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War Forever 19 July 2009

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, Afghanistan War, AFRICOM, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War, Pakistan, Turkey, WAR!.

Farmers along the Euphrates say that they may have to abandon Anbar rice, a higher value grain that commands patriotic pride in the area, for cheaper varieties. [Photo: Moises Saman for The New York Times]

NYT has an article up on the shrinking of the Euphrates…

The shrinking of the Euphrates, a river so crucial to the birth of civilization that the Book of Revelation prophesied its drying up as a sign of the end times, has decimated farms along its banks, has left fishermen impoverished and has depleted riverside towns as farmers flee to the cities looking for work.

“Next winter will be the final chance,” said Hashem Hilead Shehi, a 73-year-old farmer who lives in a bone-dry village west of the marshes. “If we are not able to plant, then all of the families will leave.”


Elsewhere, exhibiting drought of a different sort, Peter Bergen says we (and who is that?) can win in Afghanistan. His writings on this are loaded from top to bottom with propaganda…

Washington Monthly:

[N]or has the U.S. intervention in Afghanistan been anywhere near as expensive as Vietnam was—in fact, that’s in part why American efforts have not met with as much success as they could have. During the Vietnam War, the United States spent almost 10 percent of its GDP on military spending. Today’s military expenditures are somewhere between 4 and 5 percent of GDP, and of that, Afghanistan last year consumed only 6 percent of the total expenditure, while Iraq sucked up some five times that amount. And unlike the Vietnamese and Iraqis, Afghans have generally embraced international forces. In 2005, four years after the fall of the Taliban, eight out of ten Afghans expressed in a BBC/ABC poll a favorable opinion of the United States, and the same number supported foreign soldiers in their country. Contrast that with Iraq, where a BBC/ABC poll in 2005 found that only one in three Iraqis supported international forces in their country. While the same poll taken in Afghanistan this year reported, for the first time, that just under half of Afghans have a favorable view of the United States, that’s still a higher approval rating than the U.S. gets in any other Muslim-majority country save Lebanon. And a solid majority of Afghans continue to approve of the international forces in their country. What Afghans want is not for American and other foreign soldiers to leave, but for them to deliver on their promises of helping to midwife a more secure and prosperous country.  …snip...

And for maximum insanity, he slobbers out the propaganda on McChrystal, that he is mindful of “collateral damage” civilian casualties.. and well, he’ll be “mindful”.

This evening I also landed on a strangely straight forward and direct article in the Telegraph on Afghanistan, saying quite directly that Obama plans to build up the Afghani security forces and quite showily ”depart”, in the months prior to the re election, November 2012.  Really?  I doubt it.  Another fake withdrawal, like Iraq.  And fake food for Africa, with guns.  And a lecturing US President with a smiling black face.  Advancement?  I don’t think so.

[G]host soldiers and an enemy that never seems to be beaten despite big losses is reminiscent of another war that went awry. Journalists who have been here since before the Helmand operation of 2006 have a sense of foreboding that was present during the latter stages of the Vietnam war. There was a substantial surge in troops before the Americans withdrew from South Vietnam, leaving behind a corrupt government and army that collapsed at their first test.

The Kabul hacks struggle to be persuaded by commanding officers who fly in for six-month tours talking about a “winnable war” and keeping the terrorists off the streets of Britain. There is also growing cynicism over the politicians – Gordon Brown included – trotting out the line that we are there to prevent another September 11 or July 7. Even some officers are beginning to ask if “we are creating more terrorists than we are killing”.

The Americans have showed that numbers work. In the first six hours of Panther’s Claw, 4,000 men backed by Sea Stallion helicopters secured an area of southern Helmand that had been held by the Taliban for three years. Contrast this with the couple of hundred British soldiers clinging on to the same area since 2006 supported by the handful of Chinook helicopters serving an entire province.

There are now 10,000 US Marines arriving in Helmand, and the numbers and equipment could mark the “tipping point” that British commanders have been hoping for. Things could also improve once the Kabul government starts talks with members of the Taliban not wholly committed to its nihilistic ideology. That could happen soon after the elections next month.

