Support the troops! You damn well better… 7 May 2009
Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, WAR!.trackback
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This home on Holly Dr in the hills above Santa Barbara goes up in flames as a wind whipped brush fire roared through the area on Wed. May 6, 2009. Fierce winds blew a wildfire into Southern California homes Wednesday, forcing thousands of people to flee as columns of smoke rose from a scenic coastal enclave. Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Drew Sugars said 5,430 homes were under mandatory evacuation. The estimated population of those homes was 13,575 people, he said. [AP Photo/Mike Meadows]
Support the troops. Go to college. Save money. Spend money. Buy a house. Invest. Or don’t.. be wise smart healthy friendly kind good but not if it means LOSING. Have children, mind the children, punish the children, save the children. USE the children.
Light the fire! Put out the fire, douse the fire.. All fired up! Where are we going?
Suck it up, spit it out. Hold it in let it go. Bombardment. Aerial bombardment.
Every news presentation a medical BREAKTHRU… but strangely we go on dying. The goal is to die, and move on — but not til 150. So keep trying. Try harder! Don’t smoke. OR, smoke and tax a newly legal tobacco. That’ll work! Sure why not.
What a crap heap.
The anniversay of Kent State… no need to worry about the horrors of……… a [front door] draft. An economy this lousy (things are looking up! Geithner said so! So did Ob.. so did Summers!) and enlistment is no problem. No problem at all.. a volunteer army. And don’t you dare forget it.
I heard an ad today, no kidding, that GE is “the most military friendly company in the US”. I bet it is. As is NBC and MSNBC. And CNBC. And all the other alphabets.
Soon alphabet soup will come with a tiny AK 47 in the mix. Funnily enough, I read over and over it is a better weapon, more reliable in the tough weather of the ME, ground zero of our global war, than our comparables. Doesn’t that say a lot.
AMY GOODMAN: And explain what you saw when you were standing there.
ALAN CANFORA: Well, I saw the Guardsmen reach the hilltop, and we expected that they were just retreating. It looked like they were going away, back over the hill where they had come from. But suddenly, at the hilltop, out of seventy-six Guardsmen, only about a dozen from Troop G stopped, turned. They began to fire. They continued to fire for thirteen seconds. The closest student was sixty feet away. He was wounded. Another student ninety feet away was wounded. I was near the bottom of the hill with my roommate. We were both shot and injured. And then, behind us, in a parking lot, is where all of the four students were killed, at distances of between 265 and 400 feet. So it was nothing but a slaughter. They fired into the distant parking lot, because that’s where the most radical and vocal students were gathered.
AMY GOODMAN: And were you shot first?
ALAN CANFORA: I think I was. I think was the first student shot. I was waving a black flag of protest that day. I carried that black flag as a symbol of my despair and my anger, because only ten days earlier I attended my friend’s funeral. He was killed in Vietnam at age nineteen. So that was very fresh in my memory, and that’s why I joined the protests and I helped lead the protests May 1st through 4th in 1970. And that’s what led to me being shot.
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Smoke from the Jesusita fire seen from the shoulder of the southbound 101 heading into Santa Barbara on Wednesday afternoon. [LAT readers’ photos, Rick Kelly]
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AMY GOODMAN: Do you feel like Kent State understands the history today?
ALAN CANFORA: Kent State understands it, yeah. In fact, the university administration here gets it more than ever. But I think it’s important for people to understand the legacy of Kent State, the wrongfulness of the massacre. It was murder. It was intentional. There was an order to fire. I think it’s very clear that the state government and the federal government were involved.
We’re still working on that, revealing the truth about that order to fire, for example. Next week, I’m going to California. The tape recording, which proved the order to fire, is going to be analyzed for a national TV show. So we’re going to try to find out who gave that order, and we’re convinced that the order ultimately would go to the White House. President Nixon had a vendetta against Kent State SDS since 1968, when we went over to Akron and disrupted his speech in October of ’68 at Akron University. And Nixon was very vindictive, and we think that maybe he worked with the governor to give the order to shoot and kill here at Kent State, a working-class school, not a Yale or a Harvard or a Berkeley, where a lot of rich kids went to school.
