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The do has oomph… 16 September 2009

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, UK.

An alpaca, a cousin of the llama, enjoys his straw breakfast at Vauxhall City Farm in London [Photograph: Katie Collins/PA]

… to say nothing of the bee-sting lips…




1. Revisionist - 16 September 2009

I may be late to the party and repeating shit but you really cant miss a DKOS diary by Dennis Kucinich — isnt he a knwn troll and should be banned on site anyway.

I mean the man spent most of 2007/08 saying SINGLE PAYER NOT-FOR-PROFIT anytime they allowed him on the stage.


slinkerwink who is one fo teh point kosnics for healthcare calls his diary a POS

you wrote a piece of shit diary
that did nothing to rally the troops other than to ask people to sign a petition and donate money.
I work full-time with the FDL team on health reform thanks to your donations.

by slinkerwink on Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 08:28:48 PM PDT

POS diary? To raise money?
That’s not really any different than your average diary.
by Serious Blogger

I think someone TR’d his tip jar

2. Revisionist - 16 September 2009

OMFG —– most priceless Kos comment EVER!

Sir, we are not an ATM.

Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

self awareness has never been their strong suit.

marisacat - 16 September 2009


heads in sand—- all the way to China. Not some shallow hole.

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

This Naked Dude Wants to Be Your Next Senator from Massachusetts

His name is Scott Brown. He fathered an American Idol contestant, and he hates the Gay Marriage, and right now he is a Massachusetts State Senator. Also he was naked in Cosmo in 1982!

He is such a hunk, too. Look at him! Do ladymags still feature hairy naked Republican dudes? Anyone? Jezebel?

Wonkette first discovered this hot piece in 2007, when Brown was reading obscenity-laced Facebook comments to horrified youths.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

hey.. how bad can it be.

4. marisacat - 16 September 2009

My god. The “Baucus plan” has a 233 page summary

Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

I had to turn the TV off … the attempted descriptions were giving me a headache.

Took a random vacation day today … think I’ll go outside and enjoy the beautiful day for a few hours.

marisacat - 16 September 2009


Revisionist - 16 September 2009

maybe its just me but everytine something comes out of the congress Single Payer seems like the logical fix. I keep hearing how “complicated” it all is. Bullshit. I could write a single payer bill in a couple of paragraphs. Its only complicated because they are going out of their way to legislate around a real healthcare system.

Anyway… what made be turn of the media this AM was all the racism pushback. Carter started a shitstorm and whitey is pissed. Another example of the “left” not getting it. Carter was the WORST person to be the apex of this tangent. The right consider him the “worst. president. ever.” and anything he says or does is riduculed and reviled. Spent an hour listening to angry local chatterer go ballistic about being called a racist. (in his defense he really isnt. he just lets crazies call in and be racist without calling them on it.)

marisacat - 16 September 2009

oh the Dems have been dumb about this. Unless one figures this is all they have left and they like doing this. Big finger shake. Which is what they like to do.

And I have pretty well decided they would be fine iwth a martyr. (Good Luck!)

Obama and his people cut out Single Payer, Medicare for All from all the talks at the very beginning. His own Chicago doctor who supports SP was disinvited from WH meetings.

Congress does what the corps and special interests want. Pretty simple.

Revisionist - 16 September 2009

its marvelous how they have the lefties fighting tooth and nail for a shitty bit of insurance regulation. They have been played something fierce. Now whatever scraps they get thrown will be a victory. They can pat themselves on the back for “winning” against the forces of darkness. And 4 years will go by before this joke even goes into effect. Plenty of time to gut or scrap it.

I saw a documentary a few weeks ago about the Medicare Act. Congress passed it and it looked like the next day Johnson signed it into law and signed Truman up as the first user. Looks like they had a plan in place to have Medicare up and running the day after. Cant do that now because the price tag looks to bad on paper if you do the start up right now.

The lefties need to change tack. If they are fighting they should fight for the logical easy solution that everyone knows is single payer and is what they really want. The frame is right there ready to be memed after Baucus.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

something like 40 million “seniors” went onto Medicare in 11 months.

