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hmm 16 March 2010

Posted by marisacat in Chile - Bachelet, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, WAR!.

Viña del Mar, Chile: People ride on a bus during a blackout [Eliseo Fernandez/Reuters]

Looks like a familiar feeling…

And I will say it for a third time, all the blacks, white libs and Jews who voted for Obama and are of military age, would join up.  Pronto.  If they vote for him again, join TWICE… 😆

It would only be fair.  Or what passes for fair!

It is so good that the high muckety mucks deal so conscientiously with the really important stuff.  As though bin Laden, dead or alive, matters. As tho they, the HMMs, have not been beating up the universe in an effort to find him and get Ob’s numbers back up in the stratosphere.  Tho I doubt “finding” bin Laden would do that. 

”Finding” bin Laden won’t put food on anyone’s table…




1. BooHooHooMan - 16 March 2010

”Finding” bin Laden won’t put food on anyone’s table…

Not if we can get the Jews to kill ‘im and the Catholics to make Communion out of him. I know some guys who can sell it. 😉

catnip - 16 March 2010

Hey! You’re alive.

marisacat - 16 March 2010

Toss him to Tillikun… 😉

catnip - 16 March 2010

Him or Menendez? lol

2. catnip - 16 March 2010

Somebody needs to send Timmy Geithner an eyebrow pencil.

marisacat - 17 March 2010

I jsut saw clips of him, making a fool of himself in hearings… Orzsag looking constipated, basically… TG laying down his love for Obama and his greatness. BUT, Timmeh got that Botox shot between the brows… they’ve stopped looking like two caterpillars charging each other.

Such leaders.

marisacat - 17 March 2010

Speaking of………………

the picture is priceless.

3. catnip - 16 March 2010

Hedge fund talks collapse after Brown intervenes

The European Union has been forced to shelve controversial plans to regulate hedge funds after Gordon Brown intervened to tell his counterpart in Spain that the terms were unacceptable to Britain.

The EU was attempting to push its proposed Alternative Investment Fund Manager directive into law, but the terms proved too divisive to reach an accord yesterday. It was due to be finalised by the Economic and Financial Affairs Council (Ecofin), but the item was deleted from the agenda by Spain, which holds the EU presidency, shortly before the start of the meeting.

“E(-)cof(f)in” – apropos.

4. BooHooHooMan - 17 March 2010

Hey! You’re alive!

Not for Long! Like the Robust Public Option! So why worry? LOL.

To “The Robusto!”

marisacat - 17 March 2010

I think Holder should shut up. What a dumb and offensive thing to say. On the one hand this crew hands to all but the most extreme neo-con just what they (the Vulcans, the Neo-cons) want, on the other hand they act like untrained children in unchanged diapers wandering loose in public.

Very odd.

catnip - 17 March 2010

Was that about this? If bin Laden is found, he’ll be killed, Holder says

Yeah! Screw those international treaties!

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

well, now we know why they want to leave Yoo and Bybee alone … they’re just as lacking in legal ethics themselves.

5. NYCO - 17 March 2010

From previous thread: health care. Mandating people to buy insurance seems eerily reminiscent of the way the late Roman Empire mandated that sons had to take up their fathers’ occupations (be it farming, military, or civil service). In the end, what happens is that the plebes, here and there in the provinces, simply start welcoming the barbarians in, or remaining passive to barbarian incursions – to free themselves of the burden of Empire. (Do I know what form that will take here? No. It’ll probably take myriad forms.)

6. catnip - 17 March 2010

And Dennis caves. Bad Seabiscuit! Bad!

7. catnip - 17 March 2010

FACT CHECK: Premiums would rise under Obama plan

Obama asked his audience for a show of hands from people with employer-provided coverage, what most Americans have.

“Your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3,000 percent,” said the president, “which means they could give you a raise.”

A White House press spokesman later said the president misspoke; he had meant to say annual premiums would drop by $3,000.

It could be a long wait.

“There’s no question premiums are still going to keep going up,” said Larry Levitt of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a research clearinghouse on the health care system. “There are pieces of reform that will hopefully keep them from going up as fast. But it would be miraculous if premiums actually went down relative to where they are today.”

brinn - 17 March 2010

These assholes really make me sick….OF COURSE the premiums are going to keep going up — who do they think they’re kidding with this shit? And on top of it all the premiums “cadillac” coverage like mine, (which, for a child’s broken leg will end up costing us a MINIMUM of $2500 out of pocket, by the by) will now be TAXED as personal income! Whoofuckinghoo!