And so, they decided to shoot students here to try to terrorize or silence the antiwar movement, but it backfired, because it triggered the only national student strike in US history. Over four million students protested from coast to coast during the national student strike of May 1970. Hundreds of universities were shut down. And that was the high point in the history of American student activism. So if Nixon tried to silence the antiwar movement by killing the students here, it backfired entirely, and it triggered the only national student strike in US history.
Oh Nixon was so bad. Bad bad bad. He was. AND grace a dieu he LOOKED bad! Shifty as all hell. What luck. Reagan was bad. Bad bad bad. But he looked like a wrecked old B movie star. Auburn hair, orange cheek spots, all he needed was a pouting, bee stung mouth… Fixer for GE…groomed by William F Buckley for fixer greatness…
People seemed to like that, tho his favorables have risen under careful R revisionism and tutelage. The Dems helped.
Don’t they always.
‘120 die’ as US bombs village
Well here is a dicey little dissection of murderous mediocrity… from Truth Out. None other than “counterinsurgency guru” (and why is he not a czar?) Kilcullen, with “impeccable Pentagon bona fides” says they are counterproductive. Meaning the drones. But it seems that Ob is not listening. … but no greater mediocrity than Doyle McManus of the LAT says this, from Kilicullen, gives political cover.
So whaddup.
So mysterious… they tell us he listens. Intently. That it is part of his constitution Oh yes, I am laughing.
He “listens” alright – to the wrong people. As long as Karzai remains gutless and the US honchos can continue to insist that Pakistan’s million-man army can’t control the situation within its borders (while using the nuke scare as collateral), nothing will change.
He owns it now. He can take credit for it all going down (literally) in flames.
Karzai isn’t gutless, just corrupt.
Our man in Kabul.
NPR was quoting a source that the Taliban ‘threw grenades’ into the crowd to “frame” the US forces.
What “source”? The pentagon?
They quote “US soldiers” who told them about it. Here’s the link.
RFLMAO … what a silly country this is: Dijon Derangement Syndrome: Conservative media attack Obama for burger order
There are plenty of reasons to mock those two, but MUSTARD? Dijon mustard is all over the place.
They need to chill. He ordered it “medium well”. A place that supposedly prides itself on it’s 10 ozs of beef in a burger.
arugula and dijon mustard is fucking great on burgers, if you’ve got it lying around. ditto for egg salad sandwiches.
I put a post up: Chickenshit Nation
Jeffrey Rosen, TNR and the anonymous smears against Sonia Sotomayor
They (Repub and wingers) are up to something with this slithery coming from all sides, A Gay Would Be OK! campaign too. I don’t see Ob nominating a gay however. No way, if a Bloomberg article I read during the night is more than puffery… would Rahm, leader of the pack to hunt for the nom, nor MO first advisor and a long ago grad of HLS (she is no longer even a member of the bar, something most strivers hold on to) .. nor would elderly Abner Mikva permit such a thing.
But the Repubs are up to somethnig. That, and the surround sound against Sotomayor.
who knows what they’re thinking.
I expect some hack politician like Granholm to be the pick.
Great Piece, marisa.
And so…..
Very
sad.
For anyone slightly cognizant and old enough, they can recall it like it was yesterday, Kent State, but just God Awful for the victims. … I’ve noticed this before, in so many that have been brutalized in our names – that live and manage to speak ,that is… In so many cases of Traumatic Stress { (c) –USA! USA! } …they are given to speaking in the present tense, as Canfora does in describing the day of the killings and his friend Jeff Miller… AS IF Miller still IS from Queens, perhaps clinging to life on that stretcher.Canfora speaks of the incident, now, no differently than one might expect of a shell shocked victim if the incident occurred just moments before…
PTSD Nation, weCanfora’s mind yields to the present : “His mother still lives there…” ..Yet hovers in the perma-present scar :
But I think it brings one, it brings me at least, to a sad disagreement…
I think the terror against conscience ‘worked” in turning Boomers into the very “Silent Majority” so brutally- so efficiently so – that Nixon was mere prelude…a point elucidated so well in your post, mcat.
