bliss 29 June 2009
Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Sex / Reproductive Health.trackback
Bogota, Colombia: A reveller dressed as a bride at a gay pride parade [William Fernando Martinez/AP]
Life v Gibbs.
This is pieced together from a couple of places, part of it is a reporter, Yunji de Nies, at Political Punch, the Tapper ABC site… the second set of questioning, I don’t know which reporter it is… Pam of Pam’s House Blend had both sections of the Q & A at her site with no link or attribution, at all. heh.
The bolding is from Pam’s site – and this questioning is the unknown reporter:
Q Robert, today the President is going to celebrate Gay Pride at the White House for the first time. Even so, the gay community is somewhat divided over whether or not the President has done enough, the pace of change is enough. What does the President intend to say today, and can you talk a little bit about his thinking about how much he has to mollify a community that’s been very supportive during the campaign?
MR. GIBBS: I appreciate the opportunity to comment on mollifying a community, but that’s not the way the President looks at important issues. I think if you go back and look at the campaign — either his campaign for the Senate or his campaign for the presidency — he takes stands that he believes are consistent with his values.
We didn’t play a lot of interest group-based politics in the presidential race, I think that was denoted by the fact that we didn’t get a lot of endorsements in the presidential race.
The President makes those decisions, again, based on his values. I won’t get ahead of what he’s going to say later today, but he will, I think, address a number of issues and reaffirm the commitments that he’s made.
Yes, ma’am.
Q Following on that, the President has talked about repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell,” and also the Defense of Marriage Act. So I’m wondering if you can tell me what specific steps has he taken to do this? What is his timeline for doing it? And also —
MR. GIBBS: I think we got a fairly similar question a minute ago, but I’ll try to —
Q — there’s legislation apparently moving through House to repeal “don’t ask, don’t tell,” I think it’s H.R. 1283, and he hasn’t endorsed it. Why not?
MR. GIBBS: I can certainly talk to legislative affairs about what that piece of legislation would do. As I said earlier, the President has been involved in, personally, meetings on this topic with stakeholders, including those at the Pentagon.
Q What about members of Congress?
MR. GIBBS: I don’t know if he’s met specifically with members of Congress on that. I know that — I can try to get a list, I know that staff has worked here on the issue. It’s a commitment that he intends to keep.
Q Can you talk a little bit more about the meetings that he’s had, what —
MR. GIBBS: No.
Q — and how recent has he been in these meetings?
MR. GIBBS: Since January 20.
I read somewhere or other that as the attendees arrived for the afternoon reception at the WH, ABBA’s “Dancing Queen” was playing. hmmm.
From the Wapo on today’s reception …
His comments were received enthusiastically by some attendees. “This is so incredibly historic and symbolic,” Mitchell Gold, a gay-rights activist from North Carolina, said after leaving the White House. “I don’t think for a minute that we can forget that under the Bush administration we didn’t see that.”
Whew! Poor [shorter] Mitchell: “Obama is Better than Bush” OIBTB. Ok! Don’t be bothering to be an activist for any rights I might need… 😆
And, from de Nies second question to the WH press flack:
de Nies : Can I ask one more question quickly?
GIBBS: Sure.
de Nies : On sort of a D.C. issue — and that is: What hasn’t the president changed his license plate on the presidential limousine? Is he planning to change them for the “taxation without representation” plates?
GIBBS: I think rather than change the logo around the license plate, the president is committed instead to changing the status of the District of Columbia.
de Nies : But that is a symbol, though, that a lot of people look at as…
GIBBS: Right. I guess I would ask you to ask people in Washington whether they’d like to have that status changed, or that symbolism screwed onto the back of a limousine?
Stuff ’em with symbolism. And the historicity — of it all.
Of course the license plate frame signalling DC’s ongoing colonial status was a cowardly bullshitty thing Clinton did, just in the last two weeks of his final term. Big Guy. So courageous.
From Madman from the end of the previous thread:
Ever wonder if that soda cup you threw out of a car window could cause real damage? There was a case in TX, and a reporter called up a physics professor to get the scoop:
Some interesting details on how she approached the problem, as well as how the explanation needs to be tailored to the time a tv reporter has, then:
Thought it was neat and I had to share. Too bad physics isn’t taught with interesting situations like this to catch people’s attention more often.
jesus.. NOW there is a derailment in Italy… at Viareggio, on the coast. So… they come in threes as well? (DC, China, Italy)
Tiny Revolution deconstructs a NYT piece on Honduras, by lined from Mexico City and Caracas. So much local flavor you know. “They all look alike.”
Do I think we green lighted this? Yes… which is no embrace of anyone.
