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Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, Afghanistan War, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Pakistan, WAR!.

August 11, 2009 Pictures of the day: A mother and daughter sit at a bus terminal in Karachi as they wait to return to their home in the Swat Valley. About 1,000 internally displaced people, who fled a military offensive against the Taleban in the region a few months ago, are going back to their villages
[Akhtar Soomro/Reuters]

A thousand?  Not even a drop of the tens of thousands who fled the war and fighting, the aerial bombs.




1. marisacat - 13 August 2009

360,000+ foreclosure filings in July… up over 30% frm July last year.

Count the green shoots! (I think the green shoots shot us.)

2. BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009

{…shifting from the sublime to the ridiculous}..Could be worse.tho……bedding down in a spread up in the Vineyard owned by Haley Barbour’s “Environmental Guy”..

Just. hand. them. the club. Then hid behind your daughters.

The luxuriousness of the getaway poses a political challenge for Obama at a time when many Americans are struggling with economic distress. Obama said in a recent interview that he thinks about the hardships facing Americans “every single day,” but he also defended his vacation plans.

“Do I think the American people think that because of those hardships I shouldn’t spend some quality time with my daughters?” Obama said on CBS News. “I don’t think that’s what the American people think about it.”

Obama, first lady Michelle and their two daughters, Malia and Sasha, will be staying at Blue Heron Farm, a 28-acre waterfront estate owned by William Van Devender, a Mississippi timber merchant…

Well Van Devender’s MORE than that.

William J. Van Devender: Mr. Van Devender is a professional investor, real estate developer and venture capitalist, with offices in Jackson, Mississippi. Mr. Van Devender’s current focus in on projects involving wireless communications and timberlands, but, in the last five years alone, Mr. Van Devender has acquired or co-founded businesses as diverse as an integrated catfish grower and processor, a cable television provider for the entire state of Mississippi, and a developer of a cellular telephone system for South Alaska.

Oh Much more than that…he’s a BuB Bub Bubbler all right…….
His big play in Cellu Tissue Holdings?

an established leader…

Our tissue is used in a variety of personal hygienic products, including baby diapers, adult incontinence products, surgical waddings and sponges, feminine protection pads, breast nursing pads, and other medical and sanitary products.

Van Devender’s fluff – the tissue products – not Ob of Pampered August circumstance–

Van Devender’s products end up engorging landfills, Swirling around the Pacific, or washing up on beaches here in the Mid Atlantic from ocean dumping …Haley Barbour appointed him to the Mississippi Commission on Environment Quality. Obama is staying in his house.
The House and Grounds of which have just Bub BuB Bubbled up in value since the nineties…

Just. hand. them. the club…

Blue Heron Farm at Tiah’s Cove Is Sold for $20.35 Million Sum


Blue Heron Farm, the sprawling gentleman’s farm overlooking Tiah’s Cove in Chilmark and West Tisbury that was the former residence of the late M. Anthony (Tony) Fisher and his wife Anne, was sold last week to a Mississippi couple for $20.35 million.

The buyers are William and Mollie Van Devender of Jackson, Miss.

The sale marks the second highest price paid for a single residential property in the history of the Vineyard, coming in just under the $21.89 million paid for the former Peter Sharp home on Starbuck’s Neck in Edgartown in October of 2001.

The transaction was complicated and involved three properties: 29 acres in Chilmark and 3.7 acres across the pond in West Tisbury that together sold for $19.94 million; and a .3-acre beach lot at Quansoo that sold for $410,000.

A 3.9-acre lot that was also owned by the Fishers and considered part of the farm was sold separately to Davis and Merle Wolff of Manhattan last May for $1.1 million, bringing the total sale value to $21.45 million.

Tony and Anne Fisher were killed in an airplane crash in April of 2003.

William Van Devender, a timber businessman, was one of three original investors in the Vineyard Golf Club, a private luxury golf course that was built off the Edgartown-West Tisbury Road five years ago.

The late Mr. Fisher was in charge of leasing and acquisitions at Fisher Brothers, a family-owned real estate firm in Manhattan. At the time of their deaths, the Fishers also had a home in Manhattan.

