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hmmm 1 October 2009

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

Standing in front of a backdrop of the Chicago skyline, U.S. first lady Michelle Obama is introduced by television host Oprah Winfrey before speaking at a dinner in Copenhagen in support of Chicago hosting the 2016 Summer Olympics. (AP)

His turn is today, to sell Chicago vs Rio, Madrid and Tokyo… for the Olympics… This was her preview with reporters on Monday.

Full text, Lynn Sweet, Sun-Times:

WASHINGTON–First Lady Michelle Obama, off to Copenhagen on Tuesday night to lobby for Chicago’s 2016 Olympic bid, said the rash of crime in Chicago won’t hurt the city when the International Olympic Committee votes on Friday.

In a session with reporters on Monday, Mrs. Obama said,

“You know, there are a number of big cities that are bidding. And when you live in a big city there are issues that are unique to urban settings. Chicago isn’t unique in that way. But that’s one of the things that I can talk about personally. I mean, you know, most of these Games are taking place blocks away from my house. There’s good security by my house these days. And while Chicago is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, it is — people don’t live in fear. The downtown area is completely accessible.

“But more importantly, the character of Chicago shines through. We’re Midwestern folks, and there’s a bit of southern hospitality that comes along with that place. We know how to treat our visitors with respect and with open arms. And I think that’s the character that will shine through, in addition to the fact that it’s such an international city.

“Then you think about the countries that are going to be represented and you think of the 77 different community areas in Chicago, it’s almost a little U.N. There are significant communities that would support these athletes from across the globe. And it’s important for people to understand that Chicago isn’t just a U.S. place, it’s an international place. And people will be able to go into communities and shop and find food that they get back home. They’ll be able to hear their music. They’ll be able to see people like them.

“I know Mayor Daley, and he’s going to make sure that these Games go off without a hitch because that’s the kind of mayor he is. It’s not called the “City That Works” for nothing. It really works. And it’s not always perfect, but it’s really, really good.”

Well, that should work… right?  The unspoken “promise” is they will flood the zone with Secret Service (and whatever else).

In Copenhagen, in a speech to Chicago supporters she said the influx and sports activities would – somehow or other! – help the poor children of Chicago.

No really, that got offered up.

And, perhaps in a pre-cursor to Friday’s formal pitch before the IOC,  Mrs. Obama talked about what hosting the Olympics in Chicago might mean for local children living in poverty.

“I just think, wouldn’t it be great if that kind of spirit was happening right down the street in our community? Just think of that. Kids and communities across the city, in Austin, kids who grew up in Cabrini, kids who live so far from the city. Now just imagine if all of that was happening right in their own backyard. That’s what I think about.”

“It does something to a kid when they can feel that energy and power up close and personal. And for some kids in our communities and our city, around the nation, around the world, they can never dream of being that close to such power and opportunity. So that’s what excites me most about bringing the Games to Chicago.”

For all I know, the FL of Brazil and Queen Sofia of Spain are offering up the same PR slop.

As I was wandering the Chicago papers I read about the killing of the school boy the other day, the one that was captured on video… and shown, probably, around the world.  And it involves Altgeld Gardens projects, where ‘Obama the community organiser’ plied his talents.

AND it involves Arne Duncan, as school children long at odds have been smushed together at Fenger, the school in question, following another school, Carver, becoming a “selective” military school.

Not the first time I have read under various changes, many related to NCLB, of schools closing and long time rivals pushed together.

Cynicism tells me it’s a PLAN:

[T]here’s a natural disadvantage for the Altgeld kids. They’re behind enemy lines, traversing unfamiliar streets in unfriendly territory. But they’re hardly running scared. They engage just as fiercely in the violence, students said.

Violence is not new to Fenger. Kids pass in and out of the school doors in packs, counting on strength in numbers. Some pass up nearby bus routes so they aren’t sitting targets at stops blocks from school. Few students sport backpacks, which make them susceptible to robbery and weigh them down, in case they need to run.

“(Both sides will) fight you anywhere, for anything,” said Glenn Fulton, 18, a senior at Fenger who travels with friends to a bus stop a few blocks from school. “You can’t avoid it. It’s impossible. If they get you by yourself, they can easily take you out.”

