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It’s official 28 February 2010

Posted by marisacat in Chile - Bachelet, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

People look at destroyed cars by a collapsed bridge over the Biobio rive linking Concepcion and San Pedro de la Paz
Photograph: Francesco Degasperi/AFP/Getty Images

Chileans are “looters”… The first three pics in this gallery are of “looters”… the fourth is of people crowded and pressed, trying to enter a grocery to BUY food and being held back by the police.

It is inevitable, what are people going to be doing a day or two after disaster?  Trying to get food, water and supplies, however they can.




1. catnip - 28 February 2010

🙂 BHHM (from the last thread)

I thought you were snowed under!

2. ts - 28 February 2010

From the paper of record.

“The police fired water cannons and tear gas to disperse hundreds of people who forced their way into shuttered shops in the southern city of Concepción, which was devastated. But law enforcement authorities, heeding the cries of residents that they lacked food and water, eventually settled on a system that allowed staples to be taken but not televisions and other electronic goods.”

marisacat - 28 February 2010

Plus I think in anywhere that is organised, such as cities… grocers and suppliers and the Wal Marts ot he earth write off, for insurance purposes, the contents of the whole store, when ti comes time to settle up. They make sure they make money…

I am nto saying that applies to the littlest stores, kiosks, tht sort of thing.

The police fired water cannons and tear gas to disperse hundreds of people who forced their way

one of the photographs in the gallery is of a “looter” fleeing from tear gas….

ts - 28 February 2010

Personally, I think as long as there’s a system to get recompensed by the government, all stores large or small should be able to empty out the shelves, take notes and get reimbursed. Give some basic guidelines on distribution and it goes much quicker and faster than the state getting around to it.

Compared to the cost of rebuilding, it’s such a tiny thing. But then, of course it would restrict the state’s power to tell people what to do…

marisacat - 28 February 2010

I absolutely agree… there should be in disaster a system of compensation… people need what they need.

But we can see what happens….

One segment I saw on NO was in … ooo think it was Lakeland or Lake Village .. forget the exact name, an area adjacent to the Garden Distict… there are (or were) older homes, sort of genteel decay.. but like the French Quarter the land rises a bit there, so it did not have the deep stagnant stuck water… some of the big homes made into apartmetns in the 50s and so on… lots of elderly. Whole Foods just left their store there open and did not remove stock nor do much but remove the registers iirc. The elderly avoided expensive wines and took what they needed.

I am nto complimenting WF, but that should be the model.

marisacat - 28 February 2010

And Bachelet’s government is certainly taking the standard hardline. I jsut saw tape of ridiculous woman official with the last nam of Van Rysselberghe (no really) bitching about there is “no reason for looting”. That she “understands as they are all living thru it”.

Well Bachelet is another, got into office and went weak – or went back to what she really was…… by now I doubt the all too convenient stories of having been held and tortured under the junta….

3. marisacat - 1 March 2010

hmm SC takes up a gun control case tomorrow…

The U.S. Supreme Court is about to take dead aim at the fierce debate over gun regulations in cities and states across the country, with California’s strict gun-control laws squarely in the cross hairs of the legal showdown.

The justices on Tuesday will hear arguments in a challenge to a Chicago area ban on handguns and semiautomatic weapons, weighing for the first time whether the Second Amendment right to bear arms applies to local and state gun regulations. For a state such as California, which has long been a target of gun rights advocates for a slew of firearms regulations, a Supreme Court ruling extending Second Amendment protections to cities and states could open the floodgates to a new generation of lawsuits.

Experts generally agree that whatever the Supreme Court decides, it will not erase many of California’s gun laws. But gun rights groups already are gearing up for lawsuits that would renew challenges to California laws, including its assault weapons ban, on the grounds they trample on the fundamental right to bear arms. ….

4. marisacat - 1 March 2010


Pelosi “will put a bullet in the head of anyone she needs to,” said a Democratic insider. “Rangel, any incumbent that looks like he’s going to lose. She’ll do anything it takes to keep her majority, anything.”

Read more: Politico link

BooHooHooMan - 1 March 2010

With any luck, it’ll be murder / suicide!
Oh I know, poor form of me, using the word “it’ll”. LOL.

marisacat - 1 March 2010

Speaking of ”government”. LOL

Rush is quite excited as the Guardian has a lien in their report on the pretzel health exam… that does nto appear in US reports… that it was recommended he “moderate his alcohol intake”.

Chortle… snort … wheeze… yawn.