To leave the country secure, an Afghan force of 250,000 trained men is needed. This is expected to be in place before the next US presidential election in 2012. A swift departure before American voters go to the polls is what the Obama administration wants. The current American review of Afghanistan is probably going to set low, achievable targets so it can reduce its forces. …snip…

I don’t even know what to say anymore…


On the flip side, Cockburn has a post up with several of the recent comments from Obama and Hillary.  Geesh.  It only matters if Bush (or Cheney, satan incarnate) says it.  Very clearly.

Against the backdrop of their co-mingled gurglings is this:

Meanwhile the troops and weapons flow towards Afghanistan, with vast, Vietnam-style “sweep” operations under way.

And how is the antiwar movement here dealing with that? Answer, what antiwar movement? We certainly can’t watch what it’s doing, because the answer is nothing. And we can’t hear what it’s saying, because there too the answer is nothing.

Where are the mobilizations, actions, civil disobedience? Antiwar coalitions like United for Peace and Justice and Win Without War (with MoveOn also belatedly adopting this craven posture) don’t say clearly “US troops out now!” They whine about the “absence of a clear mission” (Win Without War), plead futilely for “an exit strategy” (UFPJ). One letter from the UFPJ coalition (which includes Code Pink) to the Congressional Progressive Caucus in May laconically began a sentence with the astounding words, “To defeat the Taliban and stabilize the country, the U.S. must enable the Afghan people…” These pathetic attempts not to lose “credibility” and thus attain political purchase have met with utter failure, as the recent vote on a supplemental appropriation proved.

A realistic estimate is that among the Democrats in Congress there are fewer than forty solid antiwar votes.



1. catnip - 19 July 2009

Oh puhlease. From a dkos diary about the kidnapping of the US soldier:

We have avoided this for so long…. (2+ / 0-)

..and now, here it is. Young man: Fear not. You know that the entire country supports you and is wishing for a positive outcome for you.

Taliban: I have been following you ever since, quite a few years ago, I learned that you purposely destroyed an enormous several thousand year old Buddha carved into a mountainside in Afghanistan, because it offended thee in some way. We WILL go to the cave where you live and furthermore, we will throw the harsh light of day on your cohorts in our own country so that we can return the renaissance of human understanding, unclouded by the superstitions that have robbed you of your humanity. Be afraid.

Tonight I’m going to party like it’s 1929.

by Bensdad on Sun Jul 19, 2009 at 10:43:11 AM MDT

Which part of stop acting like an imperialist asshole don’t you understand?

marisacat - 19 July 2009

wow.. that was pompous..

catnip - 19 July 2009

Some U.S. leaflets dropped in the area showed a U.S. soldier shaking hands with smiling Afghan children, and read: “One of our American guests is missing. Return the guest to his home.”

They’re “guests” now, are they?

But others were more aggressive, showing soldiers kicking in the doors of a house, with the words: “If you do not release the U.S. soldier you will be hunted.”

Guess that’s the “diplomacy” Obamalama promised.

Madman in the Marketplace - 19 July 2009

good imperialist, bad imperialist … sometimes bad imperialist leaps across your goat and starts slapping you around, with good imperialist trying to drag him off. Good imperialist then offers you a cigarette and promises that you can have your children back if only you help out, just this once.

BooHooHooMan - 19 July 2009

IIRC, that guy “BensDad” is in the Israel, Israel, Right or Wrong crowd too on dk. Part of a piece. Maybe his kid Ben should go. See how it sounds when someone says Don’t you worry son, we got your back… – from a world away

2. marisacat - 19 July 2009

Not that any of these cocksure statements makes any sense.. but gee. Fellas. “Bring it on”, sure rings out here. From Politico

“It’s the third quarter, he’s down by a point, and he’s got his best player on the bench – what really is going to be important is the fall,” said James Carville, the veteran Democratic observer.

“If he gets what’s perceived to be some kind of a major health care thing, gets the climate bill through, if the economy recovers, then we’ll all say he had a hell of a summer. Conversely, if the thing falls apart, we’ll say that by July the 19th we could tell the thing was going bad.”

White House Deputy Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer dismissed the suggestion that Obama should be expected to succeed effortlessly – or that he’s on a path toward failure on any of these varied fronts.

“Obama and his team have been down this road dozens of times and been declared dead many times and always succeeded,” he said. “No one gets rich betting against Barack Obama.” …

Nope, don’t think he has ever hit the end of the honeymoon as Pretzel before. No.. double checked: has not.