They really screw everyone over with this bill, and the stuff they say it doesn’t, it really doesn’t, like prevent people from being dropped and/or denied coverage for pre-existing conditions (what? you’ve been alive before now?! so sorry, that’s OBVIOUSLY a pre-existing condition, no health care for YOU!)

May they all choke to death on their own bile-laden rhetoric, and then be buried in an eco-friendly garbage dump for lack of “final expenses” coverage.

Oh, and Happy St. Paddy’s day all!

marisacat - 17 March 2010

Cali passed laws years ago preventing ins cox from dropping people for either being ill or having pre-existing conditions. It made no difference, not really.

AND many years ago, Cali passed caps on “pain and suffering” in med mal lawsuits, 250K and in fact never revisited even as that number became ridiculous in many lawsuits… It made no difference in how the ins cos acted and raised premiums.

The template is MASS, which as a reality the Dems have simply kept hidden and is not much written about in the past year. One big thing that happened is that everything shrank that should nto have (calculation of poverty for assistance in coverage, for one) or expanded (premium$$$ for one) that the bill was supposed to protect.

I think a lot o people out there in the dark think that paying 700.00 to 1500.00 a month for a family is going to disappear over night. 😆 It won’t.

AND it remains to be seen what policing the mandate thru the IRS is going to mean. HA! It was the poverty washer Edwards (with his head up Rielle’s twat no doubt) who first said (at the You Tube debate) that wages should/could be garnished if necessary. Hillary said it later and THEN everyone noticed… including the media. Briefly.

I think this bill is being enacted to literally break both middle class and poor.

And to think the House plans to pass it by something even less than a “voice vote”…

I thought Kuc looked shifty as all hell when he announced if he ”can vote for it anyone can”. And of course he was going to cave. LOL on the schedule…


marisacat - 17 March 2010

“Your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3,000 percent,” said the president, “which means they could give you a raise.”

I call that throwing up in public. He really is shameless…

LOL Won’t be happening. corps and companies will be dropping employer provided coverage, is what will happen.

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

old lawyer trick, throw out something outrageously wrong, then “withdraw” it when someone objects.

marisacat - 17 March 2010

more vomitus…

8. catnip - 17 March 2010

The cows are now hanging out with the bison across the road. This could be the beginning of bovine mayhem!

marisacat - 17 March 2010

bi partisan.

catnip - 17 March 2010


MoooooveOn.org meets the Buffalo Heritage Foundation.

catnip - 17 March 2010

It appears that the bison are now having a caucus meeting – or a sit in – or an afternoon nap. Hard to tell from here.

Meanwhile, the cows have been lured by arugula on the other side of the pasture.

marisacat - 17 March 2010

Can we vote them into congress? Things might go better……..

catnip - 17 March 2010

I’ll talk to them and let you know. 🙂

(Just call me the Buffalo Whisperer.)

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

I really enjoy when he writes this stuff.

David Byrne on Collaborations:

It seems she doesn’t like writing words — and she’s not alone there. Brian hates it as well. I find it to be the most labor-intensive part of songwriting, but when it works, and it doesn’t always, then the song can seem more like something that magically flowed out — something that emerged naturally, rather than something that was made in incremental pieces. But at times words can be a dangerous addition to music — they can pin it down. Words imply that the music is about “that” (“that” being what the words say literally) and nothing else. They can, if not done well, destroy the pleasant ambiguity that is a lot of the reason we love music so much. That inherent ambiguity means that we can psychologically tailor music to our own needs, sensibilities and situations — but words limit that, or they can. There are plenty of beautiful tracks that I can’t listen to because they’ve been “ruined” by bad words — my own and others. So I understand some folks’ trepidation, and my own sometime-failures.

Part of what makes words work in a song is how they sound to the ear and feel on the tongue. If they feel right, if the tongue (wooo!), and the mirror neurons of the listener (isn’t that part of why we love music and performance — mirror neurons?) are made to feel (neurologically) the delicious appropriateness of the words coming out, then that rightness sometimes trumps literal sense. We “sing” in our minds when we hear and see singing. So the writing of words — the putting them down on paper — is part of songwriting, but the proof of the pudding is in the singing.

10. marisacat - 17 March 2010

hmm I do believe we may have experienced a “peak” moment. That would be FLOTUS talking with Jon Meacham (soon to replace Moyers and Brancaccio on PBS) about Twinkies.

With a Newsweek backdrop.

C’me ON! It cannot get better than that!

Whatever MO or JM lacked, the mere mention of a Twinkie made up for….

I am certain of that, at least.

