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Peeking out at the world… 12 June 2009

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Somalia.

Paranaque City, Philippines: Filipino police investigators examine the body of a suspected kidnapper killed in a shootout with police [Dennis M. Sabangan/EPA]

What next I wonder…. Roeder phones from Wichita jail, it seems once a day or so… complains of this or that and speaks darkly of acts to come. Some abortion providers have been offered protection, others not.  Apparently one of the criteria is that you must be the visible face for abortion rights in your area or a nationally known provider… and even then, not all of those are given a visit, from city, state or federal law enforcement.

I asked moiv if Emily Lyons had been the visible face for abortion care in her area, before being bombed and blinded by Eric Rudolph…  Well, no… she was not, til he nearly took her face off…. then she was nationally known.

von Brunn is undergoing heroic efforts to save his life (which is fine with me I prefer to hear from these sorts, than for them to be neatly put down as though they have nothing yet to give up) and of the Arkansas shooter?  He seems to have slipped beneath the waves.. Supposedly under surveillance by the EFF BEE EYE – for a year, following, they say, radical conversion to Islam and a trip to Yemen, where he was arrested for traveling on a Somali passport.  (I did not know Somalia was together enough to issue passports, apparently so.)

But whoops.. where was that surveillance?

Someone in the government is very happy von Brunn came along to help sink the ARK shooter..him.. just a guess on my part.

In the quick meantime… the ptb have been like pigs for the truffle.. He had connections, connections you say!  to the BNP, the ultra nationalist British party that just managed to scam a few seats in the election.  His ”connection”?  He attended Northern VA meetings designed to raise money for the BNP.  A beleaguered (if loaded with ugly opinions and beliefs, earlier acts)  pensioner living with his son and claiming, so his supremacist friends say, that his Social Sec had been “slashed” and, he believed, it was due to his beliefs.

Yes … what next.



1. marisacat - 12 June 2009

Judea Pearl, Daniel Pearl’s father, in the WSJ.

All I can say is … GAZA? JENIN? LEBANON?, several times over… and on and on.

We need to go back to the first rock on earth and determine to whom it belonged. Clearly.

Secondly, Mr. Obama’s rationale for Israel’s legitimacy began with the Holocaust, not with the birthplace of Jewish history. “The aspiration for a Jewish homeland,” he said, “is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.” Who else defines Israel’s legitimacy that way? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad does. Iran sees Israel as a foreign entity to the region, hastily created to sooth European guilt over the Holocaust. Israelis consider this distortion of history to be an assault on the core of their identity as a nation.

2. marisacat - 12 June 2009


How is that vote working out… ?

Friday, June 12, 2009

Obama defends DOMA in federal court. Says banning gay marriage is good for the federal budget. Invokes incest and marrying children.

by John Aravosis (DC) on 6/12/2009 09:44:00 AM

Joe and I have been trying since last night to get a copy of the government’s brief just filed in this case. This is not the GLAD case that we’ve written about previously, it’s another in California.

We just got the brief from reader Lavi Soloway. It’s pretty despicable, and gratuitously homophobic. It reads as if it were written by one of George Bush’s top political appointees. I cannot state strongly enough how damaging this brief is to us. Obama didn’t just argue a technicality about the case, he argued that DOMA is reasonable. That DOMA is constitutional. That DOMA wasn’t motivated by any anti-gay animus. He argued why our Supreme Court victories in Roemer and Lawrence shouldn’t be interpreted to give us rights in any other area (which hurts us in countless other cases and battles). He argued that DOMA doesn’t discriminate against us because it also discriminates about straight unmarried couples (ignoring the fact that they can get married and we can’t).

He actually argued that the courts shouldn’t consider Loving v. Virginia, the miscegenation case in which the Supreme Court ruled that it is unconstitutional to ban interracial marriages, when looking at gay civil rights cases. He told the court, in essence, that blacks deserve more civil rights than gays, that our civil rights are not on the same level. snip

I’ll be blunt, Obama is not looking hard ass here.. HE is looking SCARED.

