personal contacts, and it became apparent to me that my chances to be elected on the Republican ticket were, were bleak. And I’m simply not going to subject my 29-year record in the United States Senate to that Republican primary electorate. I’m not going to do that.

Now, with respect to the steamroller, I have shown repeatedly my independence, willing to cross party lines when I thought the interests of the American people in Pennsylvania were required it. Take one example: There’s a bill on employees choice known as Card Check, which would take away the secret ballot and impose mandatory arbitration. I said when I made the switch I’m still against that bill. Democrats are all for it, Republicans are all against it and I’m the critical vote. And if see that there are other issues where I feel as a matter of conscience, I will continue a filibuster against legislation.

MR. GREGORY: Are there other issues right now that you can name where you don’t see eye to eye with this president?

SEN. SPECTER: Well, I’m not going to start to explore a long range of issues. I, I’m not going to do that to…

MR. GREGORY: All right. Well…

SEN. SPECTER: You don’t, you, you don’t have enough time, David.


Oh, watching this hack play these games for the next two years is gonna be fun! Popcorn, with lots of butter and some brewer’s yeast!

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009


MR. GREGORY: I want to move on, though, to the question of what it took for the Democrats to get you. What were you offered? What inducements have you been given to switch parties?




MR. GREGORY: You won’t retain your seniority, as you move over, on, on key committees?

SEN. SPECTER: Well, that is, that is, that is true. But…

MR. GREGORY: That’s not an inducement, Senator?

SEN. SPECTER: Well, no, that’s an entitlement. I’ve earned, I’ve earned the seniority. I was elected in 1980. And I think that’s, that’s not a bribe or a gift or something extraordinary. I will be treated by the Democrats as if I’d been elected as a Democrat.

MR. GREGORY: What about how you stand for election? Has the Democratic Party–Leader Reid, Governor Rendell in Pennsylvania and the president himself–seen to it, have they seen to it that you will not face a primary challenger?

SEN. SPECTER: They have not. Flatly not.

MR. GREGORY: But the president said he’s going to campaign for you.


MR. GREGORY: Who’s going to step up against you when the president’s declared his intention in the primary?

SEN. SPECTER: Well, well, that’s a different question. You asked me if they’ve cleared the field, and they have not. There, there are two candidates in the field and there are others on the sidelines; one other, specifically, who’s talking about running. I didn’t ask them to clear the field. The reality is you can’t tell other people what to do. I’m prepared to run in a contested primary. But I don’t want to run against a stacked deck like I would have had to against the Republican primary electorate.

Intermittent Bystander - 3 May 2009

Maybe we do need entitlement reform, after all.

Up the bloody peerage!

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009


SEN. SPECTER: My core views are freedom, a woman’s right to choose, consistently voted for increasing the minimum wage, for expanding unemployment compensation, for the nuclear test ban treaty, where I broke with Republicans. I got into politics, David, as the result of the inspiration of my father, who was a Russian immigrant, who was a veteran in World War I. The government broke the promise to pay World War I veterans a bonus. And Harry Specter was a little guy. And you take a look at my record in the Senate, or my record in public life generally, I’ve always been for the little guy. I say in a sense that I, I’m on my way–I was on my way to Washington to get my father’s bonus. I haven’t gotten it yet, so I’m running for re-election. But I’ve helped the veterans. I’ve broken with the party on, on funding for veterans. I’ve broken with the party on voting for Social Security increases. My record has been issue-oriented, one at a time. And I think as a matter of principle–listen, the stimulus vote was a mighty big test. It cost me dearly with the Republicans. And I stood with the Democrats because I thought it was right. I thought otherwise this country might have been on the verge of a 1929 Depression. And I new it was politically problemsome, perhaps disastrous. I represent the people of Pennsylvania, not any political party.

MR. GREGORY: It was reported this week that when you met with the president you said, “I will be a loyal Democrat. I support your agenda.” Let me test that on probably one of the most important areas of his agenda, and that’s health care. Would you support health care reform that puts up a government-run public plan to complete with a private plan issued by a private insurance company?

