6 to 1.. the California SC caved… to the religious yahoos. 26 May 2009
Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, California / Pacific Coast, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, la vie en rose, San Francisco, SCOTUS, Sex / Reproductive Health.trackback
Demonstrators in favor of same-sex marriage wait in front of San Francisco City Hall for the California Supreme Court to rule on the legality of a voter-approved ban on same-sex unions. [Paul Sakuma AP]
From the LAT:
[I]n addition to rejecting the gay-rights lawyers’ contention that Proposition 8 was an illegal constitutional revision, the court also flatly discarded Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown’s argument that the measure was unconstitutional because it affected an “inalienable right.”
But the court said “well-established legal principles” require that Proposition 8 be applied only prospectively, leaving intact same-sex marriages that occurred before the November election.
“The marriages of same-sex couples performed prior to the effective date of Proposition 8 remain valid and must continue to be recognized in this state,” George wrote.
Justice Carlos R. Moreno, in the lone dissent, warned that today’s ruling “places at risk the state constitutional rights of all disfavored minorities.” […]
“It weakens the status of our state Constitution as a bulwark of fundamental rights for minorities protected from the will of the majority,” wrote Moreno, the court’s only Democratic appointee.
Justice Joyce L. Kennard, who joined the majority last year in giving gays the right to marry, said in a separate opinion that Proposition 8 was not sweeping enough to be a constitutional revision, which can only be placed on the ballot by a two-thirds vote of the Legislature.
Noting, as the majority opinion did, that judges must set aside their personal views, Kennard said the court was required to follow the state Constitution and the court’s previous rulings.
“And when the voters have validly exercised this power, as they did here, a judge must enforce the constitution as amended,” Kennard wrote.
Justice Kathryn Mickle Werdegar, a former civil rights lawyer who also joined last year’s ruling in favor of marriage rights, wrote separately because she disagreed with the majority’s definition of a constitutional revision.
“The drafters of our Constitution never imagined, nor would they have approved, a rule that gives the foundational principles of social organization in free societies, such as equal protection, less protection from hasty, unconsidered change than principles of government organization,” she wrote.
The court declined to determine whether same-sex marriages performed outside of California — and not formally recognized by the state prior to the election — would be legal in California. The court said it did not hear arguments on that question and “it would be inappropriate to address” it today.
The case for overturning the initiative was widely viewed as a long shot. Gay rights lawyers had no solid legal precedent on their side, and some of the court’s earlier holdings on constitutional revisions mildly undercut their arguments. …snip…
Well.. I think we should just vote on everything. LOL. Give it a whirl. Watch rights disappear. We are united in our divisions.
IIRC it has been strongly suggested, rumored… that Werdegar is gay. I wondered when I read it was 6 to 1, if she was the hold out. But no! It was a Latino male.
So… we have some 18,000 SSMs… upheld. And it is banned for everyone else.
You have to love schizophrenia.
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As I find things of interest on Sotomayor and reactions will post in thread. She is being called “a moderate” out here, with indications of some rulings that will provide ”concern” for liberals. Apparently last time her name was up, her nomination to the Fed bench was in congress, Hatch voted YES on her.
So Ob may get what he wanted, supposedly he wants a high YES vote on his pick. On the other hand, who knows what the conservatives are hatching… 😉
She is tangled up in the New Haven firefighter case that is now before the SCOTUS, on the bench there she voted for throwing out the promotional test on the grounds it was tainted – when no black firefighters were able to do well enough for promotion to captain…. Oh well.
You know Ob… make the conservatives happy. And wealthy. And whatever else he can serve up for them.
today’s scare headline reminded me of an older article I’d saved:
Washington May Soon Try to Pin the Venezuelan Uranium Tail on the Iranian Nuclear Donkey:
The wide-ranging, if somewhat vague, cooperation agreements between Iran and Venezuela were repeatedly reiterated by Washington sources to suggest that more malignant factors might be at play. The most popular rumor had Caracas sending its uranium to Iran in exchange for nuclear technology, with the most radical version beginning with accusations that Caracas was seeking to obtain weaponry from Tehran. Some went so far as to suggest that nuclear devices already had been clandestinely transported to Venezuela on chartered oil tankers. . . .