3. marisacat - 19 July 2009

Laura Rozen has a post up on the Riyadh meeting of last month.

moiv - 19 July 2009

Maybe The Onion was right after all ….

Sources say Obama was hoping to persuade the king to be ready to show reciprocal gestures to Israel, which Washington has been pushing to halt settlements with the goal of advancing regional peace and the creation of a Palestinian state.

“The more time goes by, the more the Saudi meeting was a watershed event,” said the former U.S. official who recently traveled to Riyadh. “It was the first time that President Obama as a senator, candidate, or president was not able to get almost anything or any movement using his personal power of persuasion.”

Or maybe the king was simply crushed that a meeting with the US Pretzel-in-Chief didn’t mean another hand-in-hand stroll through the garden with Bush.

Another official, speaking not for attribution, said last month that the 85-year-old Saudi monarch had launched a tirade during Obama’s long meeting in Riyadh, and that other Saudi officials had later apologized to the U.S. president for the king’s behavior. The official seemed to imply that the tirade was related to Israel, and that the king may be showing his age.

Either way, it’s not looking too good.

marisacat - 19 July 2009

Or maybe the king was simply crushed that a meeting with the US Pretzel-in-Chief didn’t mean another hand-in-hand stroll through the garden with Bush.

Bring on those Texas Blue Bonnets!… which is what I looked at as they skipped along hand in hand.

Well the King got a bow out of Obama. (looked like a head bow to me!)… will have to do. I bet next time Ob does more.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 July 2009
marisacat - 19 July 2009

.. god bless The Onion.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 July 2009
6. BooHooHooMan - 19 July 2009

And God Bless
Elliot Spitzer’s Spritzer Service…

Seems there is another married Gov about to be named…
Place your bets…Rendell anyone? Plese let it be hime Sweet Frolicking Jesus. LOL….

Hmmm. Spitzer’s Spritzer took place at the National Governor’s Association meetings in DC, no? Of late, Rendell is no mere titular head at NGA., he’s the Chairman Fratboy. Frankly, I think Rendell is the Dem-side guy who greased the wheels to get the New York rip-off artists plugged into the Statehouses around the country for the Pension, Bond Issue and Money Management looting that occurred on an unprecedented scale…

Anyways, while slipping into something more comfortable, LOL-


Though Annie’s former boss, ex-madam Kristin Davis, corroborates that Gov. X was a client, his spokesman flatly denies that the married politician has ever hired hookers.

Still, it’s hard not to be intrigued by Annie’s detailed story. She contends that, in the spring of 2006, Davis’ agency booked her for an out-of-state date with a man identified as “Michael.”

“He picked me up in an Italian sports car,” says Annie. “He was in his 30s, handsome enough to be an actor, an impeccable dresser. I wouldn’t think he’d have a problem getting girls.

“We went to a restaurant where the governor was dining at another table with two or three other men. Michael said the governor was a client of his. He introduced me to him. I thought it was odd that he’d introduce someone he’d hired, but the governor was very gracious. It was a brief meeting. Later, Michael and I went to an apartment our agency kept. We had sex.

“A couple of days later, Michael booked another appointment. He was supposed to come to the same apartment. I buzzed him in. When I opened the door, it wasn’t Michael. It was the governor. He was smiling. I knew what was happening. I was okay with it.

“He was a very standard client. He didn’t take the full hour. There was no exchange of money. Michael handled the payment.

“I had two more dates with the governor. Never in public. Always for just an hour, around dinner time. He’d arrive at the apartment in a suit. I never had a problem with him, like I did with Spitzer. He was always nice. There wasn’t a lot of conversation. It wasn’t a girlfriend experience, but he was relaxed. He was very appreciative, like I was giving him a sort of affection he wasn’t getting elsewhere. Later I found out he was married. His wife is quite prominent in her own right.” (Annie and Davis say Gov. X is free to say he didn’t pay for sex, since “Michael” took care of the bills.)

P.S. Among Davis’ other alleged clients: Bernie Madoff. An assistant to the jailed Ponzi scammer has already told of his fondess for noontime massages. ABC News has now found the number for Davis’ closed New York Body Miracle, once located near Madoff’s offices, in his leather-bound phone book.

Hmmm… A Guv whose wife “is quite prominent in her own right”…
Rendell’s wife is a Federal Judge..