SEN. SPECTER: No. And you misquote me, David. I did not say I would be a loyal Democrat. I did not say that. And last week, after I said I was changing parties, I voted against the budget because the budget has a way to pass health care with a 51 votes, which undermines a basic Senate institution to require 60 votes to impose cloture on, on key issues. But I…

marisacat - 3 May 2009

Two of yours out of Moderation Madman,,, sorry ti took forever…


catnip - 3 May 2009

So, why exactly was he a Republican all of these years?

(I thought that denial of being a “loyal” Dem was priceless.)

marisacat - 3 May 2009

I loved all the tripe about dear old dad and his canceled bonus.

catnip - 3 May 2009

Well, maybe somebody should fork over that bonus amount to Specter and tell him to finally move along. 😉

Your work here is done!

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

“look, I’m WORKING” … (tugs and straightens his tailored shirt sleeve within his handstitched custom suit) … “CLASS.”

11. marisacat - 3 May 2009

I am def catching MTP on the rerun… I slept straight thru This Week…

12. catnip - 3 May 2009

lol…title of a dkos wreck list diary about Obamalama supporting Specter: What is President Obama THINKING?

From the update:

Update Took “the hell” out of the title since it apparently rankles folks. And for the record, I’m perfectly calm, just confused. Yes, Obama is usually smarter than we are, but that doesn’t mean we can’t disagree with him because he is just a man and does/will make mistakes. :o) Great discussions going on in the comments though, so thanks!

Another one smacked into submission.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

they are all tightly bound, highly civil little servants, ready for the roasting pan.

13. marisacat - 3 May 2009

HA! Ijust heard a news update that said, “that flu may have been more sneeze than wheeze”.

Too funny.. then I looka t the FP of the NYT and see that Lufthansa has added a DOCTOR to flights to Mexico.

14. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

wow, you were kidding about the contentiousness between Danner and Fein. Weird … they’re on the same side, pretty much. They plainly really dislike each other.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

yeah I found it interesting. It seemed to come down to some unexpressed differing idea of “partisanship”… and some undercurrent battle about pro or con on prosecution. And i Had trouble following who meant what at times… Fein seems to be for official acknowlegement and official pardon of Bush Cheney et al… and yet Danner seemed conflicted on prosecution as well.

I found it odd.. hard to fathom and very very much there.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

Danner also seemed much more willing to accept how hard it was for politicians to do the things Fein was arguing needed to be done, and seemed annoyed that Fein was so insistent. I didn’t get the sense that Danner was much concerned w/ the whole “preserve the rule of law” and was worried more about torture policies as political/diplomatic problems, rather than legal problems. I found the whole “politicians MAKE the laws, no matter how much lawyers have a hard time accepting that” comment directed at Fein to be telling.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

i also got a sense off danner of unexpressed anger at reagan era horrors… which many [sullification for one] are glossing over. and i’d argue that negroponte is our bi-partisan proof. allthat hoopla over bush due sending negroponte to the un and to iraq.

clinton had no prob sending him as amb to the phillipines that bastion of democracy and the america way…and he was confirmed by voice vote. the congress loves killers as much as 1600 pa ave.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

I think you’re right about that. It was interesting to watch the two of them being so nasty over the details. I think you’re right that Danner was much more willing to indict both parties.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

I like Fein and enjoyed him on KGO the Friday night… before and on with Moyers but he is WAY too impressed that congress declared and legislated “torture” to be a federal crime. SO FUCKING WHAT? It hasn’t stopped anything.

One thing tho that has some out of the detailed exposure of torture sessions and the minute [supposed] perameters (sp?) of the infliction of pain … we are far along to codifying torture. It has more than a whiff of Nazi to it.

And worse, off the table right now but very salient, much has been released over the past months (C-punch) of what Patraeus’ counterinsurgency manual outlines. UGH. We are deep and far along into this… and on and on. It is now deeply embedded in a new way. Not saying it is new, but it is ever more entrenched. Even Ob’s mincing minuet embeds it. Mincing mincer that he is.

There is no great outcry at the doctors who participated, at the psychologists and others.. nor at the anthropologists and other academics who help define the territory, aspects of war and kill zones.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

we codified it in our prisons long ago, horrible regimes of structured degradation and humiliation, factories that produce violence and rape and more crime, feeding the whole thing again.

We have huge prisons that lock people away in solitary confinement, a system that was long-ago recognized to destroy the human mind. cops and jailers beat and even kill with almost total impunity.

