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yes… if only we could all 3 July 2009

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

Get the look: straw boater, £14.99, by River Island, 020-8991 4904 [Anna Gordon via The Guardian]

just grab a rakish, updated straw boater and run off toward some island sunset.  Or sunrise.



1. catnip - 3 July 2009
2. catnip - 3 July 2009

Why does this guy hate America?

No sign Iran seeks nuclear arms: new IAEA head

VIENNA (Reuters) – The incoming head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog said on Friday he did not see any hard evidence Iran was trying to gain the ability to develop nuclear arms.

“I don’t see any evidence in IAEA official documents about this,” Yukiya Amano told Reuters in his first direct comment on Iran’s atomic program since his election, when asked whether he believed Tehran was seeking nuclear weapons capability.

Current International Atomic Energy Agency head Mohamed ElBaradei said last month it was his “gut feeling” Iran was seeking the ability to produce nuclear arms, if it desired, as an “insurance policy” against perceived threats.

It was definitely time for ElBaradei to go if he was relying on his “gut feeling”.

marisacat - 3 July 2009

Amano better get a food taster… kevlar vest, helmet… or there will be a gut transplant scheduled for him

3. catnip - 3 July 2009

Brrrreaking: Sarah Palin is stepping down by the end of the month

I guess Sully finally got to her. 😉

marisacat - 3 July 2009

gah I was just getting my cofee not really awake when ABC of all networks broke in to announce… and all I could think was … don’t go near Sully for days. (I really go there for the “View from your window”, I actually enjoy that a lot).

The rumors will fly, the pregnant bellies photos will be examined…

catnip - 3 July 2009

Maybe she was one of Mark Sanford’s other wimmen. 😀

marisacat - 3 July 2009

HA! Because Anchorage and Wasilla are such a good foil for BA Argentina…


4. catnip - 3 July 2009

CNN is showing her speech which can only be described as the fastest speech ever. She has a good future as an auctioneer if she needs something new to do.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 July 2009

it was bizarre, wasn’t it? Almost word salad.

marisacat - 3 July 2009

I don’t think in that realm she can ever catch up to GHWBush.

Truly a past master at a condition.

NYCO - 3 July 2009

Rumor has it the Feds are after her for embezzling building supplies from the Wasilla Sports Center for use at her home (when she was mayor).

If true, ‘twould explain the timing.

marisacat - 3 July 2009


marisacat - 3 July 2009

Think Progress has a post up.. I gather many are drawing off a Max Blumenthal piece at Daily Beast.

The thread has her shackled, dragged off, declared a witch and in Leavenworth. Not been watching politics very long, I’d say.

5. marisacat - 3 July 2009

Chris Floyd has a good take down of where we are in the wars… and a hard slam at Salazar. The comment which is a longish letter from a woman inside Iraq is beyond excellent.

6. marisacat - 3 July 2009

BW on the unemployment figures.

[W]hite-Collar Collapse

Perhaps most staggering were the losses in professional and business services. Payroll employment in that sector declined by 118,000 in June, about twice the rate of May. Within this sector, employment in temporary help services fell by 38,000 in June, a sharp drop from just 6,500 losses in May. The temp industry—which economists see as a harbinger for economic trends— has lost 848,000 jobs since the start of the recession.

“It’s a negative surprise,” says Tig Gilliam, CEO of the employment firm Adecco Group, about the job loss numbers. “It seems last month’s [temp worker] numbers were an aberration, and declines will stay steady.” Gilliam points out that some areas of temp work—such as mortgage-processing and bill-collections work—are bucking the trend and growing. And he says he is heartened that clients are talking less about layoffs and more about preparing to add jobs back, but “that’s more sentiment than action at this point.” snip

7. marisacat - 3 July 2009

helping to run the killing wars from a JAIL CELL.

Abortion doc murder suspect advocates via mail

By ROXANA HEGEMAN – 5 hours ago

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — A man charged with murdering Kansas abortion provider Dr. George Tiller has been advocating through mailings from his jail cell that such killings are justifiable.

Scott Roeder sent Oregon anti-abortion activist Linda Wolfe a pamphlet that lauds Paul Hill, the convicted murderer of an abortion doctor, as an “American hero,” and includes examples of Hill’s writings about how it is justifiable to kill abortion doctors.

