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Penguins may be over done… 21 December 2009

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

Photographer David C Schultz named this shot he took in the Falkland Islands “Penguin Day Care” because the adult King penguin is supervising the chicks playing in the stream. The chicks will lose their brown down feathers after a year

but I thought maybe this one could slip thru…




1. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 December 2009
2. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 December 2009

A heads-up for Patti fans:

A Legend as Muse: Patti Smith Fills Role

On Dec. 30, Ms. Smith’s 63rd birthday, PBS will broadcast “Patti Smith: Dream of Life,” a documentary filmed over 11 years by the fashion photographer and film neophyte Steven Sebring.

The broadcast, part of the PBS series “POV,” is but the first step in what appears to be an all-out blitz to erase any remaining notions that Ms. Smith has not done enough work yet. “Dream of Life” has already been screened at some 30 film festivals around the world, including the 2008 Sundance Film Festival, where it won an award for cinematography. The PBS broadcast will coincide with three nights of musical performances by Ms. Smith at the Bowery Ballroom in New York, to be followed in 2010 by performances in Detroit, Chicago and London.

marisacat - 21 December 2009

oh thank you for that!! Re reading it I see it includes the documentary… great!

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 December 2009
4. marisacat - 21 December 2009

In relation to the post from IB in the last thread… this via moiv:

[T]he morning after her second attempt, she awoke in great pain, and finally told a female supervisor, who told Amy to take an emergency leave to fly back to the United States where a private abortion clinic could finish the procedure. However, Amy was afraid that she would miscarry on the 15-hour plane ride and have no medical escort to help her. She went to the military hospital instead and told the doctor everything. Shortly thereafter, her company first sergeant and other officers were notified of Amy’s condition. The first sergeant came to her hospital room to announce that Amy would be punished under Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which addresses violations of general regulations, for having had sex in a war zone.

That night, Amy miscarried alone in her shower. Fearful of the advice of a sympathetic female officer who suggested that Amy might be charged for the abortion as well (she wasn’t), she flushed the fetus down the toilet. “I don’t believe there was ever a life or a soul there,” Amy says, “but I feel undignified for doing that.” When her nonjudicial punishment (a plea sentence for a misdemeanor-like offense) went through, Amy was fined $500 and given a suspended rank reduction.

wu ming - 22 December 2009

we are monsters.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

it’s a miserable crime to MAKE people suffer. Esp all the Jesus freaks. Making the rest of us suffer for Jesus… so they say.

Which imo includes Ob. Who I also think is a pretty bona fide non believer. As if George Bush gave a flying cookie monster about Gawd.

But all this Jesus shit is useful.

5. marisacat - 21 December 2009

We do have a system, smallish as it is, of small “smart cars” here, based on a similar system of fast quick rentals… I am pretty sure it costs a good deal more than the new plan for Paris:

[I]nstant car rental already operates in many cities, including Paris. The novelty of Delanoe’s scheme is its very ambitious scale and the use of all-electric vehicles. A week ago, Delanoe opened the “Autolib” project to tender from potential operators. Renault, Peugeot and Daimler are possible suppliers of the 3,000 vehicles, along with new specialised green vehicle firms.

If it works, in about 18 months time, Parisians and residents of near suburbs will be able to pick up an electric car with a card swipe at 1,000 stations day and night and drop it off at any any of them. This will cost about 15 euros a month plus four or five euros per half hour of rental.

Delanoe said that the eyes of the world would be on his pioneering venture but he acknowledged that it faced many unknowns. Like the Vélib bikes, the Autolib is meant to cut pollution.

Delanoe, an enthusiastic promoter of alternative transport, estimates that the availability of low-cost vehicles will encourage Parisians to give up car ownership, saving some 22,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide a year……

Plus this from the comments:

I live in Amsterdam (a bicycle town if there ever was one). Next to riding my bike, I subscribe to a service called Greenwheels for which I pay a monthly fee of I think 16€. I book any car from some 400 in my part of town (little Peugeots) through my cellphone or online and less than 30 seconds later I can open it with my swap card. I then pay a fee per 15 minutes + something per kilometer. The fee per 15 mins encourages short use, which in turn leads to greater availability of the vehicles.