What of, one wonders…


From the comments:

FP 34 minutes ago

“Them Jews” are behind this!
Buyer’s remorse, anyone? It’s remarkable how otherwise bright people fell for the hope & change BS.

Blueflash 22 minutes ago

Lot’s of us were leery of Obama. Who wouldn’t be after his flirtation with the fraudulent “ex-gay” McClurkin and then huckster theocrat Rick Warren. But what choice did we have? A Republican? Or another Clinton whose husband did more than anyone to set us back and who at one point referred to Obama as “having San Francisco values”?

ooo I MISSED that one from Bill C!.. on Obama having ”San Francisco values”. LOL what a hoot.

So, how is that vote working out.

Gays and women should sit out an election or two. They will never be taken seriously til they do.

Intermittent Bystander - 12 June 2009

Smelling salts for Sully, stat!

marisacat - 12 June 2009

😆 Well! I droped back in to see if Aravosis had anymore. Post-wise, he has gone to war. http://www.americablog.com/

Multiple posts… one is a line up of reactiions… and Sully has come to… for today.

Oen of the several posts clearly pins this on an Obama pick in the DOJ….

Obama man wrote anti-gay brief

by John Aravosis (DC) on 6/12/2009 05:29:00 PM

From Chris Geidner at Law Dork:

Tony West, the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division, is on the [DOMA] brief. He’s from Oakland, California, and is a former prosecutor who then, while an attorney at Morrison & Foerster, defended John Walker Lindh, the “American Taliban.” He also was the co-chairman of Obama’s fundraising committee. This is an Obama person. And his name is on this brief.

The fact he was on the Lindh case is deceptive. He was on the team of the old time Dem isde of the bed senior partner (who was at MoFo at the time) who took the Lindh case. His name escapes me at the moment.

3. marisacat - 12 June 2009

Bush v Gore.. Coleman v Franken…

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Iranian State Media Calls Election for Ahmadinejad; Rival Also Claims Victory [3:35 p.m. ET]

For more on this and other breaking news go to ABCNews.com: http://abcnews.go.com?nwltr=bn

4. BooHooHooMan - 12 June 2009

Oh Lordy.

Obama just lost my support

All I would say is…. Just now?….

But Oh, the wailing and gnashing of horseteeth.

* [new] Why is it that there are so many fucking people (14+ / 1-)

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here who do not understand how our fucking government works?

Did everyone fail civics?
Did anyone fucking TAKE civics??
This is turning into an epic fail.

Once again…Congress has to repeal DOMA. Obama is obligated by the Constitution (as is his DOJ) to enforce the laws we have. DOMA is a law. Congress can repeal it and then Obama can sign the repeal. Obama cannot do anything but enforce this law.

Asking Obama to do anything but enforce this law is demanding that he use the Unitary Executive. I guarantee you do not want him to do that, so stop demanding it.

Yes we did! { <— No. No, you didn't. LOL – BHHM}

by Elise on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 11:08:27 AM PDT

LOL. That monolith of cellulite, Elise: “Asking Obama to do anything but enforce this law is demanding that he use the Unitary Executive.” WTF is that? Like using the “sanitary facilities”?
Oh my Lord, that girl is dumb as a stump.

Here’s proof of intelligent life in the universe tho –
( I happen to love the gentility, myself. )

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bush didnt even defend DOMA

obama is trying to keep the AA homophobic churchy vote….thats what he sold out the gays for.

i want him limited to one term and i will work for that.

by NoMoreSacredCows on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 11:16:38 AM PDT

Then, that flabby trustfundarian dullard Adam B, who was slated for Law School at his Bar Mitzvah, lest he gnosh his way through every pastry aisle in the country.

What argument does he use to save Oblahmarhama?

* [new] Bush defended DOMA. nt (3+ / 0-)

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by Adam B on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 11:24:41 AM PDT

How pathetic.
Anyways, A quick shout out to Meatier Blades if you’re reading.
Way to go, dude, on the nod , the school-marmming gig on
“The Leading Liberal Blog™ on the Internet”.
Who’d ya slap down today?


