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Monday…. 26 October 2009

Posted by marisacat in DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Pakistan, WAR!.

Rawalpindi, Pakistan: A woman holds a baby and firewood as she walks in a slum Photograph: Nicolas Asfouri/AFP/Getty Images

This certainly sounds like what is happening… via Counterpunch:

Now Pakistan


A conspiratorial view of the world is frequently inaccurate, exposing more the paranoia of the view rather than the reality of the world. The sequential destruction of Muslim nations — Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, (and Iran is on the list) — may or may not be a conspiracy hatched in Washington D.C., but it is becoming an international reality.  It is no secret that the United States and Europe, with varying degree of mutual cooperation and some make-believe internal discord, superintend the sequential destruction of Muslim nations. This War of Sequential Destruction (WSD), despite Nobel-Laureate Barack Obama’s denials, refuses to go away.

The WSD is multi-frontal. It crosshairs Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, Hamas, Al-Bashir,  Ahmadinejad, Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, Gaza, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan, and now Pakistan. Many Western policymakers rarely see Muslim nations, including allies, with any inherent respect.  Vice President Dick Cheney described the Muslim world as “brute and nasty.” Obama advisers, though more guarded in their word choices, see Muslim nations no differently. The idea that Islam is inherently violent, openly expressed during the Bush administration, continues to animate foreign policy. The White House holds a new President but Congressional leadership and Washington policymakers are more or less the same. Anti-Islamic policies of warfare and destabilization are intact.  . . . .

A bit more… and I must say these two graphs are a depressing read, not that it is anything new in the long, drawn out colonial war games:

After razing Iraq and Afghanistan, the WSD has now turned to ravage an ally, Muslim Pakistan. Pakistan is a nation that the British, in 1947, carved out of India and that India, in 1971, broke into two, liberating Bangladesh from the murderous clutch of the Pakistani military. Over the past sixty-two years, Pakistan’s military and civilian rulers, one after the other, and without exception, have turned to America for military training, weapons, money, and strategic instructions. Eager to send their sons and daughters to Western cities for education and employment, Pakistani politicians, generals, and bureaucrats all look for ways, and create the ways, to oblige Western capitals, particularly Washington D.C. Partly for personal interests and partly out of faulty readings of geopolitical situations, Pakistani rulers, like most rulers in Muslim nations, frequently compromise national sovereignty and public welfare.

The Pakistani orientation for self-destruction serves American interests. Facing a failing campaign in Afghanistan, Obama advisers decided to expand the war into Waziristan and other parts of Pakistan. The United States desperately solicited the Pakistani military to join the Afghan war. Pakistani rulers, this time a democratically elected government, listened to the American call. They first permitted the CIA to fly drones armed with missiles, which killed a few militants but hundreds of civilians in the tribal areas. The United States later urged Pakistan to invade Swat to kill militants. Pakistan did. Millions of civilians were made homeless. . . . . .

And this:

Under coercion, Pakistan has started a civil war that will consume its economy, national security, and tear apart its social fabric. The civil war will spill into many parts of Pakistan. It already has arrived in some parts of Punjab. Militants are unlikely to confine this war to sparsely-populated Waziristan. They are taking the war to the most populated cities, including Peshawar, Rawalpindi, and Lahore. Karachi, which appears to be quiet, is sitting on a tinderbox. Karachi can erupt any minute as its ethnic rivalries are primed for a civil war. It is sheer foolery and a grave analytical mistake to presume that the Pakistani military offensive will provoke no one but only a few misguided militants in the North. . . . . .



1. catnip - 26 October 2009

Einstein must be rolling over in his grave: Parents offered refunds on Baby Einstein videos

Parents who feel duped by claims that Baby Einstein videos were brain boosters for their infants and toddlers can now get a refund for old merchandise from The Walt Disney Company.

The company has agreed to cough up the cash through an extended DVD return policy after a lengthy campaign by a coalition of educators and parents, who complained Disney’s marketing materials implied their videos for babies under two years of age were beneficial for cognitive development.

Disney – screwing over infants. Walt must be rolling over in his grave too.

2. marisacat - 26 October 2009

Snippet from The Page (hosanna Obama, I guess!)