Here is Canfora on the working-class targeting as intentional, (something I see as tied into Presidential Swing State Imperatives)::
Akron and Kent State are indeed working class schools, the overwhelming majority of Students in state, from Ohio…
Here, the sad disagreement, tho…..as it did not “backfire” with any measure of gain by ’72, Nixon won in a landslide. It did not backfire in the longrun for the PTB either. Canfora knows this of course, in an implicit acknowledgment of what could have been…
Ohio remained thereafter in the Overt War Party, (the unashamed of saying so War Party at least…as opposed to their Talking Left, Walking Right counterparts, the Democrats..)–
For how many years thereafter was Ohio reliably Republican?
{This Obamirage aside till the next PTB “reminder”}
The shots- quite the message when smashing through brain matter when young – those shots -and the NEVER “Post” Traumatic message stressed –> heard loud and clear around the country. IMO, terrorizing the moderate white working class so invested that their kids would cash in on some Post World War II Peace Dividend and Shared Prosperity American Dream.
Quite the awakening from the American Dream turned
Daytime /No-Snapping-Out-of-It Nightmare.
Ohio and in Western Pa., {which contributed most of the out of state students to the school} got the message. PA flaked off a 700,000+ “Meat and Potatoes” Democratic Voter Reg advandage in election after ensuing election over the last three decades till – and I’ll agree here with the Bill Clinton – “FantasyLand” (He should know) …
Yes, Ohio stayed Republican and Western PA lined up for every Democratic Con, Santorum’s election being little distinction and natural outgrowth of Agenda Dictators of one sort or other…
The Akron/ Kent area was once Firestone country, tire manufacture for an auto industry that would never meet road’s end. That was before the So-Closely-Tied-to-The-Oil-and-War Industry Rubber Barons decamped, and , as mcat previously noted , in the case of the Firestone family, they left enmasse , and are “living like Lords”, Roaring Twenties style , now. In Turkey.
Indeed, mcat. The brutal message was sent and sent again and again:
Support the troops! You damn well better…
Helluva thing when thinking of things, all things surrounding Kent State then and since, Helluva thing when in retrospect, one considers that rubber bullet manufacturing might have been a Godsend..
I am a bad googler so I hve never tried to find it… but other than Kent and Jackson… (a few weeks later, I think) and the others… iirc there was also a student protest in Texas where the NG (or whoever was called, I assume NG) used their bayonets.
I agree, it plainly worked, and the war only ended b/c the powers that be got sick of paying for it.
The Boll Weevils pulled their support. From what I have read.
Which I think tho does not diminish the campus revolt NOR the revolt in the battle field. I mean, enlisted men pushing helicopters off warships is not nothing. Among other things.
Which I think tho does not diminish the campus revolt NOR the revolt in the battle field. I mean, enlisted men pushing helicopters off warships is not nothing. Among other things.
I agree.
It was the closest we came, nothing like it since. Put the fear of Mammon into the PTB too, considering the commercialization of outrage in the media, and breaking the unset hip repeatedly over Viet Nam.
So close towards a shift. Governments have fallen in Europe with little more than a sneeze at that point from workers.. With mobilized unions Not here. Not here in the Yous Ess of Ehs. The Union movement ?
(save Chavez and the like) totally AWOL. or WORSE.
Mcat or another OG&P’er recently mentioned The Hard Hat Riot in NY that occurred a few days after Kent State. A couple of hundred Union Goons marauding for Law and Order, attacked protesters, putting scores of people in the hospital.
