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Scream Queens on the Run! 20 August 2009

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems.


😆  ALWAYS surprised at the fix they are in, in long running serial fashion.   Of whom does that remind?


“We are in the most difficult period of messaging,” Lake [Celinda Lake, D pollster] said. “We don’t have a plan we are pointing to with specifics that would garner support.”

Democrats were also still looking for a villain. With all of the major industry players still talking with the White House, it was difficult to find one, Democratic strategists said.

Double whoops.

By late July, Obama found one – the insurance industry – as he made another shift. This time, he emphasized reforms to the insurance market, which Axelrod urged senators to describe as “consumer protections.”

Sounds like he had to hunt really hard to find that villain. Out on the frozen tundra with a flashlight night after night…

Democrats had long talked about the need to focus not on expanding coverage on the 47 million uninsured, but rather the insured, who make 85 percent of voters in an election year, Lake said.

Strategists were relieved to hear Obama start talking about “health insurance reform,” rather than “health care reform.” They liked the fresh attention to promising a more stable and secure existence for middle class voters who are worried about losing their coverage or being unable to afford it.

Lawmakers had hoped to hammer home this message during the August recess, but lost ground amid the spate of angry town halls and an avalanche of claims – which have been discredited – that Obama wants to cover illegal immigrants, establish “death panels,” and guarantee federal funding for abortions.

“In recent days, we have spent additional time correcting the absolute falsehoods about reform, which is a situation aided and abetted by many in the media,” a White House official said.

And this week, Obama returned to making a moral argument to provide insurance for all Americans during a call with faith leaders, a message Democratic strategists said they thought had been dismissed as a smart messaging strategy.

“Dismissed”, but apparently not escorted out of the planning sessions (uh, were there any? real ones?). I don’t think accusations of  “bearing false witness” and thus labeling your opponents as sinners will work.

“It is not perfectly clear there is one frame targeted at the insured middle class,” Kim said. “If the message architecture were rock solid then the attack from the right wouldn’t have as much resonance.”

Well… except it did work.  Resonated, one might say…

Democrats acknowledge they were lulled into complacency.

Here it comes, confession time.

One party official cited a largely under-the-radar dust up in February when Betsy McCaughey, the former New York lieutenant governor who played an influential role in torpedoing the Clinton reform effort, wrote an op-ed for Bloomberg News in February that Obama planned to ration health care. She cited a provision in the stimulus bill to spend $1 billion on comparative effectiveness research.

No reason for it to be under their radar… I posted it here, I was not the only one.  I mentioned she was performing as an operative, even as some things she said were accurate.   My guess, they were busy being fat happy cats with salmon drenched saliva trickling down their chins..  (here kitty kitty… )

Reform advocates thought they won the fight when the money stayed in the stimulus bill, and the issue received only scant attention in the mainstream media.

Because Ob and his Oblettes live and die by the media.  They sprang forth from the media, rather like Zeus with Athena, born from his head so she is bound closer to him..

Then, in May, Republican strategist Frank Luntz acknowledged in a messaging memo to his party that they shouldn’t argue against the need for reform. If even Luntz drew this conclusion from polling, then Democrats thought they were in good shape.

Poor Democrats.. always reactive. And now they really are, with the Daddy-less Orphan Ob in the Oval. The R constantly do this to them, lay down a trail of breadcrumbs … let the Dems “find” the breadcrumbs (and then they feel really smart!) and start to follow the crumbs.  They feel so smart following the breadcrumbs that they get very happy!  They start counting chickens… even as there are no chickens in sight.

Can this get more pathetic?

Yes, when they do it over and over.

“We weren’t prepared for the level of passion coming from the other side because all signs indicated a greater national consensus on reform,” Kim said. “Luntz said don’t deny the need for health care reform. That lulled us into a sense of complacency – ‘Well, oh, the Republicans can’t say no, the impetus is too strong.’ The forces of ‘no’ were stronger than we thought.”

Mother of God… and I don’t mean poor dead S Ann Dunham. If it were up to me, I’d turn them over to Norquist and start filling the tub myself with water (aiding and abetting before the fact!).

Drown them, one and all.