5. Intermittent Bystander - 12 June 2009

Speaking of shoe parties!

A fox has been unmasked as the mystery thief of more than 100 shoes in the small western German town of Foehren, authorities said Friday.

A forest worker stumbled upon shoes strewn near the fox’s den and found a trove of footwear down the hole which had recently been stolen overnight from outside locals’ front doors.

“There was everything from ladies’ shoes to trainers,” said a local police spokesman. “We’ve found between 110 and 120 so far. It seems a vixen stole them for her cubs to play with.”

First they came for the socks, and I giggled . . . then they came for the shoes. . . .

marisacat - 12 June 2009

isn’t that a great story? She got off with a 100 shoes + from the version I heard… fantastic!

Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

Loved it! I have a mental picture of the vixen trotting home with each shoe to present her little fox kits with more, more, MORE TOYS!

I also wondered how old the kits were by the time the stash was discovered. Maybe the mama had started bringing the kits along on night raids for food, and the family shoe count really snowballed as the kits themselves began to collect trophies from their pre-K training sessions in scavenging?

The whole scenario would make a great premise for an illustrated children’s book, eh? Fox Tales and the Nights of the 100 Shoes!

6. Intermittent Bystander - 12 June 2009

Never a dull moment in the Capital District of New York State. . . .

Update: FBI probes anthrax scare in Schenectady.

SCHENECTADY – Federal, state and local law enforcement agencies descended on the city’s Mont Pleasant section after the discovery of a container labeled anthrax, officials said today.

A law enforcement official said the investigation is at least in part focused on Congress Street, which has been closed at Broadway.

The FBI was called in after police learned about the container, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity. It is unclear if the discovery poses any danger.

A county official said someone has been taken into custody, but the FBI has declined to say whether an arrest has been made.

The FBI would say little about the case.


At least 20 law enforcement agents and hazardous materials workers are on the scene of a building labeled New York Surplus Auction

Members of the FBI Evidence Response Team, State Police city firefighters and city police can all be seen working behind New York Surplus Auction throughout the afternoon.

Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

Further update on Schenectady investigation – apparently the scare involved a vial of “homeopathic vaccine for anthrax, which can be bought online.”

7. Intermittent Bystander - 12 June 2009

One of the museum shooter’s sons (in Florida) writes to ABC News (Exclusive: Erik von Brunn on Dad: ‘Beliefs … a Constant Source of Verbal and Mental Abuse’), apologizes to the family of the security guard, and spares no pity whatsoever on not-so-dear old dad.

“For the extremists who believe my father is a hero: it is imperative you understand what he did was an act of cowardice,” Erik von Brunn wrote. “To physically force your beliefs onto others with violence is not brave, but bullying. Doing so only serves to prove how weak those beliefs are. It is simply desperation, reminiscent of a temper tantrum when a child cannot get his way. Violence is a cop out; an easy answer for an ignorant problem.”

marisacat - 12 June 2009

I can’t even imagine growing up with that much hate in a household…

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 June 2009

I’m convinced, walking in there w/ a 22 rifle, that it was basically a suicide, and he managed to fuck that up, too.

What kind of gun nut goes into his planned massacre with a fucking 22 rifle?

marisacat - 12 June 2009

practically a hundred year old gun too… oh I agree.. but this thing has grown. Is growing. The guard is a martyr… who even held the door for the shooter.

Carry on.

Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

Apparently he had given away his computer and turned his website over to someone else shortly before the shooting. Got his affairs in order, as it were, prior to public GBCW.

8. marisacat - 12 June 2009

Poor Sully. Honey, when they go this overboard it is not negligence. It is intentional. TRY to take this one personally… 😆

The President Has Other Matters To Address

Dan Savage is pissed:

Barack Obama’s record on gay rights so far: disturbing, unsound, false, discriminatory, damaging, nonsensical. Before today you could argue that the Obama administration was too busy with the economy and the war and health care to focus on making good on his campaign promises to gays and lesbians, that Obama simply didn’t have the time to take up our issues. But you can’t make that argument anymore. The Obama administration has the time to take up gay rights issues—but only, it seems, to do harm.