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

Meacham is the intellectual equivalent of a Twinkie, so it’s a theme.

marisacat - 17 March 2010

yeah I thought it all worked quite well… and she sounded about as looney as ever… Bitch moan lecture but be sure to know that a Twinkie is NOT, repeat, NOT a cigarette. We just need a lable to know what is inside.

Hilarious — as Twinkies, like everything else, IS labeled. Thanks to Liddy Dole, for one.


May they all DROP DEAD.

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

Local TV news: Not just crappy, also in violation of FCC regs

Local TV news isn’t meeting FCC standards of operating in the public interest. USC study shows just 22 seconds of local gov coverage for every 30 minutes. Humpback whale sightings, celebrity perfume lawsuits cited by stations as examples of “significant treatment of issues facing the community.”

brinn - 17 March 2010

The real shocker is that anyone remembers that the FCC HAS standards of operating in the public interest!!!


12. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

There is NOWHERE safe to be an altar-kid:

Catholic Church Abuse Scandal Moves to Brazil

The case came to light after the SBT network aired a video purportedly showing an 82-year-old priest having sex with a 19-year-old altar boy who worked for him for four years. Other young men appeared on the report saying that they, too, had been abused by Monsignor Luiz Marques Barbosa.

catnip - 17 March 2010

It’s their globalization plan.

CSTAR - 18 March 2010

link in portuguese….(The Video at about 3:15 is disturbing to say the least. No translation needed)

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

I can’t believe that people STILL give their children over to that organization.

CSTAR - 18 March 2010

Here’s the story from
“Folha de Sao Paulo” which is one the newspapers of record in Brazil.

I just checked the Google translation and it’s pretty good.

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010


CSTAR - 18 March 2010

Except the population of Arapiraca is 200,000 not 200 (according to the translation which gobbled up the “mil”)

13. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

Harold Ford – Just a Modern Guy

The look on his face is priceless.

14. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2010

Hitchens: The pope’s entire career has the stench of evil about it.

Concerning the most recent revelations about the steady complicity of the Vatican in the ongoing—indeed endless—scandal of child rape, a few days later a spokesman for the Holy See made a concession in the guise of a denial. It was clear, said the Rev. Federico Lombardi, that an attempt was being made “to find elements to involve the Holy Father personally in issues of abuse.” He stupidly went on to say that “those efforts have failed.”

He was wrong twice. In the first place, nobody has had to strive to find such evidence: It has surfaced, as it was bound to do. In the second place, this extension of the awful scandal to the topmost level of the Roman Catholic Church is a process that has only just begun. Yet it became in a sense inevitable when the College of Cardinals elected, as the vicar of Christ on Earth, the man chiefly responsible for the original cover-up. (One of the sanctified voters in that “election” was Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston, a man who had already found the jurisdiction of Massachusetts a bit too warm for his liking.)

There are two separate but related matters here: First, the individual responsibility of the pope in one instance of this moral nightmare and, second, his more general and institutional responsibility for the wider lawbreaking and for the shame and disgrace that goes with it. The first story is easily told, and it is not denied by anybody. In 1979, an 11-year-old German boy identified as Wilfried F. was taken on a vacation trip to the mountains by a priest. After that, he was administered alcohol, locked in his bedroom, stripped naked, and forced to suck the penis of his confessor. (Why do we limit ourselves to calling this sort of thing “abuse”?) The offending cleric was transferred from Essen to Munich for “therapy” by a decision of then-Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger, and assurances were given that he would no longer have children in his care. But it took no time for Ratzinger’s deputy, Vicar General Gerhard Gruber, to return him to “pastoral” work, where he soon enough resumed his career of sexual assault.

It is, of course, claimed, and it will no doubt later be partially un-claimed, that Ratzinger himself knew nothing of this second outrage. I quote, here, from the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a former employee of the Vatican Embassy in Washington and an early critic of the Catholic Church’s sloth in responding to child-rape allegations. “Nonsense,” he says. “Pope Benedict is a micromanager. He’s the old style. Anything like that would necessarily have been brought to his attention. Tell the vicar general to find a better line. What he’s trying to do, obviously, is protect the pope.”