Just for the sake of the on-going story line, let’s call that group down S America way, “leftists” (ignoring for the moment some less than salubrious stories coming out of some countries)… we struck out at one of them.
It will never end…………… Not in my lifetime.
intersting tidbit, this”
They overthrough a democratically elected gov’t over a NONBINDING referendum?
Suure … that makes sense.
Yes and much shake and shiver over claims he tried to destroy the constitution, or act outside the constitution. An imposed reality (the constitution of Honduras, I mean) during the Reagan era.
I have a feeling he is finished however.
I do get a faint whiff of schism within the US over this.
Another not unrelated tidbit… a few posts in SF Gate these past days on Ling and Lee being held in NoKo… and the threads are vicious…. they “got what they deserved”… they are “guilty”… etc. I personally think Saberi (held in Iran) was in fact a spy of one sort or another.. (she calmed herslef with reciting the Star Spangled Banner? Oh get real) … but we still needed to get her out.
Clearly no support and maybe some subversion from so called Democratic elements inside the US. Certainly Gore and CurrentTV here in SF have been squirrelly from day one.
the referendum attacks are the same tactics being used against Chavez and Evo Morales. The language is almost identical. In fact, the “uprisings” in Indonesia of the wealthier classes against populist elected presidents used the same attack too, that they’re establishing “dictatorships” through trying to keep hold of office and that the indonesian president was “corrupt”. The right all over the world can be pretty effective in their use of the language of liberalization and freedom to repress populist movements for the poor and disenfranchised.
Yes… Gollinger refers to points of reference between now and 2002 agaisnt Chavez. It always smells the same… like the Colonels in Greece… and so on…
Yup… Rush is almost in tears… about what Zelaya tried to do to the Honduran Constitution…
he’s got a American “missionary” calling from inside Honduras…
so they call CIA agents “missionaries” now?
lenin has an interesting post up on Honduras…. and this is in comments… I had read that most of the generals passed thru SOA.
I would guess that our dissent with the emerging independence (good bad indifferent) of certain S American states is issues of bases and drugs. Plus whatever else.
lenin also quotes from thsi analysis… Gollinger at Venezuala Analysis:
Then farther down this:
Think he has since come out with “condemn”…
he’s a champion of “freedom”, our Prez Barry.
I disagree with some of the premises the author takes for granted, but this is interesting and true, as far as it goes. It’s also interesting to me as I was inside the retail part of the music industry as it killed itself … I watched it happen close up.
Michael Jackson and the Zombieconomy
Of course, the fact that beancounters corrupt and ruin everything is the direct result of unrestrained capitalism. It’s baked into the cake. When you make something property, buy reducing it to its economic value, you put a fence around it, yet commerce (in the sense of people exchanging things they have for things they want … and that DOESN’T have to be done through a capital-centered system) founders with too many fences. Art dies if you can’t share, copy and feedback what moves you. So does engineering. So does science and medicine. EVERYTHING depends on permiability of ideas in order for people to adapt it to other needs.
The beancounters couldn’t kill it if you didn’t insist on valuing things only in terms of how many beans its worth.
And that’s how they killed themselves: by underinvesting in quality, to rake in the take.
ain’t it the truth………………………..
On giving Goldman a chance
How can there be “more” when ti went on for 1 to several years? wouldn’t that be “on-going”?
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford Admits More Liaisons With Argentine Mistress, the AP Reports [12:10 p.m. ET]
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Obviously I am naive… 😆
there is a weird sense I’m getting from the coverage that the establishment press find it very threatening that Sandford seems to have actually fallen for her, as though it would be better if she was just some chippie that he used like a crusty sock, to be thrown away when he was finished. Breaking down each visit into separate “liasons” rather than visits within an ongoing relationship keeps her linguistically in the “slut/whore” catagory, which would somehow be more “understandable”.
yes this idea that he may have fallen in love (to whatever extent) is just whupping their asses, for some reason. It does not fit into a handy box. Hell he probably fell head over heels for BA, compared to Columbia SC.
Anyone with brains would.
anybody could see from those emails and that mess of a news conference that Sandford is a lovesick schoolboy with this woman. He’s too much of a tightass to be faking it.
What Have We Learned From Stonewall?
Max Baucus Is NOT the Top Recipient of Health Insurance Bribes
Oh Barry, your rabid cultists barely knew thee.
it really is hilarious. If only they knew. But then they would say, “he had to… to keep them quiet, til he is ready to make his move”.