The system works perfectly. We use it for weekly groceries or if the weather is really too bad for cycling. Costwise it’s a fraction of the cost of ownership: no taxes, no insurance, no monthly payments, no worry about resale value. Every car-sharing vehicle replaces 10-12 cars: that alone makes it worth encouraging it for the city. Since I got rid of my car to join the plan, at least 5 people I know have followed my lead. Car-sharing is definitely the future in big cities.

6. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2009

Mcat, sorry, I went offline today and missed your questions last thread.

I posted a follow up there .

marisacat - 21 December 2009

oh thanks for that… no need to apologise…

BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2009

Sorry – I’m sorry for apologizing. 😆

( Gad I spent too many years as a Democrat.) LOL.

marisacat - 21 December 2009

oh too funny!

sorrysorrysorry… and sorry for that!


7. marisacat - 21 December 2009

I don’t usually agree with Frank Rich… but…………….

People wanted to believe what they wanted to believe. Tiger’s off-the-links elusiveness was no more questioned than Enron’s impenetrable balance sheets, with their “special-purpose entities” named after “Star Wars” characters. Fortune magazine named Enron as America’s “most innovative company” six years in a row. In the January issue of Golf Digest, still on the stands, some of the best and most hardheaded writers in America offer “tips Obama can take from Tiger,” who is typically characterized as so without human frailties that he “never does anything that would make him look ridiculous.”

Perhaps the most conspicuous player in the Tiger hagiography business has been a company called Accenture, one of his lustrous stable of corporate sponsors. In a hilarious Times article, Brian Stelter described the extreme efforts this outfit is now making to erase its six-year association with its prized spokesman. Alas, the many billboards with slogans like “Go On. Be a Tiger” are not so easily dismantled, and collectors’ items like “Accenture Match Play Tiger Woods Caddy Bib” are a growth commodity on eBay.

From what I can tell, Accenture is a solid company. But the Daily News columnist Mike Lupica raised a good point when I spoke with him last week: “If Tiger Woods was so important to Accenture, how come I didn’t know what Accenture did when they fired him?”

Oh they just wanted a Tiger of their own to play with. 😆 Seems clear to me. Relevance, real relevance, to the company was immaterial.

marisacat - 21 December 2009

HA! And I got to the end. As I recall Rich sold ObRama as hard as anyone. Raised a tiny pale pink flag or two… but was a promoter.

This can be seen in the increasingly urgent political plight of Barack Obama. Though the American left and right don’t agree on much, they are both now coalescing around the suspicion that Obama’s brilliant presidential campaign was as hollow as Tiger’s public image — a marketing scam designed to camouflage either his covert anti-American radicalism (as the right sees it) or spineless timidity (as the left sees it). The truth may well be neither, but after a decade of being spun silly, Americans can’t be blamed for being cynical about any leader trying to sell anything. As we say goodbye to the year of Tiger Woods, it is the country, sad to say, that is left mired in a sand trap with no obvious way out.

Good Luck!! Wish it could hit the promoters on the ass. And the head.

catnip - 21 December 2009

Frank Rich = racist

So say kossacks.

8. BooHooHooMan - 21 December 2009

Oh they shouldn’t have!
Perfect for the Holidays!
Bullshit Puree. Saran Wrapped in a cardboard box.

Last week, an Israeli-American lawyer, Shamai Leibowitz, pled guilty to leaking to an unidentified blogger five classified documents. Leibowitz obtained while working as a Hebrew translator for the FBI from January through August of this year. Court records also said that four documents classified as “secret” were found in an August search of Leibowitz’s Silver Spring home. Leibowitz held a top-secret clearance, the filings said.

But Leibowitz, 39, seems an unlikely candidate for a top U.S. security clearance. After news of the charges against him broke, it took reporters only a matter of minutes to track down news articles reporting that he was fired from a legal clerkship in Israel, and was publicly chastised by a court there for leaking a judge’s private comments.

Experts were also puzzled that someone with a long history of public activism on highly polarizing issues would wind up working for U.S. law enforcement in a classified environment and be granted access to highly sensitive information.