But the thing with Spitzer had a certain m.o. behind it..
Something tied up (so to speak) with financial bondage and political discipline…

Poking around , I was surprised to find this From JTA last year…

Israeli twist in Spitzer scandal

By Ron Kampeas · March 10, 2008

WASHINGTON (JTA) – A fast-rising Democratic governor, an out-of-control sex drive and an Israeli enabler – it feels like deja vu all over again on the Hudson.

Just four years after the then-governor of New Jersey, James McGreevey, resigned amid revelations of an affair with his Israeli-born ex-homeland security chief, Golan Cipel, Americans again were treated to the spectacle of the governor of a large northeastern state standing alongside a grim-looking wife and admitting he had erred.

The New York Times broke the news that the anti-crime crusader was allegedly involved in a prostitution ring.

…Mark Brener, the alleged pimp at the center of the prostitution scandal engulfing Spitzer, is an Israeli.

….Spitzer, once seen as a strong candidate to be the first Jewish president, built his career as an anti-crime, anti-corruption crusader. Most of his cases were high-profile Wall Street targets, but during his eight-year stint as state attorney general, Spitzer’s office also investigated at least two Jewish organizations, the National Council of Young Israel and the World Jewish Congress.

BooHooHooMan - 19 July 2009

LOL. ** Please Let it be **him** Ye Sweet Frolicking Jesus- LMAO. (Wouldn’t want to be controversial now…)

marisacat - 19 July 2009

Yeah I thought the whole Cipel deal was a much bigger reality than “I am a Gay American”. People quickly missed that Cipel, for no reason other than a sexual connection, was given the spot of state Homeland Security Czarina. Or whatever the title was in Jersey.

Oh please, what a joke it all was.

And the McGreevy ex wif got very very quiet after some guy surfaced who said he had threesomes with the First Couple (of New Jersey!).. and had for years.

BooHooHooMan - 19 July 2009

LOL. The Interwebs are on it.

Is Fast Eddie Governor X?

And, via Twitter

– Hooker who worked for Kristin Davis: Spitzer not my only governor. http://tr.im/t4ck God, if you’re there, please let it be Corzine. Please.

In this time of crisis, the whole country unites in prayer hoping it’s THEIR Governor who’s roast salami.. 😀

marisacat - 19 July 2009

Or Corzine and Rendell double dated.

I finally saw a camera shot of Rendell, not full face frontal but a full side shot, oh my. Did his mother carry him strapped to a board when he was a baby? How does someone get that flat a back of the head? It verged on abnormal.

BooHooHooMan - 19 July 2009


marisacat - 19 July 2009

I think it was just a matter of time before someone got moving on a Big Time Dem Governor, at the least.

Sanford was way too much fun… and I am guessing on the week away with the wif, she has some duct tape for his mouth. Unless he wants to be cut off, out of the governor’s manse and whatever else the wealthier of the two in a marriage can impose.

catnip - 19 July 2009

Sanford just won’t shut up.

Governor Mark Sanford has once again addressed his extra-marital affair, this time, not only apologizing, but also highlighting the lessons he’s learned and how he plans to move forward.

After admitting last month that he’d had an affair with an Argentine woman. Sunday, an opinion piece was published in state newspapers, authored by Sanford.

The governor wrote that God is helping to change him and that he will emerge from this incident a more humble and effective leader.

And Borowitz responds: God Orders Sanford to Stop Putting Words in His Mouth

marisacat - 19 July 2009

Sunday, an opinion piece was published in state newspapers, authored by Sanford.

Apparently Mrs Governor Sanford missed when trying to slap on the duct tape.

Madman in the Marketplace - 19 July 2009

It certainly wasn’t kosher, none of it.


marisacat - 19 July 2009

🙄 🙄

BooHooHooMan - 19 July 2009

And the McGreevy ex wif got very very quiet after some guy surfaced who said he had threesomes with the First Couple (of New Jersey!).. and had for years.

Well we ARE very liberal here, the official corruption Mafia killings and pollution aside… We now are the only state in The Union™ that has, like jury duty, a mandatory requirement for all adult residents to engage at one timme or other in their lives in a three-or-more-some with the First Couple…LOL.

catnip - 19 July 2009

We now are the only state in The Union™ that has, like jury duty, a mandatory requirement for all adult residents to engage at one timme or other in their lives in a three-or-more-some with the First Couple…LOL.