The Rev. Donald Spitz, whose anti-abortion group Army of God celebrates Hill’s teachings, says he provided Roeder with seven of the pamphlets upon Roeder’s request.

Roeder is charged with first-degree murder in the May 31 fatal shooting of Tiller. He is jailed in Sedgwick County jail and was unavailable for comment. The public defender’s office representing Roeder did not respond to a message seeking comment.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Madman in the Marketplace - 3 July 2009

just a lone wolf, no connection with an organized movement to advance a program of political terrorism. No sirree bob.

lucid - 3 July 2009

But the scary left… tree sitterrs and such… no! We’re the worst of the worst!

ms_xeno - 4 July 2009

I thumbed my nose at a Hummer driver last week.

We all know what that leads to down the road, so to speak.

8. marisacat - 3 July 2009

I am laughing pretty hard at THIS one. A wretched lobbyist and corporate bill signed into law by a judgemental and lecturing fixer.

We are going down in a dirge of “public safety”, “Worship the Baby (fetus)” and racist and foreign wars. Racist domestic wars too.

But be sure not to smoke. As Philip Morris writes the laws.

No surprise.

9. lucid - 3 July 2009

I am so out of touch… I never realized how much of an information junkie I’ve become. Internet access in Italy has been a nightmare. I didn’t even know about the disaster in Viareggio until mcat emailed me hoping I wasn’t anywhere near the train station. I wasn’t, but I went through it today on the way to cinque terre – that train took out well over a city block. i’m amazed threre were only 13 casualties. Horrible…

Anyhow, so what, like 5 banks failed today in Michigan? And MJ and Farrah died…

Now that Ii have this crappy TV innternet service that I’m paying 5 euro a day for I’ll try to catch up.

And Rome fucking rocks… btw.

marisacat - 3 July 2009

Well coastal Italy is a good place to drift off… Rome too…


I can’t remember if you eat meat.. or I’d say have a bistecca for me too!

10. lucid - 3 July 2009

Alreaady had many… and lots of marinnated anchovies and mussels… second to last night inn Romme, I went to Trastevere, had a feast of seafood, tomatoes and wine for 20 euro – beest food by far here… Next 2 days I’m on the beach – might even check out the clothing optional one at Corniglia.

marisacat - 3 July 2009

i’m fainting.

catnip - 3 July 2009

Nudie beach day. Woohoo!

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 July 2009

Video of Walt Disney World’s Obamabot

Not sure how you tell the difference.

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 3 July 2009

Famous prostitute’s gravestone deemed too ‘slutty’

The 77-year-old artist Tomi Ungerer’s parting gift to his friend Domenica Niehoff was to be a gravestone featuring two ample pink marble boulders in homage to her famously top-heavy figure. But those responsible for the Garden of Women cemetery, resting place of Hamburg’s most famous women, turned his design down, the paper reported.

Ungerer, who declared his interest in designing her gravestone immediately after her death, reacted bitterly to the decision.

“Domenica would have liked my design. She was not ashamed of herself,” he said.

Ungerer and Niehoff were friends for decades, and even shared a flat for a while in 1984. He published drawings of Niehoff and her colleagues in a book entitled “Guardian Angels of Hell” at the time.

But the cemetery officials are not alone in criticising Ungerer’s memorial. Photographer Günther Zint, another friend of Niehoff, told the newspaper, “There was a bit of a debate among her friends whether Tomi needed to emphasise her breasts like that. They were after all a bane of her life.”

Niehoff, who gained fame for advocating the rights of sex workers in the 70s and 80s, died at age 63 in February 2009.

13. catnip - 3 July 2009

So, what does this Sarah Palin thing have to do with Michael Jackson?

She could have waited a few months until the MJ coverage slowed down. Media whore!

14. catnip - 3 July 2009

She’s had a very expensive run. From the laundry list of ethics complaints:

18. April 27: Contends Palin is misusing the governor’s office for personal gain by securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust. The fund was recently established by supporters to help Palin pay off more than $500,000 in legal debts stemming from other ethics complaints, including troopergate. Complaint filed by Eagle River resident, Kim Chatman. Pending.