Mr. Fisher and his first wife, Paula Fisher, bought the bulk of what was to become Blue Heron Farm in 1991. The Fishers paid $1.2 million for a 29-acre parcel with frontage on Cobbs Hill Road.

Mr. Fisher bought the Quansoo beach lot for $65,000 in 1989. In 1993 he bought 3.9 acres on Purdom Road in Chilmark for $219,600.

Mr. Fisher and his first wife later divorced and he took ownership of all the Blue Heron Farm property.

In 1997 Tony and Anne Fisher paid $500,000 for the 3.7-acre parcel on Pond View Farm Road in West Tisbury that adjoins the farm.

When Mr. Fisher bought the sprawling Chilmark property, which overlooks a finger of Tisbury Great Pond, the land had been in the same family for several generations. The land was so overgrown that the pond was not visible from any point on the property.

Mr. Fisher called on a set of skilled Vineyard builders, preservationists and landscapers to make over the property, which he named Blue Heron Farm in honor of a great blue heron that appeared on the edge of the pond one evening.

The workers, who labored on the property nonstop for three years, remodeled the dilapidated farmhouse, brought in and assembled a 150-year-old barn from Pennsylvania, planted an apple orchard, and built a state-of-the-art riding ring with rubberized sand.

A second renovation was underway on the farmhouse at the time of the Fishers’ death.

Good thing Van Devender got a nice deal on his mortgage tho

The Van Devenders financed the $19.94 million portion of the purchase with a $15,262,500 mortgage from the Bank of Martha’s Vineyard, a division of Sovereign Bank. They paid $410,000 in cash for the Quansoo lot. The transactions were recorded Sept. 30 at the Dukes County Registry of Deeds.

Sovereign Bank? Well, They’ve certainly been in all the right places.

[8] Sovereign Bank had been severely affected by losses related to auto loans and stock in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [9]

Freddi Mac CFO David Kellerman’s suicide aside

He (Kellermann) and a group of company attorneys tussled with its regulator in early March as the firm prepared to file its quarterly earnings report with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The group insisted that Freddie Mac inform shareholders of the cost to the company of helping carry out the Obama administration’s housing recovery plan. The regulator urged the company not to do so, according to several sources familiar with the matter. An FHFA official contested that account, saying the regulator did not oppose disclosure but how the information was portrayed in the filing.

And around we go….
Nice to know Ob gets the benefit of vaca in a house with a 15 million dollar mortgage on it from a NJ/ PA Rendell-croney Bank that collapsed (save Federal intervention) , From a Bank that Just. Fuuuuucked Spain’s Banco Santander adding to the havoc in Europe…

The bank has more than $90 billion in assets, operates 750 retail banking offices, over 2,300 ATMs (including 1,100 in CVS pharmacies throughout the Northeast) and employs approximately 12,000 people.[5] The company is based in Wyomissing, Pennsylvania, near Reading, and its principal market is in the Northeastern United States. Sovereign offers an array of financial services and products including retail banking, mortgages, corporate banking, cash management, capital markets, trust and wealth management, and insurance.

The bank has naming rights to the Sovereign Bank Arena in Trenton, New Jersey, the Sovereign Center and Sovereign Performing Arts Center in Reading, Pennsylvania, and Sovereign Bank Stadium in York, Pennsylvania.

On June 1 2006, Sovereign Bank purchased Independence Community Bank Corp. of Brooklyn, New York, for US$3.6 billion in cash. Sovereign completed the transition process of Independence and S.I. Bank & Trust customers on September 9 2006. Sovereign financed this merger by selling a 20% stake in the bank to Spain’s Banco Santander Central Hispano.[6]

In June 2006, Banco Santander purchased almost 20% of Sovereign Bank for US$2.4 billion. As Banco Santander owned 25% of Sovereign, it had the right to buy the bank for $40 per share for one year beginning in the middle of 2008.[7]

On October 13, 2008, Banco Santander agreed to purchase the remainder of Sovereign for US$1.9 billion (1.4 billion euros).[8] Sovereign Bank had been severely affected by losses related to auto loans and stock in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [9]