Yet you still live there.

Interesting… 😛

BooHooHooMan - 20 July 2009

I just figured, as a good citizen ‘n all,
it’s socially responsible and ultimately Saves us Money, the Pols not having to filch the extracurricular mwahamba money out of the treasury somehow and funneling it to the escort service through channels. Plus it creates ‘jobs. Of a sort.
My neighbors, Mel and Frida Shnordrenfren –
they just got back from Drumthwacket quite refreshed. Corzine’s handlers even let them spank the Governor’s bum. Sumpin about bringin him down after the Obama Event and Corzine “having to get used to it”….

So much for this doggy’s doggerel.
TMI , I know…

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 July 2009
8. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 July 2009
marisacat - 19 July 2009

God bless The Onion, over and over.

I hope they have a lot of fun with his mix of froideur and … hmm fake clerical finger spanks.

It’s getting fucking odd.

9. catnip - 19 July 2009

Top headline at HuffPo:

White House Launches New Health Care Strategy:
‘All Obama, All The Time’

It’s been 24/7 Obama since he took office. They’re just realizing this now? Quick – how many yanks can even name the secretary of HHS?

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 19 July 2009

Mass ‘Kiss-In’ Protest At Mormon Temple Leads To Confrontation

SALT LAKE CITY — A mass-kissing protest near the Mormon church temple Sunday drew a shouting match between gay activists and a group of faithful Mormons.

For the second consecutive weekend, about 100 people gathered to stage a “kiss-in” to protest the treatment of two gay men cited for trespassing July 9 after they shared a kiss on the plaza owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Both gay and straight couples exchanged kisses during the protest.

Demonstrators were greeted at the south entrance by a group of protesters carrying large signs that denounced homosexuality, prompting a heated verbal exchange.

11. catnip - 19 July 2009

Hilarious! UPDATED: My Apology

There are two issues:

First, that no matter how long my association with the blogging community in fact because of that long association – it is even more important that I disclose any professional relationship with any candidate or issue I blog about or comment on.

I have failed to do that – I apologize for not doing it. And it will not happen again.

This failure was mine completely – how I didn’t see it or in my own words how I didn’t “get it” is beyond me – but I do now – and I will not fail in disclosing my professional relationships with candidates or the causes I believe in or work for in the future.

Second and just as important to me personally is the recent disrespect shown by sockpuppeting. And I take full responsibility and apologize completely for this as well. It is no excuse that I knew nothing about it – I promise you I did not. And yes it took bringing it to my attention before I looked into it.

But once I did it became clear to me that interns and a few staff who are my responsibility did create seven DailyKos accounts – two of which were never used but five of which were used to comment and post diaries here for the same candidates I was working for, sockpuppeting the same things I was saying here and elsewhere. This is so unacceptable that I cannot believe it happened – but it did.


Nope. No operatives over there. No siree!

catnip - 19 July 2009

Oops. That was posted by Joe Trippi – goof extraordinaire.

marisacat - 19 July 2009

LOL that was the “drippy Trippi”…

But I always assumed Trippy, Wee Markos, Rosenberg of New Democrats… and that consultant wanna be, Len Downey Jr or III or whatever, son of the Downeys of SC (he used to be Chair of the DNC and she is party chair of SC, she is the one who said Palin’s only qualification for office was to not have had an abortion)… anyway I always assumed those 4 assholes all knew each other, from before…. No question on Kos and Rosenberg, but I would toss in Downey and Trippi as well. If nothing else they knew each other thru Silicon Valley… and Cali politics.

catnip - 19 July 2009
marisacat - 19 July 2009

people always sell out so cheap. Kinda interesting, over and over.

First of all, the only reason Trippi “apologized” was that he got caught by PolitickerNY reporter Jason Horowitz, who looked up Maloney’s second quarter FEC filing and found a $10,500 check to Trippi dated June 5.

Trippi’s diaries at DKos and HuffPo were on June 24, and he essentially stated (in response to questions in the comments) that he was not working for Maloney on that date.