A quick Google search reveals Leibowitz’s public life as an activist and also the frequent controversy that his views incited. Born into a famous family of Israeli Torah scholars and intellectuals, Leibowitz was a Yeshiva student whose experience as a tank commander in the Israeli military during the second Intifadah horrified him. After which, he wrote and advocated frequently in articles, blogs and public appearances for Israeli soldiers to refuse to serve in the West Bank and Gaza, and at one time supported U.S. divestment from Israel, a view which he later changed.
As an Orthodox Jew, Shamai is also in a minority in his own community, which tends to be very hawkish,” one American pro-peace blogger friend of Leibowitz’s says on condition of anonymity. “He has suffered a great deal of ostracism as a result of this.”
“I think whoever was doing the vetting on him didn’t do their job,” Cohen said. “This guy sounds like just a real loose cannon on the deck. How could he slip through?”

9. BooHooHooMan - 22 December 2009

LOL. Lordy Oh Lordy
John “Still Working on the Cheney and Rove Investigation” Conyers
is going to put up a one slap dang ham doody of a fight for the P.O.

We are saved!

Oh in other news.. Maxine Waters…after the last few weeks of
No you dihint jaw-neckbonin Geithner over Goldman Sachs-
just picked up $2400 for her PAC from…
Goldman Sachs.

Blanche Lincoln rated for an extra hunnert.
The GS PAC gave the Senator from Wal Mart $2500.

More and Better Democrats™!!! Reform is on the Way!
We’re thiiiiis close! 😆

marisacat - 22 December 2009

They got them cheap.

10. BooHooHooMan - 22 December 2009

Today’s latest scoundrel, Dr.Harold Raverche,
really knew how to spread it around,
And – whoops – is a maxed out donor to Menendez, Murtha, and Lautenberg.

The president of Stevens Institute of Technology is accused of plundering the endowment and receiving illegal loans.

Now, charges are swirling over Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken, N.J. The state attorney general has sued the institute and its president, Harold J. Raveché, accusing him of plundering the endowment and receiving $1.8 million in illegal low-interest loans for vacation homes, with half of them later forgiven.

The institute’s trustees tripled Dr. Raveché’s salary over a decade, to $1.1 million last year, higher than presidential salaries at Harvard, M.I.T. and Princeton, and, the lawsuit says, Stevens used multiple sets of books to hide its deteriorating financial condition.
Jack B. Siegel, a Chicago lawyer who follows nonprofit cases nationwide, called the allegations against Stevens “the case of the year” because, unlike previous campus scandals focusing on presidents’ salaries or spending, the case against Stevens outlines a sweeping list of accusations.

“You’ve got allegations involving excessive compensation, but also abuse of the endowment, keeping two sets of books, misleading the board and forgiveness of below-market-rate loans,” Mr. Siegel said. “The entire process of oversight looks tainted. You rarely see a case this extreme.”

The Internal Revenue Service has its own continuing investigation that “includes issues pertaining to defendant Raveché’s compensation,” the suit says. It also notes that Stevens paid the I.R.S. $750,000 last year in penalties and unpaid taxes for several of its spinoff technology companies.
Steve Cuff, a Stevens alumnus who founded a California technology firm and served on Stevens’s board for 10 years, said Dr. Raveché had packed it with loyalists.

“They were all beholden to him, and there were no controls on what he spent,” Mr. Cuff said. “He’d travel the world, keeping no receipts. He’d come to the West Coast, have limousines meet him, stay in five-star hotels, all under the guise of raising money. And it was very, very expensive.”
Among surprises in the faculty’s 2004 report was that Stevens, which provides Dr. Raveché with a brick colonial residence with a view of the Manhattan skyline, had extended him three mortgage loans totaling $1.8 million for two vacation homes, one in Mount Snow Valley, Vt., and the other near the Jersey Shore. The suit calls those loans “unlawful.”

In a 2005 interview with The Chronicle of Higher Education, Dr. Raveché justified the loans by saying that he frequently used the two homes for college fund-raising events.

Gotta Love it. Onward! Onward to see the ties between SIT and Menendez bagmen. Onward to see the ties between SIT and Murtha’s DoD contracting scams. With any luck Rendell’s buddy Babbio from Verizon might get pinched too. Not holding my breath, but we can Hope, no?