15. catnip - 3 July 2009

Maybe Obamalama has her tapped for the next czarina opening. hehe

marisacat - 3 July 2009

I am sure there’d be a niche for her…

catnip - 3 July 2009

You betcha!

Madman in the Marketplace - 4 July 2009

is there an Ambassador to Russia yet?

16. catnip - 3 July 2009

From the So…whose bright idea was this? file: Pakistani PM Seeks US Aid for Massive Border Wall

marisacat - 3 July 2009

they are building walls all over. the saudis have one going too….

Tonight’s NOW was partly on what they call “Obama’s Wall”. Moving right along, with land seizure and the whole 40 yards. You don’t sign away your land, they condemn it and simply seize it with a declared sum “paid” to you. Happening to a woman who spoke directly to Obama when he was in her town in Feb of 2008 and asked him to reconsider the wall. Just as in palestine, it runs thru her back yard.

She voted for him. Guess she looked into his eyes and saw his soul. Or some crap.

catnip - 4 July 2009

Or he looked into her eyes and saw her wallet.

17. catnip - 3 July 2009
18. catnip - 4 July 2009

Check out the updates. So typical.

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 4 July 2009

Anti-tax Tea Party plans rallies nationwide on Fourth

CNN spent a bunch of time on them, of course:

But for now, the Tea (Taxed Enough Already) Party is a loose coalition of largely conservative, anti-big government individuals and organizations, from former presidential campaign supporters of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) to disillusioned Republicans to the apolitical.

They’re united by growing frustration with government intervention in private business – from the bank bailouts to the federal support of General Motors. Few politicians will be welcome at Saturday’s events. Some Tea Party leaders are inviting people to register as independents to protest both major political parties.

“A real important unifying factor which brings them together is the policies of Barack Obama,” said David All, a Washington, D.C.-based conservative strategist who specializes in online organizing and communication. But to take the next step – and start being in favor of something – “you need to get a critical mass that’s agreeing on some things and talking to each other.”

Organizers hope this weekend’s protests will be “a more celebratory event in honor of Independence Day,” said Mark Meckler, a national coordinator for the demonstrations.

A love the way they’ve backward-named their little “movement” …

20. catnip - 4 July 2009

Today’s Moment of Cognitive Dissonancebrought to you by Barack Obama:

President Obama, strategizing yesterday with congressional leaders about health-care reform, complained that liberal advocacy groups ought to drop their attacks on Democratic lawmakers and devote their energy to promoting passage of comprehensive legislation.

In a pre-holiday call with half a dozen top House and Senate Democrats, Obama expressed his concern over advertisements and online campaigns targeting moderate Democrats, whom they criticize for not being fully devoted to “true” health-care reform.

“We shouldn’t be focusing resources on each other,” Obama opined in the call, according to three sources who participated in or listened to the conversation. “We ought to be focused on winning this debate.”

Now why does that sound familiar?

Oh yeah…

Coming soon to YouTube: Leave the Blue Dogs Alone!!!.

ms_xeno - 4 July 2009

“We shouldn’t be focusing resources on each other…”

Oh, go fuck yourself, Hopeman. There’s no “each other.” There’s the people who shovel shit onto a plate month after month and call it “recovery.” Then there’s the people like me, who get scolded roundly by your friends over our disinclination to eat any of it. Stop pretending that there’s some kind of fellowship between the two groups. There isn’t.

Anyway what do you care, Asshole? You know that come 2012, all you’ll have to do is whine a little about the nasty evil right-wingers (or have your big shills do it) and allllll the wayward sheep will come back to you, post-haste.

marisacat - 4 July 2009

well I think that is the plan… keep all who wish to stay or return in 2012 and pick up as many center right, conservatives, fundies and other whack jobs as he can diddle during these years.

catnip - 4 July 2009


ms_xeno - 5 July 2009

I had my chance at yesterday’s bbq, but I got lured away by the homemade carrot cake. These are the kinda’ problems you wanna’ have. Not the other kind. :/

catnip - 5 July 2009

I make wicked carrot cake. It’s a recipe handed down from my sister’s MIL – a Ukrainian baba.

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 4 July 2009

Republican State Senator: We Allow Gays To Exist

Leach: Should our only policy towards [same-sex] couples be one of punishment, to somehow prove that they’ve done something wrong?