On the other hand, Howard, who most likely took no cash, has endorsed Gillibrand. If he gave the slightest shit about being helpful, he would nto endorse the likes of Gillibrand. Not that it matters by now.

catnip - 19 July 2009

What a weasel.

marisacat - 19 July 2009

Luv the two dames who lined up to bitch. Bronte17 who has never really (that I know of) opposed the status quo there, quite the sycophant for DHinMI as I recall… and Mia Dolan. No need to explain that one.

Could Trippi get slimier? Oh I would guess so.

marisacat - 19 July 2009

ooops no I recall now, Bronte17 was a sycophant for Fernando. Armando. Big Tentola. My tent or your tent. Whoever that was or is.

catnip - 20 July 2009

He got $10,500 just to tell reporters that Maloney wasn’t running? Where can I get a job like that?

marisacat - 20 July 2009

well… that is what he says…………….

12. marisacat - 19 July 2009

fwiw.. balz has a post up on numbers slippage. or just slippage.

13. marisacat - 19 July 2009

Via Ben Smith / Politico. All I ask no presser with Q & A.

Obama to meet Mormon leader

From the no-stone-unturned department: Tomorrow’s schedule says the president will meet Latter-Day Saints Church President Thomas Monson, in the company of Senate Minority Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Mormon.

Obama’s likeliest 2012 foe, Mitt Romney, is a Mormon whose political organization has long drawn support from LDS, but that’s evidently no obstacle.

marisacat - 20 July 2009

no…………………………… (via The Page)

Obama scheduled to hold policy roundtable, give yet another speech on health legislation Monday at the White House.

Plus: NY Times on Michelle Obama getting more involved in the effort.

Please please please, wear 540.00 Lanvin sneakers and flounce skirts with under crinolines. I. cannot. wait.

Probably the most notable thing she did at UCHospitals was connive with Axelrod to divert poor clients away from walk-in care, ER care – and to clinics he had a financial interest in… a runner up would be to stifle (she did this directly, intervening as a non-medically trained person) late stage free access to one of the anti HPV innoculations, free to young women in the poorer districts around UC. I have never been able to run down the whole story on that one. Tho I tried. She claimed the taint of the Tuskegee experiments.

You know, fuck them all, both. All of them.

catnip - 20 July 2009

Can’t sing. Might as well dance.

14. marisacat - 20 July 2009

Whatever their purpose, Mayo Clinic is not wrong here… at least in the over all reality that the changes planned are not patient-focused nor well-oriented. Tapper v Gibbs

TAPPER: The president has had a lot of kind words to say about the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and their ability to provide quality health care and reduce costs. But the clinic issued a statement about the House Democrats’ bill, saying,

“The proposed legislation misses the opportunity to help create higher quality, more affordable health care for patients, and in fact it will do the opposite. In general, the proposals are not — under discussion are not patient-focused or results-oriented. Lawmakers have failed to use the fundamental lever of changing Medicare payment policy to help drive necessary improvements in American health care.”

Does the president have any response to that, given his respect for the way the Mayo Clinic provides health care?

GIBBS: I saw that not long before I came out here. I don’t — I’ve asked the health policy people to look directly into that. I know that we’ve worked with — with, as I said, doctors and nurses and lots of stakeholders on improving legislation, making sure that we’re focused on patient quality, making sure that we’re focused on cost-effective medicine. And that’s what we’ll continue to do. I’ll work on getting something more specific.

Madman in the Marketplace - 20 July 2009
15. marisacat - 20 July 2009

ugh.. what does anyone manage to say to this.

A series of bailouts, bank rescues and other economic lifelines could end up costing the federal government as much as $23 trillion, the U.S. government’s watchdog over the effort says – a staggering amount that is nearly double the nation’s entire economic output for a year.

If the feds end up spending that amount, it could be more than the federal government has spent on any single effort in American history.

For the government to be on the hook for the total amount, worst-case scenarios would have to come to pass in a variety of federal programs, which is unlikely, says Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general for the government’s financial bailout programs, in testimony prepared for delivery to the House oversight committee Tuesday.

The Treasury Department says less than $2 trillion has been spent so far. …

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25164.html#ixzz0LqVtNGTR

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 July 2009
Madman in the Marketplace - 20 July 2009

Oh, and one of my favorite rememberences:

On July 20th, 1969…by Joe Haldeman

Gay and I were spending the summer (my first since returning from Vietnam) in Guadalajara, Mexico. We’d taken a long weekend to go enjoy the beach at San Patricio, a fishing village.