1. catnip - 20 August 2009
2. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 August 2009

Rolling Stone teaser for the Taibbi healthcare piece that hits newstands Friday.

America’s disastrous health care system is responsible for incalculable amounts of illness, death, lost productivity and federal deficit — not to mention anxiety, anger and disgrace. And it’s not going to get fixed, writes Matt Taibbi in the new issue of Rolling Stone, because it’s encased in another failed system: the U.S. government. Rather than attempt to remedy the problem this summer, our government sat down and demonstrated its dizzying ineptitude. “We might look back on this summer someday and think of it as the moment when our government lost us for good,” writes Taibbi. “It was that bad.”

Taibbi breaks down the five steps Congress took to be sure no bill would pass — aiming low, gutting the public option, packing it with loopholes, providing no leadership and blowing the math — in his story, which is available on stands now. In a series of video interviews for RollingStone.com, Taibbi explores one of our system’s most severe flaws, explains how the government wedged itself into an awkwardly damning position, and looks at how the proposed bill would change the ordinary American’s life.

marisacat - 20 August 2009

aiming low

HA! Doing the limbo dance in the drains that run off the gutters.

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 August 2009

Yes, yes … we get it, conservatives are heartless assholes. So what … how about expending some energy putting pressure on the worthless donks, media matters?

4. catnip - 20 August 2009

ABC’s Charles Gibson to Cindy Sheehan: Thanks for your sacrifice. Now get lost.

This week a number of observers have wondered whether the press will cover Sheehan now that she is protesting a war run by Barack Obama as opposed to George W. Bush. Gibson’s interview strongly suggests it won’t happen.

marisacat - 20 August 2009

I found tht Byron York covered it… thin at the Washington Examiner where he works.. but little else, other than a blank line or two. He posted a back and forth he had with her by email.

5. lucid - 20 August 2009

Though to be fair all of the ‘passion’ comes from bussed in groups organized by the likes of Dick Armey… If the Dems let that persuade them [which they will]… well, they’ll just show themselves to be the spineless sonsofbitches they’ve always been.

rinse… repeat…

marisacat - 20 August 2009

yes but the Democrats don’t admit to any rational or justified issues with either their smorgasbord of messes of bills… whcih as I understand it only 3 are downloadable, Working papers from the Senate Finance Cte are beyond anyone’s reach.. and ONLY NOW that the game lies in tatters, do they admit to “mistakes”.

I am tired of government by Democratic Jesus… and its only been 8 months. Esp as Jesus is just so damned common.

They have plastered, willy nilly with a big paint gun, anyone who disagrees with the WH or congress on this, and speaks up, racist.

So weak.

lucid - 20 August 2009

Many are though. While the left is thoroughly and completely ignored, the crazy right has been empowered again, ala Tiller. This is not going to end well.

lucid - 20 August 2009

And I don’t mean pot-shots at Obama, but I do seriously think there will be an assassination attempt this year on a Dem. Whatever that means. The right is ready to go Blackwater. The Dems, eh, we’ll try to keep our jobs.

marisacat - 20 August 2009

Entirely possible. As I always say, someone shot at Ford, someone shot Reagan… And then the Dems and the Obama-ites will retreat, as they have done NOW, to simple victimhood. Prayer circles will go round the clock, filmed by cable news, round the clock. THEN if anyone speaks against Obama, the hordes will rend their clothing and wail to the heavens.

Mommy! he S*OT me and I was just standing here! I did nothing!

America is unworkable.

lucid - 20 August 2009

Lighting candles always makes the best public policy. I mean really, you didn’t know that? 😉

6. lucid - 20 August 2009

And I’m wondering, is this why I’m watching player interviews from training camp for the upcoming ND football year? Morons, with nothing in their heads, just because – hey, it’s a distraction… and it’s not like I can get into a real online discussion with anyone on an ND fan site, because they are all unreconstructed assholes that think having Obama give the graduation address shamed the school, because he wants to kill little babies…. good lord – fuck me wildly with a chainsaw.

Why the fuck do I still live here?

marisacat - 20 August 2009

to be frank they strike me as a flip side of Obama. Smoother, wilier (he is)… but enmeshed in religion and lies.

It gets old, on all sides.