Eichelberger: They’re not being punished. We’re allowing them to exist, and do what every American can do. We’re just not rewarding them with any special designation.

catnip - 4 July 2009

Wait til he finds out that I’m the one allowing him to exist.

22. marisacat - 4 July 2009

This Week: Biden. Roundtable with Liz Cheney, Matthew Dowd, Cynthia Tucker, George Will.

Face the Nation: Adm. Mike Mullen, Sens. Grassley, Schumer.

Fox News Sunday: Mullen, Rep. Boehner. Roundtable with Alaska Lt. Gov. Parnell, Huckabee, Rove.

State of the Union: Colin Powell, Mullen, Jordan’s Queen Noor.

Meet the Press: Preempted by Wimbledon

catnip - 4 July 2009

Meet the Press: Preempted by Wimbledon

Oh schucks. Mullen just about had a grand slam there.

23. marisacat - 4 July 2009

I caught the first few mins of whatever this threadbare (it really is) extravaganza is on the Capital mess of a frontage… and all I can say is Aretha is making the case for lip synching. Voice is shot. Or she can’t be bothered. Both probably.

24. Madman in the Marketplace - 4 July 2009
catnip - 4 July 2009

What does that have to do with Michael Jackson?

Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

Michael who?

catnip - 5 July 2009

touché 😉

25. marisacat - 4 July 2009

hmm i dropped in on the FP of the NYT… and they have unearthed (I don’t remember running into it before, but may have missed it) a three pager Ob wrote when at Columbia, March 1983, published in the Sundial.

The last graphs are kind of interesting, I am trying to remember what reason (if any) would have made him refer to Europe as a powder keg set to explode – in ’83.

It’s a quick read.

Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

The No Nukes movement was pretty active in 1983, and Reagan began pushing Star Wars. I remember the Soviets responding to that in very threatening ways, there were lots of reports of widespread proliferation.

The powder keg feeling was being driven by the US gov’t, IIRC.

marisacat - 5 July 2009

The powder keg feeling was being driven by the US gov’t, IIRC.

No wonder I didn’t see it (Europe) as a “powder keg set to blow” then. I remember Reagan and his Star Wars obviously… and the games and threats that went on…

Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

yup, WE were the powder keg.

26. catnip - 4 July 2009

Tonite’s winner of the Totally Clueless HuffPo Mouthpiece award goes to Erik Sean Nelson.

27. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

LOL … Palin is threatening to sue a bunch of bloggers and the media.

Bonus this morning, watching Tony Blankley from the Moonie Times praising her as the best intuitive politician in the Republican party.

28. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

Today’s “religion makes some people stupid” moment: Author Asks: If Every Man Could Have Gay Sex, Why Would He Need Women?

Beliefnet writer David Klinghoffer has a theory why women should fight societal acceptance of homosexuality: in a world where men can have sex with men without attendant opprobrium, they won’t want anything but. In other words: all men are gay.

Klinghoffer joins the grand new tradition of social conservatives from bestiality-lover Rick Santorum to sister-schtupper Glenn Beck who view social acceptance of same-sex couples through the narrow prism of their own fantasies. At least Klinghoffer’s don’t involve the family pet!

Klinghoffer does, however, come in the company of another man, Joshua Berman, a professor who argues that without societal strictures condemning male-on-male anal sex, men would undoubtedly prefer it to heterosexual vaginal copulation. His evidence for this is the widespread acceptance of male homosexuality in ancient Rome.

ms_xeno - 5 July 2009

I knew it! That’s why mr_xeno has more hair care products than I do! AND more pairs of shoes! [grumble grumble] I should never have stopped watching Oprah’s show… :/

29. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

Joe Biden: Israel Can Bomb Iran, We Can’t Stop Them

STEPHANOPOULOS: And meanwhile, Prime Minister Netanyahu has made it pretty clear that he agreed with President Obama to give until the end of the year for this whole process of engagement to work. After that, he’s prepared to make matters into his own hands.

Is that the right approach?

BIDEN: Look, Israel can determine for itself — it’s a sovereign nation — what’s in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Whether we agree or not?