Thsoe days are over. We live in the era of full on suckers and low to no implementation and in fact ROLL BACK.

Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

well, Jimmy does what Jimmy wants to do. The party, the media and the Republicans have written him off for years, marginalized on all sides, and I think he just likes to pop up every so often and stick his thumb in their eyes.

I’m rather enjoying watching EVERYONE lose their minds, frankly.

This country deserves everything coming down the pike.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

oh I agree Jimmie is operating on his own. No great love for anyone… and he gets to sub rosa say “I never was a racist” etc.

But all sorts in the party are saying it.. out loud. I cringed listening to Eddie Bernice Johnson, and Barbara Lee, both of the House. Among others.

Hey go for it girls. Whatever!

(got two of yours out of Mod, sorry Madman!! 😳 )

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

Nadler, Baldwin and Polis Introduce the Respect for Marriage Act to Repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), Chair of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) and Congressman Jared Polis (D-CO), along with Congressman John Conyers (D-MI), Congressman John Lewis (D-GA), Congresswoman Nydia Velazquez (D-NY) and Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-CA), with a total of 91 original co-sponsors to date, introduced the Respect for Marriage Act in the House of Representatives. This legislation would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), a 1996 law which discriminates against lawfully married same-sex couples.

The 13-year-old DOMA singles out legally married same-sex couples for discriminatory treatment under federal law, selectively denying them critical federal responsibilities and rights, including programs like social security that are intended to ensure the stability and security of American families.

The Respect for Marriage Act, the consensus of months of planning and organizing among the nation’s leading LGBT and civil rights stakeholders and legislators, would ensure that valid marriages are respected under federal law, providing couples with much-needed certainty that their lawful marriages will be honored under federal law and that they will have the same access to federal responsibilities and rights as all other married couples.

The Respect of Marriage Act would accomplish this by repealing DOMA in its entirety and by adopting the place-of-celebration rule recommended in the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act, which embraces the common law principle that marriages that are valid in the state where they were entered into will be recognized. While this rule governs recognition of marriage for purposes of federal law, marriage recognition under state law would continue to be decided by each state.

The Respect for Marriage Act would not tell any state who can marry or how married couples must be treated for purposes of state law, and would not obligate any person, church, city or state to celebrate or license a marriage of two people of the same sex. It would merely restore the approach historically taken by states of determining, under principles of comity and Full Faith and Credit, whether to honor a couple’s marriage for purposes of state law.

We’ll see if it goes anywhere.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

well unless I am mistaken that is the effort that Franks pointed at and sniffed. “Not now”, “no time” .. “too busy”.

Gotta love how it works.

Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

I think you’re right.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

A Recipe for Disaster: School Cops Are Being Armed with 50,000-Volt Tasers

The bizarre rash of student electrocutions might have been an aberration on Florida prison grounds, but the guards — three of whom were fired and two of who resigned — might be forgiven for assuming that such devices are somehow safe for kids. Even as news outlets across the country report episode after episode where police officers tase and use stun guns on unlikely people — take the pregnant woman tased at a baptism in Virginia or the 72-year-old woman tased in a Texas traffic stop — more and more police officers are being given tasers to carry into schools.

And not just college campuses; middle and high schools across the country are inviting Taser-toting cops on school grounds.

This comes at a time when Tasers have claimed the lives of hundreds of people, including three teenagers this year alone. While heightened security might be a necessity in an age where kids smuggle deadly weapons to school, this fact alone should give parents and school officials pause. Even as school administrators and local law enforcement accept and incorporate Tasers as disciplinary measures, deploying them on school grounds is putting students at risk.

Is Breaking School Rules A Crime?

Last September, police officers in Hawthorne, CA tased an autistic 12-year-old boy at his middle school after he became “violent,” launching a misconduct investigation by the police department. In June, at Penn Hills High School in Pennsylvania, a student was tased in the hallway after ignoring a police officer’s orders to put away his cell phone. (“The kid refused to listen,” Penn Hills Police Chief Howard Burton explained, saying the student then “pushed the officer.”)