On January 30, 2009, Banco Santander completed its acquisition of Sovereign Bank, for about $2.51 per share.[10]

The Vinyard house mortgaged From a bank that pinches ATM fees from customers in every CVS Pharmacy throughout the Northeast: “Would you like cash back with that?” {blink blink smile} … From a Bank getting it’s money from the Fed Window to buy up Freddie and Fanny Bullshit, sell IT off, but with money enough to loan Mr Van Devender 15 million and service the good summer villagers up in the Vineyard and Nantucket…

3. BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009

Ob vaca Spam/mod snag…

marisacat - 13 August 2009

got ’em! 🙂

I looked up the Vineyard property too, but not as thoroughly

BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009
BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009

“Sovereign Bank shares my continuing goal to create new jobs and opportunities for Pennsylvanians, which makes for an ideal partnership” said Governor Rendell.“This commitment to offer up to $250 million in loans at below market interest rates will further strengthen my economic stimulus plan by boosting job creation and retention in the Commonwealth.

BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009

Poll: Pennsylvania voters unhappy with Gov. Ed Rendell, lawmakers
by The Associated Press
Tuesday July 21, 2009, 11:19 AM

The poll found the Democratic governor’s rating had plummeted to 39 percent. That’s the lowest since he took office in 2003.

According to the poll, 90 percent of Pennsylvania voters think the inability of the governor and state Legislature to pass a budget by the June 30 deadline is a “very serious” or “somewhat serious” problem. Rendell is most to blame for the budget stalemate, 30 percent of voters say, while 17 percent blame the Republicans in the Legislature; 11 percent blame the Democrats; and 28 percent blame everyone equally.

And of course, Not to be missed,

The cyclical seaside waves…
following the splash spouting whales…

marisacat - 13 August 2009

and 28 percent blame everyone equally.

… sounds low to me………….. I blame everybody. Anyone.

4. BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009

I’m all shnookie deal’d out.

5. marisacat - 13 August 2009

This is excerpted in Mike Allen’s column for Politico, linking to a fee based site… but …enough is here. I had not heard any of this. Not that it matters.

Also, I still see chat around at all the Demdumbblahgs that the conservatives are dead or dying. but it has no energy.. just dead knee jerk when they write it.

STATES PREPARING TO FIGHT REFORM MANDATES, reports Inside Health Policy’s Julian Pecquet:

“Across the country, states with a libertarian bent — some of which had been warming up to the more socially permissive Democratic Party in recent years — are considering constitutional changes that would block key elements of the House and Senate health reform proposals, such as requirements that people have insurance and that businesses cover their employees or pay a tax. State efforts originally aimed at prohibiting local efforts to introduce single-payer systems [no need, it died before it was born, Obama killed it] have taken on anti-federal overtones now that the national debate over health reform is in full swing, with many aspects in the main House and Senate bills anathema to advocates of state sovereignty.

“Arizona has to date gone the furthest, with state lawmakers on June 22 approving along party lines a bill to refer to the November 2010 ballot a proposed constitutional amendment that protects individuals, employers and health care providers from having to participate in any health care system. It also guarantees that individuals and businesses can offer — and providers can accept — direct payment for health care services without facing penalties or fines, language aimed at heading off a single-payer system.

“Six more states have introduced legislation modeled after the Arizona effort, and several others are considering similar measures. If the constitutional amendment passes in any state, it is seen as likely to spark a historic legal showdown over states’ rights — with possible ramifications for the whole health care system. Opting out could also lead states to lose federal assistance such as subsidies for people to buy insurance in a national exchange.” $5 to read.

So sorry the Clintons ever showed up, so sorry Ob was propelled to the WH.

Fuck them all.

Oh and the Right Wingers are not and never were dead. Snooze Nooz.

6. catnip - 13 August 2009


Statement from the American College of Surgeons Regarding
Recent Comments from President Obama

CHICAGO—The American College of Surgeons is deeply disturbed over the uninformed public comments President Obama continues to make about the high-quality care provided by surgeons in the United States. When the President makes statements that are incorrect or not based in fact, we think he does a disservice to the American people at a time when they want clear, understandable facts about health care reform. We want to set the record straight.