Altgeld students began to increase in numbers at Fenger in 2004, when Carver High School became a selective military school. A new grade was added each year until, in 2007, Carver had fully transformed into a military academy. That meant most Altgeld students had to go to Fenger, increasing the likelihood of tensions.

The district has tried to change the school’s culture.  . . . .

Where there is a will there is a way. Stick to the high road. Stay the course.   Stand up straight.  Sit still.  Be civil.  Vote.

Oh yes, how could I forget?  Eat your organic roughage.

Doesn’t have much bearing on their actual lives does it?




1. marisacat - 1 October 2009

btw, carry over from last thread : Grayson.

Americablog on his recent comments. They’ve put up links several times to his fund raising page, not surprisingly.

[W]e need more Democrats like Alan Grayson. He’s fearless, in addition to being right. As I said last night, I’m loving Grayson these days — and all the more because he’s offended the very delicate George Stephanopoulos and enraged the Republicans. I had a chance to spend some time with Grayson at Netroots Nation. The guy really is brilliant. His work on financial issues, especially his focus on the Fed, has really changed the course of the debate in Congress.

If you like what you’re hearing from Rep. Grayson, help him out. The Republicans are gunning for him now.

I assume it is similar at the other libdemelectbetterdems sites…


IMO it is no the R ‘gunning for him now” that I care about. They, on the Hill in the WH, no matter which party, are gunning for all of us.

2. aemd - 1 October 2009

Hey, hey Ms. Cat. Here’s a little article I found interesting. The article is long and gets into market forecasting but is well worth a read.


“For U.S trade partners like Japan, the U.S. has been like a very large and important customer that delivers most of the revenue to a goods manufacturer. Endlessly demanding, at times irrational and occasionally dangerous, our behavior was tolerated for one and only one reason: we, the customer, always placed our order by the end of the quarter. All was forgiven.

Then the 2008 crisis came. We, as a major customer to our global trade partners, have always been difficult to do business with, but at least we were worth it for the orders, even if they had to provide much of the financing. But since U.S. consumer demand for imports fell off a cliff last year, we’re not worth the trouble.”

Another excerpt that ties into comments in your last post

“The average American doesn’t know how to be intelligently skeptical. They lack the tools. Their schooling taught them to believe what they read in the paper and watch on TV and are told by anyone in a uniform or anyone who makes more money than they do. For example, the mortgage broker in a suit who told them not to worry about exaggerating income in order to qualify for a ridiculously huge mortgage. You can say these people were stupid for trusting the brokers and the appraisers and the lawyers and all of the other conspirators to the gigantic fraud that came to be known as the housing bubble, including the media that used to quote the National Association of Realtors as a source of information about the safety of housing as an investment. That’s journalism? But who is the public supposed to trust? No one? So now the public doesn’t trust anyone. Why should they? But in the wake of these frauds they lack the tools necessary for critical evaluation of even the most basic data about their economy, never mind complicated issues like monetary policy, inflation, and employment. In this environment guys like Glenn Beck and Alex Jones thrive. ”


“When the people lose faith, they do not then believe in nothing. They believe in anything. Between an oligarchic government controlled media and a public unable to distinguish between an argument made on evidence and one based on speculation, I believe we are heading into an era of rising nationalism and unreason unlike anything we have seen since the 1930s. The antecedents are exceedingly dangerous. Our polity can be whipped up into a frenzy to do just about anything.”

marisacat - 1 October 2009

how are you doing?!!

And bingo:

“When the people lose faith, they do not then believe in nothing. They believe in anything. Between an oligarchic government controlled media and a public unable to distinguish between an argument made on evidence and one based on speculation, I believe we are heading into an era of rising nationalism and unreason unlike anything we have seen since the 1930s. The antecedents are exceedingly dangerous. Our polity can be whipped up into a frenzy to do just about anything.”

Thanks for the link!

aemd - 1 October 2009

I’m muddlin’ through but have been able to keep my head above the water so far, unlike many less fortunate. These confusing and unstable times make it hard to, well, make good decisions. Oh hell, make any decision, good or bad. I waver, daily, on if what I’m hearing is a dying gasp or a second wind of the Empire. 😉

I’m very worried, on a personal level, about this health insurance bill. To be very honest, if I’m forced, by law, to buy health insurance I will not be able to afford health care. Sounds crazy but the money ain’t there for both. Very worrisome. Jebus, I hope the bill tanks.

marisacat - 1 October 2009

I agree.. it is a mess, sold out and all but scuttled from day one….it has gone pretty much as I expected.