What a hoot.

5. catnip - 1 March 2010

5,200 Australians bare all in Sydney photo shoot

About 5,200 naked people embraced each other on the steps of Sydney’s iconic Opera House on Monday for a photo shoot by Spencer Tunick.

Tunick, who is known for his nude group photos in public spaces, posed participants for more than an hour in a variety of positions.

“It was difficult to get the straight participants to embrace the gay participants and vice versa,” Tunick said. “So I was very happy that that last set up finally got done and everyone came together (in a) united, friendly kiss, a loving kiss in front of this great structure.”

Difficult? I find that odd.

6. mattes - 1 March 2010

The Fed bought roughly a trillion and a half dollars worth of Treasury securities during the past year, financing almost the whole of the Federal deficit.

…is this like the snake eating it’s own head. Just how long do we have?


marisacat - 1 March 2010

“past year”… hpefully people can figure out that is Obama, Geithner, Summers, et al. ”Et al” being WALL ST.

Meanwhile they have been shoving Geithner out to popularity photo ops. Latest with MO for obese kids in Philly… I noticed he needs the botox between the eyebrows again. They are doing the crawl, meet and battle again. Like two warring centipedes.

mattes - 1 March 2010

Goldman is debating who they should send out on their Image Tour.

Blank-fien not looking so good after his God’s Work comment.

marisacat - 1 March 2010

thanks for posting that… I did not realise that A Times had a blog, of sorts… Must poke around more………..

mattes - 1 March 2010

I had heard rumors of the fed buy, but could not find the figures till now.

I am listening to the financial news now, and it’s all about the senate being unable to protect consumers and regulate Wall Street.

So if the senate can’t do it, who can?

ts - 1 March 2010

They can technically do this forever. It doesn’t do any good. But rather than have a failed auction, the Fed steps in and buys out the balance. Or they have GS buy out the balance, hold it a few days, and sell it to the Fed. Or they use the foreign money in reserves to buy treasuries.

One reason there are so many “excess reserves” in the banking system is not that the banks aren’t lending, but that they’ve been getting reserves in the process of the Fed buying up any excess Treasury paper.

mattes - 2 March 2010

Hey I heard they might put the consumer protection agency in the Fed.

The fed is so concerned about consumers….

marisacat - 2 March 2010

Well like Rove immediately took all things related to workplace ergonomics and moved it to the West Wing. Why do I doubt that HHS ever got any of that back? (Or Dept of Labor, where ever it had been… )

7. marisacat - 1 March 2010

Awww. too bad… I was hoping to get to hear him call Gillibrand “endearing”, the way he did Pelosi. Patronising little putz.

Former Rep. Harold Ford has abandoned plans to challenge New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand.

Ford, who spent five years in the House as a Democratic congressman from Tennessee, had signaled over the last several months that he was planning on launching a primary bid against Gillibrand, who was selected last year to serve out the remainder of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s Senate term.

But Ford came under intense pressure from Democratic Party leaders, particularly New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, to abandon his bid. Party officials, who last year underwent a concerted campaign to discourage Long Island Rep. Steve Israel from waging a campaign against Gillibrand, expressed concern that a prolonged and expensive primary that would not wrap up until September would leave the eventual nominee damaged. …

Read more: LINK

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 March 2010

Gawker’s response to the news.

my favorite comment from the thread:


Things Harold Ford can do with his time:

1. Plan helicopter flyovers for other tight race districts.
2. Hunt for poon on own merits until ultimately falling on his trusty “I’m Harold Rodriguez, A-Rod’s brother” card.
3. Spend several months contemplating opening an old-timey haberdashery, only to change his mind the day before the Grand Opening.
4. Hire a skywriter to write “Suck it, ballbags!” over Staten Island on the third Thursday of every month for a year.
5. Alternately, strongly admonish and then vociferously support abortion protesters outside women’s clinics every Saturday morning. 15 minute intervals.
6. Call the old Merill Lynch extension to see who answers. Hang up on fourth ring anyway.
7. Try, but not really try, to find out who that chick was from the Corker commercial back in 2006. Maybe hit her up on FB.
8. Bring back the fedora.
9. Try to win a tic-tac-toe game but manage to lose miserably. Repeat with checkers, Connect Four, and darts (against a blind person.)
10. Slap Chuck Schumer in his bitch mouth.

marisacat - 1 March 2010

oh I loved that! Esp 2, 5, 6 and 10.