Yesterday during a town hall meeting, President Obama got his facts completely wrong. He stated that a surgeon gets paid $50,000 for a leg amputation when, in fact, Medicare pays a surgeon between $740 and $1,140 for a leg amputation. This payment also includes the evaluation of the patient on the day of the operation plus patient follow-up care that is provided for 90 days after the operation. Private insurers pay some variation of the Medicare reimbursement for this service.

Three weeks ago, the President suggested that a surgeon’s decision to remove a child’s tonsils is based on the desire to make a lot of money. That remark was ill-informed and dangerous, and we were dismayed by this characterization of the work surgeons do. Surgeons make decisions about recommending operations based on what’s right for the patient.

We agree with the President that the best thing for patients with diabetes is to manage the disease proactively to avoid the bad consequences that can occur, including blindness, stroke, and amputation. But as is the case for a person who has been treated for cancer and still needs to have a tumor removed, or a person who is in a terrible car crash and needs access to a trauma surgeon, there are times when even a perfectly managed diabetic patient needs a surgeon. The President’s remarks are truly alarming and run the risk of damaging the all-important trust between surgeons and their patients.

We assume that the President made these mistakes unintentionally, but we would urge him to have his facts correct before making another inflammatory and incorrect statement about surgeons and surgical care.

Cuts like a knife.

marisacat - 13 August 2009

Maybe a second dog is called for….

catnip - 13 August 2009

He’s being such a bonehead. The wingnuts are already crazed because of the misinformation that they’ve created on their own and there he is making false statements left and right – just giving them more ammo.

The Dems who couldn’t shoot straight…

marisacat - 13 August 2009

I read thru the Gibbs briefing yesterday and could not tell the reporter… but the whole “death panel” thing is murky (which is not to say I buy the Winger version)… because no way to download the damned senate bill that the Finance Committe is workign on and over and over it seems that will be the one that forms the basis of the final.

Hospice (paid for by Medicare monies) had to change their rules several years ago.. forget why if it was challenged in court or what, but THEIR rules were positively draconian… Once you signed iwht Hospice you were agreeing not to call 911… I forget all the rules… but if it had nto been at the very end for my mother (last month), I had Hospice nursing care as well as private care I paid for at home, I never could have signed it.

While the wingers have been dramatic, frankly I would nto doubt there is reason to worry.

BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009

LOL. At least Some “truth”, however perverse it may be…

He stated that a surgeon gets paid $50,000 for a leg amputation when, in fact, Medicare pays a surgeon between $740 and $1,140 for a leg amputation.

Which has WHAT PRAY FUCKING TELL with the looting via the PRIVATE INSURANCE racket…Much higher allowances when you can drag an orthopod of the back 9, the buy offs with incentives to avoid surgery picking up the greens fees. (That is if the drug reps or surgical suppliers didn’t)

If anything the ACS is MAKING the case that Medicare can be run cost effectively with plenty of cushion for the poor poor practitioners. Really, we are just run over by Greed. . . Leg Amputations, diabetic foots etc? One hour scrub time for the Surgeon..$1000 bucks an hour. Really leaves you cryin doesn’t it? Boo Fuckin Hoo. Oh and then there’s “The Hospital” charges —which also pad the M.D wallet as medical officer compensation or revenue sharing , as most groups have been bought in as affiliated practices…

What Sheisse. Exquisite Sheisse.

marisacat - 13 August 2009

Which has WHAT PRAY FUCKING TELL with the looting via the PRIVATE INSURANCE racket…

He’s the best friend the insurance cos have ever had. Bar none. Or, he and congress congealed are the best bud…

I heard months ago (via left wing consumer activist) that the ONLY thing being discussed, really discussed, in DC was the mandatory aspect. Nothing else. The rest, such as it may be, is tag on. Dressing.

And if you notice what little ther may be might come into focus end of this admin… and stretches out for years and years.

In the 60s, 40 million went on Medicare in 11 months. Nothing like that will ever happen again.