Sure much of the organised opposition to Obama is dishonest. So is he.

lucid - 20 August 2009

It would surprise you, the shit that goes on in ND sports message boards… horrid, horrid. I read them because I grew up with ND sports and I can’t help but root for them… almost hardwired. And I want to know what’s going on in recruiting, etc. But the people are awful – I had a meltdown on one board when everyone started blaming the financial meltdown on poor minorities who ‘couldn’t pay their mortgages because Barney Frank passed a law to allow them to get mortgages in the first place’. Not that I have any respect for Barney Frank, but really, this is the type of shit ‘Americans’ believe – and slide into sports discussions on boards they’re explicitly restricted from making such comments.

A classic example of the duplicity is recent. The basketball coach at Louisville, Rick Patino, was involved in a scandal in which he’d paid $3,000 for ‘medical insurance’ for a woman that he’d recently had an affair with and claimed she was pregnant. There has still been no confirmation of the pregnancy. I certainly don’t defend Patino for having an affair, but at least he ponied up traceable money to cover the lover for medical insurance on the assumption she was pregnant, with no questions asked.

On an ND fansite, this was translated into, ‘Rick Patino paid $3,000 for an abortion’. Lot’s of wailing followed in the thread, until someone brought up the fact that 1. it wasn’t clear this money was for an abortion, and 2. wtf does this have to do with basketball? This post was deleted. Meanwhile, all the posts bemoaning abortion remained. I chimed in, noting that the only post with any sanity in the thread had been deleted. I actually got some positive response. 2 hours later, that post was deleted. The one post of mine that remains on the thread? An obscurantist reference to ‘Fast Times at Ridgemont High’. I said, ‘At least he didn’t pull a Mike Damone’… The only response to it, didn’t even understand the joke. They were to dumb to realize I was making a joke about an asshole who wouldn’t pony up for an abortion.

7. lucid - 20 August 2009

This year I really need to focus on the Hegel. Coach says that if I can read the Hegel, I can read any formation that comes at me – because it’s like an encyclopedia of moves. If I can put my head around that I’ll be seeing some time on the field. If I can react to the deceitful movement of dialectical materialism, I’ll have the advantage on the field – all moves come from that… The only important thing is to have advantage on the field.

marisacat - 20 August 2009

“coach” …???

is this Hegelian sports? Or something else?

lucid - 20 August 2009

sorry spoof of what those kids really should be doing in college…

marisacat - 20 August 2009

oh I get it now….. 😉

8. catnip - 20 August 2009
9. marisacat - 20 August 2009

Oh save me. Charlie Rose ahs Ross Douthat, Doris Kearns Goodwin and … Arianna HuffMuff.

[bangs head against brick wall]

marisacat - 20 August 2009

Doris says “Obama is in command”

Arianna says, “Obama is a natural born teacher” thos she caveats for a “stronger stand”

Ross… “he gets A for style”. He “embodies the office very smoothly”

Send lilies.

marisacat - 20 August 2009

Arianna got around to all the core criticisms, I’ll give her that.

10. marisacat - 20 August 2009

Wee wee’d up? Okaaay.

Obama recalled how the storyline turned against his presidential campaign when Republicans picked Sarah Palin to be the party’s vice presidential candidate.

“The media was obsessed with it and cable was 24 hours a day, ‘Obama’s lost his mojo.’ You remember all that?” he asked supporters to laughter. “There’s something about August going into September where everybody in Washington gets all wee-wee’ed up. I don’t know what it is.”

is he trying to say they are all holding their dicks?

lucid - 20 August 2009

He’s 11. Just remember that. He’s only 11.

11. lucid - 20 August 2009

What did you think of Arianna in the gov race? I don’t think I’ve ever asked you that. While she had nothing on Camejo in the debates, I liked the way she took on the sperminator.

marisacat - 20 August 2009

I did too.. I cringed when she entered, but I think she managed to gt exposure for herself along with broadening the debate… and yes going at Arnold.

I t hought it worked out well…

12. lucid - 20 August 2009

I watched all of the debates – was fascinated. I just wish the real left could get that attack dog in them. She’s always been calculated to where she can make money, Huff/post included. Why can’t a Camejo have that edge?

marisacat - 21 August 2009

I watched all the debates too… I enjoyed them a lot.