We planned to get back to Guadalajara long before the Apollo landing. But they moved the landing up by several hours—and there was no way for us to know! San Patricio is in the shadow of the mountains, and couldn’t receive any radio or television.

So we got back to Guadalajara with only minutes to spare, but I didn’t know that. I dropped Gay off at the house where we were staying, and then drove across town to take an American hitchhiker home.

So she saw the landing, but I had to watch the re-runs. Which were pretty interesting; American video with Mexican audio. I saw Walter Cronkite looking really serious while the sound track went “¡Tequila Sauza est tequila mas fina!”

brinn - 21 July 2009


17. marisacat - 20 July 2009

Obama deputises Blahgers. Really.

In a reflection of a legislative strategy that has left no stone unturned, President Barack Obama on Monday called on like-minded bloggers to help his administration keep the heat on lawmakers to pass health care reform.

“It is important just to keep the pressure on members of Congress because what happens is there is a default position of inertia here in Washington,” the president said during an invitation-only conference call. “And pushing against that, making sure that people feel that the desperation that ordinary families are feeling all across the country, every single day, when they are worrying about whether they can pay their premiums or not… People have to feel that in a visceral way. And you guys can help deliver that better than just about anybody.”

In a roughly 25-minute session with a handful of prominent progressive bloggers, the president also asked for help combating disinformation about his health care plan. …

each and every miniscule, fly-sized pretzel shook with joy at the sound of Big Pretzel’s voice.

BooHooHooMan - 20 July 2009

{… post ObbaBloggaBackSlappee…}

Talking McFoam Doll Diary.

Now there’s InteractiveMcFoam Doll Diary !
Just pull her string and YOU TOO can chat with McFoam!
It’s ALMOST like talking to an AUTHENTIC PERSON!

It was a good call (23+ / 0-)

I’m so pleased that we’ve got an intelligent, thoughtful, president who can really talk policy. What a nice change.

“A hungry man is not a free man.”–Adlai Stevenson

by mcjoan on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 04:34:48 PM PDT

LOL. Fuckin Robot.

And the usual Astroturf gems as sprinklies, too –

Some links to donate? (4+ / 0-)

Running ads against blue dogs is good, and they need money.

“YES WE CAN” doesn’t mean he is going to. ~~Daily Show

by dkmich on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 04:36:11 PM PDT

Go to Fire Dog Lake and give your money to Jane. (5+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
slinkerwink, < — Ex Hill Staffer, BTWjimreyn, sherlyle, Dustee, RJP9999

She needs money for her trips tom D.C. and for the Whip Tool website.
{ hyperlink in original- BHHM}

And you can show some $love$ at OFA, and at ActBlue.

They ignored us. Then they laughed at us. Then they fought us. Then – on July 2nd 2009 – we won! [ht: Mohandas K. Gandhi]

by ezdidit on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 04:58:27 PM PDT

Dig the guy’s sig. First they ignored us yada yada , “we Won” , hat tip Ghandi.

But here’s a real Twit Trifecta-
1.) the groveling bloggee before McJoan, {McJoan!}
2.) followed by her effort at “No Problem” –
for pathetic, pointed purpose of personal puffery. Publicly. . What a NaBob.
Jeezis. Why doesn’t she just parrot “..and I live in the McFoam Doll HOUSE with Ken and a plastic sports car.”
???? 😯

I apologize for jumping on before (3+ / 0-)

the tip jar – I thought it was auto-generating. I guess it is different for front page editors.

Demographics do not equal destiny.

by dr fatman on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 04:37:44 PM PDT

[ Parent ]

We don’t have tip jars >(6+ / 0-)

don’t need ’em.

“A hungry man is not a free man.”–Adlai Stevenson

by mcjoan on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 04:45:27 PM PDT

[ Parent ]
I’d hide rec you (1+ / 0-)

Anyways, he he he.

Seriously thank you all for the great work you have been doing. I believe when we cross that finish line, with a pretty darn good bill, it will say so much about where we are in this new day and age.


“Don’t bet against us” -President Barack Obama

by theone718 on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 05:43:26 PM PDT

I never get invited to these calls (8+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
slinkerwink, mcjoan,
Phil S 33, mcmom, flumptytail, ezdidit, soms, Dustee

He knows all I’m going to do is complain about my grades.