While the rumors sometimes involve an alleged Israeli intelligence report which speaks of covert uranium mining in Venezuela, the so-called findings have never been seen, let alone validated. In fact, while Venezuela may possess some yet to be established uranium deposits, there is no evidence that these have been located, let alone worked. Venezuelan officials have vehemently denied charges that the country is facilitating the enrichment of uranium by the Iranians, and even the State Department has minimized such suggestions, noting that while it is “aware of reports of possible Iranian exploitation of Venezuelan uranium,” it does not see any “commercial uranium activities in Venezuela.” Furthermore, the speculated ties overlook the fact that Iran does not particularly need to import uranium all the way from Venezuela for its projects, as it has ample supplies of its own.
so now Bolivia’s in on the plot – how long ’til they find the Ecuadorian connection?
yeah.. conform or risk bombing raids. About it. Or a helicopter or a plane going down in bad weather. Or no weather.
y mas: A U.S. Intelligence Hoax on Venezuela?
Axelrod (as Ob did earlier) claiming that Sotomayor ”has more experience than anyone who rose to the bench in recent years”. Ax extends that to “in a hundred years”. A is smiling like he just sold the Brooklyn bridge. To Brooklyn.
Uh… CJ Warren, anyone? His experience? Among others.
These epople are just shits… and dumb. They are just gaga for her “personal story” too…
heard on the radio that Justice Watch has already pulled a quote proving her a ‘racist’ – ‘if John Roberts had said this . . .’ – uggh – culture war diversions ahead!
wonder where she’ll land on corporate issues . . . executive authority . . . the unacknowledged bi-partisan agenda . . .
150 people already reported arrested in SF – BEFORE the 5:00 rally/6:00 pm march . . .
hey hey… I just heard on radio news updates that Ted Olsen and Boies have JOINED TOGETHER to intervene in the court finding today.
They say it violates the US Constitution — Equal Protection!
The mills grind exceedingly fine sometimes…
Oh I find this to be GREAT.
Black ministers with bullhorns in the thick of it… jsut watching the 5 pm news.
hey, she saved baseball … what else do you “purists” want?!?!
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days like today make me miss Hunter, and then what do I find in my surfing? Fear and Loathing: The Board Game
Thanks — I needed that.
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Justices Ease Rules on Questioning
Since the cops don’t already have enough power.
Scahill: Neocon US Colonel Calls for Military Attacks on “Partisan Media”
If I did it right, the bolding is Scahill’s.
They are already doing it. Gaza news blackout.
I’m recommending the new Steve Earle disc, “Townes”.
They’re still at it. More missiles! More missiles! Send Pizza! Send Pizza! Right away! Or, More Missiles!
People have lost their fucking minds. Chemerinsky’s on board and lists Sotomayor’s life long illness (she’s diabetic!) as a qualification.
Let me out of here.
Canada’s big news du jour: Governor General’s seal snack sparks controversy
No doubt.
Stay tuned next week when she downs a whole live salmon – scales and all.
To be fair though, we actually are Neanderthals… Who else would eat poutine?
Is she the Queen? What was her purpose? I mean the queen of England is raised to be able to sit down to any meal in the various colonies and protectorates. Which in the 50s were still quite a few, in far flung parts of the world. You know, munch away happily in whatever locale she is in.. lest she give offense to the population.
What is Jean’s excuse? I am certainly not in favor of removing fishing and hunting rights of indigenous peoples, but … I wonder what she is up to…
She’s the Queen’s representative in Canada. As for what she’s up to, her position is supposed to be non-political so she’s in a bit of hot water over this since it looks like she’s sticking her nose into the EU’s recent ban on CDN seal products (which doesn’t actually include the Inuit anyway. Still, we’re used to our GGs being non-beings – invisible except when they hand out awards and people bitch about how much money their existence costs taxpayers.)
Either that or she thought she was on Survivor…who knows?
I’ve never heard this before: Obama’s climate guru: Paint your roof white!
Painting rooves white gets talked about quite a bit out here… For just that reason. And Chu comes from .. here!
ugh I would dread white sidewalks.. light maybe, but non-reflective (which would probably defeat the purpose, I don’t know) as the sun gets intense. Even in SF, we get a harsh white glare in spring and fall. There was a move on over the years to get away from painting buildings white here… to paint them a non reflective cream or light tan… and it made a huge difference. That harsh white light BOUNCES around.
That harsh white light BOUNCES around.
Thus snowblindness up here.