I think this is too harsh. I suspect that this was a function not of malevolence but of negligence. The truth is: this administration is not hostile to gay equality; it just doesn’t give a damn about it.

Madman in the Marketplace - 12 June 2009

Sully is a moron.

9. marisacat - 12 June 2009

Meet the Press: Biden. Roundtable with GOP strategist Murphy, MSNBC’s Scarborough.

This Week: HHS Sec. Sebelius, Former Gov. Romney. Roundtable with George Will, Donna Brazile, Ron Brownstein, Kimberley Strassel.

Fox News Sunday: Sens. Dodd, Grassley; U.S. Chamber of Commerce CEO Donohue.

Face the Nation: Sens. McConnell, Durbin.

State of the Union: Sebelius, Sens. Nelson, Conrad, Collins, Rep. Pence.

10. marisacat - 12 June 2009


[W]hile it remains unfortunately popular to view the Iranians as the great boogety-boogety, it turns out that Iran is a great big country full of fairly ordinary people with jobs, homes, and worries about their economy.

Their political system is insane, cracked, corrupt, and impenetrable, but try explaining the American electoral college to even an educated, politically observant European and see if you won’t say more or less the same about our own.

If we have mistaken Iran for our nemesis, perhaps it’s because we see an uncomfortable likeness in the Iranians, a religious people who may not be quite so religious as popular assumption would have it, struggling with their own odd and idiosyncratic version of democracy. …

I caught a PBS program during the middle of the night, on “disbelief” by Jonathan Miller the brit play write, author, theatre director, medical dr, etc…

He had a snip of an itnerview with Arthur Miller on religion in America.. who said a minority, but a noisy one, wants an Ayatollah to rise in the US.

Ain’t it the truth.

11. BooHooHooMan - 12 June 2009


* [new] Obama… (3+ / 14-)

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has gone far beyond Bush in supporting State Secrets and the torture regime.

Or are you in denial about that? Are you in denail about this Department of Just Us?

No accountability Matt.

Anyone would supports that is no better than a Good German.

They gassed the Gypsies and the Homosexuals too.

by ek hornbeck on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 03:28:25 PM PDT

* [new] gassing “gypsies and homosexuals”???? (13+ / 0-)

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fuck you. Wtf are you talking about now? How dare you suggest I support that. I am gay you piece of shit.


by taylormattd on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 03:32:05 PM PDT

* [new] And quick with the troll rates… (6+ / 0-)

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if I diagree with you about Obama.

Because that’s what it’s about isn’t it?

Obama can do no wrong.

This was a slap in the face of the GLBT community.

Gonna wait ’til he caves on Health Care?

How many lies does it take matt?

How many?

Then they came for me.

by ek hornbeck on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 03:35:14 PM PDT

* [new] are you blind or just dumb? (15+ / 0-)

Seriously? Which is it? Or maybe just crazy?

Here, let me write this in allcaps so you can read it better:


Now back to your regularly scheduled asshole, taylormattd}

Are you still going to call me a “good german” who supports “gassing” “homosexuals”?

Will you continue your imaginary conversation, writing some more comments that literally have nothing to do with the parent comment?


by taylormattd on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 03:38:38 PM PDT

* [new] Sorry. (6+ / 5-)

I don’t see much of a change.

I think you’re a Obamabot apologist and I’m calling you and your posse out.

Or you can take back the Ratings abuse you can hypocrite.

by ek hornbeck on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 03:41:29 PM PDT

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* [new] You’re a liar (13+ / 0-)

with zero reading comprehension. And no, I won’t take back a TR of a comment where you imply I support gassing gays, asshole.


by taylormattd on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 03:44:08 PM PDT

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But you sure defend dening them EQUAL rights.