The whole corruption has institutionalized cruelty, including the medical establishment and academia.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

oh I agree with that.

There was really only a lessening of a bad system across a very few decades or in isolated prisons that benefitted for whatever reason frm enlightened management… Most of that absolutely over… But we don’t have doctors standing by in prisons (not the way the torture minutes indicate), we have large, sprawling horror. Situations allowed, guided to deteriorate… with predictable results… I still see some level of difference between the two. I know it is just of degree… but still…and i know that people USE the presence of doctors in the torture sessions as some sort of amerlioration.. but to me it increases the horror.

Pelican Bay was opened here 20 years ago as an ultra secure, 24 hour a day lock down, state of the art prison. It has rarely never not been under federal indictment, federal investigation, etc.

It certainly constitutes torture in my mind, just of a different sort in the making.

Vaughn Dortch case

Torture was a charge from early in the prison’s history. In April 1992, prisoner Vaughn Dortch, who had suffered mental delusions and had been confined to the Violent Control Unit of the SHU, was ordered to bathe after having smeared himself with fecal matter. When he refused, prison guards forced him into a tub with hot water, resulting in burns[citation needed] to the lower parts of his body. He filed suit and the case was settled, resulting in a payment of $997,000 to Dortch. The settlement was ordered confidential by the presiding federal judge, but it was widely publicized by a 60 Minutes TV show on February 27, 1994.[2] The lead prison nurse later testified about this case in Madrid v. Gomez.

[edit] Madrid v. Gomez

A massive class-action lawsuit, Madrid v. Gomez, was filed on behalf of some 3,600 Pelican Bay prisoners in 1993, alleging various rights violations and cases of mistreatment. The federal district court judge Thelton Henderson found in January 1995 that prisoners had been subjected to excessive violence, cruel and unusual punishment, and substandard medical care; he ruled that mentally ill inmates could no longer be confined in the SHU and he appointed a special master, John Hagar to oversee the conditions at the prison.[3]

[edit] Riots

On February 23, 2000, a fight involving about 200 inmates broke out among rivaling black and Southern Mexican gangs in the exercise yard. Guards eventually used Mini-14 rifles, firing rubber bullets, to stop the riot. This did not control the situation and eventually, the guards chose to use real ammunition, killing one and injuring 15 inmates. The riot lasted for about 30 minutes; 19 inmates suffered stabbing or beating wounds. About 90 prison-made weapons were confiscated.[4]

15. catnip - 3 May 2009

Today’s installment of Arrogant Prickdom: Berlusconi says he world’s most popular leader

NAPLES (Reuters) – Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who has compared himself to Jesus Christ and Napoleon, boasted on Friday that he was the world’s most popular leader.

The conservative premier, in his third term in office, said opinion poll findings in his possession showed his popularity at just over 75 percent, making him far more popular than U.S. President Barack Obama — or any other head of government.

“The opinion polls I know say that he (Obama) is at 59 percent. Only (Brazilian President Luiz Inacio) Lula tops 60 percent — he is at 64 percent. So mine is a record high,” he told reporters in Naples where he attended a May Day concert.

On his way out of the concert hall, the 72-year-old Berlusconi — who has proclaimed himself the Jesus Christ of Italian politics and once said he was second only to Napoleon, except taller — was heckled by protesters who shouted “Go Away!.”

“Go Away”? lol How polite of them.

16. marisacat - 3 May 2009

oh brohter. i went to the NYT t find a big article that is supposed to run in the … Monday print version, some big investigation of Geithner and his cosiness with The Big Whizzes of Wall St, by Gretchen Morgensen… can’t find it online yet.

BUT in the Biz section they do have maps of farms in the US, organic, fruit, vegetable, dairy cow, etc.

Geesh. look at it and weep… prepare for the apocalypse. Some places are not going to make it. No vegetable, fruit or dairy farms. Years ago a friend of mine whose father in law’s business was trucking, had 3 big rigs… told me that truckers talked about how underserved parts of the nation were for fruits and vegetables.. and some would fill their trucks with the sort of fruit and veg that is deemed not “right” and meant for disposal and would truck it to some area they had a connection with and just open the truck for people to come. I just was unable to take it in. Then… Could nto process it.