If he never brought much into Merrill they will be thrilled to cut him off. Buh bye!

BooHooHooMan - 2 March 2010

But Ford came under intense pressure from Democratic Party leaders, particularly New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, to abandon his bid. Party officials, who last year underwent a concerted campaign to discourage Long Island Rep. Steve Israel from waging a campaign against Gillibrand,…

LOL. Enter Mort Zuckerman…
Fuck it, I couldn’t resist the Politico:::

Wow . Ford drops out . Jeebs, A Shame. If there’s one thing Congress needed was more entitled second and third generation buck toothed brats in it like Ford. Good to know tho, that the Wall Street Jews will finally have a voice in DC. LOL. ( It’s a joke. Seriously. Lighten up people, Lord knows your wallets are.)

marisacat - 2 March 2010

I loved the way the Politico told the story of the “baby”.

mattes - 2 March 2010

His relationship with his employees has often been difficult. He broke the union at the Daily News, ended its pension plan, and this year ended the company’s 401(k) contributions.

Nice guy.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

and of course both of them are regularly on Morning Joe to push their “centrism”. Ford was on this morning in full-out scorched Earth attacks on the donks in NYC, on top of repeatedly insisting he would have won.

8. marisacat - 1 March 2010

As Cali continues to suicide

[S]ince the mid-1990s, administrative salaries have absorbed a dramatically increasing share of the university’s overall budget. According to a study by UC Berkeley Professor Emeritus of Physics Charles Schwartz, the number of UC administrative positions increased by an almost unbelievable 118 percent from 1996 to 2006, as compared with a 34 percent increase in faculty positions and 33 percent increase in students over the same period. As a result, there are currently 3,600 UC employees who make more than $200,000 a year, many of them through administrative positions.

An even more damning revelation was made public this past October when UC Santa Cruz Professor Bob Meister published his scathing analysis of the UC administration’s use of student tuition dollars as collateral for construction bond debts. In addition to his PhD in economics, Meister serves as Chairman of the Council of University Faculties – essentially, a faculty union with representatives on all 10 of the university’s campuses. He knows what he’s talking about. According to the Regents’ own data and policy documents, the primary use of student fee revenue since 2004 has been as collateral for bonds to fund campus construction projects. In this “modified credit swap,” students are forced to take out “subprime” student loans, often charging six percent interest, so the university can borrow money at a reduced rate to construct new facilities like – to take one example — the Blum Center for Developing Economies at UC Berkeley, which UC Regent Richard C. Blum’s own construction company, URS Corporation, was contracted by the university to build. …

As the article points out, when the lege severely cut the UC budget, UC pretzel Udof was accorded emergency powers… and raised student fees (LOL we don’t hve “tuition”) by 32%. Now we see why…

Article ahs more on Richard Blum – LOL DiFi consort – and the UC system

9. catnip - 1 March 2010

Jon Stewart did hilarious bits about Jim Bunning and Rick Sanchez tonite. Well worth checking out.

marisacat - 1 March 2010

There is new film of Jonathan Karl chasing him to the “senators only” elevator. Gee myabe with Bunning retiring and nto running again (thougth I read that a few months ago) do ya htink by now the Dems could win the seat?


10. ts - 1 March 2010

I just saw Terminator Salvation and it wasn’t very good.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

it was very disappointing

11. marisacat - 1 March 2010

HA! Paterson says he is the “victim” of an “hysteric” something or other.

But somehow or other Mr Johnson’s women, more than one, has needed to be “counseled”. And somehow, both, that we know of, got counseled either by state police detailed to Paterson or by an aide…

[M]r. Paterson instructed his press secretary, Marissa Shorenstein, to ask the woman to publicly describe the episode as nonviolent, according to a third person, who was briefed on the matter. That description would contradict the woman’s accounts to the police and in court.

Mr. Paterson also enlisted another state employee, Deneane Brown, a friend of both the governor and the accuser, to make contact with the woman before she was due in court to finalize an order of protection against the aide, David W. Johnson, the two people with direct knowledge said. Ms. Brown, an employee of the Division of Housing and Community Renewal, reached out to the woman on more than one occasion over a period of several days and arranged a phone call between the governor and the woman, Mr. Johnson’s companion.

[M]s. Brown had also played a role on the administration’s behalf in characterizing one of Mr. Johnson’s prior disputes with a woman. Mr. Johnson, according to his girlfriend at the time, punched her in the face outside Mr. Paterson’s Harlem office in 2001, when the governor was a state senator from Upper Manhattan.