I don’t even know if they make white asphalt shingles – which are the roofing materials used here the most. And wouldn’t the darker shingles absorb heat in the winter to warm the house?
I did notice that the streets in LA and Dallas were much lighter in colour than ours up here. Not sure what that’s about…
ours are light as well… a pale concrete.
That must be the difference then. We live in asphalt hell up here. Grey, grey and more grey.
Steve Chu’s bike, Michelle Obama’s garden … and what next?
what a revealing little report. See Chu bycicle for the environemtn. See Michelle planting seeds from Jefferson’s garden. See the Obs walk the dog “every two hours” (I so buy that one).
On and on it goes.
here is a news flash from the West Coast, just on the early am news:
Sales were slow for his Los Angeles event tonight. So they lowered the price. The $2,500 tickets were REDUCED to match the “low priced” event, at $1,000. No word on sales for the main event at $30,400 per couple. No word about it at all…
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Yeesh: Could a teenage girl topple Berlusconi?
His own little Lolita…
I watched this movie last nite: Death of a President. Well done and worth seeing.
Pentagon: US Ready to Keep Troops in Iraq For Another 10 Years
Just wonderful:
They picked up Omar Khadr when he was 14 and he’s still there. Bastards. But 12? How could they have been so obtuse??
How could they have been so obtuse??
well.. they lied. I heard a panel with Lindorff and Olashansky on Cspan a few years ago… they talked about a section of Gitmo called “Camp Iguana”. It is where the children were put, who were there for all sorts of reasons… soemtimes just so the father knew they were in custody and would worry (or go insane).
And I had read a lot, at least what was accessible to me, about Gitmo and had not heard of “Camp Iguana”.
Turley on the Sotomayor pick.
From Turley. Gah. It will be a long long several months confirmation. We will hear e n d l e s s l y of the Bronx projects. We are Historic. At some point the text has to change. One would think.
Next we will hear of who will play her in the Lifetime movie.
Long tedious muggy summer ahead.
Scalia, Roberts and even Kennedy are licking their chops.
there was nothing in Thomas’ or Scalia’s work, either.
Not that it matters.
But they weren’t nominated by the consecrated host, the body and blood of Jesus. WIth sprinkles of Reagan and Lincoln and so on. Spock on earth. And so on.
Mere mortals, politicians who ascended to the WH, nominated them.
ugh. There is more… I see why Ob picked her. Note the case she supported (she did not write the ruling but the lower court supported the SC ruling) that further restricted students’ rights, the “Bong Hits for Jesus” case.
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LOL Axelrod to Cali, DROPPPP DEADDDD.
I have to say I got the message years ago, when Arnold was in league with Bush and Cheney and the secret energy meetings. And we were under assault from the Bushites, under guise of an energy crisis… rolling black outs across the state for months. (It killed them then and still kills them that one reason we survived was CONSERVATION.)
Arnold then pops up for a manufactured Recall. The Dems don’t fight, not really. Easy to have Arnold do the nasty bloody scut work…
And we continue to go to shit.
Yes I think I got that one. And Ob and Ax are just more of it.
For 20 plus years the Arnolds and Obs and Axelrod’s have relied on charities and non profits to pick up the slack of the governmental social welfare net (and in the case of Ob, pay him to sit on boards and write useless, by his own admission, reports). Guess what? Charities and foundations are in trouble. They are pulling back. Now waht?
now we collapse. the new budget proposals increase the tax cuts. fucking arsonists.
This where they have been headed. And I posted Sheer’s article. above in the thread somewhere. Cannot believe he was so naive as to vote for the Arnold props. Or expect anything but this. Or expect the Obsters and Knobsters to care. (Not that they should…but shiiiit, let’s save Geithner and Summer buddies!)
Jeralyn was on the morning conf call for the legal media. The thread is interesting too… one comment has the long cut of her comment about “wise Latina” vs whatever, white male.
Jan Crawford Greenburg:
FWIW… Burris on tape with Blago brother… being released.
An interview with Joseph Tainter, archaeologist and explicator of civilizational doom.
He is younger than I thought.
wow, that was pretty grim!
Thanks!
Billions in new cuts loom for California — including eliminating welfare and closing most state parks
Wow…
And I assume Ahnold and Maria are moving into a low-rent apartment to set an example, right?
LOL he flies home every night. I have read the plane reeks of “sex and cigars”.