After a sub-par summer and even October, new Suffolk University survey has the incumbent up big.

Poll reports he leads Christie 42%-33% among likely voters.

marisacat - 26 October 2009

Then again frm the Wapo (BHHM linked to the same one last night):

“I think a lot of people felt that he used his money, his own personal money, in ways that are not appropriate,” said Marlene Carlson, a retired teacher among several thousand Democrats at a rally last week headlined by President Obama, who urged voters not to blame the governor for the weak economy. The last Democratic governor to serve during a recession, James J. Florio, was swept out of office in 1993 on a wave of anger very much like the one facing Corzine.

“Virtually identical,” Florio said in an interview. “But this recession is worse. The situation he’s had in terms of deficits makes the problems I was dealing with look like pocket change.”

So….. up in the air I guess… a cliffhanger? Saved by Ob stories being written?

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 October 2009
4. marisacat - 26 October 2009

John Judis in The New Republic wonders if Cali is – gasp – heave – weep! – …. finished…………….

[B]ut could California’s days as a politico-cultural vanguard and economic bellwether be coming to an end? The state has endured swings and has come back better than ever. Writing in 1949, with unemployment at 14 percent, McWilliams questioned whether California exceptionalism had finally come to an end, but, with the onset of the cold war, Southern California benefited from an aerospace boom. Again, in the early 1990s, California seemed to be falling into a black hole: Cutbacks in military spending decimated the state’s defense industries, and, by the end of 1992, unemployment was 9.9 percent, 2.5 points higher than the national rate; that year, Kemper Securities rated California’s economy fifty-first in investment prospects among the 50 states and the District of Columbia. But the growth of dot-coms, a global entertainment industry, and biotech led its rebound.

Last month, California’s unemployment rate hit 12.2 percent, a 70-year high. Its bond rating is the lowest of the 50 states. Earlier, the state government had to issue IOUs. Its political system–once the envy of other states–has become dysfunctional. And its educational system, which former University of California president Clark Kerr described as “bait to be dangled in front of industry,” is riven by conflict and reeling from budget cuts. Is this déjà vu all over again, or has the California dream finally become a nightmare? There are troubling signs. . . . .

5. marisacat - 26 October 2009

hmm I dunno honey… but I think it is YOU with whiplash and not the dissidents and disbelievers like moi.

http://www.americablog.com/ (entry rides at the top)

[Y]et today we find out that the White House isn’t pushing at all, because they claim that Harry Reid hasn’t asked them to, but they plan on pushing once Reid finally lines up the votes. Then why did Jarrett say on Friday that the White House was already pushing, if we now find out that they’re not?

And, you know, as a former aide to Ted Stevens and a long(ish) time operative, Aravosis doesn’t believe much of anything EITHER.

6. marisacat - 26 October 2009

Roubini sees a correction, a crash…………. a blip on our boundless joy horizon. How dare he.

[I]U.com:You’ve been clear that you think most assets are currently overvalued. Do you think there are opportunities for investors in certain asset classes or certain geographies?

Roubini: Well, there is a wall of liquidity chasing assets. That liquidity can chase those assets higher for the time being until the huge carry trade—the asset bubble and the wall of liquidity—comes crashing down. You can still have all the risky assets going higher. Of course, the higher they go, the more they diverge from fundamentals, and the riskier the situation becomes. But eventually, if the recovery of the economy is going to be anemic, sub-par, below-trend and U-shaped, there is going to be a correction. And therefore my view is to stay away from risky assets. Stay in liquid assets. I don’t know when the correction is going to occur, it could be a while longer, but eventually it will be a pretty ugly correction, across many different asset classes . . . . .

7. marisacat - 26 October 2009

Too cute. But really, now, shouldn’t the fountains be all pinked up as well? Like they did on St Patty’s Day, green water in the WH fountains?


Things can always get worse. And more cartoonish.

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 October 2009

Predator Drones Now Defend Commercial Shipping

Hellenic Shipping News: In an effort to stem the surge, unmanned U.S. military surveillance planes called MQ-9 Reapers stationed on the island nation of Seychelles are being deployed to patrol the Indian Ocean in search of pirates, Moeller told The Associated Press in an interview at command headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany. The patrols began this week, military officials said.