BIDEN: Whether we agree or not. They’re entitled to do that. Any sovereign nation is entitled to do that. But there is no pressure from any nation that’s going to alter our behavior as to how to proceed.

What we believe is in the national interest of the United States, which we, coincidentally, believe is also in the interest of Israel and the whole world. And so there are separate issues.

If the Netanyahu government decides to take a course of action different than the one being pursued now, that is their sovereign right to do that. That is not our choice.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But just to be clear here, if the Israelis decide Iran is an existential threat, they have to take out the nuclear program, militarily the United States will not stand in the way?

BIDEN: Look, we cannot dictate to another sovereign nation what they can and cannot do when they make a determination, if they make a determination that they’re existentially threatened and their survival is threatened by another country.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You say we can’t dictate, but we can, if we choose to, deny over-flight rights here in Iraq. We can stand in the way of a military strike.

BIDEN: I’m not going to speculate, George, on those issues, other than to say Israel has a right to determine what’s in its interests, and we have a right and we will determine what’s in our interests.

The country in this whole thing that apparently DOESN’T have sovereign rights is Iran, signed treaties, international law and national borders not withstanding.

marisacat - 5 July 2009

Ob has said the same thing in the past few weeks, in one of his several sit down, one on one interviews. Forget who with. Israel is a sovereign nation and can operate as needed for her personal security. Who are we after all but just the FUCKING BILL PAYER.

Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

Biden also said something to the effect that they had no idea how bad the economy is.

marisacat - 5 July 2009

I jsut came across the report on that.. I kept dozing off during the Biden part and totally missed the roundtable. Or whatever the gaggle of goo goo is called.

His economic team was told by EVERYONE with half a brain their projections were off. IMO they knew perfectly well they were being ridiculous. But Goolsbee last week maintained on FOX everyone agreed with their projections. hardly. As I recall, NO ONE did.

We are so fucking screwed.

There start to b trickles, even on “hopelessly tied to the machine” KGO that there are NO JOBS in this Stumble Bill. Tho I heard Laughing Sal, Christine Romer, just two days ago prattle the “1900 construction jobs” line.

it may get very cold out there, BW review of unemployment numbers pointed out that white collar job loss is accelerating, fast. White collar, imo, has never given a damn when “old industry” or blue collar, or manufacturing jobs went…

So fucked.

marisacat - 5 July 2009

Another thing the BW delineated.. the bar to what the government calls full employment or prohibits a job falling into “underemployed”… 33 hours a week is full employment. So if you are furloughed by the many states, even one day a week, you will not swell the numbers of “un and under employed”. (At least as I, befuddled civilian, reads it)

We are moving to three days furlough per month for some state jobs… but at that rate they won’t swell the numbers.


Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

lies, damned lies and statistics.

catnip - 5 July 2009

I saw that story/video earlier.

Big admission from Vice President Joe Biden today.

“The truth is, we and everyone else misread the economy,” Biden told me during our exclusive “This Week” interview in Iraq.

Biden acknowledged administration officials were too optimistic earlier this year when they predicted the unemployment rate would peak at 8 percent as part of their effort to sell the stimulus package. The national unemployment rate has ballooned to 9.5 percent in June — the worst in 26 years.

“The truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited,” said Biden, who is leading the administration’s effort to implement it’s $787 billion economic stimulus plan.

“Now, that doesn’t — I’m not — it’s now our responsibility. So the second question becomes, did the economic package we put in place, including the Recovery Act, is it the right package given the circumstances we’re in? And we believe it is the right package given the circumstances we’re in,” he told me.

The vice president argued more time is needed for the stimulus to work.

“We misread how bad the economy was, but we are now only about 120 days into the recovery package,” he said. “The truth of the matter was, no one anticipated, no one expected that that recovery package would in fact be in a position at this point of having to distribute the bulk of money.”

Biden didn’t rule out a second government stimulus package, but downplayed calls from Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman this week that a second stimulus will be needed.

I pressed the vice president, who is also leading the administration’s middle-class task force, on whether he’d rule out a second stimulus package.

“So, no second stimulus?” I asked.