Very much more serious is the role of Joseph Ratzinger, before the church decided to make him supreme leader, in obstructing justice on a global scale. After his promotion to cardinal, he was put in charge of the so-called “Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith” (formerly known as the Inquisition). In 2001, Pope John Paul II placed this department in charge of the investigation of child rape and torture by Catholic priests. In May of that year, Ratzinger issued a confidential letter to every bishop. In it, he reminded them of the extreme gravity of a certain crime. But that crime was the reporting of the rape and torture. The accusations, intoned Ratzinger, were only treatable within the church’s own exclusive jurisdiction. Any sharing of the evidence with legal authorities or the press was utterly forbidden. Charges were to be investigated “in the most secretive way … restrained by a perpetual silence … and everyone … is to observe the strictest secret which is commonly regarded as a secret of the Holy Office … under the penalty of excommunication.” (My italics). Nobody has yet been excommunicated for the rape and torture of children, but exposing the offense could get you into serious trouble. And this is the church that warns us against moral relativism!

Links to supporting stories at the Hitchens link.

marisacat - 17 March 2010

Theatre of the Criminally Absurd.

15. BooHooHooMan - 17 March 2010

Oh look – a fresh pot of Chock Full O’ Nuts – or nuns…
*or something else entirely* which will come into view…

Anti-abortion Democrat Kildee says he will vote yes on health care bill
By Peter Slevin

CHICAGO – Anti-abortion forces who oppose President Obama’s health-care overhaul suffered a significant defection Wednesday when Rep Dale E. Kildee (D-Mich.) announced that he would vote in favor of the proposal.

Kildee, describing himself as “a staunch pro-life member of Congress,” said he is confident that the Senate bill under consideration would preserve a 33-year-old ban on federal funding for abortion and would provide insurance to millions of people who need it.

“We must not lose sight of what is at stake here – the lives of 31 million American children, adults and seniors – who don’t have health insurance,” Kildee said in a written statement. “There is nothing more pro-life than protecting the lives of 31 million Americans.”

Rep. Bart Stupak, a fellow Michigan Democrat and Kildee ally, contends the Senate’s language on abortion is not strong enough. He has vowed to marshal as many as a dozen Democratic votes against the measure.

“Some people are saying we have to vote for the Senate bill. That ain’t going to happen,” Stupak told The Post earlier this month.

Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.), an abortion foe who backed Stupak’s approach when the House passed its version of health care reform last year, also announced this week that he could support the Senate language. The bill would allow people receiving federal subsidies to buy health insurance that covers abortion, but they would have to write a separate check for the abortion coverage.

Perriello stopped short of saying that he would vote for the final bill. The proposal would prevent federal tax dollars from paying for abortions, he said, and contains new programs “likely to reduce the number of abortions in this country in ways that move beyond politics toward a real impact on the culture of life.”

marisacat - 17 March 2010

sick little round table on Charlie R… I was watching a movie, so just dropped in. Gah. Laurence O Donnell with the tick tock on Kuc. I gather they had the cancer victim that Ob has been parading the past few days, call him from her hosptial bed.



ODonnell, Lowry, Ezra the baby and Ornstein.

Absolutely disgusting.

marisacat - 17 March 2010

omigod. Laurence is saying that LBJ lived in an easy political time. Campaign donations were bags of cash THEN, so says LO’D.

😆 scream with laughter.. it is STILL bags of cash. GLOBAL cash.

BooHooHooMan - 18 March 2010

I loathe that con, Larry O Donnell.
MSNBC had Markos on with pant LO’D.
Like watching potatoes fuck.

Larry: Markos?


Didn’t have the votes.
Need More and Better.
BUT Bubba Bubba BBUT-
We need to take what we can get!
What Larry? Heck no , actually!
We don’t like it! We’re gonna fight!…etc. meow.purr.
. mmm. milk. coookies. seepies.

16. BooHooHooMan - 17 March 2010

But dig this….I love how Slevin and WaPo massaged their pieces when speaking of …..wait for it …the NUNS ..LOL- who are now on Board, too!.

A consortium representing 59,000 Catholic nuns distributed a letter to Congress on Wednesday urging passage of the health bill. Taking a position in opposition to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the group urged what it called a “life-affirming ‘yes’ vote” for a bill that is “a crucial next step in realizing health care for all.”

Capitalist Bitches. 😆

“Despite false claims to the contrary, the Senate bill will not provide taxpayer funding for elective abortions,” stated the letter, signed by more than 50 religious leaders. “It will uphold longstanding conscience protections and it will make historic new investments — $250 million – in support of pregnant women.”

Oh please, girlfriends. “Elective Abortions”? Well I guess it’s gotta be the elective malted in the blender after the movie on Saturday night instead of , ya know ,
~ the customary baby and elective abortion that people just love.

But suggesting $250 million as an “Historic Investment”? GMAFB.
Talk about morning in the American Vagina again!
2 Whole Dollars PER ! WoW!
That could buy ONE helluva Historic Condom, tho, no?
Hey – Time to build another Bathtub Shrine in the front yard!