7. catnip - 13 August 2009
marisacat - 13 August 2009

Such dogs…

[I]t says the White House agreed to oppose any congressional efforts to use the government’s leverage to bargain for lower drug prices or import drugs from Canada — and also agreed not to pursue Medicare rebates or shift some drugs from Medicare Part B to Medicare Part D, which would cost Big Pharma billions in reduced reimbursements. …

Critics on Capitol Hill and online responded with outrage at the reports that Obama had gone behind their backs and sold the reform movement short. Furthermore, the deal seemed to be a betrayal of several promises made by then-Sen. Obama during the presidential campaign, among them that he would use the power of government to drive down the costs of drugs to Medicare and that negotiations would be conducted in the open. …

8. catnip - 13 August 2009
9. ms_xeno - 13 August 2009

I have two days of wage work scheduled for next week. That’ll put me a grand total of thirty bucks beyond what Unemployment would have paid.

I can’t believe that I ever doubted Hopeman’s sincerity. I really can’t.

In other news, the Obama starfucking continues locally, with various rags like the Mercury whining about how the evil Righties are ruinating our chance for the bestest reformiest reform– EVER!!

Christ. It’s so sad when it happens to people you used to sort of respect, lemme’ tell ya’…

catnip - 13 August 2009

I’d hire you…if I had money…and something for you to do…

ms_xeno - 13 August 2009

Maybe you’d just like to watch the cats while I’m in the belly of the beast assembling brochures for big $$$.

catnip - 13 August 2009

Sure. I could take them to the zoo…or something. Is it still raining? 😀

ms_xeno - 13 August 2009

Yeah, but not to worry. Our battle-stroller has a hood. Oh, and two gun turrets. With all these homeless panhandlers about nowadays, it seemed like a good idea.

marisacat - 13 August 2009

oh that made me laugh… esp as I am in the middle of Children of Men (took a break from it… for an hour or so… btw, great cats and dogs in that movie)

ms_xeno - 13 August 2009

Haven’t seen that one yet. We have King Corn ready to go tonight, though. Appropriate. 😀

marisacat - 13 August 2009

dystopia… from a book by PD James.. All countries are in complete turmoil… the UK sort of stands. part of the problem is all fertility of humans seems over. No births in 18 years.. Classic story but iwth some new twists. And of course some of the most brutal aspects of the dystopia are just fleshing out what we already see. Street bombings, open cages n the streets with rounded up refugees and illegal immigrants and so on…

Does have a few fabulous cats (one big fat ginger cat in particular) and some lovely dogs tho…

catnip - 13 August 2009

Woohoo! I’ll bring my USA vs Commie Soldiers and we’ll practice stategery before we go out.

10. marisacat - 13 August 2009


Senate Finance Committee drops end-of-life care language in health care bill because of furor

They drop the version no one can down load.

😆 ………………. 😯 😈 and whatever other little face there is………………. 🙄

catnip - 13 August 2009

Cave #113 is it now?

The furor…the furor…

11. ms_xeno - 13 August 2009

It just gets better and better:

Narcs For Obamacare!!

[munches popcorn]

12. marisacat - 13 August 2009

Here is today’s band-aid.

Obama grants interview to 6th grader

Damon Weaver, who tried for months to snag an interview with POTUS, got some time with Obama Thursday.

13. marisacat - 13 August 2009

Michael Wolff hauls off on Frank Rich. Yum

[A]nyway, Frank’s column in the Sunday Times was about how much he, and all Americans, in his estimation, resent that in so many aspects of modern life the fix is in.

“What disturbs Americans of all ideological persuasions is the fear that almost everything, not just government, is fixed or manipulated by some powerful hidden hand, from commercial transactions as trivial as the sales of prime concert tickets to cultural forces as pervasive as the news media,” said Rich, in his best pious voice.

Rich, in his column, expresses concern that President Obama is becoming part of this great corporate media-Goldman Sachs fix—which might somehow influence his health care plan, which Rich seems sour that he can’t influence.

It’s possible that Rich no longer regards the New York Times as part of the great corporate media-Goldman Sachs fix, a position it has surely held for the last many generations. The Times’ recent and precipitous fall from establishment grace and into financial disarray might be fueling Rich’s resentment.