Just because you defend Obama.

Are you sure you’re gay?

by ek hornbeck on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 03:54:48 PM PDT

LMAO. Wow. So Mattie Taylor is an ardent fanboy, a loyal Dem to the point of masochism, a pottymouth blogger. And Teh Gayz. .
LOL. Talk about LEVERAGE.
Yeh -that should work out real well for him, lifting him right out of his dime-a-dozen law practice and propel him, ass end first, right into the Obama Administration.

What a Shemp.

LOL. The Dailykos “Hidden Comments” are provided courtesy of Sockpuppet McGee who says the trick seems to be logging in for a few days in a row while allowing ads. And Voila, Trusted User. Thats it. No insight, No Participation, no nothin. You don’t even have to say or write anything. LOL.

Says sumpin’ about how “valued” the bloginis are……and how desperate Moulitsass is for eyeballs . What a scam:
Markos and The DailyTakeItInTheAss, A place where Demi-people like taylormattd gather to WHINE about it. IN CAPITALS. LOL.

marisacat - 12 June 2009

has gone far beyond Bush in supporting State Secrets and the torture regime. ed hornbeck

hmm no no dear ed…

Bush compared gay sex to bestiality. Obrama and his lead atty West (and a west coast fundraiser) and his second atty and author of the filing, Simpson, a Mormon and a Bush era DOJ person, held themselves to incest.

We are making PROGRESS from and with PROGRESSSIVES!

They don’t hold us back, they just hold our hand!

BooHooHooMan - 12 June 2009

Just imbeciles, the whole lot over there.
I posted something earlier from that nitwit
school marm Elise too: Obama is upholding the LAW! in discriminating against LGBT.

Thank You, Miss Chrome Tits on Truck Mudflaps Feminiserible-urble -ism….
Or whatever she fancies herself..
What a fuckin Weirdo Festival.

Obama is “upholding the LAW.” What a joke.
The Pretzel, “The Law”, “legal” invocation to deny rights when furthering a RW agenda, or, conversely, discarding wrt to detainees and prisoner abuse. It’s going to be a very rough ride through this Administration and beyond indeed. They are consummating the NeoCon Agenda and we have a country full of imbeciles not only willing to abide it, but deluded, truly, and incapable intellectually of perceiving its course: It is inevitable that complete or effective ruin will come at the hands of elites bent on perpetuating military , economic, and social WARfare. Our course is simply unsustainable. No one is TBTF.
GM and Citi are quite the metaphor. Or cracked mirror.

catnip - 12 June 2009

They got exactly what they paid for.

Send money now!

Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

Interesting update on Crusted User status! Just quietly navigate the checkerboard for a while and then presto, it’s King me?! No fawning, no kissyface, no pooties required?

(Then again, is it possible McGee just got lucky with a glitch? Aren’t they about to trade in the old jalopy for an all new-and-improved social engineering interface?)

What’s a Shemp?! You New Jerseyites and your exotic expressions!

BTW, ek hornbeck actually used to be kinda great, at DK – very slyly subversive, for those who cared to notice – before he started playing offense/defense for the docudharma startup. Most of the admins have hated his guts for years, ’cause he was teaching the proles how the ropes and riggings were set.

BooHooHooMan - 13 June 2009

LOL. A Shemp in this particular instance is
a taylormattd. In general, LOL, it’s
A 4th Stooge on a Three Stooge Team, so to speak.
Or , for the low user id , status symbol-y conscious
3rd* Stooge. —->2ndString.
A Shemp.

Or, perhaps the diminutive is apropos:
“Shemplings”. LOL.

As for the MAMZ system, who knows what that little man does behind the curtain…. McGee says TU evaporates with ad block tho, and is somehow more tied to frequency of logon rather than participation or recommends themselves. Perhaps for new accounts its a little schnausage treat …
All such artifice. Like their towing of the Party Line…

marisacat - 13 June 2009

I found it interesting that if you just log on for a few days, sans adblock.. that miraculously you suddenly are TU.

what a funny place. Not funny hahahaha either… 😆

12. marisacat - 12 June 2009

Village Voice… I don’t know how things are moving along in Albany.. I lost track of a couple of days this week.. Poof! Days were gone!