The Stevens board has rejected calls by the faculty for an independent audit. On Sept. 2, Ms. Milgram met with the board at the campus, outlining her accusations and offering to negotiate a settlement if Dr. Raveché and the chairman, Mr. Babbio, would step down.

Instead, the board went to court seeking, unsuccessfully, to persuade Judge Thomas P. Olivieri of New Jersey Superior Court to seal the proceedings in her lawsuit to avoid “devastating consequences” that could result from it. Stevens has not yet responded to the state’s specific accusations.

Those “devastating consequences” run right thru the NJ Dem Mahoffs, especially Menendez, Rendell’s patron at Verizon: Babbio , and Murtha’s DARPA scams.

And in a couple weeks, Christie gets to appoint the new State AG.
LOL. We might as well fry the popcorn in lard for this show.

It Looks like the ole loan fraud , venture cap for spinoffs and kickback moves , too. You know :: the state of Higher Education in America. @30% of their endowment- 42 Mil – Foof!

The state’s suit says that the endowment was valued at $157.5 million in 2000, but because the institute borrowed from it repeatedly in the years since, it is now “worth less than $115 million.”

marisacat - 22 December 2009

The media out herer has found several examples of free spending (and few receipts) by administrators at the strapped community colleges…

A LOT of travelling to places they want to go to under the guise of recruiting foreign students who pay more.

What a slush fund game so much is.

BooHooHooMan - 22 December 2009

Corzines AG , Milgram has been rightly maligned as a whole buncha nothing, did absolutely NOTHING over corruption as NJ AG. Squat.

It looks like she moved simply to cover her ass given notification by a whistleblower , the question remaining…uhm.. like.. how long ago was she notified? Well. She better hope there’s no taps or emails talking about her sitting on it.

Ms. Milgram, citing her oversight responsibilities for New Jersey nonprofits, filed suit on Sept. 17, naming Dr. Raveché; Lawrence T. Babbio Jr., the chairman of the institute’s board and a former Verizon president; and the Stevens trustees as defendants.

Ms. Milgram said her investigation began with reports from a faculty whistle-blower.

“There’s no question, I’m the main whistle-blower, and it’s not been easy,” Dr. Merino said. “They are making my life miserable.”

O’ course, The real deal isn’t SIT’s University Prezzy percs , a familiar story everywhere, it’s the endowment plunder, the budget scamming, intellectual property agreements, the banking and underwriting scams, etc…So many tools at our overlords disposal. So many tools in their Contact Managers.

SIT prides itself as a certain Joisey MIT or CalTech “lite”. LOL.
Oh they’re “lite” all right. Like the UMDNJ Health system and med school scandal, this will run over a hundred million dollars “lite”, given Raverche’s 22 year tenure as President.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

Can’t his friends find him another job with juicy offereings to embezzle?

Or will he just “retire” and fade away…

O’ course, The real deal isn’t SIT’s University Prezzy percs , a familiar story everywhere, it’s the endowment plunder, the budget scamming, intellectual property agreements, the banking and underwriting scams, etc…So many tools at our overlords disposal. So many tools in their Contact Managers. —BHHM

It sounds so much like the UC system here. Once a pride and now in its final tear down. What Reagan and Meese hath started let a shit kicker from Hollywood with Nazi stripes finish.

Something of course will remain but the educational system that fed and fed and fed California for decades is over. We are officially in long term systemic decline. Or fast collapse. Which ever occurs FIRST

BooHooHooMan - 22 December 2009

Can’t his friends find him another job with juicy offereings to embezzle?
….We are officially in long term systemic decline. Or fast collapse. Which ever occurs FIRST – Mcat

That’s the thing- getting hard out here for a pimp, etc….
I have this image in my mind come 2011-
Wait till the Pwogs wake up in the middle of the night, And spot a shadowy human ladder of Axelrod and Gibbs supporting Rahm trying to boost Obam thru the window to rob their crib.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

That’s quite an image… after reading around the netteries about Flopenhagen… I say hire Chinese household security to smack that ladder right back down from the upstairs window.

Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2009

Barry’s too lazy to actually climb anything … he’ll expect somebody to go steal a cherry-picker to lift him up there.