They (NYT) also talk about how CA “organic” is really ‘organic agri biz’. Is that ever the truth. VERY hard to find flavor in any of it. Maybe if you know the farm, the grower, the orchard personally and know they vine ripen, which to me is among the most important… but most of it out here is overpriced and useless.

NYCO - 3 May 2009

They say California is the nation’s foodbasket, but that really depends on oil (for transport). If Californians can’t get tasty produce in their own state, that sounds really sad.

I don’t buy strawberries any more out of season because they’re so hideous. I don’t know where they’re coming from (I suspect California, or maybe even farther away), but they’re mostly white core and very little juicy red pulp. In strawberry season here I can drive out straight from work on a Friday and 20 minutes later be in the field picking my own quarts on someone’s farm.

That’s not to say NY doesn’t have its own problems with large dairy farms and manure lagoons, one of which burst a few years ago and leaked into a major river (the Black River), killing thousands of fish. The city of Watertown was alerted just in time to shut down its municipal water intake before the shit literally hit the turbines.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

well we do still have good strawberries, from ordinary sources. I let them ripen till they are almost beyond eating, but not mush… But i don’t bother with them out of season… when they are flown up from S America, Chile i think… They can be good, but no real need to pay that price as soon enough they are in season.

tougher to find with flavor are peaches, nectarines, plums — and tomatoes are just shameful.

17. marisacat - 3 May 2009

What a scream! I am just catching up to The Hill article of the 29th…

[S]ome Democratic senators want only to count Specter’s time in the Democratic Party toward his seniority in the caucus. That would place him behind Sens. Roland Burris (D-Ill.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Michael Bennet (D-Colo.).

Specter would still be more senior than Al Franken, who is expected to be seated as Minnesota’s junior senator later this year.

Specter, however, is confident that his deal will hold.

“I feel comfortable relying on the arrangements I made with Sen. Reid. I’ve talked to many Democratic senators in the past couple of days and they have all greeted me with open arms,” Specter said in a statement to The Hill.

which is utterly belied by the rest of the article. Some of the quotes are hilarious. I wonder if Reid and whoever else was instrumental in thsi deal didn’t buy themselves a lot of animosity from senior senators.

May they all claw each other to death.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

if anything demonstrates that Reid shouldn’t be the majority leader, it is this deal. He got the caucus exactly NOTHING. Not that I care … the donk party is corrupt beyond repair without replacing most of them … but watching the sheer incompetence is amazing. It’s like watching so many of the big companies run into the ground by corruption and incompetence.

marisacat - 3 May 2009

Reid is awful. And I HATED Daschle… but that did not improve Reid one whit.

18. marisacat - 3 May 2009

YAY! Petition nailed to the door of the dean of Stanford, demanding that the U severl ties wtih Miss Condi, this is signed by students and tenured professors. (will find a report, picking it up from local 5 pm news)

40 years ago a petition was nailed to the door demanding an end to secret mil experiments at Stanford. (well they all still take shakey as hell federal money… sooo… but fwiw).

marisacat - 3 May 2009

Huff Po has something up about it

[T]he former students, faculty and outside agitators who gathered at Stanford this weekend were celebrating the 40th anniversary of the April 3rd Movement, in which a nine-day take-over of the Applied Electronics Laboratory and ensuing street protests brought an end to secret military research at Stanford.

That movement began in October 1968, when many of those now attending the reunion had nailed a document on the door of the trustees’ office demanding that Stanford “halt all military and economic projects and operations concerned with Southeast Asia.”

Recalling that moment, the veterans on Sunday delivered a petition from “Stanford Say No to War” that stated: “Our former Provost, current Political Science Professor, and Hoover Institution Senior Fellow, Condoleezza Rice, should be held accountable for any serious violations of the law (including ratified treaties, statutes and/or the U.S. Constitution) through investigation and, if the facts warrant, prosecution by appropriate legal authorities.”

A3M leader Marjorie Cohn, now president of the National Lawyers’ Guild, said, “By nailing this petition to the door of the president’s office, we are telling Stanford that the university should not have war criminals on its faculty. There is prima facie evidence that Rice approved torture and misled the country into the Iraq war. Stanford has an obligation to investigate those charges.” …snip…

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

hey, good on them!