In 2006, an 11th grader named Angel Debnam was tased at her high school in Bunn, North Carolina, just outside Raleigh. “Something sticks in you, and it’s like a wire,” Debnam described to local ABC affiliate WTVD. (“When I was on the ground crying and shaking, he asked me, ‘Was that enough? Are you calmed down now?’ and he did it again.”)

In March, the Los Angeles Times reported that “the number of law enforcement agencies that have given Tasers to officers who work on school campuses has grown to well over 4,000,” according to Steve Tuttle, Vice President of Communications at Taser International. That’s up from 1,700 in 2005.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

Is Breaking School Rules A Crime?

it ain’t just the xtian whackjobs homeschooling. I’d think long and hard before i put a child in public education. It really is surrender to a completely foreign environment …. both the child and the parents come under “special care”.

I was reading the other night about the large sums of money authorised (not an unfunded mandate!) for schools as part of the larger Disability Act… for head counts of ADHD and ADD. Which of course poor black children (and others… “don’t be a problem”!) get thrown into that dx now for almost two decades. BUT the schools do not spend the money for enhanced education nor special care… nor learning materials. They “house” the children separately and basically abscond with the money in various ways.

I knew about the sequestering.. and the baby sitting… but I did nto know about the sums of money paid for the head counts.

Yes it is all so working. And where do a lot of authoritarian types like to hang out? SCHOOL environments.

Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

“citizens” and their children are merely livestock to be exploited in our system. Sources of funds or bodies for war or fake enfranchised votes for their mock elections.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

it really is livestock.

brinn - 17 September 2009

I will be keeping a very close eye on this. Kid the elder goes to middle school next year. Anyone allowed on campus with more than a ruler, and they can come hunt my ass down for aiding and abetting truancy…shit, I looked at the “objectives” they sent home for my first-grader’s school year…I could teach him that in about 6 weeks, and then we could do thing actually called “education” for the other 8 months….

dammit. I am annoyed.

pleased that such as you exist though…AND, that I am privvy to your thoughts, rants and otherwise!

Thanks for/to all of you!

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

ACORN has started their counteroffensive:

Attack Videographer Caught in Manipulation and Lies

(San Bernardino, CA) — Today the videographer James O’Keefe’s hidden camera “interview” with San Bernardino ACORN organizer Tresa Kaelke, airing repeatedly on Fox “News”, including the Glenn Beck show, and on BigGovernment.com, has been caught out in an obvious set of lies and manipulations.

When the actors approached Ms. Kaelke with their provocative costuming and outlandish scenario, she could not take them seriously. So she met their outrageousness with her own personal style of outrageousness. She matched their false scenario with her own false scenarios.

“They were not believable”, said Ms. Kaelke of the two actors. “Somewhat entertaining, but they weren’t even good actors. I didn’t know what to make of them. They were clearly playing with me. I decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me. Like Stephen Colbert does – saying the most outrageous things with a straightface.” While her sense of humor might not be funny to many people, the fact is that she spun false scenario afterfalse scenario and the videographer ate them up.

For example, in response to the set-up by the filmmakers in which they say they are trying get the young woman away from her abusive pimp, she responds that she was abused by her former husband as well (true) and that she shot and killed him (false). He is very much alive and living near Barstow, CA.

However, this is taken as the gospel truth, not just in the film itself, but also by several “news” personalities,indicating that no journalistic standards were applied to making the video or vetting it for broadcast.

Further, as the actors repeatedly noted how nice she was being, Ms Kaelke responded, also repeatedly, that her”niceness” was just her, not ACORN. “My supervisor would shoot this down like faster than a bat out of hell.”

When the actors talked about bringing 12-13 year olds in from another country, supposedly because they needed a lot of money fast for a political campaign, Ms. Kaelke said, “You are going to need it for a lawyer!”

These exchanges, which do not appear in the edited film put on BigGovernment.com, call into question the journalistic standards of the film and of any purported news organization that chooses to run them.