Get this I was up by the city the other day , at a 7-11 gas pump on the Jersey side, a late 50-ish guy in a truck with a Union Sticker on the window, IBEW , notoriously corrupt, (controlled by George Norcross in Jersey, family of Union thugs, Georgie turned Dem Chair, Commerce? Bank CEO… )
Anyways, while the attendant pumps gas, the guy with the Electricians Book is scrounging through the truck, barks out a face-save to the attendant he’s looking for change to buy a pack of smokes. Not a problem the change scrounging, ya ask me, I consider sofa cushions a key element in my retirement plan, any retirement plan now…. But he’s got the IBEW sticker, AND an American Flag with the word “Pride” grunted out in some font, AND a Fraternal Odor of Police Sticker in the window. (the juju to supposedly ward of speeding tickets). On the Tailgate? TWO others: one a Confederate flag (IN JERSEY) and this gem: “I’ll forgive Jane Fonda When the Jews Forgive Hitler”. Priceless.
So I took a picture on my cell phone through the windshield as I was behind him in line at the pump. ( I’ll post a link up to Flickr when I download it off, I don’t have a web enabled phone.)
Well, being Pro-Organized Labor ~ NOT Organized Crime~
I simply could not pass up the opportunity to get out and bust his ignoramus balls: “So Lookin for Money, eh? How’s the work comin out of the IBEW???”
“Nah. can’t buy a job now.”
“No kiddin?” I say. “Yeh , well the Union should take care of you- “, I say in faux sympathy. Relief came over the guys face upon finding his last dime.
“See?!? Good Luck!” I added as the guy hustled towards the store’s door. LOL. The utter fucking imbecile.
Golly. Did the Neo-Decider have anything to say about the anniversary of the Kent State shootings? (Sorry, it’s a dumb monicker, but I can’t get all het up about his mustard choices if FOX did it first.)
Hey, catnip lives!! (Whew!)
Did the Neo-Decider have anything to say …
Our man in DC
My spidey senses told me that ms x had made a cameo appearance so, of course, I had to drag my virus-infected self out of bed to see that!
Change.
Well the Nazis built roads, so did Eisenhower… So did Haussmann.. I am sure we can remedy that last observation. Make AfPak war ready. And prison ready. And hardened base ready.
Ob’s war.
War! What would a president be without one?
Say, that sounds like an ad slogan. “Obama” is a fun term to plug into this Ad Slogan Generator, but “War” is even MORE fun.
Kashkari is on with Charlie. Geesh. Geithner last night, Kashkari tonight.
The boys are out with their billion dollar begging bowls. Save the Banks! Feed them money!
I’ll be an ugly american in Italy this summer for a couple of weeks. First 2 week vacation in about 11 years. Have to hook up with the family in Tuscany, but that is only 3-4 days of it. I know I want to be in Rome for 4 days to explore the ancient shit. Beyond that, I’m thinking a few days in Salerno & the surrounding [Pompei] and some days up in the ‘five lands’ in Liguria. Note… at least 5 days of this vacation I must be on the coast, swimming in that wonderful body of water.
Any suggestions? Also – I prefer ancient ruins to christian shit. Being that I’m a pagan and all.
omigod. Have a double Negroni for me. Big wedge of blood orange with it… Somewhere near the sea…. one of the little towns in teh rocky outcrop of a coast in the five lands.
Just submitting my passport renewal tomorrow… will buy the tickets over the weekend…
God I fucking need this.
I can’t wait to languish in the mediterranean again. Most soothing waters in the world.
Definitely going to Liguria, so, will do.
I asked for suggestions though because I’m not sold yet on Salerno – but any other destination needs to include coast and ruins…
totally wonderful.. I hope you take photos.. just being selfish…
Re-tread!
Clinton Restoration admin.
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I read thsi earlier tonight and it so fits here. All I can say is, ”get the fuck over it sonny”. What bullshit: He agonised. Is agonising. Shall agonise.
William Blum says the same but more graciously.
Well.. it did nto work with everyone.
I got onto the Blum piece via SMBIVA
Before he is done Blum dissects Miss Hillary too. Talk about a Clinton re tread!
The problem, I’m increasingly afraid, is that the man doesn’t really believe strongly in anything, certainly not in controversial areas.
Duh
😆 DOUBLE duh.
I see the local police have fired on Afghanis protesting the bombings…. and the recent deaths.