I hope they keep up the pressure.

marisacat - 4 May 2009

I think htere is going to be a rising tide here against her. In the state.

Right now the CW is that Stanford likes having a former NSA former SofS, etc., on campus. HOWEVER I noticed a lot of older women, attys teachers and whatever else in the crowd for the Great Door Nailing… and last night or the night before the local news here had a full professor of Political Science at I forget which Northern Ca school just calmly demolishing Condi.

It could grow.

Protests kept Rumsfeld from being able to join the Hoover Institute as a summer visiting Hoo Hoo a couple years ago…

19. marisacat - 3 May 2009

hmm jsut saw the full clip of the Derby race, thru to the finish and then the sort of victory ride iwth the blanket of roses.

Absolutely fantastic. A great win and for the jockey too.

20. marisacat - 3 May 2009


Schweine Flu is proving highly providential. ALL CA prisons are now shut to visitors, ”for the foreseeable future”. Due to one “probable” case somewehre in S Cal.

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 May 2009

Joe Sestak on Specter: I’m Not Sure He’s a Democrat Yet

KING: So I want to put up a screen because I want you to address your answer to the president and those Democrats who say Arlen Specter is their guy, but also to Democratic primary voters in the state of Pennsylvania.

Do you think the person they want as their next United States senator for six more years is someone who, as Senator Specter did, voted yes on the bush tax cuts; yes to authorize force in Iraq; yes to confirm Chief Justice Roberts; yes to confirm Justice Alito; and just this past week voted no on President Obama’s budget — is that the kind of person you want to sell to the Democratic primary electorate in Pennsylvania?

SESTAK: No — and the person who’s sitting, as you and I speak, in Landmark (ph) Diner, in Upper Darby, Delaware County of my district, I think, would say the same thing.

Too many jobs have been lost for us to worry about somebody else’s job who has switched parties. I don’t know for sure it’s about political survivability, but I know this. It’s not about trying to maintain a legacy or somebody’s job.

KING: Is he a good enough Democrat?

SESTAK: I’m not sure he’s a Democrat yet. And that doesn’t mean we don’t want bipartisanship. My gosh, I won in a district that was 53 percent Republican, 36 percent Democrat. What I need to know is, what’s the principles you’re running for…

Battle of the Blooooo Dawgs …

marisacat - 3 May 2009


yes to confirm Chief Justice Roberts; yes to confirm Justice Alito

Obster wanted to vote for Roberts, a senior aid (who has been named in reports, but i forget it) told him to vote “NO”, that it would prove difficult in a Dem primary. As I read somewhere today, the elites disdain primaries, then have to bother with them.

LOL yeah no shock he did that fucking DUMB diary (imo, but obviously not for the various and sundry in the bleachers) at Kos about not being mean to those who voted for Roberts.

22. BooHooHooMan - 3 May 2009

Witness for Jesus’ in Afghanistan

Bagram has a thriving evangelical
Christian community

US soldiers have been encouraged to spread the message of their Christian faith among Afghanistan’s predominantly Muslim population, video footage obtained by Al Jazeera appears to show.

Military chaplains stationed in the US air base at Bagram were also filmed with bibles printed in the country’s main Pashto and Dari languages….

At Last! Praise Jeezis! What Providence! :

Options for Obama in Pakistan Are Limited

U.S. is fighting extremists through an army over which it has little control and allied with a government in which it has little confidence.

Yes, our Imperial Evangelism… going so well!
Just Greeted with Palms when riding in on a Donk:

Pakistan Taliban pact under strain

The Taliban in Pakistan has beheaded two government officials in Swat valley in the North West Frontier Province – revenge for the killing of two commanders, police say.

The announcement was made as Pakistani authorities appealed on Sunday to Taliban fighters to lay down their weapons.

OBAMA owns it now. The Fool.

marisacat - 4 May 2009

I’ll raise you a crusade. And it is so clear we are trading Gitmo (IF we close it) and keeping Bagram. All the “bad” stuff takes place in the Afghani run part.

How convenient. Like saying slaves were only in the So.

BooHooHooMan - 4 May 2009

We’re fucked.
Elections in this country have no consequence whatsoever.