Ms. Kaelke, who did not know she was being filmed, is appalled that her defensive attempts to deal with a troubling experience have been manipulated into an attack on her work helping low- and moderate-income families fight the foreclosure crisis, work for needed health care reform, and face the economic crisis in San Bernardino.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

they sent podesta in

marisacat - 16 September 2009

although kaelke’s defense predates podesta

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

Senate passes measure to allow gun transport on Amtrak

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Amtrak would lose its federal subsidies if it doesn’t put a system in place by early next year to check and track firearms so that passengers can legally put the weapons in their checked baggage, the Senate voted Wednesday.

The measure, an amendment to the transportation and housing appropriations bill, passed 68-30.

The House version of the bill, passed in July, does not include the provision, so further steps would be needed for it to reach President Obama’s desk.

Amtrak’s current policy prohibits passengers from carrying “any type of gun, firearm, ammunition, explosives or weapon” in carry-on or checked baggage.

Amtrak spokesman Steve Kulm said firearms had been allowed in checked baggage before the September 11 attacks.

However, despite the policy change, the company has no uniform system of screening for firearms, Amtrak Chairman Thomas Carper noted in a letter to Sens. Patty Murray and Christopher Bond decrying Wednesday’s congressional mandate. They are the top Democrat and Republican, respectively, on the Appropriations Committee’s transportation subcommittee.

“Unlike the airline industry, Amtrak has no system in place for a uniform system of screening for weapons,” Carper wrote. The railroad has no secure loading areas, and trains make multiple stops, he said. Employees also would need intensive training.

Further, he said, the National Railroad Passenger Corp. (Amtrak) has neither the money nor the time to meet the Senate’s timetable to put such a system in place.

Carper warned that if Amtrak were to lose federal funds, it would result in the “cessation of all Amtrak service nationwide.”

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009
marisacat - 16 September 2009

A full obituary will be coming soon.

hm sounds like the Times was not ready for this one.

Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

I think she’s been ill for a while.

One of the Laugh In regulars passed today, too.

Henry Gibson Died: Dead At 73

marisacat - 16 September 2009

oh I remember Gibson well…

Travers has looked ill or under heavy medication for some years… by heavy medication i don’t mean she appeared drunk or anything.. just the facial swelling.

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009

As Predicted, Military Weapons Are Being Deployed Against Civilians Here in the U.S.

San Diego Sheriff Bill Gore deployed (but did not use) military type sonic crowd-control devices at two town hall meetings, one held by GOP Darrell Issa and the other by Democrat Susan Davis. These devices are the same as those used to control crowds of insurgents in the Iraq war theatre and have been linked to ear and brain injury.

Both town halls took place without incident; however the use of the military device concerned San Diegians. The LRAD [Long-Range Acoustic Device] crowd control is primarily used in Iraq to control insurgents and can cause serious and lasting harm to humans.

marisacat - 16 September 2009

one held by GOP Darrell Issa and the other by Democrat Susan Davis.

One party. Slices of the pie is all that is different.

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 September 2009
catnip - 16 September 2009

Good for them.

12. marisacat - 16 September 2009

Might as well laugh.

[R]ockefeller emerged from the Senate Democrats’ weekly luncheon Tuesday afternoon, which featured an appearance by President Barack Obama’s communications guru David Axelrod, wondering aloud (perhaps rhetorically) whether the White House’s get-it-done message to Congress wasn’t bold enough.

“David’s in there — Axelrod — saying we’ve got to try to get ‘something.’ So, the new benchmark is, ‘Well, if we can do something, if we can do anything, then we can say we did healthcare reform,’” Rockefeller said.

“Are we getting to the point where, if we do anything, we’ve achieved our purpose?” he said, less than an hour before announcing on a conference call with reporters that he would not vote to support the healthcare reform bill being drafted by Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.). . . . . .

I read Axelrod is working the MASS leg too… LOL success? success?.. he’ll call anything a success.

catnip - 16 September 2009

That sounds like a Monty Python skit.

13. marisacat - 16 September 2009

Very funny… reading around ti seems only Ezra Klein and the insruance cos love the Baucus bill.

what a hoot!!