The 36-foot-long Reapers are the size of a jet fighter, can fly about 16 hours and are capable of carrying a dozen guided bombs and missiles. They are outfitted with infrared, laser and radar targeting.

Military officials said Friday the drones would not immediately be fitted with weaponry, but they did not rule out doing so in the future.

Analysts said they expected the Reapers would also be used to hunt al-Qaida and other Islamist militants in Somalia. While Moeller said the aircraft would “primarily” be used against pirates, he acknowledged they could also be used for other missions.

marisacat - 26 October 2009

Military officials said Friday the drones would not immediately be fitted with weaponry, but they did not rule out doing so in the future.

oh please! What are they waiting for? Twin Gatling guns! Chop chop. Where is the US Coast Guard, with their Canadian border boats with the 50 mm guns?

What it has always been about, access commerce trade. Pity people have to die for it, either side.

It reminds me of that incident a few years ago, when the British mil… Navy? Were semi kidnapped in the Straits of Hormuz… we were to rally for the valiant troops in extra-extra danger!. (hanky weep) But what they were doing was guarding shipping. Cars iirc.

And we wanted to impose OUR borders on the people who live there… when amongst themselves they have different ideas about their own borders.

Tally ho.

9. marisacat - 26 October 2009

Can they get LIMPER:

October 26, 2009

* Gay Politics

Mum on Prop. One

Attorney General Eric Holder declined to state an opinion on the Maine gay marriage appeal after a speech at the University of Maine, the campus paper reports.

He did muster the opinion that the Defense of Marriage Act “is not necessarily a good piece of legislation.”

Posted by Ben Smith 03:45 PM

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* post a comment
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Madman in the Marketplace - 26 October 2009

plainly a man of deepish convictions.


marisacat - 26 October 2009

😆 — deepishly deepish.

10. marisacat - 26 October 2009

I see Dagget is saying Christie won’t be winning.

===== >>>> Corzine up! story line: Saved By Ob.

Carry on!

11. marisacat - 26 October 2009

DEA agents among 14 Americans dead in Afghanistan

By ROBERT H. REID and HEIDI VOGT (AP) – 43 minutes ago

KABUL — A U.S. military helicopter crashed Monday while returning from the scene of a firefight with suspected Taliban drug traffickers in western Afghanistan, killing 10 Americans including three DEA agents in a not-so-noticed war within a war.

Four more troops were killed when two helicopters collided over southern Afghanistan, making it the deadliest day for U.S. forces in this country in more than four years.

U.S. military officials insisted neither crash was believed a result of hostile fire, although the Taliban claimed they shot down a U.S. helicopter in the western province of Badghis. The U.S. did not say where in western Afghanistan its helicopter went down, and no other aircraft were reported missing.

The second crash took place when two U.S. Marine helicopters — a UH-1 and an AH-1 Cobra — collided in flight before sunrise over the southern province of Helmand, killing four American troops and wounding two more, Marine spokesman Maj. Bill Pelletier said.

The casualties marked the Drug Enforcement Administration’s first deaths since it began operations here in 2005. Afghanistan is the world’s largest producer of opium — the raw ingredient in heroin — and the illicit drug trade is a major source of funding for insurgent groups.

The U.S. has decided to target production and distribution networks after programs to destroy poppy fields did little except turn farmers against the American-led NATO mission.

NATO said the helicopter containing the DEA agents was returning from a joint operation that targeted a compound used by insurgents involved in “narcotics trafficking in western Afghanistan.” [yeah right]

“During the operation, insurgent forces engaged the joint force and more than a dozen enemy fighters were killed in the ensuing firefight,” a NATO statement said.

Eleven Americans, including another DEA agent, and 14 Afghan security troops were wounded in the crash, NATO said. . . . . . . .

Madman in the Marketplace - 26 October 2009

war on everything, and everyone, forever and ever!

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 October 2009

Insurers poised to reap benefits from healthcare overhaul

The final bill may well reflect an industry group’s strategy of shaping universal coverage to benefit companies.

