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Just a thread…. 15 September 2009

Posted by marisacat in Afghanistan War, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, WAR!.

War widows hold up their rationing cards for collecting their monthly rations from a relief agency in Kabul. [BBC]


Geesh.  I am just rereading that clunky sentence under the photo.  That is not my doing, it’s the BBC’s descriptive line.  Such as it is.



1. marisacat - 15 September 2009

luv the last line. Sums it up.

[“E]ven after Max Baucus (D-Mont.) spoke optimistically of gaining bipartisan backing, lawmakers continued to haggle over a question at the heart of the debate: How can the government force people to buy insurance without imposing a huge new financial burden on millions of middle-class Americans?” Lori Montgomery and Shailagh Murray report in The Washington Post.

“A smaller bill would mean less help for people — particularly those who earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but too little to easily slip the equivalent of a second rent payment into their budgets.” . . . .

via The Note

2. marisacat - 15 September 2009

hmm no arrests yet in the Queens raid. Think they have one more overnight, then they have to punt or get out of the damned boat. Then again, we are dealing with Terra Terra Terra here, so who know.

I esp loved how I kept seeing that lousy PETER KING telling me what was going on, from his briefings from the FBI.


3. catnip - 15 September 2009

Oh no he did-n’t:

The 240-179 vote for a resolution of House disapproval of Wilson’s act was cast largely along party lines.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) initially thought that the public rebuke would serve as a distraction from the healthcare debate but yielded to lawmakers, including members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who said Wilson’s outburst was a sign of disrespect of the nation’s first African American president.

“I guess we’ll probably have folks putting on white hoods again,” Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) said. “That’s the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked.”

marisacat - 15 September 2009

what tired bullshit. MAYBE 20 years ago you could get me exercised (HA!) over the Confederate Flag. But no longer.

Frankly the Blacks who make it ot the House are pretty damned comfy with the White Citizens Councils. Etc.

Madman in the Marketplace - 15 September 2009

Jump on the wagon: Jimmy Carter: Wilson’s Outburst Was Racist

Stock photo

Former President Jimmy Carter said in an interview Tuesday that Congressman Joe Wilson’s “you lie” outburst to President Obama was “based on racism” and that many of the critiques leveled against the president have been made because of his black heritage.

“I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man,” Carter said in an sit-down with NBC’s Brian Williams.

Carter specifically said that Wilson’s comment was “dastardly” and part of an “inherent feeling” held by many Americans — particularly Southerners — that African-Americans “are not qualified to lead this great country.”

“It’s an abominable circumstances and grieves me and concerns me very deeply,” Carter said.

However true it may or may not be, it’s certainly good for fundraising, and riling up the base after the party fucks them over on everything that actually matters.

marisacat - 15 September 2009

ugh.. Jimmie says thing about black people that make me cringe. Very recently too, last year on with Tavis Smiley.

But yeah it plays well. Esp with Northerners. All racism is Southern. They like that.

And you know we are all just God’s children out here in the West. None of that nasty old racism stuff. Nossir.

Madman in the Marketplace - 15 September 2009

oppression is only real if it’s done by people who have a flag.

You westerners don’t have a nifty flag to call your own, like that fancy Confederate Battle Flag … unless you count that hippy freak flag that I’m always hearing people in SF fly, since the ’60s never ended there.

marisacat - 15 September 2009


We have the California Bear Flag! Golden poppy depictions! Rainbows forever flags! We try!

Madman in the Marketplace - 15 September 2009



Not manly muscular Christ flags, with stars and bars and maybe a man on horseback! How can you crush savages under you boot heel with Winnie the Pooh on your flag?

Never be proper racists with flags like those.

marisacat - 15 September 2009

that made me laugh!

yeah our bear with poppies behind his ears and a street paved with rainbows. Yup…

BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2009

After Labor Day?

4. BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2009

Rockefeller Family’s Chief Investment Officer
Dead in Car.
Excellent Health …..except for the fatal bullet wounds.
56 years old.

McDonald had been president and chief executive of the New York investment manager since 2001. The company was started in 1882 by John D. Rockefeller to manage the family’s assets.

Rockefeller & Co., which also has offices in Boston, Washington and Wilmington, Del., offers wealth and investment management services to families, foundations and endowments. The company had $25 billion in assets under administration at the end of last year, according to its Web site.

“Jim McDonald was an exceptional individual, who provided strong leadership of Rockefeller and Company for over eight years,” board Chairman Colin Campbell said in a statement. “He will be missed by all of us privileged to have known and worked with him.”

Austin Shapard, the company’s chief operating and financial officer, has assumed day-to-day leadership of Rockefeller & Co.

McDonald, a New York City resident, was also on the board of stock exchange operator NYSE Euronext. He was formerly on the board of CIT Group Inc.