Obama Defends DOMA, Pisses Off Gay People

By Roy Edroso in Albany,
Friday, Jun. 12 2009 @ 1:31PM

Boy, this is turning out to be a shitty Pride Month. With the Albany coup making the New York gay marriage bill more problematic than ever, state senator Tom Duane, previously rumored open to joining the rebels to get the bill passed, now says he’s completely behind Malcolm Smith and seems to indicate he won’t support the rebels even if they hold the chamber and move the bill.

And the Obama Justice Department has filed to dismiss a federal gay marriage case that challenges the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). AmericaBlog parses the filing and finds its defense of DOMA “despicable, and gratuitously homophobic” (“He told the court, in essence, that blacks deserve more civil rights than gays, that our civil rights are not on the same level”). Queerty asks, “This is the president we voted for?” …

He closes off hoping this is yet another (has there been one? IN OFFICE? Post inauguration?) brilliant Obama “rope a dope” game.

Oh sweeties.. there was a BIG Rope a Dope game: IN NOVEMBER.

BooHooHooMan - 12 June 2009

Don’t you know anything about boxing, mcat?

…He closes off hoping this is yet another (has there been one? IN OFFICE? Post inauguration?) brilliant Obama “rope a dope” game. -mcat

This is no ordinary “rope a dope”.
This is Obama™ Rope a Dope. It’s New!
Obama™ Rope a dope is where, like in the primaries, when footwork began to fail him, and Oblam blam blamma was getting the proverbial shit beaten out of him , he nonetheless managed to squeak to the bell because of a celebrated start. It was “Part. of. the. Strategy™”. Like, (who can forget) , his famous Secret Squirrel™ “Liberal” Strategy merely “pandering” – “politically” – to the Right Wing. Wholly consistent with his claims of “transparency” . Definitely Not “LYING” and “the “Same Old Politics”. That “wouldn’t be prudent” for an “antiwar” “fighter”…. “like Obama”.

Give him TIME, tho. LOL. This will be like Rocky for all the slobber and incomprehensibility. (Not recommended for burning up the Netflix tho)

Rocky 2012. But by 2010.

marisacat - 12 June 2009

His biggest rope a dope game was on race. Oh he played that one HARD. And the white boys behind him. They played it hard and fast too.

Fukc them frankly.

13. catnip - 12 June 2009

Good (horrifically sad) movie: The Magdalene Sisters

Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

That one’s a heartbreaker. Searing view of life as a slavegirl behind the convent walls.

I learned recently that the Church ran one of these laundries in Troy (NY), too.

marisacat - 13 June 2009

one of the worst things I read about the Magdalene Laundries AND the recent revelations (aside from all the torture), they were from time to time paraded thru town and spat upon.

The church IS medieval.

14. catnip - 12 June 2009

According to the dkos “state of the nation” poll, Obamalama’s popularity has dropped 5 points this past week. Took them long enough to start catching on over there.

15. catnip - 12 June 2009

John Aravosis has an informative post up about the BS they’re trying to sell at dkos and elsewhere about the DOJ having to defend the law as it stands.

16. marisacat - 12 June 2009

oh too funny…

David Ehrenstein, who wrote the LAT “Magical Negro” opinion piece (he links to it in the body of this post) in 2007 has a post up on the legal filing:

You have NO IDEA how enraged I am. I am now devoted to Barry’s complete political destruction and prolonged public humiliation.

catnip - 12 June 2009

There are scared Obamaites running around dkos insisting that protesting means nothing. IOW, dog forbid TEH GAYZ should get out there in the streets in DC and tell Obama exactly what they think of him – loudly. They should organize a million gays march and go for it. I’m sure enough of them are angry enough now to make that happen. More power to ’em.

marisacat - 12 June 2009

well … the October ”March on DC” was already scaled down to ”Meet on the Mall” (i guess for tea and crumpets). What a HOOT!