Golly, What a choice heirloom…. for the family and all..
AND the Security for generations to come. In a manner of speaking.
I mean, knowing that the crazy-glued Historic Investment Condom affixed to the old claw foot Shrine (Just not near the hole!)..knowing that the 2 Dollar HIC will still be out there watching over the home …I guess…uhm, until it goes MISSING.


Back to Earth. So… who are these Sisters? All ‘59,000″ of them trottted out for the game…Uh no. It’s Divine Astroturf.
Easy to figure: they are some 60 – as in five dozen – Catholic Health System Administrators CEOs of various orders operating in the US. This story is obviously part of a deal. That 59,000 Nuns in the US are behind Obama’s Health Care Plan is pulled right out of the Holy Rectum. I’m sure they are using numbers worldwide to fluff the story. …but one wouldn’t know from Slevins piece nor the earlier dateline, even more veiled piece via Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar of the AP.

The Associated Press
Wednesday, March 17, 2010; 10:14 AM

WASHINGTON — Catholic nuns {Signatures? Anyone- BHHM }are urging Congress to pass President Barack Obama’s health care plan, in an unusual public break with bishops who say it would subsidize abortion.

Some 60 leaders of religious orders representing 59,000 Catholic nuns Wednesday sent lawmakers a letter urging them to pass the Senate health care bill. It contains restrictions on abortion funding that the bishops say don’t go far enough.

The letter says that “despite false claims to the contrary, the Senate bill will not provide taxpayer funding for elective abortions.” The letter says the legislation also will help support pregnant women and “this is the real pro-life stance.”

The Boston Globe carried a slightly more forthcoming version of the Alonso-Zaldivar story..you have to dip in but it’s there,

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the National Right to Life Committee have denounced the bill as a backdoor subsidy for abortion. But the nuns and the Catholic Health Association — representing some 600 hospitals — say restrictions in the Senate bill would still prevent taxpayer funding for abortion, although the legal mechanism for doing so is different from what the bishops prefer.

Translation? GIVE US OUR CUT.
I’ve written about this for a while, I’ve always seen this call of the Abortion Play (for that matter the “callouts” of Catholic Pols – over ABORTZION – not WAR – Go Figure) IMO these games in light of this long trending HC market consolidation game for what it is: a political protection racket: Give us our cut and we’ll tamp it down. Your Bombers, assassin, and weirdo issue voter problems are over.

That kind of shit. Which isn’t much to work with considering those structuring the offer are incontrovertible child molesters and their enablers, frequently the very sorts of kooks with the cilice embedded into their corporeally really mortified legs..

marisacat - 17 March 2010

You know how it goes… it’s all “historic” now.

BooHooHooMan - 18 March 2010

Ed Koren- Is that you?

marisacat - 18 March 2010

HA! No it’s me… the ever moi.

Ya know.. I have been thinking for a few days, that RatzyNazi has ticked off some big people. Bigger than he is, as it happens. There must be some money deal or geopolitical deal or SOMETHING the Vatican is pulling……… that has a slice of the global creeps pissed off.

Cuz they sure don’t care about small children, nor prepubescent NOR pubescent NOR anything else…

And this is getting quite close to Ratz.

I especially lvoed seeing Brian Ross of ABC ACCOST, and I do mean accost, Rats at his car in Rome. I think he and Gansie were walking back from a visit or a meal out or something and BR just dashed forward and got between Ratz and the open car door space.

Ratz looked quite rattled.

It made my week.

CSTAR - 18 March 2010

It sure made mine…

17. BooHooHooMan - 18 March 2010

LOL. From a DK diary

The Pope Should Step Down

He never was a good choice (6+ / 0-)

Wife and I never liked him much, from his hitler youth past to his general personality. We have drifted quite far from the Church in the past few years though, and not looking back.

Government for the people, by the people
by axel000 on Wed Mar 17, 2010 at 08:01:35 PM PDT

Yeh, LOL.
Who wants their Hitler Youth Pope to not be, ya know , Fun?

I gave him a pass on the Hitler Youth past (5+ / 0-)

until I read a really good comment, about the lives of the saints.

GOP = Godless opposition party We Hassle to make America a Vassal (state)

by Shhs on Wed Mar 17, 2010 at 08:08:08 PM PDT


CSTAR - 18 March 2010

He should step down. From the side of a bridge. Or a tall building.