I heard a good description of what is coming, “find the equivalent of the rent money, for health care, every month” or be penalised. The subsidy levels drop… and the penalties go up. 2x poverty last I heard, and around a thousand for a single person, almost 4k for a fmaily, last I heard.

Many montsh ago I caught a leftischer consumer advocate on local radio, who said the only items REALLY under discussion in DC were that by 2012 or so people will have to prove coverage on the IRS form… and how much to make the penalites. ALL the rest is just dressing…

And I will mention that while Miss Hillary took hell (rightfully so) for droppign the bomb of “wage garnishment” in a debate, St John Edwards of the Holy Babeeee (and impending sex tape, I would bet anything) had actually dropped it earlier.

What a fucking nightmare we are in.

I think to quickly and incrementally walk Medicare back to age 50 would do more than ANYTHING on any table in DC.

marisacat - 1 October 2009

speaking of which (full text)


The White House struck out Thursday at health care critics who argue that a fine on Americans without health insurance …

… would constitute a new tax on the middle class.
“I think this is, again, one more game that we’ve seen,” Gibbs said, dismissing suggestions that the proposal could violate President Obama’s pledge not to raise taxes on Americans making less than $200,000 per year.

Comparing the proposed penalty to a speeding ticket, Gibbs said it is hard to argue that by getting punished for “going too fast on the interstate that somebody’s somehow raised your taxes.

“I think that’s a silly argument,” he added.

The health care bill proposed by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) would impose a fine on Americans who do not buy health insurance. The text of Baucus’s legislation refers to the penalty as a tax.

I noticed yesterday Ann Althouse, who voted for Ob, is up in arms over this (or specifically, taxing “cadillac” coverage as a cash benefit). I have read that some levels at G-Saxe have HC as a benefit that runs 40K a year. Yeah tax that… but not decent coverage that ordinary working Americans have…

Ob has always been shakey on that “promise” about taxes and the break point – which keeps shifting… quite aside from thsi whole mess…

marisacat - 1 October 2009

yeah… and I like the pic they use of L Summers…. AND the comment about Hunter Thompson… 😉

3. marisacat - 1 October 2009

pauvre petit Sully.

[H]ow did the US get into a situation that destroyed the last global empire? I know why, of course. That was where al Qaeda was based when 19 men with not even a single bomb were able to murder thousands in America. We went there to prevent another. [Poor Sully!] I supported it fanatically. But all these years later, I can’t help wondering if it was a giant trap. If someone had told me that the US would occupy Afghanistan for eight years and launch a huge counter-terrorism operation across the globe and still not have captured Osama bin Laden, and watched as al Qaeda built a new base in liberated Iraq (since cornered at enormous expense) and Pakistan (still very much alive), and elsewhere around the globe, I would have been incredulous. . . . . . . .

Tho I am not going to grant any entity, AQ or other, such automatically assumed global power. Power of BLOWBACK? Arising, as Chalmers Johnson says, from secret actions taken by the US… That, yes.

Good Luck.

catnip - 1 October 2009

Well, the “if I’d only known” type of buyer’s remorse unfortunately comes after how many civilians have been tortured and killed? That’s why people need to think before supporting any war.

I would have been incredulous. .

Flowers & candy thinking.

marisacat - 1 October 2009

oh he is such an idiot.

4. marisacat - 1 October 2009

whew. Jeralyn on the war path…

And her “update” post (I’ve not read any of the thread to this one yet)………………. as the prosecutor who contributed to the 2008 movie on the whole lousy event… is changing his story (Marcia Clark has a piece over at Daily Beast for anyone interested)

catnip - 1 October 2009

Jeralyn’s in the “it wasn’t rape rape” Whoopi club.

He was never found guilty of raping a child (5.00 / 1) (#67)
by Jeralyn on Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 12:34:27 PM EST

The rape charge was dismissed. His guilty plea was to unlawful intercourse with a person under 18 who was not his wife. Period. If you insist on making false statements, your comments will be deleted.

catnip - 1 October 2009

And the thing is that I haven’t see any of his defenders say (not that I’ve read or seen all that they’re claiming) is that even if they believe there was judicial misconduct, Polanski could (or should) have just stuck around and appealed (in the courts and/or in public) what he saw as being unjust. He had the mean$ to do that. The system isn’t perfect but the fact that he took off and decided to defend his case from a distance didn’t do him or anyone any good.