The woman did not file a police report, and Mr. Paterson’s chief of staff at the time, Woody Pascal, said he had intervened and counseled the woman. ….

Sometimes you get taken down (and he is getting taken down) but sometimes just too much dumb thuggery about.

And the wimmens, why, they jsut need so much counseling. Over and over.

12. BooHooHooMan - 2 March 2010


Emanuel as a voice of reason?

Rahm Emanuel is a Washington caricature, but many Dems think Obama isn’t listening to him nearly enough.
» Jason Horowitz

Might as well be Vladimir Horowitz the way they’re playin this tune.
LOL. For all the Chop Stick motherfucker’s consumption out there.
The deent deent deent da deent deent deent on one hand of Rahm, with the bold Deent deent Dee painfully played to suggest Obama is his own Maestro on the other…

marisacat - 2 March 2010

Speaking of the coven… I caught Bayh last night on with Charlie… His weak ”support” ofr Ob in 2012 was a hoot! I heard wafts of what will be “the story”, I think… esp the sideswipes that it helps to have had executive experience… then Bayh lauded Corker, based on his having been in business and a stint as mayor…


marisacat - 2 March 2010

I see that is page A1 on the Wapo. gah. Myself, I think Rahm just sounds like one more manic asshole atthe ob WH… and again do they need initialed baby bibs to know who they are? this crew is addicted to cartouches.

‘Every morning, Emanuel leads a 7:30 meeting with about 10 senior administration aides, pushing through the president’s priorities, all listed on index cards embossed with the title ‘Chief of Staff.’ Throughout the day, one senior administration official said, Emanuel might call six times to determine whether he can cross off an item. If not, it is on the list the next day. The official said Emanuel surveys colleagues’ opinions ‘more than people think.’ ….

catnip - 2 March 2010

but many Dems think Obama isn’t listening to him

That’s the second column in a week at WaPo talking about how poor Rahm is getting the shaft. Poor Rahm and his own little DC press machine, that is.

He seems to be staging a mini-coup.

marisacat - 2 March 2010

Baby bibs for everyone! Initialed! Like sleep away camp, get your name inside everything you own! You might get lost over the summer, but your undies won’t……..

13. BooHooHooMan - 2 March 2010

Welp. They have this guy.
Clearly a reversal in the National Trend.

Today, I became a Democrat.
by Novem

Sometime after 8:40 this morning I walked into Town Hall and registered for the first time to vote. Today, I turned 18. On the registration form, I was given the opportunity to check off a box for Democratic, Republican, Libertarian, or No Party. After a moment’s excited hesitation, I checkmarked Democratic. This was not a decision I made overnight. This was a decision I took time to arrive at.

{ After a whole lot of
Yada Yada, Dumb as Hell , How ’bout Tryin to Gettin Laid Yada..}

Update: Holy shit. Reclist. No way.

😆 Talk about snagging the last seat on the Donner Party.
And Written like a true… ~35 year old~… ASTROTURFER.
Kids don’t use “Way” and “No way” anymore.. Even fifty-ish keen observers know that went out with Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure.

And they sure as hell don’t write this operative crap in the wake of Tiller’s murder.

marisacat - 2 March 2010

This is comedy.. we must thank Novern.

14. ts - 2 March 2010

Oh gawd…

Coffee Party, With a Taste for Civic Participation, Is Added to the Political Menu

Fed up with government gridlock, but put off by the flavor of the Tea Party, people in cities across the country are offering an alternative: the Coffee Party.

Growing through a Facebook page, the party pledges to “support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them.”

ts - 2 March 2010

My coffee is offended.

marisacat - 2 March 2010

it reminds me of a day when I was in line in the morning behind a woman who ordered Nonfat Decaff Latte with No Foam. When I got to the point of ordering I did mention I wanted the opposite of Nothing with Nothing with Nothing on Top.

BooHooHooMan - 2 March 2010

Too Funny – Hold the nothin’ ! 😆

marisacat - 2 March 2010

Well absolutely! As the cofee party gets attention that should go to the fucked up policies.. I found them pretty lame frankly, but keeps silly people off he street. I guess.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010
marisacat - 2 March 2010

verry funny!

marisacat - 2 March 2010

Jonathan Schwarz says people did not get the joke. Nor did I, ’til I read his post at TR, tho he does nto give away the connection. I managed to scramble it up frm the deep hole known as my brain.

admin - 2 March 2010

I thought that was the Latte Party.