Didn’t Camejo make a smallish personal fortune in industry? I forget now how long he had been ill with cancer, I vaguely remember it was two bouts.

If she ever declared herself a “Green” the Dems would make sure she was dead in the water. By noon.

lucid - 21 August 2009

I’m not unconvinced by her turn against the corporatism that she once supported during her ex-husband’s political career, but I am convinced that she just wants to make money as a media starlett and found her niche just to the left of the Dems.

marisacat - 21 August 2009

I’m not unconvinced by her turn against the corporatism

yeah I agree… you have to be pretty far gone to fuck Gingrich. Just my opinion. I don’t think you come back to some heavenly spot.

Now she jsut hangs with the Google boys, on their yacht. Traded scenery.

Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

even if they did, no one would cover it or pay any attention.

13. lucid - 20 August 2009

… well, maybe because he wanted good government and not money…

14. marisacat - 21 August 2009

Laughed my way thru this

I can think of five very good reasons why the White House’s lack of foresight on the potential for the intraparty squabble is absolutely inexcusable:

(1) For the months between November and January, we were treated to endless comparisons of Obama to the great presidents of the days of yore. One of them was Franklin Roosevelt. Question: who stopped the New Deal dead in its tracks after 1938? It wasn’t the Republicans alone. It was Southern Democrats working in alliance with the Republicans. Who are the marginal members standing between Obama and a health care bill…Southern Democrats! Generally speaking, the internal cleavage within the Democratic Party (North v. South; left v. right) is really one of the most significant features of the political landscape since at least the Great Depression. After eighty some years and dozens of failed attempts at liberal reforms, there is no excuse for a President not to anticipate it rearing its head again. snip

One of his points is how many fucking Blooo Dogs Rahm (with Bill C, it has to be said, they worked together on several of the recruitments) put in office in 2006 (and 08 to I imagine tho I paid less attention).

15. marisacat - 21 August 2009

hmm what color will the tweeting be in I wonder.

Informal counts from campaign teams lead Afghan President Hamid Karzai and challenger Abdullah Abdullah to both declare wins

16. marisacat - 21 August 2009

Astroturf v Astroturf. Pretty funny,, Page 1 is conservative, dominated by Freedomworks… and Page 2 is pro WH dominated by………. SEIU and PhRMA.

I call it a draw and if they wanna shoot to kill in a duel, fine with me.

17. marisacat - 21 August 2009

So i am reading along over at TalkLeft… and Jeralyn does not permit “Jackass”.

please watch your language (none / 0) (#39)

by Jeralyn on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 01:21:22 PM EST

jacka*ss is not allowed.

[ Parent ]

I thought j****** (none / 0) (#40)

by Bemused on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 01:35:16 PM EST

was pretty mild considering, but is horse’s behind OK?

[ Parent ]

Pretty amusing, when you realise it is a Demlib supposedly leftischer blog.

Good lord.

catnip - 21 August 2009

How about “motherfucker”? Is that allowed? 😀

Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

poor dear has the vapors … why, she nearly fell out of her chair and mussed up her crinoline frock. Her tightly wound bun nearly burst free and sent two or three stray grey hairs loose to wave in the wind.

marisacat - 21 August 2009

well I know she bans the “7 words”, the Carlin list… her stated reason is that she wants her blog to get thru the filters at law firms. Could be.

But “jackass”?

A perfectly legitimate word, with several uses.

18. marisacat - 21 August 2009

On and on it goes… wehre the merry go round stops…


[O]rganizations such as Doctors Without Borders and Oxfam International — an anti-poverty group — said they had hoped President Obama would join them in the fight to make generic drugs available to combat disease in impoverished countries.

But “it appears that Obama appointees are continuing to work from the playbook of the last administration,” said Oxfam policy advisor Rohit Malpani. The British-based group had opposed President George W. Bush’s trade policies as being detrimental to public health.

Obama officials have rejected the criticism, saying that the president remained committed to the international health goals he embraced during the campaign and already had initiated trade policy changes.