As a Society, We deserve our burt out state of affairs and bankrupt economy, having tolerated the lying and thieving for so long. As individuals, some much moreso than others. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the sales and managerial class of one sort or other who have next to no prospect now of meaningful exchange of service to others, the avoidant midlings who built this hypercompetitive Materially Acquisitive Machine, – stood by it, “turned on” they were – then the damn fools were sucked in , chopped up and spit out.

Now we have new apologists approaching the grinder,
“Malfunctions, yes, but confidence and some adjustments are in order..” they say.
“Give him time” this next round (and next in line set) of asskissers say of the new Exec working with the Old Board, hopeful to handle the levers, happy for the invite to approach the whirling gears…

marisacat - 4 May 2009

well I feel for ordinary retail people… the whole thing swamped the country, for decades now, in many places small and medium there was nothing else to do.

So much is nto coming back, at least not for a long time.. and if one more pol prattles (and Boxer is REALLY guilty of this) that there will be millions of new “Green Jobs” I am going to spit.

Do I worry about bond traders (just as an example… Kirbyjon Campbell, minister to both Ob and W was one)? Sales reps for various companies who made hundreds of thousands a year in a soul sucking mess? In a way.. but all things end, sad to say.

What 2010 and 2011 look like politically, I have no idea. All of Ob and Obling’s projections were built from cotton candy, tinted very bright pink. So, Good Luck.

23. marisacat - 4 May 2009

moiv just popped me this. Can’t someone drop markos down a sump pump?

BooHooHooMan - 4 May 2009


DH: How’s the economic side of it? Are you down in advertising?

MM: I’m down horrifically. January was my first profitable January in the site’s history. Usually, the first quarter is a disaster. And I always start panicking around early March. And then things always pick up and this year, I was profitable in January, so I thought, this is great and I thought we won’t have this first quarter downturn. And February was death.

March was death until a couple of campaigns game through to pull us out of the gutter. But we were extremely profitable last year. And we have a significant chunk of change that we can live off. We have no debt. We’ve never had anybody invest in the company. We don’t owe anybody anything. So it’s a kind of good place to be. We have some money to play with, to ride out what’s hopefully just a bad quarter, It’s scary out there. Economically.

Organizations like the ACLU were big advertisers, and they had money wrapped up in [Bernie] Madoff. They had to cut their budget, they had to cut staff. So of course, the last thing they’re going to worry about is advertising. Understandably so.

And we have to assume that things are going to be tough and hope for the best but assume that things are going to be the worst. Like I said, we have reserves to work from. So we’re going to be fine, longer term. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t lose sleep over it sometimes.

Classic Markos.”I’m down Horrifically” / “All will be well”

I bet the ACLU doesn’t see a fliff of increased support or membership from their advertising on Dailykos.

His bu buh bubba “We were extremely profitable last year”
It’s gonna be a lonnnnnnng three years brother…

And all that money from a combative PA Sen Primary? Poof. LOL.

marisacat - 4 May 2009

HA! I took a break where he said Alinsky’s tactics were out of date. And I wished for the sump pump to gobble him up.

BooHooHooMan - 4 May 2009

Hey’s going to be lucky to get a cocktail weenie out of Specter in PA OR the Unions. Despite his availability on Twitter now!

Neither consulting nor giving a shit about Markos, They’ll broker their own compromise on EFCA, conserve cash and avoid association with —rich irony here–>”Leftischer” “Radicals” like Markos. He really has a positioning problem. Not like his “rad” front is in vogue anymore, Howard is gone, the DNC firmly in control of Clintonites, Menendez fronting for Schumer at the DSCC. The rigged dynamic in the PA Sen race, will replicate itself. They are NOT going to see another Connecticut circus, with Markos picking up the carmal corn concession… Nor is he better off coming clean and swimming to the overt middle. Not much demand for the bland. . So Good Luck Markos!

As for the demi- faux rad market position ,
All your Kos and Josh are belong to HuffPo.
At least she has the savvy to publish direct criticism of The One , diluted it is by her praise. Markos site is All Fanboy, All the (give it) Time…

He’s gonna find he’s fucked in every ironic orifice: Trying to market FAUX dissent during an incumbancy after REAL efforts at dissent were rejected by the Party and Partisans when they allegedly were in “the oppositon” and had little to lose. And the fucker knows he marginalized, he was one of the waterboys. He’s squirming to keep up appearances for ad revenue relevance …

marisacat - 4 May 2009

hmm I caught his/Kos’ slam at Tapper.