“No, I didn’t say that,” Biden said, “I think it’s premature to make that judgment. This was set up to spend out over 18 months. There are going to be major programs that are going to take effect in September, $7.5 billion for broadband, new money for high-speed rail, the implementation of the grid — the new electric grid. And so this is just starting, the pace of the ball is now going to increase.”

catnip - 5 July 2009

The country in this whole thing that apparently DOESN’T have sovereign rights is Iran, signed treaties, international law and national borders not withstanding.


But the so-called progressives will tell you just how HUGE Obamalama’s influence is on Netanyahu. Really – they will.

Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

Biden’s Dicta

The United States military assistance program to the { Zionist Entity | Jewish State | Israel } (pick one according to taste) is a means of … selecting outcomes, as are several other forms of overt, and covert, financial assistance.

Three F*ing times he repeated the message to Stephanaopoulos. We may as well tell Dick Cheney to come back and start yet another war for the sheer joy of cordite and kinetic effects.

I suppose we’re used to a government so stupid it could add two and two and come up with an odd integer, so having the “serious foreign policy half” of the center-right ticket suddenly announce that the US has forgotten that it makes or breaks the Egyptian, Jordanian and Israeli governments with the same material largess given, or withheld, and other banana republics and banana monarchies, this shouldn’t hurt more than a lamp post to the face.

So Bibi and Ehud, joined at the hip by the Russian xenophobic mafia, have a green light to play “risk”. Next week I suppose this administration will find it can’t demand that its citizens be released by the pirates that lurk off the coast of Palestine because … that would be dictating to another sovereign nation.

marisacat - 5 July 2009

I never go to that site… Did she push Ob in the GE and the primaries?

Sure seems unhappy now.

30. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009
31. marisacat - 5 July 2009

Well he’s off! To Russia for three days.. and Rome, the Vatican, the earthquake area (L’Aquila?) for some economic sludge fest and Ghana.

The article in Politico about the supposed WHY he is not giving some big speech in Ghana is hilarious. I remember Bill’s speech to a sea of black faces (a vision I am sure Obama handlers want badly, “see! he can keep them down!”)… in ’98 but I had forgotten (or never knew) that as he was lightly mauled in the surging, over exuberant (let’s be kind) mass of human flesh, his aides feared transmission of HIV or some other disease.


32. Madman in the Marketplace - 5 July 2009

‘Rationing’ Health Care: What Does It Mean?

When a government insurance program refuses to pay for procedures that the managers of those insurance pools do not consider worth the taxpayer’s money, these critics immediately trot out the R-word. It is the core of their argument against cost-effectiveness analysis and a public health plan for the nonelderly.

On the other hand, these same people believe that when, for similar reasons, a private health insurer refuses to pay for a particular procedure or has a price-tiered formulary for drugs – e.g., asking the insured to pay a 35 percent coinsurance rate on highly expensive biologic specialty drugs that effectively put that drug out of the patient’s reach — the insurer is not rationing health care. Instead, the insurer is merely allowing “consumers” (formerly “patients”) to use their discretion on how to use their own money. The insurers are said to be managing prudently and efficiently, forcing patients to trade off the benefits of health care against their other budget priorities.

These thoughts popped into my head as I sat as a guest in the White House East Room during last week’s ABC News town hall meeting. There a neurologist suggested in his question that the president and his policy-making team seek to impose rationing of health care so that more lower-income Americans can receive it, all the while refusing to countenance that rationing for their own families.

One must wonder where people worried about “rationing” health care have been in the last 20 years. Could they possibly be unaware that the United States health system has rationed health care in spades for many years, on the economist’s definition of rationing, and that President Obama and Congress are now desperately seeking to reduce or eliminate that form of rationing?

marisacat - 5 July 2009

ugh. I think the ultimate in “rationing” is the dumping of charity or Medic-Aid / Medi-Cal patients to any old corner on skid row… sometimes with an IV still in their arm. Once on a gurney. Several times in a wheel chair. All of which has been captured on security cameras in the greater LA area. Or deaths on cameras in ER waiting rooms, caught several times…

Hard to beat that rationing. Other than obvious death from lack of care, early intervention care when people fear seeking care due to cost, loss of coverage when ill and making too much for government subsidised care. Etc. It goes on and on and on and on and on..

33. marisacat - 5 July 2009

new thread…


… 🙄 ……….

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