And industry leaders pointed out that they had supported many programs to provide lower-cost drugs and contributed billions of dollars in medicines to poor countries. But, they said, aggressive enforcement of copyright rules was necessary to ensure the quality and safety of drugs, as well as to provide incentives for developing new medicines.

19. catnip - 21 August 2009

So, I’m checking out this video about how to give myself B12 injections on what looks like a serious site with medical info and I notice another video: “Make people naked with Photoshop”.

Hmmm…makes you wonder what your so-called medical professionals are really learning in school!

(And, no, I didn’t watch that one. I don’t have Photoshop. 😀 )

marisacat - 21 August 2009

I always opted for the thigh.

20. catnip - 21 August 2009


This is a family site (5+ / 0-)

and Obama is part of that family. What do you do when a family member acts out? You check him/her in a safe place similar to an intervention. DK is the safe place, Red State is not. Choose who you want to be the enabler or the person that helps to move the process forward.

What have you done today that makes you feel proud progresspolitics.com

by jai2 on Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 10:44:31 AM MDT

Excuse me but dkos is a very public site (2+ / 0-)

I never criticize my friends or family in public. I much rather use positive reinforcement for the actions I like

Giving to act blue, calling individual congress critters, attending events with Move on and OFA. I have done all of these.

I do not help the wing nuts by agreeing with them that Obama is dishonest or per Greenwald that he is a corporate tool, Krugman never did have a good word to say about Obama.

Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. Blaise Pascal

by Kitty on Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 11:18:24 AM MDT

Get thee to the nuttery.

21. marisacat - 21 August 2009

Just think of “Public Option” as “bouncing ball”.. UP she goes. DOWN she goes. Oh she ran into the street and was hit by a semi!! Whoops!

Politico http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26335.html

A day after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that health reform won’t get through the House without a public option, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said Friday that the public option may have to go in order to get a bill passed.

“I’m for a public option but I’m also for passing a bill,” Hoyer told reporters on a conference call. “We believe the public option is a necessary, useful and very important aspect of this, but we’ll have to see because there are many other important aspects of the bill as well.”

In San Francisco on Thursday, Pelosi said: “There’s no way I can pass a bill in the House of Representatives without a public option.” snip

Mother Speaker, check the children…

Pretty damned funny… but the conservative pundits had too much fun today with “wee wee’d” to bother with this.

22. marisacat - 21 August 2009

GOOD LUCK! And Good Night.

23. marisacat - 21 August 2009

Carry on…

[T]he Senate Finance Committee will not include a public option in its health care bill, one of the key Republican negotiators said on Friday — to which the White House responded, with a shrug: “That’s democracy.”

Sen. Olympia Snowe, (R-Maine), told MSNBC that the proposal to offer consumers a government-run alternative to private insurance providers would not be endorsed by the “Gang of Six”. [. . .]

“We have not had the public option on the table,” Snowe said. “It’s been co-ops and addressing affordability and availability of plans through the exchange and that’s — those are the challenges we’re wrestling with — to ensure that there are affordable, basic plans to offer Americans.”

The remarks would seem like a blow to President Obama’s avowed preference for a public option as a means for expanding coverage and lowering costs in the health care system. But the administration has also spent the past few weeks sending profoundly mixed signals on its devotion to such a provision. And when pressed for a reaction to Snowe’s declaration, Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton provided a non-nonplussed response. snipwhippy

Apparently the hamster over at FDL has a post about how the WH used “public option”. Prolly some version of the truth:

Comment from the Plum Line.. (I just cannot face FDL, taking it on faith)

# sbj | August 21st, 2009 at 04:18 pm

@LindaS: “I’m thinking it was never really on the table to begin with and we were all played for a bunch of suckers.”

Then you’ll LOVE this post by Hamsher:


“this weekend’s comments by White House officials simply acknowledged the long-obvious reality that the idea of a government-run insurance plan was partly a bargaining chip.”

… A commitment that the bill will be “bipartisan” (since the GOP would never agree to one) was a signal that there would be no public plan.

The White House never cared about getting Republican votes — it cared about keeping the Republicans from peeling off the dollars of stakeholders like PhRMA. Giving in to “Republican” demands was cover for writing ****** things into the bill that would keep the stakeholders happy. They didn’t need Republican votes, they never did, and they never truly cared. As long as the money stayed out of their campaign coffers, it was all good.”