Support the DFA-Netroots Nation Scholarship Program

by Adam B on Mon Jul 20, 2009 at 04:40:27 PM PDT

Adam Bonehead is kind of like Ken living in the McFoam Doll House but duller. Amazing feat, considering he is more CONSERVATIVE, and Plastic too::
~ that portly, yet well plied con having pliably bobbleheaded his way through Constitutional Law under
“Professor” {Don’t-Look-Ken} Obama…Which, LOL – he damn near LIVES to point out at every opportunity.

That thread encapsulates much of what’s The Suck about dailykos.
And Democratic FOLLOWERS.

marisacat - 20 July 2009

well.. they speak for themselves. Not much to add.

But “McFoam” is very good!

18. BooHooHooMan - 20 July 2009

Blogger Lost In the Irony Aisle at Big Orange-

Obama News Conference Bumped by Reality TV

marisacat - 20 July 2009

abc here just announced they will carry ob at 5 pm pacific………….. [wed, i mean]

19. BooHooHooMan - 21 July 2009

Ob urging Bloggers to pester Congress… what sacks.
The old nudge nudge wink wink already arranged.
Clinton’s Third Term to be followed followed by a re-election bid for Quadrangulation in 2012. What dead dicks.

The Clinton’s invited their political grief come the end of their term, opportunistic as it was, would have gotten it anyways. IMO invited their denial of the nom from “the base” for her war vote and all their betrayals in the 90’s. Ob’s re-election scenario as an incumbent will be easier than Bill’s lame duck time or Hillary’s run ( unless and prolly only if Hillary doesn’t break and challenge him in 012.)

But what is Obama going to do when the results of his fucking, uhm, pretty much everyone are clear? Call Indies racists? Have Arovosis and Sully mollify the GLBT community? Trot out “the leading Liberal Bloggers “??? The Leading Liberal Anything?? How relevant will Andy Stern be by then with Labor? Or a broke , unemployed, and demoralized Union base itself?
Good Luck!

What did the Dems actually DO to “Win”? Nothing. Breathe, maybe while the Republicans took the lions share in their run. Did the Dems actually ever reinvent themselves after Carter? They didn’t have to. A new, seemingly sincere face was all it took. Emphasis NEW. Thus Clinton. Same for Obama. Same for some shmuck of a Republican I think in 2012 because The Damage is accelerating. The looting is too great, too deep. The country is still in denial over the structural damage done. Enter a cycle of one and done Pretzels, little nibblers.
It’s all we can afford to stomach really. Moreover, Thrown back abroad, I think it’s all our PTB will allow given their need to continue warring for materiel and the charade of equilibrium-seeking in the “democratic process”…,the charade of the “democratic process” itself. Act locally? Think again. Politically connected Law Firms run state and municipal governments too. And around we go..

marisacat - 21 July 2009

it was a very interesting election, 2008. And very odd. I see Ob winning in 12… even if there are big big problems.. (and why would there not be? 🙄 )

But he’s going to be like the moon shots… done that and done with that… and over. We will have done Black Pretzel and will move on.

And considering what an advertisement he is for sick imperialism, fine with me. I just hope he does nto live as long as Carter (except for “Typical White Person” Grannie, his family checks out early for any number of reasons). I can’t take two like that hanging around for 35 years.

20. BooHooHooMan - 21 July 2009
21. BooHooHooMan - 21 July 2009

Rasmussen – 2012 Match-ups:

Obama 45% Romney 45%
Obama 48% Palin 42%


‘nite .

22. marisacat - 21 July 2009

nu thred…


23. artemis54 - 21 July 2009

I can’t access that NYT article for some reason, but I hope it points out that Iraq’s water problems are already much aggravated and will certainly be nade much worse by Turkey plowing ahead with 22 dams to impound the Euphrates and the Tigris before they ever reach Iraq. Most are already completed. European backers are pullintg out of the Ilisu, but much of the damage is already done.

It is absolutely amazing that there is no international mechanism at all to regulate or restrict the impounding of water. China is doing the same thing to all the downstream countries of the Mekong, putting the food supply of at least 60 million people at risk, and there is nothing they can do about it in international law.

marisacat - 21 July 2009

yes it does include the issues of Turkey and Syria and the dams … I have posted articles in the past on that too…

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