Can’t tell me some gay orgs did not know what was coming. Collaborators… 😈

Carry on!

catnip - 13 June 2009

I’d be telling him where to stick his crumpets.

I wonder if Kos (scared of TEH GAYZ in the army showers man) will be telling the LGBT Studies Set where they can go…

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2009

great piece!

“Ya don’t say. Gee, wasn’t he supposed to be The Most Liberal POTUS EVAH?

Guess not.”

17. catnip - 13 June 2009

Check out the revamped posters. Ouchie.

marisacat - 13 June 2009

that photo is from the protest outside his SO California fundraiser of a couple of weeks ago, gays protested and inside he laughed at them. Gotta love it.

Less talked about twas that despite big money sponsors and a myriad of music performers, the tickets moved slowly and one tier of a three tier event had to be dropped down to the lowest price to sell it out.

All about hope and change.

Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

Dwindling hope and spare change?


More fox reveries gone to the mod closet, I think!

Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

Out now, thanks!

18. Intermittent Bystander - 13 June 2009

BTW – regarding the NYS Senate – yet another judge (this was #3, I think) told both sides to work it out over the weekend (and asked for a copy of arcane Senate rules), or else. Good luck with that! Not sure the pols are even bothering to pretend they’re gonna try to “solve” this themselves.

Monserrate (the indicted Dem girlfriend-slasher) is continuing to dither, however, so the whole House of Double-Faced Cards (and how!) could tumble at any time.

Meanwhile, some GOP idiot in the Assembly took brave and crucial action in another important arena the other day – he wrote a Big Missive to the network demanding that David Letterman be fired (!!!) for recent Palin jokes.

They should all be fired themselves, for Impersonating Public Officials.

19. catnip - 13 June 2009

Looks like Rockmadinejad the Vote worked. He’s been declared the winner.

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2009

Iran SMS networks “mysteriously” fail right before elections

There are multiple reports that the text-messaging systems on cellphone networks in Iran went down just before the polls opened. Boing Boing reader Jadi says, “Right now, there are many ongoing protests in the streets against the fraud and still SMS system is down.”

Probably trying to stop people from using the systems to organize, as they have in other countries.

20. catnip - 13 June 2009
21. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2009

Why I Now Support Gay Marriage By TOM SUOZZI

WHEN I ran in the Democratic primary for governor against Eliot Spitzer in 2006, I vocally supported civil unions for same-sex couples but did not endorse equal marriage. I understood the need to provide equal rights for gays and lesbians, but as a practicing Catholic, I also felt that the state should not infringe on religious institutions’ right to view marriage in accordance with their own traditions. I thought civil unions for same-sex couples would address my concerns regarding both equality and religious liberty.

I was wrong.

I have listened to many well-reasoned and well-intentioned arguments both for and against same-sex marriage. And as I talked to gays and lesbians and heard their stories of pain, discrimination and love, my platitudes about civil unions began to ring hollow. I have struggled to find the solution that best serves the common good.

I now support same-sex marriage. This is a subject of great debate before the New York State Legislature (although the legislators there are a little distracted right now), and I hope that same-sex civil marriage will be approved within the month.

Under current New York State law, same-sex couples are deprived of access to the employment benefits, life and health insurance and inheritance laws that heterosexual couples have. If the state were to institute civil unions for same-sex couples, that discrimination would end, but we’d still be creating a separate and unequal system.

Civil unions for both heterosexual and same-sex couples would be an equal system, but this compromise appears unlikely at the current time. Few heterosexual couples would give up their current civil marriage for a civil union. While some states would recognize civil unions for all, others would not, causing legal problems for New York couples. Advocates of same-sex marriage don’t seem in favor of such a compromise either.