18. ts - 18 March 2010

Where’s Bill Donohue in all this? He needs to be on tv calling asians “gooks” and explaining how this whole scandal is anti-Catholic.

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

too busy at a key party the local priests are throwing for some local latchkey altar boys?

19. mattes - 18 March 2010

God, I wish I could contribute to the on going healthcare debate, but after being diagnosed with a chronic illness {not of my own making} for close to 20 years, losing my business, home, and investment property and having submited to a caldron of pharmaceutials with no real quality of life improvement, what I really want is an unspecified amount of real money to go experiment with alternative care protocols. I know that won’t be happening….oh, did I mention, I worked for pharma many years.

marisacat - 18 March 2010

I am so sorry to hear that mattes….

It is a downward spiral with chrnic illness… one of the dirty secrets is that little “works”. Or inevitably works for a while, but not for very long.

Having been thru it and having withdrawn from all the ways of ”treatment”, I sympathise.

There will be no liberalisation of the medical protocols system we live under… the head fo the NIH under CLinton openly said that people with chronic illness and specifically with immune disorders were just losers in the Darwinian system.

So, it never looked good.

mattes - 18 March 2010

I hate talking about it because I am alittle embarrassed by the whole thing. I got out early, did not go into too much debt, sold my properties paid off all my bills {no bankruptcy} so at least I did not hurt my credit rating….woopeedoo, and now live very humbly. Could be worse I guess.

NOW….enough of the pity party!!

marisacat - 18 March 2010

well I got out with my life… and while a lot of cash is gone, I was able to preserve other things… Luckier than most, frankly, esp without a SO/spouse in the home and a second income.

I don’t actively go to the doctors as I haven’t the strength to defend myself from them anymore. Simple as that…

mattes - 18 March 2010

Don’t ask me why, but this year I have decided to give western medicine another try. Started up on new meds with new Dr.

Time will tell how it works out.

What I want to know is why so many people have immune disorders. Our food? Pollution? No one’s talking.

Immune disorders are the real pandemic, not the flu.

marisacat - 18 March 2010

well I think there is a problem that the food produced in the US has little actual nutrition. Any of it. the old saying here in Cali was that just because the Central Valley can produce 5 crops a year, doesn’t mean that it SHOULD. I think we leeched the land dry of nutrition. The laws dumbed down what is “organic” (don’t get me started) and then salt, grease and high fructose corn syrup.

otehr countries don’t ingest as much corn derivatives as we do, now there is a push back saying there is “no difference” between sugars and high fructose corn syrup. Well I would say there is.

And yo kno they bitch and moan over cigarette smoking but particle pollution is not a high priority. It jsut is not. Even here in Cali, with regulations and laws and this and that, still a ton of pollution. Very little clean up of toxic sites etc.

On and on it goes, wehre it ends…………..

mattes - 18 March 2010

Rachel Carson was so ahead of her time.

Pesticide Atrazine Can Turn Male Frogs Into Females

ScienceDaily (Mar. 1, 2010) — Atrazine, one of the world’s most widely used pesticides, wreaks havoc with the sex lives of adult male frogs, emasculating three-quarters of them and turning one in 10 into females, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, biologists.


A friend of mine’s husband is only in his mid thirties and just had to start testosterone shots.

….he works with pesticides.

And the NW is the hub of breast cancer and MS. Just how much fuel jet fumes in safe to inhale???

marisacat - 18 March 2010

Marin Co is either the highest incidence of breast cancer or close to it. Been that way for years…

catnip - 18 March 2010

I read a book last week about immune disorders that was interesting. I’ll post the title for you when I remember it. (Bad memory!)

catnip - 18 March 2010

Oh! Here it is:

The Autoimmune Epidemic

Frankly, I just don’t know what to do about my conditions anymore. Just treating the symptoms every day. I was on an anti-malarial a couple of years ago for lupus but I ended up with heat strokes twice in a week. So much for that.

I find this all very tiring – including trying to figure out what to do. Round and round it goes.

catnip - 18 March 2010

Ooops. I read that book last year – not last week. My memory isn’t quite THAT bad. 🙂

mattes - 18 March 2010

Very interesting, thanks for posting, I’d be reading it. One in every 9 women now.

Foreword to
The Autoimmune Epidemic
by Douglas Kerr, M.D., Ph.D.


Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

a week, a year … it’s all the same after a while!

20. marisacat - 18 March 2010

HA! Spining again that West Wings are smart about how they deploy Dear Leader, whoever he is.

Such bullsheisse.