14. catnip - 16 September 2009

Van Jones on Van Jones:

4. Stay connected and speak up for me via your favorite blogs (e.g., Huffington Post, Grist, Jack & Jill, etc.), on message boards and all of your favorite social networking platforms (Twitter, Facebook, etc.). Supporters have set up a couple of them, to help you stay engaged, including: I Stand With Van Jones and I Love Van Jones.

In due course, I will be offering my perspective on what has happened—including correcting the record about false charges. In the meantime, I must get my family affairs in order and sort through numerous offers and options.

Seems “narcissist” should be added to his resume.

marisacat - 16 September 2009


I read some slobbering luv for him, weeks before this happened. The gist was he is “valuable to the movement as he is huge online”.

I just rolled my eyes.

15. catnip - 16 September 2009

Not only is Van Jones under the bus, he’s now in spam.

16. marisacat - 16 September 2009

Of course it was all Baucus. Ob was in the mens’ room for 8 months.

[L]iberal Democrats have been skeptical of Baucus (D-Mont.) for years, and questioned why Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) let the centrist chairman of the Senate Finance Committee spend months negotiating behind the scenes with Republicans whom they suspected would never support the bill.

Some were even insulted by the way Baucus kept them out of the closed-door meetings, choosing a narrow group they say poorly represented the party.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), the chairman of the panel’s Health subcommittee, has already said he will vote against the bill. He told The New York Times in July he had “basically been shut out of the process,” a point echoed by other lawmakers.

Baucus handpicked the Gang of Six, a group of lawmakers who represent states with a combined population of 8.4 million people, about the same as New York City. . . . . .


17. marisacat - 17 September 2009

Kabul suicide attack kills 16: officials

AFP – ‎10 minutes ago‎

KABUL – A massive suicide car bomb killed 10 Afghan civilians and wounded another 55 in Kabul on Thursday in an attack that also left six Italian soldiers dead, an interior ministry spokesman said.

HA! I read today that Ob met privately with members of Congress.. wtih a 55 point list of what to watch for that signals…


We are so far down the rabbit hole…

18. catnip - 17 September 2009


“Fired up! Ready to go!”

Again with the fucking story in a speech on my teevee.

marisacat - 17 September 2009

meanwhile I see Glenn Beck makes the cover of TIME… if that matters anymore. But he should send champagne to Ob. Who elevated him.


catnip - 17 September 2009

I see heavy medication in Beck’s future.

marisacat - 17 September 2009

diet pills

BooHooHooMan - 17 September 2009

you again, with the “Again with” ya – 😉
Him again, too, – on the TV. LOL
Allow me…
{ deftly whacks side of Television with 2×4 –
~Whoops! ~ 😯

19. marisacat - 17 September 2009

ratchet ratchet.

I can wrap her up and ship her, overnight priority. Maybe some district wants her. I hear Speaker’s job comes with great pork delivery.

Someone take her please.

BooHooHooMan - 17 September 2009

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s eyes watered Thursday as she called for the rhetorical heat to be turned down across the country, and warned that such words can lead to violence — a phenomenon she witnessed herself in San Francisco.

Just saw it.
Just so Tired of her and her blubbery boobed cohorts.
The Dems.

Bibi’ll go there. Rahm can play Al Haig.

marisacat - 17 September 2009

I thought the article was a scream!

Esp when it called her a “gay rights advocate”.


20. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 September 2009

Sotomayor Issues Challenge to a Century of Corporate Law

WASHINGTON — In her maiden Supreme Court appearance last week, Justice Sonia Sotomayor made a provocative comment that probed the foundations of corporate law.

During arguments in a campaign-finance case, the court’s majority conservatives seemed persuaded that corporations have broad First Amendment rights and that recent precedents upholding limits on corporate political spending should be overruled.

But Justice Sotomayor suggested the majority might have it all wrong — and that instead the court should reconsider the 19th century rulings that first afforded corporations the same rights flesh-and-blood people have.

Judges “created corporations as persons, gave birth to corporations as persons,” she said. “There could be an argument made that that was the court’s error to start with…[imbuing] a creature of state law with human characteristics.”

After a confirmation process that revealed little of her legal philosophy, the remark offered an early hint of the direction Justice Sotomayor might want to take the court.