Way to go. Liberty democracy justice and freedom for all. We pound it into you.
For the Californians out there.. or the anti Arnolds.. For the anti CA lege or whatever they call themselves up there in Sacramento.
Let me shed a tear for any Ob voter who was thinking o f hte polar bears when they pulled the lever.
Who can forget Jay and the Techniques?
Okay pre mosh-pit groovites, there is a point here- (a MIRACLE!)
( that I’m making one at all, not the content itself, LOL:)
LAT Via Huffpo-
It is so 69. And With mutually satisfactory oral! :
SEIU gets the cover as Dems flee the beach on EFCA, Ob is propped up.
Keep the Ball Rolling.
If you look closely,
I think David Obey is actually playing the drums in the vid. 😉
hmm on EFCA reading thru th elines… get the feeling of a long ago fixed deal. One part that WILL be passing (it seems) is enforced arbitration.
Ob, or Ob’s wing of the partay, is close to Stern. But in the end (tho I want home workers to get decent pay) it all hardly matters. Much of the problems in the state are a battle between SEIU/Stern and Sacto. SEIU reprsetnts state workers, a fair amount of them.
A good bit of the budget battle face off was over state workers…
HOWEVER, Home health care workers, the whole range of them, need a decent deal.
What a hoot!
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
White House Military Affairs Director Resigns in Wake of Air Force One Flyover [4:12 p.m. ET]
Obama can’t go around making Bloomie look stoopid now, can he.
The trio, Bloomie Ob and Arnold = BLOBA
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LOL.
I think the fired gay linquists and the polar bears are a natural coalition.
Undercut by both administrations!
FWIW… Politico has the GLAAD letter from Ob to a gay service woman (already fired!), promising CHANGE.
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for BHHM:
Subpoena in pension fund probe puts spotlight on Sacramento lobbyist
Stop Whining About Populist Anger!
Have to love a headline (Jane Hamsher at HuffPo) that says DiFi and Spector will be the drivers behind EFCA… the compromise that is.
a quote in the piece from Nat Journal:
She sells the arbitration compromise as best for everybody. Gotta love an operative.
Why/who
Flag in hand …that’ll ward off misery…(and manufactured?????? plagues)
Were that boy’s parent’s worried he’d be singled out…(looking so meck… an’ all….. surely one couldn’t blame them…we are droning other high yellow innocent people..for far less than sniffles)……………or are some school admins finishing off the stiches on the brown shirts?
I’ll buy newspapers until I die (in so many ways I despise the hideous place our technology has taken us to), but the editor should be so ashamed at themselves for not requiring commentary about that ghastly photo…and everything it implies………………………………………………
I was in grade school in the sixties, and not once do I remember waving a flag on my way to school due to an outbreak of sniffles…………….
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whatever the fuck is goin on…it appears to be even far, far more subtle….(in a certain manner),..hideous, ….and…..far, far worse than even……..nazism……
an oderless…..noxious……….lethal………..
GASSSSSSSSSS…………..where the spiritiually dead …..
still walk among us……….
and don’t realize….
they are quite
dead……….
Blowback:
Looks like Obamalama might have to pay sponsors like everybody else.
This portion brought to you by Viagra.
All things wear out. Or tend toward reconciliation. Of a sort.
The language coming out of the WH, across the board, is esp slobbery… and viewership for his hour long conflabs are falllllllllllllllling.
Time passes and people have problems to deal with.
This probably plays into all of that as well. It is Politico churn, but the issue has been turning up in several spots. For too much use of unnamed “senior WH officials” and way too much ordinary information on “background”.
the bullshit is old.
The latest capitulation: Obama Set to Revive Military Commissions
New newer coalition… Polar Bears, Fired Gay Arabist Linguists AND Gitmo incarcerated.
SCREWED by both administrations!
PBS New Hour, Friday nite:
Achtung ms xeno!
NYT does Portland (they did 39 hours in SF recently, it was pretty off the mark, not sure they sent anyone out here). I wonder what they mean by “food carts”.
gnu
LINK
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Poetic post.