And Josh at TPM ran against Halperin for days and in fact weeks when Halperin has dared to be critical. after Halperin’s last appearnce on Charlie Rose he just pulled back and turned that bulletin board that is The Page into a rah rah.
I assume if 2010 is rough or 2011 is a mess he will take a pound or two of flesh…

LOL they’ve all gotta wade thru the masses of bright pink cotton candy Ob and Oblings excreted all over the place.

BooHooHooMan - 4 May 2009

What a peddler. And backpedaller…

DH: Are you Twittering?

MM: Yeah. As of last week. I was down at South by Southwest, and it was infective. It was all anyone could talk about . So I thought, “I could get into this.” So I started last week.

DH: Big news: Markos Tweets!


MM: I wrote that Geithner was starting to look like Obama’s [Donald] Rumsfeld. Meaning, sort of clinging to someone who looks out of their element, and doesn’t seem to have the answers or the confidence. So Fox News picked it up. It was their headline: “Kos says that Geithner is Obama’s Rumsfeld,” which is not what I said. I guess it’s just one more place where people can take my words out of context.

DH: Anything you want to get on the record before we close this down?

MM: I guess I’ll make one point: After Obama won the election, people talked a lot about how it’s going to be the death of the netroots. “They won, what are people gonna talk about, what are they gonna do?”

And nobody’s really asking that anymore.

“And nobody’s really asking that anymore.”
Except, um , for that interview you just gave, dumbass.

There has been a realization that Obama still has an agenda to sell.

Whaddy know? A True pearl before…

We still have Democrats who are not doing their job and need to be knocked out. And that Minnesota Senate race! …..{SNIP} 🙄

It’s so old

24. BooHooHooMan - 4 May 2009

I’m sorry here.
But Markos can suck a dick.

He has the BALLS IN HIS MOUTH to talk about BANNING after he ran off Cindy Sheehan, and banned you, and everyone else who was critical of him, his blog or the Democrats based on FACTS, their votes, his actions….

That little shitstain couldn’t bear one word of feedback from women like you who called him on his derisive fratboy bullshit, the very thing Josh Marshall – hello?!?? – is being confronted now

with walkouts. Oh well, SUCK MORE, Markos.

Moulitsas. —- > What a fuckin blowjob:

Jake Tapper of ABC News had an incident recently. He was slammed for something he wrote about Obama. And he started banning people from his Twitter feed and it turned into this huge outcry in the Twitter world (laughing), and he ended up backing off. He banned Talking Points Memo at one point! He banned one of the guys from the American Prospect.

GMAFB. Moulitsas a creep.
As is his lackey Dana Houle who he features. Yet He allowed that other toady, the smug young lawyer and small-time Democratic operative Jason Melrath to remain on his site , encouraged him to post under yet another pseudonym to draw less attention after he called a well read woman on his site a ‘Cunt”.

He refers to himself as an “activist”.
What a joke.
He ran off Cindy Sheehan.

“Good Riddance Attention Whore”
by CindySheehan
Mon May 28, 2007 at 09:57:01 AM PDT

I have endured a lot of smear and hatred since Casey was killed and especially since I became the so-called “Face” of the American anti-war movement. Especially since I renounced any tie I have remaining with the Democratic Party, I have been further trashed on such “liberal blogs” as the Democratic Underground. Being called an “attention whore” and being told “good riddance” are some of the more milder rebukes.

And then BANNED her from his site, despite HER criticism of the Democratic Establishment based on FACTS, Pelosi’s refusal to defund the Iraq War, and to take action against the patent corruption of Cheney and the Bush Administration, despite gaining control of the House of Representatives after the 2006 Elections on promises to do so..

I have been “warned”
by CindySheehan
Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 06:16:05 AM PDT

I can’t post here anymore because my potential run for Congress
is not on the Democratic ticket.

I have been deeply grateful for all of your support over the years. Your love and kindness helped me through lots of sleepless nights at Camp Casey ’05.

If Speaker Pelosi does her constitutionally mandated duty and I don’t run, then I can come back and post.