Mush little doggies.

24. catnip - 21 August 2009

And now, for a complete diversion.

Somehow, I think that has something to do with Obama’s so-called health reform plan.

25. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009
marisacat - 21 August 2009

wow.. but in retrospect, not surprising. I assume it goes up. To say nothing of foreclosure suicides.

The deep scars this is leaving are haunting.

Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

and we’re not hearing the half of it.

26. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

Idaho GOP leader who helped spur coup arrested

BOISE, Idaho — An Idaho Republican Party leader who helped oust the state GOP chairman in 2008 faces charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after an altercation escalated while he photographed a home with a delinquent mortgage.

Challis McAffee, 33, the GOP chairman from the Boise suburb of Garden City and one of 231 voting members of the Idaho Republican Central Committee, was arrested after being accused of pointing a gun at the homeowner. He was released from Ada County jail on Thursday after family members and friends posted a portion of the $50,000 bond.

McAffee works for a contractor hired by Wells Fargo & Co. to document the condition of homes where mortgages are past due or in foreclosure. A Wells Fargo spokesman condemned McAffee’s behavior, calling it “horrific and absolutely inexcusable.”

McAffee, a backer of libertarian-leaning former GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul and an activist in this year’s anti-big-government “Tea Party” protests, helped organize Paul backers who aligned at last June’s Idaho State Republican Convention in Sandpoint with other foes of then-state GOP Chairman Kirk Sullivan. Sullivan was voted from office in favor of Norm Semanko.

According to police in the Boise suburb of Meridian, resident Robert Lutes called officers just before 5:30 p.m. Tuesday to report McAffee had pointed a .357 Magnum handgun at him during a verbal confrontation. McAffee acknowledged he pointed the gun at Lutes, according to the police account.

“I’m unarmed, I’m an old man,” Lutes, 51, told The Associated Press on Thursday. “I’m trying to find out why he’s taking pictures of my house. I said, ‘Knock on my door, let me know what you want.’ Then, I think he’s reaching for his business card and he pulls out a concealed weapon and I think he’s going to blow my head off.”

Lutes said the gun was beneath a cloth on the floor of the passenger side of McAffee’s vehicle.

The Idaho Republican Party said the arrest of one of its southwestern Idaho leaders was a “personal matter.”

“It’s not a party matter,” said Jonathan Parker, state GOP director in Boise.

McAffee didn’t return a phone call seeking comment Thursday evening.

But Ryan Davidson, another Paul supporter who has gained attention by pushing pro-marijuana voter initiatives in the central Idaho town of Hailey, said McAffee told him a different version of the altercation in a phone call from jail:

Lutes confronted McAffee, becoming increasingly hostile, Davidson said. When Lutes struck McAffee’s Ford Escort with his hand, McAffee brandished the weapon to de-escalate the conflict, Davidson said.

“Challis is one of the most mild-mannered, good-natured guys,” Davidson said. “The conversation wasn’t going anywhere, the guy smacked the car window. At that point, he (McAffee) felt threatened enough, he picked up the firearm in front of the seat that he carries for protection. The nature of the job is, you’re going to run into some unhappy people.”

Tony Schewmaker, the Wells Fargo contractor who hired McAffee, knew him through libertarian-leaning groups such as We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education.

Schewmaker objected to the $50,000 bond amount, saying the steep figure resulted from 4th District Magistrate Judge Kevin Swain’s objections to the weapon. Schewmaker also keeps a handgun in his vehicle, in particular for business in isolated, rural areas.

“Apparently, we can’t use a gun in our own protection,” Schewmaker told the AP. “You can have it to look pretty. But if somebody is attempting to attack you, you can’t pull it out of the holster. That’s what I’m gathering from this.”

Jeebus, who are these people?

27. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

Moyers tonight is a film called “Critical Condition”, it follows three families facing health crisis.

28. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

“Enough Already” By Cindy Sheehan

“And you look at somebody like that (note: me) and you think here’s somebody who’s just trying to find some meaning in her son’s death. And you have to be sympathetic to her. Anybody who has given a son to this country has made an enormous sacrifice, and you have to be sympathetic. But enough already.”
ABC Nightly News Anchor, Charles Gibson August 18, 2009

“Enough already?” Hmmm…I don’t know Charlie Gibson and I don’t pay any attention to his career, but I seem to agree with him on this one: “Enough already.”

Enough with the killing, torturing, wounding and profiting off of the backs of our troops and off of the lives of the people of Iraq-Af-Pak: as our brothers and sisters in Latin America say: “Basta!”

Somehow, I don’t think that this is what Charlie Gibson meant, though. I am sure that he just wants me to go away like most of the rest of the anti-war movement has done under the Obama presidency.

One of the things I hear quite often from people from all over the political spectrum is: “Why don’t you just go away, you’ve had your 15 minutes of fame.”

Yes, that’s exactly what I thought as soon as I heard that my son was killed in the US’s illegal and immoral war in Iraq: “this is a perfect opportunity to get my 15 minutes of fame.” Actually, after I slowly recovered from the shock and horror, the pain always remains, I thought that I had to do everything I can to end this nightmare so other mothers/families wouldn’t have to go through what I was going through and what I am going through.

I certainly am not the anchor of a major network news show, but last time I checked, people are still dying at a heartrending clip in Iraq-Af-Pak.

If my goal was “15 minutes of fame,” I could have gone quietly away a long time ago. I started because I wanted the wars to end, and I will figure I can go away when the wars end…but when is that going to be? In my lifetime, probably not.

I am cutting my writing-staycation short to head to Martha’s Vineyard because I think the new titular head of the empire needs to know that his policies are devastating people as much as the same policies did when Bush was president.

I would rather be able to go away and spend the rest of my life worshipping my grandchildren, writing, reading, resting, and doing humanitarian work where I am needed.

I wish the wars would go away, but they aren’t going away if we the people don’t get more militantly insistent.

marisacat - 21 August 2009

the polling this week shows that there is growing fatigue with the AfPak bullshit as well. Gee why not.

29. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

Roseanne the Riveter & the New Guilted Age

Looks like the new Media Village talking point has been distributed: Americans don’t deserve a decent health care system because we are disgusting fat pigs.

There’s a point (around 3:00) in the MSNBC clip John posted earlier where Taibbi talks about America’s relatively high infant mortality rate and low life expectancy, and Maria Bartiromo interrupts to snarl, “We’re OBESE!” with the same combination of loathing & denunciation that a televangelist would use for “We have sinned!” Bartiromo, of course, is not obese—her television contract is based on her meeting certain standards of attractiveness, and I’m sure it includes clauses covering the personal trainers, gym memberships, nutritionists, and whatever other outside assistance is required to keep Bartiromo up to those standards. But the rest of us, well, how can we expect our babies to stay alive if we insist on being willfully, knowingly “obese”?

Then, in the WSJ op-ed John linked later in the evening, anesthesiologist and anti-happiness crusader Dr. Ronald Dworkin complains that Obama’s threatened health reforms will drive skilled professionals like himself out of the medical business, because taxes are too high and Medicare compensation is too low and frankly, smart people don’t want to work that hard. Also, “Americans have grown very fat. This complicates anesthesia tremendously. Putting in IVs, spinals and epidurals is harder. Inserting breathing tubes is much more dangerous. “ True enough, but then, he’s getting paid somewhere north of $300k a year to deal with those complicated fat people. “Quality of care will inevitably decline. That decline will come first in obstetrics… “ Go away, fat people, or the laboring mothers and their babies will suffer!

Granted: Being too fat is a genuine medical problem. Obesity, or the yo-yo dieting too often connected with obesity, leads to higher rates of heart disease, diabetes, joint problems, yada yada yada. But it’s also a very “resistant” Medical Issue, with roots in everything from genetics to modern suburban planning to the way industrial agriculture is subsidized by tax dollars but local farmers markets are not. In modern America, for all these reasons and more, it often costs more to be thin than to be fat. And it sure costs more to stay healthy, so— more and more often —poor Americans are fatter and less “fit” than wealthy Americans. It does not seem coincidental that one of the memes leaking upwards from the anti-reform astroturf has become “America’s medical system hasn’t failed American citizens—American citizens have failed its medical system.”

marisacat - 21 August 2009

Call me when thin runners live for ever… munching on lettuce and sprouts all the way.

Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

what, you mean Jim Fix isn’t still running around?


30. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

Rabbi / Obama Health Care Conference Call

Yesterday morning I was one of 1,000 Rabbis listening in on a conference call with President Obama on the hot button issue of heath care reform. The call was organized by coalition of Conservative, Reform, and Reconstructionist organizatoins including
The Central Conference of American Rabbis, Union for Reform Judaism, Rabbinical Assembly, Reconstructionist Rabbinical Association, and coordinated by the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism.

Technically speaking I’m not sure I’m “supposed” to write about the call. The intent of the call was less informative on Obama’s position, but more for the Rabbis to explore how to address the health care controversy in their upcoming High Holiday sermons. (In a nice move by Obama’s handler’s he began his health care discussion by referencing unetaneh tokef). Nevertheless there were point which I took away from the call that I feel are worth sharing with the public at large.

Despite the primary focus of the call being health care, Obama introduced his remarks by reiterating his support for Israel, its security, and its democracy. He then reiterated his push for a two-state solution, which he said was in Israel’s best interest. This of course is Obama’s publicly stated opinion, though I’m always confused when one follows praising a democracy with an assumption that he knows what’s better for the people.

31. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009

Hopefully there will be video floating around tomorrow, but Jeremy Scahill is tearing into Chuck Todd repeatedly during Maher tonight, and of course Todd is being a smug asshole in response.

32. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009
33. catnip - 21 August 2009

What a complete waste of money. Why don’t they collect to pay off someone’s health insurance bill instead?

catnip - 21 August 2009

They just don’t get it.

This is how (12+ / 0-)

we got Obama elected in the first place. Now we are doing what he asked us to – to carry the mail for him so he could be successful. If we want change, we have to be the change and we have to cough up the change.

Rocket science is easy. Keeping house is hard.

by Im a frayed knot on Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 07:58:28 PM MDT

CSTAR - 21 August 2009

My sense of humor must be really atrophied. Is this person suggesting we go work for the post office?

Or maybe become parking meters?

catnip - 21 August 2009

Well, I think it has something to do with swallowing quarters to become one with them. Kind of like The Zen of Send Money Now!

marisacat - 21 August 2009

carry the mail, want change, be change. Cough up the change.

For some reason I am thinking she is heading for a laundromat. Next to a post office. And along the way she runs into Ob, he steals her quarters.

34. catnip - 21 August 2009

Lipstick on a dead pig

Lakoff did not just bash a label that has gotten stuck in our throats, he actually gave us an outstanding alternative: “The American Option.” Why aren’t we using it?


because it’s too late?
because it’s stoopid?
because it won’t make a damn bit of difference?
because [fill in the bleeding obvious here]

Madman in the Marketplace - 21 August 2009



CSTAR - 21 August 2009

I like the French option myself.

catnip - 21 August 2009

Yanks aren’t allowed to have that much fun. Hoo-ah and all of that.

Hey! That’s what they should call it: the Yank Option – in preparation for the time when the so-called progressives finally realize it was yanked right out from under them on day one.

BooHooHooMan - 21 August 2009

“merkin Option…Let’s use it! Why not?

Because they’d be in Breach of their Patsy Partnership Agreement?
Since it’s a clear copy-write violation against the GOP?

Fuck me 8 ways to Sunday, It’s so fuckin ludicrous,
the Pretenders dressed in
Commie Pinko Fag Drag now wanna rebrand ” …’Merkin”

35. marisacat - 21 August 2009

The Moyers is so hard.

CSTAR - 21 August 2009

it was very difficult to watch.

marisacat - 21 August 2009

Extending Medicare to age 50 would help a lot. Federal coverage of children to 18 would help a lot, better than grants to the states… which is a wide range of actual services offered… from something half decent in Cali (tho we have no idea what is coming) to, moiv tells me, new borns in Texas are covered only for 2 months.

36. marisacat - 21 August 2009

neue thread….


……………… 🙄 ………………….

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