March 18, 2010


Canceling the trip

The cancellation of President Obama’s trip to Asia marks the full reversal of the strategy his presidency began with: Flooding the zone with policy, keeping the President out of the weeds.

The decision to cancel his trip may look like a sign of urgency but it’s also, in the language of Washington, a sign of tremendous confidence: You don’t set the President of the United States up to experience humiliation in person. It’s being taken right now by people on both sides of the fight as the clearest sign yet that Nancy Pelosi has the votes. [yada yada yada]

UPDATE: And yet. Kate Pickert notes that Obama personally intervened in the lost Coakley cause, and flew to Europe in a fruitless quest for the Olympics. So don’t rule humiliation out entirely.

Posted by Ben Smith 01:17 PM

21. mattes - 18 March 2010

Bibi’s peace plan:

……………..However, according to Diehl’s blog entry, Netanyahu will offer “assurances that the new neighborhood will not be constructed anytime soon; it is, in fact, two or three years from groundbreaking.”

“Coupled to that would be an Israeli pledge to avoid publicizing further construction decisions in Jerusalem. The result would not be a freeze, but something like a ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy for settlements,” Diehl added.

22. mattes - 18 March 2010

What does THAT mean:

In recent days, the American and Israeli media have repeatedly quoted the musings of U.S. General David Petraeus, commander of CENTCOM, who reportedly warned his superiors and the U.S. administration that the freeze in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process and America’s support for Israel are endangering broader U.S. interests in the region. It turns out that Israel is indirectly responsible for bombs in Kandahar and Baghdad.


catnip - 18 March 2010


23. diane - 18 March 2010

wondering what it’s gonna be … a hit on Ratzy … momentarily at least, seems more likely than suicide .. but . then again who knows …

gotta run hon cuz I actually still do believe in a benevolent creator, despite all those odds against (as I’m sure you do get hon, and I do love you for not ridiculing me about that hon)

though I can certainly understand how the apparent residing sentiment came to pass.


24. diane - 18 March 2010

Oh and yeah, BoohoohooMan, I’m quite sure a likely rep on that “letter” could be from the Dominican Hospital in Santa Cruz California …..

Cali, a state where, somewhat ironically, Bishops, Episcopalian figure heads, and devout Buddhists of companies such as Raytheon, et al, seem to reign supreme

……………..especially when well connected with Sly Con Valley or HollowWood.

25. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

Loud sex is a reason for cops to search your home, rules court

Appealing the conviction, McGacken argued that, once police knew the noise was consensual sex, they no longer had reason to search his home.

But the appellate panel at the Superior Court of New Jersey disagreed. On Monday, they dismissed McGacken’s appeal, stating that “the potential for harm was too severe for the police to accept an explanation for loud screaming that could have been a cover-up of its true source.”

The ruling stated in part:

The police are not required to accept the explanation that a person answering the door gives for a distress call. While loud sex may have been a plausible source of screaming, that explanation was not so reliable that the police acted unreasonably in investigating further….

Moreover, by first questioning defendant and his girlfriend, the troopers discounted the possibility that someone may have made a false report of screaming. Defendant did not deny that screaming had occurred in his residence. His admission made it unnecessary for the police to seek corroboration to establish the reliability of the anonymous 911 call.

oh yes, land of the free.

marisacat - 18 March 2010

But the appellate panel at the Superior Court of New Jersey disagreed.

The Superior Court of New Jersey?

So the Guidas and Guidos had better watch it?


26. diane - 18 March 2010

Re comment 24:

Very sorry for not qualifying as follows:
devout Buddhists (in positions of High Power and Deadliness) of companies such as Raytheon…..

27. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

The Origami Congressman

Now, I like Kucinich. Really I do. But the only question with the guy isn’t if he’s going to fold, but when (and will it be a crane, or a fish, or a frog? Hey, cool, a panda this time!). As with the Iraq war platform plank sellout in 2004, so with the health care vote now.

Congressional Progressive Caucus members like Kucinich achieve nothing because their threats are empty, and everyone knows it. They achieve nothing because they’re willing to risk nothing. They’re taken for granted because they are in fact granted.

As with Progressive Democrats, so with progressives who vote for Democrats. Yes, they’re angry about Iraq and Afghanistan and civil liberties and bailouts and drone strikes and health care and every other atrocity the Democrats sponsor or support, but it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference, because everyone knows that no matter what happens they’ll still dutifully vote for those same Democrats. And until the day comes when they finally decide there is some shit they will not eat, they’ll continue to lose.

marisacat - 18 March 2010

…and will it be a crane, or a fish, or a frog? Hey, cool, a panda this time!

ah yes the wee Catholic from Cleveland.