New York Senate update:
Today, all the senators came in for session (ordered by the court) but left after 15 minutes. The Dems then set up their own session. A GOP senator wandered through the chamber for some reason (perhaps left his briefcase behind, or just was cutting through to use the john), was marked “present” by the Dems, who then declared a quorum and passed a shitload of bills.
Tune in tomorrow…
…was marked “present” by the Dems, who then declared a quorum and passed a shitload of bills.
What a hoot!
I hope the bills benefitted real people… at the least!
No, unfortunately Paterson regards the session as invalid and won’t sign them. He’s called another session at 7 pm, which legally he can’t do without 24 hours notice I think, so maybe the part with the state troopers dragging the senators into the chamber is coming up later tonight.
(There are a number of laws that expire tonight, requiring new bills to be passed and signed before midnight. I think one of them involves Niagara County’s existence, or something like that.)
maybe the part with the state troopers dragging the senators into the chamber is coming up later tonight.
Woohoo! Good times.
I think one of them involves Niagara County’s existence, or something like that.
Will it cease to exist…? 😉
ISRAEL ATTACKS JUSTICE BOAT; KIDNAPS HUMAN RIGHTS WORKERS; CONFISCATES MEDICINE, TOYS AND OLIVE TREES
well last time they rammed the boat…
The usual pro-Israel apologists are out in force at dkos over this one.
The koswhacks are cheering…
Ted Rall – Sorry, Mr. Bush – I never imagined Obama would be worse than you
I see Zelaya is speaking at the UN. Is that a common practice? Having an ousted prez speak at the UN?
he’s still recognized by the international community as the sitting president. IIRC, there was a leader of Burma who was still welcomed at international meetings after the coup.
Okay. Well, I imagine he’s pretty well screwed now. What is he (along with the so-called international community i.e. those with the cash) going to do to get his presidency back?
This looks rather ominous:
Speaking of the School of the Americas, it was quite the trip yesterday watching so-called progressive kossacks defending it in the comments to this diary.
All of the Clarkies used to defend ti as well.
Good luck to them all!
I can’t remember who the idiot was that question me when I posted that the new A swine flu had the earmarks of a designer virus:
Did leak from a laboratory cause swine flu pandemic?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/did-leak-from-a-laboratory-cause-swine-flu-pandemic-1724448.html
Al is UP!
And I hope after 2010 election they have several more in the senate and a boat load in the House. shut down their lying games. (as if it would)
That’s Good News, Bad News for the Dems. Now that they have the magic majority number there will be no excuses for not getting their shit through congress.
Pass the popcorn.
Fallout: If the Dems don’t pass their shit, it’ll now be because Kennedy and Byrd refused to resign. lol
I think the Democrats are rattled that Byrd will struggle to his feet someday and chastise them on the wars… he made it out of the hospital… but I have a hard time seeing Kennedy actually returning to the senate floor.
We shall see.
Just went to check out the Rall cartoon that Madman mentioned earlier. For some reason, his page wreaks havoc on my security settings. I was still amused to note that for such a mild critique of Neo-Decider, there was still the inevitable screeches of “Right-Winger! Right-Winger!” against anyone in the comment threads who actually looks at the man’s record and its heavy-duty overlap with the policies of Decider I.
And this is why I prefer superhero comics to political discourse with Progwessives. I want/expect the former to be absurd, and can thus never be disappointed in them when they are. Unlike the routine idiocy so patently on display with the latter.
Time to swear off this shit again for another 3-6 months, I think. It’s amazing to me that I keep decreasing the doses, and yet the doses go a longer and longer way every time. Seems like there should be a mathematical equation for that.
hey ms xeno! sorry you got stuck in moderation… out now
😳
I bet the filter snagged the phrase “Decider I” because it’s really a name for some “enhancement” pill meant to make manly men more manly. Or whatever. :p
Hey you!
And this is why I prefer superhero comics to political discourse with Progwessives.
You have a point! But Obamalama’s true believers actually believe he’s SuperWHman so the absurdity blurs the boundaries between fiction and reality anyway.
Yeah, well this guy’s a snappier dresser. :p
ewwwww….
a different link to it … since the Smirking Chimp apparently throws people’s browsers into a tizzy.
Thanks. I wouldn’t quite go that far yet but he’s pretty damn close.
Media Benjamin has that effect on people.
hey hey Smithee!
LOL
The comments in the rest of that thread are hilarious.
Is that about sex with those consenting drunk women he likes to speak of?
I tossed a post up about going to the Pride Parade in Chicago on Sunday.
There, I Fixed It
I LOVE the “windshield defroster”… it is down about 4 or 5. what a hoot!
and the fire alarm (2 down)
Waking Up Is Hard to Do
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