“Progressives who think that corporations already have an unduly large influence on policy in the United States have to feel reassured that this was one of [her] first questions,” said Douglas Kendall, president of the liberal Constitutional Accountability Center.

“I don’t want to draw too much from one comment,” says Todd Gaziano, director of the Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at the conservative Heritage Foundation. But it “doesn’t give me a lot of confidence that she respects the corporate form and the type of rights that it should be afforded.”

For centuries, corporations have been considered beings apart from their human owners, yet sharing with them some attributes, such as the right to make contracts and own property. Originally, corporations were a relatively rare form of organization. The government granted charters to corporations, delineating their specific functions. Their powers were presumed limited to those their charter spelled out.

color me surprised.

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 September 2009

Is America Hooked on War?

Because the United States does not look like a militarized country, it’s hard for Americans to grasp that Washington is a war capital, that the United States is a war state, that it garrisons much of the planet, and that the norm for us is to be at war somewhere at any moment. Similarly, we’ve become used to the idea that, when various forms of force (or threats of force) don’t work, our response, as in Afghanistan, is to recalibrate and apply some alternate version of the same under a new or rebranded name — the hot one now being “counterinsurgency” or COIN — in a marginally different manner. When it comes to war, as well as preparations for war, more is now generally the order of the day.

This wasn’t always the case. The early Republic that the most hawkish conservatives love to cite was a land whose leaders looked with suspicion on the very idea of a standing army. They would have viewed our hundreds of global garrisons, our vast network of spies, agents, Special Forces teams, surveillance operatives, interrogators, rent-a-guns, and mercenary corporations, as well as our staggering Pentagon budget and the constant future-war gaming and planning that accompanies it, with genuine horror.

The question is: What kind of country do we actually live in when the so-called U.S. Intelligence Community (IC) lists 16 intelligence services ranging from Air Force Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the Defense Intelligence Agency to the National Reconnaissance Office and the National Security Agency? What could “intelligence” mean once spread over 16 sizeable, bureaucratic, often competing outfits with a cumulative 2009 budget estimated at more than $55 billion (a startling percentage of which is controlled by the Pentagon)? What exactly is so intelligent about all that? And why does no one think it even mildly strange or in any way out of the ordinary?

What does it mean when the most military-obsessed administration in our history, which, year after year, submitted ever more bloated Pentagon budgets to Congress, is succeeded by one headed by a president who ran, at least partially, on an antiwar platform, and who has now submitted an even larger Pentagon budget? What does this tell you about Washington and about the viability of non-militarized alternatives to the path George W. Bush took? What does it mean when the new administration, surveying nearly eight years and two wars’ worth of disasters, decides to expand the U.S. Armed Forces rather than shrink the U.S. global mission?

What kind of a world do we inhabit when, with an official unemployment rate of 9.7% and an underemployment rate of 16.8%, the American taxpayer is financing the building of a three-story, exceedingly permanent-looking $17 million troop barracks at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan? This, in turn, is part of a taxpayer-funded $220 million upgrade of the base that includes new “water treatment plants, headquarters buildings, fuel farms, and power generating plants.” And what about the U.S. air base built at Balad, north of Baghdad, that now has 15 bus routes, two fire stations, two water treatment plants, two sewage treatment plants, two power plants, a water bottling plant, and the requisite set of fast-food outlets, PXes, and so on, as well as air traffic levels sometimes compared to those at Chicago’s O’Hare International?

marisacat - 17 September 2009

air traffic levels sometimes compared to those at Chicago’s O’Hare International?

we’re never coming home. 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened for the Pentagon and the def (ha!) industry.

22. marisacat - 17 September 2009

Democracy NOW! had on Bertha Lewis the national CEO of ACORN.

23. marisacat - 17 September 2009

hmm what a shock… I think the Republicans are trying to rebut Nancy (which is not too hard) by saying that Dan White was a Democrat. In other words the assassinations were a Democrat killing two Democrats (tho in SF, the mayor is officially non partisan)

Don’t recall it being that way, myself. IIRC he was a Republican.

24. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 September 2009

Blood on the Tracks: The Continuing Lessons of Terror and Tyranny

At some point earlier this month, Barack Obama took a moment out of his busy day to sign an “execute order.” That is, he ordered American agents to kill a man without any legal procedure whatsoever: no arrest, no trial, no formal presentation – and disputation – of evidence, no defense…and no warning. They killed him on the open road, in a sneak attack; he was not engaged in combat, he was not posing an imminent threat to anyone at the time, he had not been charged with any crime. This kind of thing is ordinarily regarded as murder. Certainly, if you or I killed someone in this way – or paid someone to do it – then we would find ourselves in the dock, facing life imprisonment or our own execution. But then, you and I are subject to the law; our leaders are not.

Let’s say it again, just to let the reality of the situation sink in a bit further: at some point last week, Barack Obama ordered men in his employ to murder another human being. And not a single voice of protest was raised anywhere in the American political and media establishments. Churchmen did not thunder from the pulpits about this lawless action. The self-proclaimed patriots and liberty-lovers on the ever-more militant Right did not denounce this most extreme expression of state tyranny: the leader’s arbitrary power to kill anyone he pleases. It is simply an accepted, undisputed fact of American life today that American leaders can and do – and should – murder people, anywhere in the world, if they see fit. When this supreme tyranny is noted at all, it is simply to celebrate the Leader for his toughness — or perhaps chide him for not killing even more people in this fashion.

I wrote a great deal about this theme when George W. Bush was president. I began back in November 2001, after the Washington Post reported that Bush had signed an executive order giving himself the power to order the killing of anyone he arbitrarily designated a terrorist. Year after year, I wrote of how this murderous edict was put into practice around the world, and of its virulently corrosive effects on American society. Now Barack Obama is availing himself of these same powers. There is not one crumb, one atom, one photon of difference between Obama and Bush on this issue. They both believe that the president of the United States can have people killed outside of any semblance of a judicial process: murdered, in cold blood, in sneak attacks, with any “collateral damage” regarded as an acceptable by-product – just like the terrorists they claim to be fighting with these methods.

Nor does this doctrine of presidential murder make any distinction between American citizens and foreigner. Indeed, one of the first people known to have been killed in this way was an American citizen living in Yemen. So let us put the reality in its plainest terms: if the president of the United States decides to call you a terrorist and kill you, he can. He doesn’t have to arrest you, he doesn’t have to charge you, he doesn’t have to put you on trial, he doesn’t have to convict you, he doesn’t have to sentence you, he doesn’t have to allow you any appeals: he can just kill you. And no one in the American power structure will speak up for you or denounce your murder; they won’t even see that it’s wrong, they won’t even consider it remarkable. It’s just business as usual. It’s just the way things are done. It’s just the way we are now.

marisacat - 17 September 2009

So many frenemies to deal with. We can’t pussy foot around you know. And it’s FUN being the first Black CIC.

Fun fun fun. Tho he would shed a tear and say otherwise.

25. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 September 2009
26. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 September 2009


The provenance of the outrage applied to the Belleville West High School incident is obvious if you’ve been alive for more than a couple of years. Normal people know that in different situations, black kids will victimize white kids and white kids will victimize black kids, and it’s part of the sad but slowly improving situation of the United States. I knew it when I was younger and things were much worse. (I saw a little of both sides, too — I don’t mean figuratively, but with my eyes.)

Normal people work through such resentments as these incidents bestir in them as best they can. A certain type of person tries instead to work them.

To a certain extent, playing with that particular kind of fire doesn’t have to come out badly. New York City is a pretty good example. There are lines, albeit thin ones, between solidarity and isolation and between righteous indignation and rage. When it goes wrong, you get the Draft Riots, “Irish confetti,” the 60s riots, Crown Heights, etc. When it goes right, you get political clubs and affinity groups, which do business with other clubs and groups and get deals done to their mutual benefit.

One of the reasons conservatives classically hate New York is because we have mostly worked out our ethnic tensions this way, in informal power sharing arrangements. That angers them because it reveals something they don’t like to face about racism — that it has to do with power, and that cooling its tensions may require that grievances be addressed and redressed. Maybe some jobs have to be shoveled toward ethnically distinct neighborhoods that don’t have many of them, and maybe the mayor won’t always line up with the cops when a member of a minority group is killed under suspicious circumstances.