The specifics of the healthcare legislation are still being hashed out on Capitol Hill, and key details will evolve in the days ahead. Even so, there is broad agreement that the final plan will, for the first time, require Americans to buy health coverage, with taxpayer subsidies for millions who cannot afford it.

For the health insurance industry, that means millions of new paying customers. What’s more, there are likely to be no limits on what insurers can charge, while at the same time the plan is expected to limit competition from any new national government insurance plan that lawmakers create.

These anticipated wins — from an initiative that has at times been portrayed as doomsday for health insurers — is the result of a strategy developed by one of Washington’s savviest lobbyists, Karen Ignagni. Under Ignagni’s leadership, the industry group America’s Health Insurance Plans adopted the goal of universal coverage while setting out to shape it in a way that benefited insurers — a crucial move that aligned their interests with those of other groups, including consumers and hospitals.

Insurers poured campaign donations into the coffers of key sympathetic members of the House and Senate, and loaded up on lobbyists. And when Obama and other Democrats began attacking the industry, insurers made a strategic choice not to walk away from the negotiating table.

“While so many in this town have been playing checkers, Karen has been playing chess,” said Mark Merritt, a veteran lobbyist who heads the Pharmaceutical Care Management Assn.

In broad terms, the healthcare legislation is expected to require all Americans to purchase health insurance. Insurance companies, in turn, would be barred from canceling policies of sick people or denying coverage to those with preexisting conditions.

What’s still not clear is whether the legislation would create some form of a “public option,” or government insurance program, which health insurers steadfastly oppose.

In addition to fighting the public option, insurers that offer Medicare health maintenance organizations are battling more than $100 billion in cuts in federal payments to that program. And they are trying to beat back a move by Democrats to go after the industry’s decades-old exemption from antitrust law.

But in Washington, many marvel that lawmakers have not wrung more from an industry that, surveys show, is held in low regard by the public.

“The industry is really in no position to be making demands,” said Celinda Lake, a longtime Democratic pollster.

It’s not by accident.

For much of the last three years, industry leaders have been laying the groundwork for this battle. Amid horror stories about insurers dumping sick patients, denying coverage for medical treatment and cherry-picking customers, Ignagni and a few insurance company executives pushed the idea within America’s Health Insurance Plans that the industry risked political catastrophe if it did not move proactively.

“They knew they had a very big [public relations] problem, and they knew this day was coming,” said Wendell Potter, a Cigna Corp. public relations executive who quit last year. “They knew they had to be perceived as coming to the table with solutions. It was a departure from their previous point of view. But they knew they would be slaughtered if it weren’t.”

marisacat - 26 October 2009

I see the Dems want to push thru some soft no cost stuff by next year. … the boom will lower on 2013. AND I saw Krugman humping for the health care roll out. How lovely it will all be and slobbering for how great it has gone in MA.

Send him a collar and leash.

catnip - 26 October 2009

Harry Reid is suddenly a hero over at dkos. PO with opt-out. Yeah – there’s change you can believe in.

13. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 October 2009
14. Madman in the Marketplace - 26 October 2009

Internet Speeds and Costs Around the World, Shown Visually

Number one is, predictably, Japan, where the average broadband speed is 60mbps and they pay $0.27 per 1mbps. We, in comparison, average 4.8mbps and pay $3.33 per 1mbps, putting us at #15.

15. BooHooHooMan - 26 October 2009

New Jersey Governor 2009.

A whole lotta Herky Jerky goin on now,
right on schedule tho- as we have
the Battle of Pollster Reputation™ and a few other twists and turns as of late in the day..

The Pollster at Monmouth U is a guy named Patrick Murray …Monmouth’s Op generally considered *pretty *straight as this shit goes…

Anyways, turf protection in the Academic Polling scene aside.. Murray from Monmouth weighed in with some words of caution including a diplomatic yet highly critical assessment of the Suffolk Poll which was picked up at Politicker… Murray says the assumptions are skewed admits people into the likely voting pool to easily and is assuming a 97% turnout.

Murray’s account of it all is here.