I know a lot of you are hostile towards my candidacy. Please understand that I am doing it for your children and grandchildren (and my surviving ones.)

Love always,

He is a NOTHING. A FRAUD. A punk with a law degree willing to trade servility for a crafted image, some money, and a modicum of access to Politicians. He is a poster boy for all of his ilk, the conniving clusterfuck of American Narcissists on the make. The unaccountable sorts who produce nothing but ruin in their wake. And could care less.

catnip - 4 May 2009

Markos, called Kos by most in the blog movement, has had an unusual path to activism and progressive stature, given that he served in the U.S. military from 1989 to 1992, was formerly a Republican and was trained in the CIA for some period of time before he became involved in the Howard Dean presidential campaign in 2003.

Paging Francis Holland…


And what the heck does “infective” mean? (The man is so illiterate.)

NYCO - 4 May 2009

Eh, they’re all fighting over a collapsing souffle anyhow.

25. Intermittent Bystander - 4 May 2009

A Bloombergized doozie on the corporate tax change proposals coming out today: Obama Wants to End Tax Rules That Save Companies $190 Billion

“This is bad stuff,” Kenneth Kies, a tax lobbyist at the Washington firm Federal Policy Group, said of Obama’s plans. “This is going to be the biggest fight for the corporate community in the next two years.” Kies represents General Electric Co., Anheuser-Busch Cos. and Microsoft Corp., among others

While the Obama administration expects companies to lobby against the proposals, the president believes his tax proposals strike at loopholes that give multinational companies an unfair advantage over companies that operate only within the U.S., an Obama official said last night on condition of anonymity.

In 2004, U.S.-based multinational corporations paid about $16 billion of U.S. tax while earning about $700 billion offshore, or an effective tax rate of about 2.3 percent, an administration official said. The top marginal tax rate for U.S. companies is 35 percent.

More at the link.

Happy Monday, all.

marisacat - 4 May 2009

HA! Thanks for that IB… and I see it is riding at the top of the NYT… off to read.

My own guess, sitting in cold rain water as I am 🙄 is he needed a populist headline. Along with his pigs have wings statement the other day that he “stands with the workers at Chrysler”.

26. marisacat - 4 May 2009

Hey hey… a new Susan Boyle tape has surfaced… 1984 amateur effort at a pub… (the Today Show had it)

27. marisacat - 4 May 2009

Gah. What ever you do in life, don’t let a stray breast out and about in the world… esp not in front of the TeeeVeee cameras. Or the shut ins on the SC..

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday ordered a federal appeals court to re-examine its ruling in favor of CBS Corp. in a legal fight over entertainer Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction.

The high court on Monday directed the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia to consider reinstating the $550,000 fine that the Federal Communications Commission imposed on CBS over Jackson’s breast-baring performance at the 2004 Super Bowl. …snip…

catnip - 4 May 2009

Haven’t they got better things to do?

marisacat - 4 May 2009

Clearly not…

28. marisacat - 4 May 2009

hmm now he says the off shore tax haven thing-a-roo will net 210 billion over 10 years.

Dialing for dollars went UP!

Like the stock market!

29. cad - 4 May 2009

If there was any in the seemingly endless reasons why Markos shoulda been outed as the phony libertarian authoritarian he’s always been in his li’l Black Ops heart, it was the revolting way the “progs” at DK turned on Sheehan the second she offered an accurate historical take on Democrats. You could put up a split screen of dozens of “Thank You Cindy” diaries to “STFU Attention Whore” most likely from the same lemmings.

The few times I’ve seen her name pop up there since is usually from a Kossass writing a variation of “Too bad Sheehan went batshit crazy. She had to be banned.” This from the supposed liberals concerned over the Iraq war and its effects.

And that smug smirking manchild Markos sits back stroking himself to the discord, which is what he loves most. Like any proto-Republican who secretly views life as The Big Game.

Amazing that nobody ever calls out Kos for the phony he’s always been. But then you wouldn’t have the blogosphere stroke sesions where they wax prophetic about all that Chevron ad revenue, branding and the wonders of twitter…

marisacat - 4 May 2009

And that smug smirking manchild Markos sits back stroking himself to the discord, which is what he loves most.

bingo on that

[sorry you were stuck in Mod for so long… 😳 ]

30. marisacat - 4 May 2009



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