(Although I admit to having a different bias when it comes to soldiers contesting being in an illegal war. I believe other countries should provide sanctuary in those cases.)

marisacat - 1 October 2009

well he pled guilty to unlawful sex iwth a minor under 14.

I notice somehwere in that thread she tries to use “18” and no one corrected her…

14 is a big bright line in Cali… we have long long long had an “emancipated minor” law, as of the age of 14, whereby a minor can go to court and petition to be declared just that. AND it seems to fulfill our standard of pre pubescent w/r/t sex issues.

By now I think this should jsut blow big and end up in court in Cali. Ain’t NOBODY going to come out of this looking good. The text of her testimony before the GJ is extremely painful to read.. but she tells it very badly over the past years.

So hey, everybody in court. We love those out here and Court TV can rev up. Cable, international media. Hey it could end the global recession.

Go for it.

catnip - 1 October 2009

I like to think I am in neither camp (none / 0) (#30)
by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 01, 2009 at 10:19:56 AM EST
I am not particularly pro-criminal defendants, though I like to think I support due process.

Hell, I am the guy who believe we can have a preventive detention regime, so long as courts are involved.

I hate celebrity justice stories.

And to say the allegations and evidence against Polanski disgust me, as a father of 15 and 11 year old girls, is an understatement. As a father, if it was my daughter, I would not have waited for extradition, they would be extraditing me for what I did where ever Polanski was.

But that is not justice or policy. That is personal and visceral. And criminal.

But since it is NOT my daughter, and it happened 30 years ago, it is far enough removed for me to be able to discuss the issue of whether someone should be allowed to make a motion to dismiss in absentia.

I am unpersuaded by the arguments forwarded for why that should not be allowed.

Preventative detention? How Democratic of him.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 October 2009

he always was a fucking authoritarian.

marisacat - 1 October 2009

I bet anything he would just call it Protective Father Complex.


5. catnip - 1 October 2009

As for Michelle pimping for the Olympics in Chicago, it’s a well-known phenomenon that cities do whatever they can to sweep the poor off the streets in preparation for those games. It’s currently happening in Vancouver. So I don’t see how she thinks the Olympics would help any poor children in Chicago. They might get the chance to wave a few ribbons but that’s about it. The poor always get the shaft when, as she puts it, “power” is that close at hand.

And is she daft?

There’s good security by my house these days.

WTF does that have to do with anything?

marisacat - 1 October 2009

oh she doesn’t think the Olympics will help poor children. Far from it.

it’s a schtick.

And there are already reports in the Chicago media how areas needed for gentrification (housing units for temporary rental, later other things, etc) will be cleared thru taxes and or loss of services to thsoe areas.

Yeah old news.

She and Ob ar corporate hacks… nothing more.

6. marisacat - 1 October 2009

Pepe Escobar is out with more on “Pipelineistan”

7. catnip - 1 October 2009

Congress approves tripling aid to Pakistan

The bill, approved by a voice vote in the House, would provide Pakistan with $1.5 billion in aid a year over the next five years focused on democratic, economic and social development programs.

The aid would seek to strengthen Pakistan’s legislative and judicial systems; its public education system, emphasizing access for women and girls; its health care system; and its human rights practices with particular attention to women as well as ethnic and religious minorities.

The legislation also authorizes “such sums as are necessary” for military assistance to Pakistan, while conditioning that aid or arms transfers on several conditions. Those include certification that Pakistan is cooperating in stopping the proliferation of nuclear weapons, that Pakistan is making a sustained commitment to combating terrorist groups and that Pakistan security forces are not subverting the country’s political or judicial processes.

Good luck with that.

8. marisacat - 1 October 2009

Whoopi clarifies… apparently she called into the Today Show …

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 October 2009

Banned Books Week and “most challenged titles” of 2008!