The crux of it being that Unaffilliated voters shouldn’t be understood as lacking Partisan affinity or devoid of partisanship. I agree with that. What isn’t addressed …are a number of things from the political scene here that are hard to quantify in the aggregate. Many of the Unafilliated here are undeclared not on the basis of ideology, lack of delivery, or Had-The-Shits-of-Them-All types..
IOW, people like me on all three counts…LOL…so consider the source here, but, IMO, ..Most “Unafilliated” aka “Independent” decline being identified as partisans for work environment reasons, to avoid political machine demands , or if their County or Local Gov is dominated by the other half of the Donklephant Duopoly. That’s so whether they perceive it as a duoploy or not, most don’t, and like Murray’s take DO have Partisan afil…That said it’s Still a problem for Corzine if those leanings don’t break his way or there is low turnout among those who otherwise would lean Dem..

If anything, my view is consistent with Murray’s take about the volitility and assumptions made WRT Party ID…. My .02…..and that’s all it can be, as people won’t say “I’m really registered as____ so I don’t get rammed at ____” …..but my sense is there are more Republicans unafilliated than Dems in this Dem dominated state.FWIW…
..And that those Dem “leaners” among the “Unafilliated” after the 2008 Historic HooHaare are unreliable for Corzine, will either stay home, or if they head out , will be looking elsewhere come Election Day..

I see the handful of hacks that is “Blue Jersey” online- the whole 3 on 3 pickup team of them –
they have a take on Murray’s Piece, not surprisingly without his reservations regarding the Suffolk Poll.. And while citing it , they miss the implications it has on Daggets Flake rate, and more importantly, the hoped-for-assist from “Dems-in-Indy- Clothing” who will supposedly “come home” on Election Day..

This is Monmouth Pollster Murray as cited by the minor operatives at Blue Jersey….

2. Registered unaffiliated voters are less likely to actually vote:

Last year, unaffiliated voters made up 38% of the electorate even though they comprised 47% of registered voters. In other words, while more than 8-in-10 registered Republican and Democratic voters showed up last November, only 6-in-10 unaffiliated voters turned out.

This disparity is even larger in non-presidential years (i.e. like this year). In the 2006 election for U.S. Senate, about 7-in-10 registered partisans showed up, but only 1-in-3 unaffiliateds did. And that was when unaffiliated voters made up 58% of the voter rolls. My guess is that many of those folks probably voted in the 2008 presidential primary and are now registered with a party. Therefore, I wouldn’t be surprised if the unaffiliated turnout is even lower this year.

Back to the National Implications.

So there you have it. Again it comes down to Dagget . Does he get too much, too little, or “just right” in the Three Bear splits? Of course it can be perceived sand plausibly argued that lower Independent turnout would naturally advantage Dems, leaving it more of a straight up Dem v Repub match-up in a “Strong Blue” State. Fair Enough, I say. The State then, is Dem as Dem can Be. Run with it. Which they are. Everything should be A-okay come Election Day! .And that Dagget will take the pissed off R away more than Pissed off D . And that Dems have a reliable machine, no problems, still runnin strong. Welp™ all I can say… is if you go there, AND LOSE..what can you possibly say after the Loss?

So I noticed this though…LATE….

They are “willing to let” ..LOVE IT

Democrats willing to let faithful see Obama, even if it takes away from GOTV effort

And Corzine blogger “Hopeful” (how Ironic) ..
one of the Nervous Nellies at Blue Jersey put this up on the BJ RSS feed late today..

PPP says Christie’s attacks on Daggett are working (Hopeful)
Their poll will be out tomorrow, but for now:

Some folks thought it was a little odd when Chris Christie went on the air with negative ads against independent candidate Chris Daggett a few weeks ago but it seems to have been a good idea.

Two weeks ago Daggett’s fav/unfav was 30/24. Now it’s 31/36. And Daggett’s negative rating with Republicans has increased by 16 points, compared to 6 among Democrats.

Daggett has the same level of support he did two weeks ago, but now he seems to be hurting Jon Corzine more than Christie.