Any change in the New York law can, and must, balance equality while making sure that religious institutions remain free to choose whether to marry same-sex couples. By following the example of Connecticut and Vermont, which included protections for religious institutions when they recently legalized same-sex marriage, we can ensure that churches are not forced to consecrate marriages they do not endorse. This will require a strong liberty clause allowing religious institutions to opt out of solemnizing same-sex marriage, which also applies to the provision of services and programs at religiously affiliated institutions.

Many civil marriages are not considered “holy matrimony” by religious institutions because they do not conform to the rules of the religious institution. Those marriages have not challenged religious liberty. We must see that civil marriage, which has always been separate from religious marriage, will remain so.

But most important, gays and lesbians have suffered too long from legal discrimination, social marginalization and even violence. They are entitled to clear recognition of their equal status as citizens of a country that is founded on the principle that we are all inherently worthy. By delivering a clear message that same-sex couples can no longer be treated as separate and unequal in New York, we will also reduce discrimination in everyday life. We will all be better for that.

Equal civil marriage should, and likely will, pass because of the public’s growing unwillingness to sustain inequality. Society will also be strengthened as more people take responsibility for one another in marriage. I now encourage others who oppose gay marriage to re-examine the reasons they do so, and to consider changing their minds too.

marisacat - 13 June 2009

It will be interesting to watch as local elected pol after LEP comes forward… and what this WH does. My own guess, the WH digs in. Clue: it’s not a smart place.

Just my take.

Why did they not call off the dogs in the mil? They could have stopped the witch hunts, at the very least. They did not.

22. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2009
marisacat - 13 June 2009

That is a stunning article.. thanks for that…

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2009

it’s going to require a massive change in the way society operates, and I frankly don’t think we’re up to it.

marisacat - 13 June 2009

the thread was very good…

23. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 June 2009
24. NYCO - 13 June 2009

A guy who is tweeting from Tehran.


NYCO - 13 June 2009

(That’s me, above). Forgot to log out of my work account!

NYCO - 13 June 2009
catnip - 13 June 2009

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, closed the door on any chance he could use his limitless powers to intervene in the disputes from Friday’s election. In a message on state TV, he urged the nation to unite behind Ahmadinejad, calling the result a “divine assessment.”

Isn’t that the same phrase the supremes used about Bush?


25. catnip - 13 June 2009


SACRAMENTO, Calif. – A convicted terrorist can sue a former Bush administration lawyer for drafting the legal theories that led to his alleged torture, ruled a federal judge who said he was trying to balance a clash between war and the defense of personal freedoms.

The order by U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White of San Francisco is the first time a government lawyer has been held potentially liable for the abuse of detainees.

White refused to dismiss Jose Padilla’s lawsuit against former senior Justice Department official John Yoo on Friday.

Obama v justice for torture victims. This should be fun.

marisacat - 13 June 2009

White refused to dismiss Jose Padilla’s lawsuit against former senior Justice Department official John Yoo on Friday.

oh I can hear the righties now… A judge in SAN FRANCISCO luvs terrorists.. 😆 And Padilla’s case sure needs an airing…

And here Yoo is right on the spot, in CA, a tenured Berkeley professor.

26. marisacat - 13 June 2009

😳 😳 VERY sorry.. just found a BHHM comment in Spam file…

it is now up thread at comment #4

27. marisacat - 13 June 2009
28. n69n - 13 June 2009

i am thinking of you tonight, i just peeked in@ the new assholery on dkos over the new DOMA brief.

marisacat - 13 June 2009

oh isn’t that brief ridiculous? I am jsut cathcing up on all the threads at Americablog. Aravosis is an asswhatever, but the threads are good…

Well I hope people stay mad.

I just read today that hte lead name on the brief, West, (Simpson was the actual author) is the husband of Kamala Harris, our Democratic Party star (they tell us all the time!) and SF ugh… she is not city atty… she is the city DA (had to search my brain a bit). A top supporter and personal friend of ObRama.

These people so need to get over themselves.

29. marisacat - 13 June 2009

nu thread………


………. 😯 …………

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