11. marisacat - 22 December 2009

A tiny drop of humor… the French Politics blog I go to… says that over there… Copenhagen is being called “Flopenhagen”.

Good one!


marisacat - 22 December 2009

Speaking of Flopenhagen… this via Ben Smith at Politico

And the Sierra Club’s Carl Pope tells Mother Jones:

The relationship between the United States and the world is simply broken, and that being broken has consequences. A lot of Americans may have believed that Barack Obama is really different, and that wiped out eight years to the rest of the world. I think it’s turned out it didn’t.

Of course he neatly ientifies “8 years”. Yeah right it was ONLY and ever Bush.

Oh well… according to Tiny Revolution, the end-of-year Cali letter and the national letter (signed by Romero) from ACLU all praise Ob and Holder.

Kiss that crew Good Bye!

12. marisacat - 22 December 2009

HA! From the Note:

And paging Sen. Russ Feingold… President Obama, on the public option, to American Urban Radio Networks’ April Ryan: “As a practical matter, this is not the most important aspect to this bill — the House bill or the Senate bill.”

Past tense: “But it was only going to apply to a few million people who were buying into the exchange,” the president said.

Too funny…

I see Arianna is cmparing Ob to Bush in the sense that Bush gave us preemptive war (well we say he gifted us iwth that, sure it is old as the hills) and that

President Obama’s specialty seems to be preemptive compromise.”

13. marisacat - 22 December 2009

Marjorue Cohen at C-Punch

[O]bama is trying to make up for his withdrawal from Iraq by escalating the war on Afghanistan. He is acting like Lyndon Johnson, who rejected Defense Secretary Robert McNamara’s admonition about Vietnam because LBJ was “more afraid of the right than the left,” McNamara said in a 2007 interview with Bob Woodward published in the Washington Post.

Approximately 30% of all U.S. deaths in Afghanistan have occurred during Obama’s presidency. The cost of the war, including the 30,000 new troops he just ordered, will be about $100 billion a year. That money could better be used for building schools in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and creating jobs and funding health care in the United States. ………..

14. marisacat - 22 December 2009

One thing I did right.. not voting for the fucker.

This is the digest version of recent events from Harper’s Index:

Senate Democrats succeeded in producing an “historic” health-care reform bill that will force millions of people to buy insurance and will tax existing benefits if they are too generous, but will not include a public option or force the pharmaceutical industry to lower its
prices. Liberal Democrats were upset with Senator Joe
Lieberman for playing bad cop in the Senate negotiation
process, thus ensuring that both the public option and the
Medicare “buy-in” options were scuttled.

An amendment that would have allowed Americans to buy their medication abroad failed in the Senate, in large part because of resistance from the White House, and Republican senators tried to slow debate on health care by demanding a 700-page amendment be read out loud, thus delaying the passing of a bill that provides funding for U.S. troops.

Neither President Obama nor the Senate
leadership seemed particularly upset or surprised by the
final bill,
which Senator Harry Reid, the majority leader, was planning to pass by Christmas Eve.

Health insurer stocks closed on a 52-year high.

“We WIN,” emailed one insurance industry insider. “Administered by private insurance companies. No government funding. No government insurance competitor.”

And this farther down:

Peace laureate Barack Obama ordered the bombing of
suspected Al Qaeda camps in Yemen, killing 49 civilians,
including 23 children.


Choke on the vote. Might as well.

15. catnip - 22 December 2009

House Dem blames leaders for party switch

Democratic Rep. Parker Griffith announced Tuesday that he’s switching parties – saying he can no longer align himself “with a party that continues to pursue legislation that is bad for our country, hurts our economy and drives us further and further into debt.”

“Unfortunately there are those in the Democratic Leadership that continue to push an agenda focused on massive new spending, tax increases, bailouts and a health care bill that is bad for our healthcare system,” Griffith said in a statement. “I have always considered myself to be an independent voice and I have tried to be that voice in Congress – but after watching this agenda firsthand I now believe that the differences in the two parties could not be more clear and that for me to be true to my core beliefs and values I must align myself with the Republican party and speak out clearly on these issues.