🙄 I don’t care where they put their plumbing.. but, sad to say, it is all they care about. And their concubinage and harems. Whichmay or may nto include sexual favors. LOL Just a government job.
the Democrats facilitated Arnold every step of the way. IMO.
I have read the plane reeks of “sex and cigars”.
TMI!
He flies home? Geez. Pollute/spend much?
Well jsut my opinion but Arnold was put in to bring us to this. Long as the leg gets their per diem, they sure don’t care. And his concubinage at the capitol get theirs… and so on.
Speaking of Cali, Madman sent me this… LOL. (The thread picks apart the eye popping salary for the “Special Nurse” who leads the list, it gets more eye popping… OT is manna from god, etc)
A lot of this stuff has been coming out (as it has periodically before) about various cities and the salaries paid to the highest city officials..etc… as well as state salaries. Also state retirements… Starting salaries for Ca Highway patrol i over 100K, etc.
Newspapers have published the 100 highest paid of Arnold’s concubine and so on. Their various perks and per diems.
LOL I am nto surprised Ob had trouble fulfilling the ticket sales for the DNC fundriaser tonight in LA (he’s a rock star!?). But I AM sure the WH is pissed – and worried.
So funny… aside from tickets to the LA fundraiser moving slowwwly… ti is Specter’s first appearance as a switch hitter.
Thud.
confirming conspiracies –
Eva Golinger: USAID’s Silent Invasion in Bolivia
Jean-Guy Allard: Armando Valladares’ CIA organization linked to plot against Evo Morales
The Bolivian district attorney’s office has identified Hugo Achá Melgar who, according to the AFP news agency, is Bolivia’s representative to the U.S. Human Rights Foundation (HRF), as providing the bulk of the funds for the terrorist gang foiled in Santa Cruz while plotting to assassinate President Evo Morales.
The HRF is a New York-based nongovernmental organization known for its activities of interference and CIA links. Its general secretary, Armando Valladares, is a terrorist of Cuban origin. District Attorney Marcelo Sosa, who is leading the investigation in this case, identified Achá, alias “Superman,” along with Alejandro Melgar, “El Lucas,” as being involved in and funding the plot.
In a statement to a La Paz television station, Achá—currently in the United States—rejected those charges but confessed that he had met with the killers’ leader, Hungarian-Bolivian Eduardo Rózsa-Flores, on “four or five” occasions. The Rózsa-Flores terrorist group was dismantled in a Bolivian police operation a few weeks ago. Three of the mercenaries, among them the group’s alleged leader, Eduardo Rózsa-Flores, died in a gun fight, while two others were arrested and are currently being detained in La Paz. The authorities subsequently captured two other conspirators, both members of the fascist organization Unión Juvenil Cruceñista, which provided the group with weapons.
Apologies that languished in Moderation for a while, Arcturus… out now…
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confirming conspiracies
That’s bannable blasphemy talk!
Oops…wrong site…
This just in… affluent teens have to babysit for extra cash this summer! Mom and Dad can’t afford to send them to splashy resume-padding “service vacations” in Spain!
What’s even worse… they may never get to Spain, and may have to do service work in Buffalo instead.
Oh, the humanity…
Oh noes! Like teenagers might have to work for their money like they used too? What possible values could that teach them?
Not to mention the encroachment of ex-urban developments
on once glorious fields of pot.
Kids today, what with hydroponics and THE CANADIANS- they
know nothing of growing their own affordable herb so they can save their part time job money for HARD drugs..
Ye s, the weed was Harsh as Hell , however , IIRC , with all the delightful aroma as if one just emerged from a petro-chemical fire.
~But character building. LOL.
I am just SICK. I have been busting my butt to try to figure out how I can get a summer job (my uni contract is only 9 months for the academic year…) and if I found something that made $4500 in 3 months, I would be orgasmic!
What universe do these people live in?? Really? Camps that cost 1-2K PER WEEK are “recession-proof”?!?
WTF?
I really am coming to hate this country.
4 to 8 thousand a month for camp?
Inflation much?
Notice the article is in the “Fashion & Style” section. Apropos.
coming to?
I flew past “hate”, barrelled through “condemn”, knocked over “loath” and am well along into “washed my hands of” a couple of years ago.
Can I have some of that hand-washin’ stuff you’re using Madman??