Poor bastard. Well, SOMEONE wasn’t keeping up with their reading.
Didn’t he get the news?
Fed Chief Says Recession Is ‘Very Likely Over’ 😯

marisacat - 15 September 2009

wasn’t Chris Kelly found “dead in hsi car”. As well as the fast suicide last year… forget now who it was, some Wall Streeter… also found “dead in his car”.

Stay out of cars. And small planes.

BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2009

There’s gotta be an angle to make a buck on all this.
Franchise it…go Burger Chain Golden with an IPO. Somethin.

I’m thinkin a drive through with a One Shot Novelty item
offered with a Not So Happy Meal.
Ample Parking…The beauty of it?
The food can suck.

marisacat - 15 September 2009

Not so Happy Meal… and a Last Meal. AND make a public offering of the franchise…

You’re right there si a certain … ah… SYMPHONY to it.

BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2009

Just tryin to be helpful.
I’m figurin ya co venture with the Organ Brokers,
grab an Ag Subsidy for your meat processing spin off,
nail down the Cash For Clunkers….that’s the thing…
You know- A real clean operation.
So People and their Vehicles could get in and out quick.

5. marisacat - 15 September 2009

may they all claw each other to death. Via Times UK

Deep rifts at the heart of Western policy on Afghanistan were laid bare yesterday when President Obama’s top military adviser challenged him to authorise a troop surge that his most senior congressional allies have said they will oppose.

Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that more US troops as well as a rapid increase in the size and capability of the Afghan army were needed to carry out the President’s own strategy for prevailing in Afghanistan as the eighth anniversary of a debilitating war approaches.

His remarks to a Senate hearing came as Bob Ainsworth, the British Defence Secretary, said that the Taleban had proven a resilient enemy. “We’re far from succeeding against them yet but I reject that we’re not making progress,” he said at King’s College London.

Mr Obama also rejected claims that Afghanistan was turning into a quagmire akin to Vietnam, but his immediate dilemma is political: approving a surge could trigger a high-level mutiny [don’t make me laugh TOO hard! — Mcat] within his own party. Making matters worse, a new poll showed that public support for the war has slumped since April.

“Each historical moment is different,” Mr Obama said in an interview published yesterday. “You never step into the same river twice, and so Afghanistan is not Vietnam.” . . . . . .

Those sure sound like famous last words.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 15 September 2009
CSTAR - 15 September 2009

The Prince

Oprah (Forward by Prince)

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 15 September 2009
8. marisacat - 15 September 2009

whew. KGO the local news talk call in – pretty tightly tied to the Dem machine, is in a swelter over FOX and charges of racism. Screaming matches with callers.

9. marisacat - 15 September 2009

The Hill

Funny how the R can always get the Dems they need, whether it is 3 or 27.

Snowe falls away, leaving Senate Dems without GOP health support

By Alexander Bolton and Jeffrey Young – 09/15/09 08:10 PM ET

Senate Democrats are going to have to move forward on healthcare without a single Republican supporter after Sen. Olympia Snowe said Tuesday she could not back the Finance Committee’s bill.

Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) failed to win any Republican backer despite weeks of intense negotiations behind closed doors to strike a deal.

Snowe (Maine), who was one of three Republicans who backed the $787 billion economic stimulus package, was being lobbied heavily by the White House, and some centrists view her refusal to strike a deal with Baucus as troubling. But concerns about how the plan would be paid for prompted her to back away in the hours before its release.

“I do have concerns and I’m not sure they can be addressed before he issues [legislation] tomorrow,” Snowe said. . . . . .

10. marisacat - 15 September 2009

Ha! Feel the love. Full text

Rangel: Health bill harder after Obama speech

By ERICA WERNER (AP) – 10 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A key House committee chairman says proposals President Barack Obama set out in his health care speech are causing problems for Democrats trying to finalize health legislation in the House.

Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel of New York says House Democrats would have to slash subsidies to the poor to get their bill to the $900 billion, 10-year price tag Obama specified.

Rangel also noted that the president didn’t mention the new income tax on the wealthy that House Democrats want to use to pay for their bill, favoring a different approach instead. The congressman said “the restrictions that the president has given in his speech as well as the proposed discussions in the Senate has caused us more problems.

11. marisacat - 15 September 2009

Gave me a laugh..

Sully accuses DiFi of “Toryism”. For her stance on Afghanistan..

12. marisacat - 16 September 2009

aha! Sheer has a piece up at TruthDig… that says, sure he is a Socialist. FOR THE CORPS.



KGO is entering into the last slog of what will be 11 straight hours on Race, Racism… and it gets hotter and hotter. NOW any “non-constructive” use of the airwaves should “not be covered by free speech”.

Whew. Go ahead, make the wingers right. For years they, those loons on the right, have warned … a desired return to the Fairness Doctrine was only that the Democrats want to limit speech.


I say let it rip. Both sides want mayhem… and nothing less.

13. marisacat - 16 September 2009

Another thread…


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