Yeah…I’m not seeing that whole “differences in the two parties could not be more clear” thing…

In August — one month after Republicans picked up his former state legislative seat in a special election — Griffith told a local newspaper that he wouldn’t vote for Nancy Pelosi to remain as House Speaker because she’s too divisive. He joked that if she didn’t like it, he’d provide her with a gift certificate to a mental health center.


marisacat - 22 December 2009

I read that the NRCC quickly pulled their attack ads against Griffiths… AND the DCCC pulled the compliments about him they had at THEIR site.

Square Dance!

😆 He was a Howard Dean supporter and donor in 2004.

16. marisacat - 22 December 2009

Have a laugh:

COCHRAN: Well, as you know, he’s been criticized for not being more active by — by some people the past year and that he gave Congress too — has had — has had too much…

GIBBS: He’s been criticized for being too active and over — you know, the one thing the president has resolved in the new year is not to let any of the criticism bother him.

COCHRAN: When this goes to conference, he’s going to be involved about as much as he has been in the past, is that what you’re saying?

GIBBS: No, I don’t — we would not be at the point we are today if it weren’t for the president’s everyday involvement in this. I — I — I — you know, I know there have been reports to the contrary. I think the president believes that we’ve gotten health care reform right up to the point where, as I said a minute ago, it’s not a matter of “if.” It’s a matter of “when.”………………..

via Tapper’s Political Punch… have not made it all the way yet to whitehouse.gov….

BooHooHooMan - 22 December 2009


In an uhmprefsedentary move,
Obama to appear at Christmas Eve presser before flag draped
coffins of disinterred unknown soldiers with team of expert
Forensic Ventriloquists to certify that THEY, Too™, support the Health Care Hoobladooblubbla.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

One thing they downplay… that midnight visit to the arriving coffins he refers to (uses)… only ONE family agteed. At one point it was two, but then one family withdrew their agreement. THat left one to allow him access.

Out of iirc 17 families.

17. marisacat - 22 December 2009

Yup yup yup…. Oslo Flopenhagen… AND the beaches in Hawai’i all in one month would be a tad much.

18. catnip - 22 December 2009

Poor Obama – letting himself get “suckered” into answering questions.

Lame apologists.

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2009

Rose Ann DeMoro:

At its heart, the single biggest weakness of the bill rapidly advancing in the Senate, which mirrors the central flaw of the House bill as well, is that it “cedes far too much power to the tyranny of a callous insurance industry,” as Karen Higgins, RN, co-president of the 150,000-member newly created National Nurses United, the largest union and professional association of nurses in U.S. history, has said.

In a year when lobbyists, led by the health care industry, are poised to smash all records for influence peddling in Washington, we should not be surprised.

But the greater tragedy is that the current bill may lock into place a dysfunctional and inhumane system that threatens to move beyond the reach of more comprehensive reform for generations to come.

For those who counsel us to accept the steady stream of concessions to the obstructionists and the health care industry with the anticipation that the legislation will be improved in the House-Senate conference process, or in future years, the experience of this year suggests a very different outcome.

As Jean Ross, NNU co-president noted, “the bill seems more likely to be eroded, not improved, in future years due to the unchecked influence of the health care industry lobbyists and the lessons of this year in which all the compromises have been made to the right.”

Advocates of the current bill say it’s most important feature is that it expands coverage to 30 million Americans. But their method for accomplishing what NNU Co-president Deborah Burger calls a “wishful statement” is an individual mandate forcing the uninsured to buy private insurance or be criminalized and subject to fines, in fact symbolizes the power of the insurance industry.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

an individual mandate forcing the uninsured to buy private insurance or be criminalized and subject to fines, in fact symbolizes the power of the insurance industry.

I hate like hell to agree with the righties…. but this is a fundamental change to American life.

Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2009

it’s horrible, making a huge segment of the population essentially indentured servants to that industry.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

.. and i thnk no one knows how employers are going to react to this. Across 10, 20 years. My guess is only certain companies and certain strata of workers will receive paid or mostly paid company medical coverage. Others, a lot of people will be cut loose. Similar to the move from full hire, full time work with benefits became more and more contract work or part time work… across the 90s and into this decade.