One thing I noticed, the Italian tie he wore for his wee presser to cave was about 200.00 Or maybe that sort of silk runs $300 or more now.

Bakc in he 70s I went with a friend when he was shopping at Bijan on Rodeo Drive… As I wandered around with a glass of champagne I noticed a little framed list of names. Men who spent 10K in one go… a sort of celebrity clap on the back, I guess.

Jerry Brown’s name was there… this is back when the media was writing about his old blue Plymouth and other ascetic qualities (sometimes living at the Zen Center and so on) he supposedly had. Another name there was Eliot Richardson, of the Saturday Night Massacre, or whatever they called it under Nixon when he and Archibald Cox waved “bye”…

‘course Elliot never had thos silly affectations that Jerry did..

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

I can’t imagine blowing that kind of money on clothes.

marisacat - 18 March 2010

New list of names every month, too………… So that may have been just one drop in for Jerry.

28. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

Floyd joins in: Pressure Drop: Brave Sir Dennis Ran Away

Well, so much for conscience. The other day here, we had kind words for the stand taken by Dennis Kucinich against the boardroom-backroom boondoggle known as the health care bill. The main thrust of that post was not meant to be the innate wonderfulness of St. Dennis but the hypocrisy of the “Fightin’ Progressives,” such as Commander Kos and Alex Koppelman, who had launched a vituperative attack on Kucinich for daring to oppose the bill — a measure which not only represents a complete and craven surrender of even the smallest crumbs of the progressives’ original hopes for health care reform, but was also fatally tainted by the brazen bribe Obama took from the gorging, gouging drug and insurance cartels to make sure their destructive sway over American health care remains unbroken.

Still, I admit I was pleasantly surprised to see Kucinich stand up against the health care bill, apparently on principle, especially as he was also sponsoring a bill to end the Afghanistan War at the same time. (I realize the latter was a wholly symbolic act — then again, all acts are symbolic to one degree or another; that is, they symbolize the moral stance behind the act, whether it is effective or not. Thus, “savvy” compromises on, say, appropriations for the Terror War or detainee policy or illegal surveillance symbolize an underlying acceptance of atrocity, tyranny and war crime.)

But I suspected the fix was in when I saw reports that Kucinich was flying with Obama for a presidential appearance in Ohio. There was little or no chance that Kucinich would have been engaged in such high-profile hitchhiking if he was not already in the bag for Barack.

And so it proved. Kucinich’s cave-in did win him a respectful nod from the New York Times, which featured his turn-around in a front-page web story that had none of the usual snide asides about his “kooky” ideas that normally accompany any mainstream mention of him. The Washington Post kept the wonted snark, however, noting in its lede that:

…Kucinich, often a proponent of very liberal, unlikely ideas such as the creation of a “Department of Peace” and the impeachment of then-Vice President Cheney, has found his pragmatic streak.

Impeaching Dick Cheney! Gawd, what a loon, eh? And peace? We don’t need no stinkin’ peace.

marisacat - 18 March 2010

Maybe someday Kuc can write a book: How I fought back. Somewhat.

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

“How I Shadowboxed”


“The Hobbit or Not Quite There and Always Back Again”

CSTAR - 18 March 2010

The charge of the slight brigade.

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 March 2010

Little House Member on the Prairie

marisacat - 18 March 2010

oh good one!

29. catnip - 18 March 2010

From the Department of Whoops!

Pakistan arrests ‘halt secret UN contacts with Taliban’

The UN’s former envoy to Afghanistan, Kai Eide, has strongly criticised Pakistan’s recent arrest of high-ranking Taliban leaders.

Mr Eide told the BBC the arrests had completely stopped a channel of secret communications with the UN.

Pakistani officials insist the arrests were not an attempt to spoil talks.

Mr Eide confirmed publicly for the first time that his secret contacts with senior Taliban members had begun a year ago.

He said they involved face-to-face talks in Dubai and elsewhere.

“The first contact was probably last spring, then of course you moved into the election process where there was a lull in activity, and then communication picked up when the election process was over, and it continued to pick up until a certain moment a few weeks ago,” he said.

Mr Eide said there were now many channels of communication with the Taliban, including those involving senior representatives of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

Speaking at his home outside the Norwegian capital Oslo, Mr Eide would not comment on these other channels.

Dubai? Well, at least Mossad didn’t kill those guys too.

30. catnip - 18 March 2010

Government beer. How Canadian is that??

31. marisacat - 18 March 2010



…………….. 😯

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