1. And Tango Makes Three, by Justin Richardson and Peter Parnell
Reasons: anti-ethnic, anti-family, homosexuality, religious viewpoint, and unsuited to age group

2. His Dark Materials trilogy, by Philip Pullman
Reasons: political viewpoint, religious viewpoint, and violence

3. TTYL; TTFN; L8R, G8R (series), by Lauren Myracle
Reasons: offensive language, sexually explicit, and unsuited to age group

4. Scary Stories (series) , by Alvin Schwartz
Reasons: occult/satanism, religious viewpoint, and violence

5. Bless Me, Ultima, by Rudolfo Anaya
Reasons: occult/satanism, offensive language, religious viewpoint, sexually explicit, and violence

6. The Perks of Being a Wallflower, by Stephen Chbosky
Reasons: drugs, homosexuality, nudity, offensive language, sexually explicit, suicide, and unsuited to age group

7. Gossip Girl (series), by Cecily von Ziegesar
Reasons: offensive language, sexually explicit, and unsuited to age group

8. Uncle Bobby’s Wedding, by Sarah S. Brannen
Reasons: homosexuality and unsuited to age group

9. The Kite Runner, by Khaled Hosseini
Reasons: offensive language, sexually explicit, and unsuited to age group

10. Flashcards of My Life, by Charise Mericle Harper
Reasons: sexually explicit and unsuited to age group

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 October 2009

Military Heat Weapon Being Developed for Use by American Police Forces.

A powerful hand-held weapon being developed by the Pentagon could end up in police hands, says a report in a UK science journal.

The Pentagon’s Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate has been developing the Thermal Laser System since 2005, with the purpose of developing a weapon that could disperse crowds or incapacitate individuals by causing them to experience burning sensations in their skin.

According to NewScientist magazine, the weapon has evolved into a rifle-mounted instrument, and there are plans for a hand-held model that could be used by police forces.

marisacat - 1 October 2009

I suppose for live testing in Colombia or Haiti. The depths of our desires in various parts of Africa… and so on.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 October 2009

no doubt … make sure they get the kinks worked out before the next nominating conventions.

catnip - 1 October 2009

a weapon that could disperse crowds or incapacitate individuals by causing them to experience burning sensations in their skin.

Wear sunscreen.

11. BooHooHooMan - 1 October 2009

NJ Gov debate getting underway now @ 8 PM EST.
Available live onlinehere via NJN (PBS afill) ….FWIW. 🙄

{ Firing up popcorn, setting up rack of perfectly chuckable shoes by chair}

BooHooHooMan - 1 October 2009

Glaring problem with Corzine in this debate:
He’s always speaking in Profile. The moron hasn’t looked directly into the camera. Unreal. Does the guy realize he’s ON TEEE VEEE?

BooHooHooMan - 1 October 2009

( Don’t worry ya’ll….I m not going to blab away about this.)

marisacat - 1 October 2009

fine if you do…………………… 😉

marisacat - 1 October 2009

Corzine is afraid of the camera… I saw that years ago when he would face a camera in the halls outside congress. He always looked away or down.

Pissed me off royally frankly.

AND I saw his debate several years ago. He managed to win the election but he swam in flop sweat thru the “debate”. The Republican almost laughed out loud.

BooHooHooMan - 1 October 2009

It just finished . Corzine got eaten alive. Didn’t face the camera till closing statement and still was Ants in the Pants, then did a (cooked) numbers litany. We’re on the Move! 🙄

Daggett- Candid.. Is going to eat into Corzines numbers. and keep the stray Dems… His pitch……Lower taxes …Sales tax Sales tax. Interesting how he clarified ..Keep the rate the same Expand it into Professional Services
, …he used the phrase “Services likely to be used by higher incomes…”…though he has said for Legal/ Accounting /Architectural etc…FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS? Oooo. Unapologetic Pro- Choice..Sign Med MJ. Direct Answers on Both.

Christie – was direct. Always into the Camera even when – LOL directly dodging Teen Pregnancy, Choice…
He came off well, tho…Has been spotty in his presentation…Hammered on Corzine Corzine. Taxes Corruption. Then more Corzine Corzine Corzine. It will sell. Nope to Gay Marriage, One Man One Woman…Touted his Law Enforcement “concerns” with Med MJ said he’d sign a Bill if it was Strengthend …

My takeaway…..Corzine VERY Defensive. Daggett took the debate…
Advantage Christie still..

BooHooHooMan - 1 October 2009

Oh this is Good. .. this Daggett piece.

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 October 2009

Cities Too Poor To Bury Dead

what a sick joke this country is.

marisacat - 2 October 2009



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