Still, have I mentioned how last year Frank got an extra job at HBO as a “creative consultant”—a job in which he does…well, that’s far from clear. (Sort of a no-show patronage job in the media business.)

14. catnip - 13 August 2009

Another one on the ledge: F— You, Democrats by Angry Mouse

I’ve had it. I’m done. I have reached my limit on capitulation, corporatism, cronyism, and stupid.

And it’s blah blah blah fuck you but the last line is just as spineless as the bloody party.

Get it right, Democrats, and get it done. Or I’m done with you.

Shorter Angry Mouse: I’m done but I’m not done so you be done or I’m done (maybe).

catnip - 13 August 2009

Oh and she couldn’t help but kicking Cindy Sheehan while she was at it:

Is the Democratic Party better than the Republican Party? Yeah. The Democratic Party does not embrace its most violent, paranoid, pathologically dishonest “leaders” (a.k.a., bloggers and talk show hosts). Cindy Sheehan did not become the face of the Democratic Party back during the dark days of the Bush years.

ms_x…you were wondering who’d replace Evil Ralph as the Enemy of the Dem People. There’s your answer. They’ll rag on her for decades.

marisacat - 13 August 2009

…its most violent, paranoid, pathologically dishonest “leaders” (a.k.a., bloggers and talk show hosts).

that is a very dysfunctional assessment from Miss Angry Mouse. OR whoever that is……………..

ms_xeno - 13 August 2009

It’s rather quaint that she seems to think this would faze Sheehan. Unless I’ve missed some recent turnaround from one or both of them, Nader spent more time in the past trying to gently lead his detractors back to reason than Sheehan did– comparably speaking.

catnip - 13 August 2009

That’s just it. Cindy gave them a big FUCK YOU and they’re pissed.

ms_xeno - 14 August 2009

Yeah, that Sheehan bitch. Carrying on like EVIL doesn’t start and end with the Bush clan. Who does she think she is?! Why, she’s just like Limbaugh! Yeah, that’s the ticket!


Yep. Everyone who fails to disappear up Hopeman’s ass is a Right-winger. Just like everyone who failed to disappear up Bush’s ass was a terrorist.

Fuck the Kozzies.

catnip - 13 August 2009

I agree with Rahm Emanuel (1+ / 0-)

Recommended by:

He’s right. The DKos community deserves nothing but contempt. There are exceptions but by and large you have acted like spoiled two year old brats.

It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness.

by MnplsLiberal on Thu Aug 13, 2009 at 04:49:24 PM MDT

15. BooHooHooMan - 13 August 2009

Cillizza:roll: ….picked off a link at RCP

A Turning Point for Specter?
Specter’s Performance May Be Factor, For Good or Ill, in His
By Chris Cillizza

Thanks for the Bold assertion,there, Chris.
Anyways…It means Somethin! What ? We Don’t Know!!

Close observers of Pennsylvania politics agreed that the showdown Tuesday in Lebanon marked a possible turning point in what has been a rocky period for Specter, who switched from the Republican Party to the Democrats this spring in advance of his bid for a sixth term in 2010.

But whether the town hall was a positive development for Specter or a sign of the electoral trouble he faces both in a primary against Rep. Joe Sestak (D) and in a potential general election fight against former congressman Pat Toomey (R) is a matter of significant debate.

Saul Shorr, a Philadelphia-based Democratic media consultant, said the town hall confrontation worked to Specter’s advantage, affording him the opportunity to defend the president’s plan in a high-profile public setting. “The town halls are the best thing that has happened to him,” Shorr said. “It makes him a Democrat.”

Sure Saul. Anything that makes your candidate look weak and flatfooted is a plus. The cops manhandling a retiree is always a plus
Hmmm. What happened to the caravan of “Obama” people who were supposed to have Arlen’s back?. Seems like some once-dependable folk are getting the shits of it.

marisacat - 13 August 2009

you know how it is with most Democrats. Get a Dem in they roll over go to sleep. For a few years.

And I say, wehre are the legions of ObRamaDotBots who were going to save America from the RW?

I say they are hiding under the carpet in the Oval, with Bush’s WMD in Iraq. Same sort of thing. VAPOR and LIES.

16. marisacat - 13 August 2009



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