PLUS, not sure if this holds, as I read it a few weeks ago, but state run, and apparently pretty good, health care systems, like the one in MINN will be knocked out by this bill. Or could be.

The whole thing is so vague, contradictory… everything is just still behind the curtain… or Door No 3. Or the three card monte game.


20. BooHooHooMan - 22 December 2009

LOL. Top Shelf IOZ, not to be missed.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

judging from the top post (which follows the ‘armies of the xtians vs all others’ one) he’s got a new toy of some sort… and having fun with diagrams…


21. catnip - 22 December 2009

Tonite’s wreck list, brought to you by WaPo:

In the interview, Obama vigorously defended the legislation, saying he is “not just grudgingly supporting the bill. I am very enthusiastic about what we have achieved.”

“Nowhere has there been a bigger gap between the perceptions of compromise and the realities of compromise than in the health-care bill,” Obama said. “Every single criteria for reform I put forward is in this bill.”

In listing those priorities, he cited the 30 million uninsured Americans projected to receive coverage, estimated savings of more than $1 trillion over the next two decades, a “patients’ bill of rights on steroids,” and tax breaks to help small businesses pay for employee coverage.

Those elements are in the House and Senate versions of the legislation; their competing proposals will have to be reconciled in conference committee next year. The House bill includes a government-run insurance plan favored by progressive Democrats; the Senate version does not. “I didn’t campaign on the public option,” Obama said in the interview.

Candidate Obama DID Campaign On The Public Option!
by slinkerwink

307 comments (307 new)

Fact Check: Obama DID Campaign on the “Public Plan” (UPDATED)
by dedmonds

393 comments (393 new)

Fact Check: Obama DIDN’T Campaign on the Public Option
by deaniac83

742 comments (742 new)

President Obama: “I Didn’t Campaign on the Public Option.”
by TomP

1116 comments (1116 new)

Looks like Al Franken needs to update Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.

marisacat - 22 December 2009

he’ll say anything. apparently.

When I first read some of his comments, all I could think was………. ooo that is gonna haunt.

catnip - 22 December 2009

It’s HilarityTown over there tonite.

deaniac83’s diary:

Facts are stubborn things. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but no one is entitled to his or her own facts. There has been a firestorm over whether or not then-Senator Barack Obama “campaigned on” the public option. So let me first lay out what I understand “campaigning on” to mean:

It means that the things that a candidate for office goes to the voters and talks about often. The things they repeat and repeat. The things they talk about in rallies, the things they assert in their debates with their opponents, etc. Having something in one’s campaign platform does not make one “campaign on” those things, even though it puts them on the record in favor of those things. Filling out a questionnaire is not campaigning on something. Campaigning on something is the ideas they repeat to voters, the ideas on which they want to define themselves for voters.

By that definition, it is crystal clear that candidate Barack Obama did not campaign on the public option. I’m a supporter of the public option. I want it. But to say that Obama campaigned on it is simply not true.

My comment:

Shorter diarist:

I’m going to talk about ponies. Ponies, according to me, are purple, have 3 legs and are named Fred. Anything else is not a pony.

The True Believers will not back down. It’s quite the sight.

22. BooHooHooMan - 22 December 2009

Nope. Could not have. expected. this.

A stunning report indicates “perhaps as many” as 80% of young men in the Afghan Army prefer smoking hash and grilling food to going on patrol .

Pussies. Only 80% ? Hell, 100% of my nephews
would grill food WITH Hash if we’d let them.

Okay, the straight dope is this: This field doc vid is worth the bandwidth, It is far better than that tirade of some hapleess FBombing NCO that made the rounds a few years ago…

It clearly documents the futility in a U.S. outpost as clueless American oo-rahs ( one guy seems to get it) try to get through theday trying to prod the Afghan “Army” to get their (OUR) War on.

Of course our Overlords use these reports too..
(could’ve produced this one for all I know) …in escalation efforts and calls for the Draft.:
a certain ARVN dedux (sic) ..

marisacat - 22 December 2009

… as the wars get bigger………………………

23. Madman in the Marketplace - 22 December 2009
24. marisacat - 22 December 2009

in-surr-ection! dailing in……………………..

A Jeanne d’Arc all our own!

25. marisacat - 23 December 2009

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