Also, this….on the Front Page of NJ.com…
Gov. Corzine says using ‘weight’ in Christie ad was poor word choice

The Dems were pounding Christie as Pro Breast Cancer and…That he’s Fat. A real brilliant Houle-esque move. Which teed up a GOP pivot that allowed Christie to personalize the campaign..Mom with Breast Cancer..Corzine Camp as petty…Why don’t they just hire Dana Houle for Womens Outreach?

marisacat - 26 October 2009

97% turn out. Geesh.

“willing to let the faithful see Obama”… do they get to touch the hem as well?

BooHooHooMan - 26 October 2009

The Good News?

I won’t post another word about it tonight! LOL.

16. BooHooHooMan - 26 October 2009

Making the rounds…
LOL. Glenn Greenwald just backed the Big Orange Tour Bus right over Moulitsas’ Obama Groupies

As a result, Obama-venerating readers of Daily Kos this morning have declared Huffington Post to be suspect, untrustworthy, and even “right-wing” in a top recommended diary. A poll accompanying that dairy finds that 57% of readers believe that Huffington Post — which just recently hired Dan Froomkin as its Washington Bureau Chief — “is turning conservative.” In other words, Huffington Post reported on facts which reflect poorly on the leader and which contradict what they are eager to believe. Anyone who does that must be discredited, impugned and declared to be the enemy. That way, the unpleasant facts can be dismissed away by attacking those who point them out, and fantasies of the leader can be blissfully maintained. Doesn’t that also sound familiar?

They no likey..Members of the Odd Sect speak out..

Greenwald – Daily Kos Embarrassing Itself Today
by Freiheit


BooHooHooMan - 26 October 2009

All I can say is
where’s a bloody Stalinist Purge when you need it?
And they’re not even Stalinists! Who Cares?!? LOL.
May the Paranoia and Purges BEGIN!

marisacat - 26 October 2009

hmmm a few years ago when the rightie blogs were going after GG hard… basically for being homosexual… but they did have a small hook, in his CV he had claimed to be an associate, a full associate, at a NYC law firm, where he had in fact only been a summer law student… (can’t remember what year of law school)… a “summer associate”.

But I noticed at the time not a single solitary Lib Dem Blahg nor Blahgger stood up for him or defended him. In any way.

Payback’s a bitch.

BooHooHooMan - 26 October 2009

It reminds me of that malformed piece of shit, Melrath.
AKA Delaware Dem.
Only 12 sanctioned him,

even *fewer went after him.

Yep “…the Leading Lib Lib Liberalish Blog”
Not a bad spot …….to throw poo.

17. BooHooHooMan - 27 October 2009

Awww. Poor Rosi Efthim @ Blue Jersey.

with the Charlie Chan / Asian American Stereotyping…
Right out of….the BLUE?

News Roundup & Open Thread for Monday, Oct.26, 2009


With 6 you get eggroll

Hoboken has had 6 mayoral elections in 2.5 years.

Oh sure . Big Joke…Democratic Mayor after Democratic Mayor Indicted for Corruption and it’s laugh it off with — how can you put it? – an OUT OF THE BLUE or shall we say LEFT FIELD stereotype at Asian Americans..Not attached to any satire or snark or playing OFF stereotypes in an on topic post – just gratuitous slop.

I’m sure the world class surgeons I worked with from China who are fluent English and six other languages will get a real kick out of this. Not to mention my friends in the Benevolent Society.


psst …Oh and Rosi and and Jason and Jeff ?
All you SUBSIDIZED RETAINERS and Adam you Financial Industry Dem Blogwhore Jackass you…all of you running your scam of being “grassroots”?

I took screenshots of the whole thing in case your tempted to delete it.




And Snarking about who’s got the “brilliant” strategy. You fucking jerks. LOL.