15. marisacat - 2 March 2010

LAT SCOTUS heard the arguments today in the local gun rights case, rising from Chicago.

Sounds like most local restrictions will fall… tho not for conceal carry.

Frotunately I don’t wrong my hands anymore…. and I am pretty well convinced that white liberals and their ilk WANT to take guns from the poor and POC. Most and foremost.

[C]hief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. called it an “extremely important” right in the Constitution. Justices Antonin Scalia and Samuel A. Alito Jr. echoed the theme that the court had endorsed an individual, nationwide right in their decision two years ago. The fifth member of the majority, Justice Clarence Thomas, did not comment during the argument, but he had been a steady advocate of the 2nd Amendment.

A ruling striking down the Chicago handgun ban would reverberate nationwide because it would open the courthouse door to constitutional challenges to all manner of local or state gun regulations. However, the justices may not give much guidance on how far this right extends.

Roberts all but forecast the court would issue an opinion that avoids deciding the harder questions about whether guns can be carried in public as well as kept at home. “We haven’t said anything about the content of the 2nd Amendment,” Roberts said at one point. He added that the justices need not rule on whether there is a right to carry a “concealed” weapon. …

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

oliver schwarzwald: breakfast

german photographer oliver schwarzwald recently completed a series of photographs for depicting breakfasts eaten in different countries around the world.

the series was shot for the german magazine feld homme and is composed of various foods commonly eaten in the morning.

I liked the French one.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010
marisacat - 2 March 2010

the thread is a scream!

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

pretty funny, a lot of them.

marisacat - 2 March 2010

ooo thank you for this… I so wish I could wake to the smells of the French street, breakfast perfums of the various breads, butter, milk, cream…

Off to enjoy.

marisacat - 2 March 2010

well yu can only have the cigarette in France if yuo are at home…

The breakfast for USA looks a lot better than what most hve………… 😉

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

I liked that the arrangement of the foods in the photos were more about the idea of breakfast in that country than the real thing.

17. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

Gawker: Harold Ford Slinks Back Home to Morning Joe

To Harold Ford, being a “Democrat” or a “Republican” is primarily a marketing question. As he tells “Morning” Joe, “I share a lot of views of yours.” Where they differ, “slightly,” is in who they’d like to run the legislature. Which, you wonder why an “Independent Democrat” who shares “a lot of views” with former Republican congressman Joe Sarborough would care which party runs the House and Senate! Whoever’s in charge, he’ll never, ever be there. (And whoever’s in charge, his friends can probably still be assured of an Estate Tax cut.)

marisacat - 2 March 2010

I think over all we are seeing the rise of the ‘third party’ that will be allowed.

Mort, wealthy tho less mega mega wealthy than Bloomie, if he and his mamaless baby enter the race, wll be described as a “Republican Independent” (tho the NYs Independence Party has been in contact with him) and low ball low life pink Everlast-wearing baby shit kickers like Ford are “Independent Democrats”.

And then of course there is Lieberman, tossed to hapless rank and file as an outsider – fake food for them to play with… when he is a core party reality.

YUM gotta love USA!!! USA!!! democratischer non realities.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

the aristocracy will ALWAYS have a party to represent them.

marisacat - 2 March 2010

yeah… ain’t it the trut.

18. marisacat - 2 March 2010

As we limp on:

Obama Offers to Use Some GOP Health Care Proposals

New York Times – David M. Herszenhorn – ‎1 hour ago‎

WASHINGTON – Trying to outmaneuver the Republicans in the health care debate, President Obama offered Tuesday to address some of their concerns by embracing proposals to encourage the use of medical savings accounts and to …

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010


mattes - 2 March 2010

Bipartisanship….limp wrist.

19. brinn - 2 March 2010

Just thought I’d let ya’ll know that despite Bunning and the do-less-than-nothing Congress, I still got my whopping $304 (that’s for 2 weeks, mind) UI monies from the Texas Workforce Commish…..color me surprised!

The kids and I can EAT for the next week or so! WhooHoooo! 😉

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

time for a celebratory DOUBLE portion of mac-n-cheese!

brinn - 2 March 2010

Breakfast tacos for dinner! (That was last night….)

20. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 March 2010

We’re in such trouble …

SCOTUSBlog: Analysis: 2d Amendment extension likely

21. marisacat - 2 March 2010

New post


………………. 😯


Madman: I will move the SCOTUSBlog post forward… 😉

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