Somehow, my kids keep the stupid flame of hope alive — I just need to place it elsewhere…but where?
Kid the elder wants to be an engineer — he keeps talking about time-machines and teleporters…maybe he’ll find the elsewhere, yeah? 😉
maybe he will!
Keep the hope local, starting with family and friends. That’s what I’m trying to do. I give up on the country … it’s barely a country and mostly a network of plantations these days anyway.
Ex-NYC police boss accused of lying to White House
You can be charged for lying to “White House officials”? Was he under oath?
Photos show rape and sex abuse in Iraq jails-paper
So now that this news is out are US troops in more danger, Obama?
As if.
The so-called insurgents already know what those scumbags did.
the scuttle butt has long been there are not only photos but videos of at least one child being raped.
I felt at the time that Taguba should resign and be entirely 100% truthful. Living is very very good at the retired 2 ** level. But I read at the time of his testimony (I watched him take a fall, despite all he had managed) that he has two children in the mil, my guess is he wants to protect their future.
Oh get real Gen Taguba. Their future is an ever more debauched, far flung, fighting forever mil. Unless of course they are put in charge of ENTERTAINMENT as he had been before being shuffled off to do as little as possible in “investigating” Abu Ghraib. He did more than they expected, despite their having carefully sent a two star when every one else there in Iraq at the prisons… out ranked him, but HE FELL SHORT.
Finally a Question Posed to Someone Who Really Runs the Country, a Health Insurance Executive
Freedom Is Huge
Beijing wants PAID. Poor Bambi.
Geithner Prepares to Meet With Chinese Leaders
The Chinese should see if they can sit down with Geithner at a nice. quiet Italian joint in the Bronx, with a pull-chain toilet in the men’s room.
LOL!
As if anyone with a fucking ounce of sense couldn’t’ve seen this coming — our new overlords will not be kind! (and why should they be, we don’t deserve it..)
They’re my Favorite Tyrannical Empire. LOL.
Seriously? People are shocked at this? It’s what conquerors do.
Abu Ghraib abuse photos ‘show rape’
Apparently this is the stuff Obama changed his mind on releasing.
shhhh. keep it to yourself.
don’t tell anyone.
There’s been a “Change” all Right. In the facility with which this Democratic Administration ignores atrocity.
In Our Hypocrisy and disregard for Justice.
A “Change” all Right..
In our Cruelty and Callousness towards other,
defenseless Human Beings.
How LOW can we go?
The correct questions, in light of the substantial record of atrocities now surfacing:
Why won’t Obama lead?
Where is his much vaunted “Bold New Leadership”?
The Telegraoh article has this quote from Taguba. So much wrong in this … nowhere to begin.
Ob is his liege man apparently. GOOD LUCK!!
Okay, so basically the world’s women have a choice of whether the Taliban rape them or the Americans do.
DO the Taliban rape women? (I mean, in an organized systematic way. I know that Pakistani tribesmen are into that sort of thing, but that isn’t necessarily kosher for actual Taliban.)
Remember, American women… your daughters will grow up in a world of FREEEEEEEEEDOM as long as our special forces can rape Iraqi women in secret.
It’s times like these I’m super glad I don’t have any daughters. Or any children, for that matter.
and our paramilitaries… the Dyncorps of the wars. Rape among the “blue helmets”, the UN forces…. Ihave read in non-US non propaganda that there is adolescent boy rape in Afghanistan, from both Taliban and our allies, what were they called, the Northern Alliance. Some early interviews I read in harpers and The Nation seemed to indicate at least some women saw little difference between Taliban and Northern A. In terms of abuse for breaking the endless “rules”.
And then our own “command rape” of our women forces. With abortion banned in mil hospitals.
GOOD LUCK!!
Obviously a non-fretted string player… he plays vibrato the wrong way – you have to bend it not move vertically… beautiful nonetheless.
I’ve always been a sucker for that soundtrack.
Gosh Golly. Not enough empathy, on the record!, as it turns out. 😉
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Good for something I guess.
Biden:
Marjorie Cohen, this am on DN!:
In other words, she’ll be yet another idiot…
A shoe out there to drop, is my guess. NYT
It’s almost funny in a way.. whatever her views the WH knows them.
There is also a WSJ article on Wlaldman and his article in BeliefNet on Sotomayor… I don’t have the link handy…
new…
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