Sunday anti-ME rallies (4.00 / 1)
Yeah, it’s a brilliant strategy. The church folks roll right out of the pews and down to the Statehouse – most of them are from Trenton, I would guess, since the group I’ve seen doing this in the past were largely African-American, and some of the most popular evangelical churches in town are walking distance to the state house. And of course, it’s West State Street on a Sunday – meaning that there is NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, within five blocks of the State House, so you can have your little rally without fear of a counter demonstration. And, since it seems these events are only announced from the pulpit (anyone see any other news about this), there are no counter demonstrators. Overall, it’s harmless, like paranoids talking to themselves …

OOPS. ( screen shot of that , too, bubba and bubbettes…Which will be sent out in a blast email to the trenton Congregations…ya know..just tryin to be helpful and get out the word, all that the good work you’re doin on the Dem Farm , there…)

don’t underestimate them (4.00 / 1)
Len Deo and Gerald Cardinale are pretty well organized. I commented about the statehouse rallies from the past before I looked at the pictures – this Sunday’s event was a somewhat more geographically and ethnically diverse group that were at the statehouse in late 2007 when they last held such an event (in opposition to an at-that-point non-existent bill). But I wouldn’t say the crowd was any bigger in total.

When the hearing begin, we (the progressive and LBGTI communities) will need to be on the ‘phone, at the Statehouse and on the street in record numbers – like, 2-1 ratio (my humble opinion) to the opposition.

GSE and the New Jersey Lesbian and Gay Coalition brought out a lot of people in 2006 for the civil union hearings and votes; we’ll need double that now. I’m sure you’ll be hearing from GSE as their plans roll out. So, everyone, this is one of those times when taking a day off for justice will be the right choice (and you can get some holiday shopping done before or after 🙂

If you do come to Trenton for a rally, keep in mind that signs on sticks are not permitted – cardboard signs you can hold in your hands and big banners you can hold aloft with a friend are best. TV crews LOVE rainbow flags! GSE is very good at providing lots of signs but I’m personally kinda fond of DIY messages. But leave the sticks and poles at home, the State Police will politely but firmly tell you to lose ’em, and I guess I don’t blame them – they would be target one if anyone decides to start poking about.

by: denniscmcgrath @ Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11:17 AM CDT

This I know. (4.00 / 1)
I have a lot of confidence in GSE and other civil rights organizations’ ability to demonstrate real support, because (a) I know the support is there in NJ and (b) we’ve both participated in and helped call for that support. And you can fairly hear the air crackle with anticipation for it.

What I’m waiting to see is who the other side can bring out, given that their side is increasingly marginalized as religion-based primarily and out of step with how most people are coming to see things.

by: Rosi Efthim @ Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 10:25:27 AM CDT

Not when YOUR Patrons Give THEM more MONEY


whatever they’ve got, they’re going to bring it (4.00 / 1)
including money from out of state. now’s not a bad time to consider making a donation to GSE … or to Blue Jersey!
by: denniscmcgrath @ Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 11:25:59 AM CDT

KEEP BEGGING. See how far that get’s ya.
Send us a… ……..Donation
Oh no, honey, I don’t have money for THAT.
What I gave in BACK IN 2006 went to
all those Pwogwessives we elected..
Now isn’t that Special.
But I’ll Trryyyyyy™ and help.
I’m Always Tryyyyyyinin™ to be Helpful.
Ring a Bell?

“… hardened professionals and their primary strength lies in their being completely unconflicted.”

“… the primary difference is that on the level of criticizing other blogs and bloggers, they can actually do some damage.”

“… Not what I look for in a liberal blog product.”

– peeder – MLW, Daily Rant [3.24.07]

LOL. Rosi Efthim. Too Funny. No Rosi. It’s not “F” THEM

marisacat - 27 October 2009

hmm I found tht stuff from peeder very odd, back when he posted it — and still. I may be opinionated, but the last thing i am is professional.

😆 — at anything… much less politics.

BooHooHooMan - 27 October 2009

Odd, hilarious…and ironic…coming from peeder.. the DK consultant…ANY of those in it for a dime calling themselves grassroots…Of the Box Car Blogs in the Dem online choo choo train, The Blue Jersey cubbyhole tho is really pathetic…utter denial that the same money pool that they depend on for patronage and plies them with campaign promises… is selling them out cold at the same time. Jersey has civil unions but ME won’t Pass. Put it this way, If on the miracle it does , Ob and the National Dems will work against it. …the very “Rock Stars” they keep clap clap clapping for …the ones they “are let” to see…. 🙄

18. marisacat - 27 October 2009

Makes perfect sense (via Laura Rozen at Politico):

When Matthew Hoh joined the Foreign Service early this year, he was exactly the kind of smart civil-military hybrid the administration was looking for to help expand its development efforts in Afghanistan.