It ain’t always pretty but it more or less works. You may prefer that men be angels and rise above this sort of thing, but that sort of liberal utopianism is beyond me. I do notice that people of different races seem to get along here pretty well — certainly better than they did 30 years ago — so maybe the incremental approach, assisted by liberal applications of grease, will get us to Valhalla anyway, albeit slowly.

Members of white majority parties resist this thinking because it suggests that they may have to give something up. So they concentrate on ways in which they can portray white people as victims of some sort of black hegemony, and adopt the prerogatives of grievance themselves. You’ll remember that conservatives originally tried to get at ACORN by suggesting that it was redirecting wealth unfairly to black people. (It was only when that failed to inflame the public imagination that they turned to child prostitution stings.) The clear message of the Belleville uproar is that people of color are getting away with something, and simple justice demands that white people hold the line.

marisacat - 17 September 2009

Is the Belleville incident the beating on the bus?

But the child (a teenager I guess) that broke it up says it was not racially motivated. The poor white kid gets badly bullied everyday… and in this instance it boiled over.

Tho it looks very bad.

There is too much tone in that article that “Democratic rule can make it all work”.

Which to be frank I would nto agree with. They paper things over and a so-called mix of like minded authoritarians rise and in fact dominate the political clubs. You get engineered solutions that leave a lot of people out.

So much for REAL diversity.

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 September 2009

yup, it’s the bus thing.

I took it to be more that plain old-fashioned tit-for-tat horse trading worked.

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 September 2009

oh, and meant to add that plain old-fashioned horse trading is what political parties think IS democratic rule.

27. marisacat - 17 September 2009

just a thread – again…


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28. BooHooHooMan - 17 September 2009

Via Huffpo.

Nomi Morris I GlobalPost
TORONTO, Canada –

A protest over a Toronto International Film Festival spotlight on Tel Aviv cinema has galvanized the globe’s creative community.

From Cairo to Calgary, artists can often be divided on their Middle East views but most agree on the need to draw the line between cultural expression and political advocacy.

As a glamorous parade of celebrities walk the red carpet here, increasing numbers of Hollywood stars are speaking out for or against the festival’s critics, who say the Tel Aviv program boosts Israel’s tarnished image eight months after its devastating bombing raids in the Gaza Strip.

“We protest that TIFF, whether intentionally or not, has become complicit in the Israeli propaganda machine,” said the Toronto Declaration, signed earlier this month by 65 artists, including actresses Jane Fonda and Julie Christie, musicians David Byrne and Harry Belafonte and writers such as Alice Walker and Wallace Shawn.

Since then, 1,500 have added their names to the document, including 60 Israelis. The letter denounces the TIFF focus on Tel Aviv as being subverted by “the Israeli propaganda machine.”

I see the Bibi / Ob dance as crap.
They – our PTB…..and theirs…congealed, really….are trying to obtain some plausible distance for Israel to move on Iran.
Of course then, we’ll we just HAVE to defend Israel.
Oh yes we’ve heard it all before..nothing to worry about…
So the CW goes… we have Father Ob now… 🙄

As if Obama’s election has altered anything.

An eerie silence, is all I can say…..save the coverage that pops up of reinforcing notions of “ambush” on US troops or alleged domestic attacks “foiled” ….an eerie silence otherwise.

I also think the missile shield “stand down” (for now) is part of it.

marisacat - 17 September 2009

not that it means all that much, but Angry Arab has posted that Jane F and Tom Hayden had no problem traveling to Israel in the 80s and celebrating Israel’s wars (Lebanon in particular, and Angry Arab is Lebanese) of that era.

Hayden has publicly written that when he wanted to run for office in the 80s… a House seat representing Santa Monica… he was quickly contacted by the person who “controlled” that seat, one of a pair of brothers, name of Bernstein as I recall. Perhaps they did a “job” for the owner of the seat… and hid (yeah I so believe this whopper) their True Feelings.

We are so sunk.

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