But last month, in a move that has sent ripples all the way to the White House, Hoh, 36, became the first U.S. official known to resign in protest over the Afghan war, which he had come to believe simply fueled the insurgency.

“I have lost understanding of and confidence in the strategic purposes of the United States’ presence in Afghanistan,” he wrote Sept. 10 in a four-page letter to the department’s head of personnel. “I have doubts and reservations about our current strategy and planned future strategy, but my resignation is based not upon how we are pursuing this war, but why and to what end.”

The reaction to Hoh’s letter was immediate. Senior U.S. officials, concerned that they would lose an outstanding officer and perhaps gain a prominent critic, appealed to him to stay. ….

Many Afghans, he wrote in his resignation letter, are fighting the United States largely because its troops are there — a growing military presence in villages and valleys where outsiders, including other Afghans, are not welcome and where the corrupt, U.S.-backed national government is rejected. While the Taliban is a malign presence, and Pakistan-based al-Qaeda needs to be confronted, he said, the United States is asking its troops to die in Afghanistan for what is essentially a far-off civil war. …

19. marisacat - 27 October 2009


I see Politico has a story that Liberals are turning to Ob to vent their frustration. (now that Reid is faking it for PO… or hard trigger or or … whatever)…

I say to “liberals”, DUCK!, ‘cuz brioche, tossed by a well decked out – post modern – post racial – post partisan shepherdess, is headed your way. (mind the sheep poo as well… )


20. Madman in the Marketplace - 27 October 2009

U.S. official resigns over Afghan war

When Matthew Hoh joined the Foreign Service early this year, he was exactly the kind of smart civil-military hybrid the administration was looking for to help expand its development efforts in Afghanistan.

A former Marine Corps captain with combat experience in Iraq, Hoh had also served in uniform at the Pentagon, and as a civilian in Iraq and at the State Department. By July, he was the senior U.S. civilian in Zabul province, a Taliban hotbed.

But last month, in a move that has sent ripples all the way to the White House, Hoh, 36, became the first U.S. official known to resign in protest over the Afghan war, which he had come to believe simply fueled the insurgency.

“I have lost understanding of and confidence in the strategic purposes of the United States’ presence in Afghanistan,” he wrote Sept. 10 in a four-page letter to the department’s head of personnel. “I have doubts and reservations about our current strategy and planned future strategy, but my resignation is based not upon how we are pursuing this war, but why and to what end.”

21. catnip - 27 October 2009

More than just a fashion violation: Norwegian caught with 24 reptiles taped to body (with handy pic)

22. marisacat - 27 October 2009

Rasmussen has it 46 – 43 advantage Christie.

23. marisacat - 27 October 2009

Another 8 in Afghanistan.


Eight US soldiers have been killed in bomb attacks in southern Afghanistan, say Nato-led forces.

An Afghan civilian was also killed in what were called “multiple complex IED attacks” – or improvised bombs.

The deaths make October the deadliest month for American forces in the eight-year war in Afghanistan. . . . .. .

He’s trying to hold out on the troop announcement ’til after the Nov elections here, in NJ and VA.

Good luck!

catnip - 27 October 2009

Then he’s going to have a small window of time to announce the troop increases since he wouldn’t want to do it around US Thanksgiving/pre-Christmas – one would think. He should just get it over with.

marisacat - 27 October 2009

supposedly the week following our elections… and before the 11th, I think I read. In there somewhere.

Good Luck! Clap!

24. catnip - 27 October 2009

POLITICO Breaking News:

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) says he will join a Republican filibuster against the Senate Democrats’ health care reform bill unless the public option is removed.

Quel surprise.

25. marisacat - 27 October 2009


from axelrodian epilepsy to post prom night.


[we can go lower too.]

marisacat - 27 October 2009

ugh + gah.

I open the in box and I see ABC evening news doing a segment on Bill and Melinda.

All of you: go away and do less harm.

26. marisacat - 27 October 2009



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