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How is that vote working out for you? 31 March 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, California / Pacific Coast, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, The Battle for New Orleans, WAR!.

President Barack Obama gestures during remarks on energy security, Wednesday, March 31. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

”Energy security”….???

Somehow I see us all steel clamped in our large size baby cribs, the lights out.   I am sure that is a manic, paranoid reaction on my part. I must be ill, better take a pill. Or a few.

I see Michelle is babbling on, about spinach and broccoli.  With nearly a fifth of the nation on Food Stamps.



1. marisacat - 31 March 2010

I think the Obama administration gets a huge kick out of flipping the bird at the people who voted them into office…

It’s the only explanation for using old, years old, quotes from Colin Powell to file a brief in support of DADT.

That, or, Moe and Curley live, doing live acts daily, at the WH.. and at the DOJ.

marisacat - 31 March 2010

And, while I am at Tapper’s spot:

[T]he president called for Republicans, Democrats, business leaders, and environmentalists to all move beyond the “tired debates” over drilling.

I AGREE! I think we should be ”post debate”! Why not? Our “debate” is like some rigged noose, a big one – ’round our collective neck…

“[T]his issue’s just too important to allow our progress to languish while we fight the same old battles over and over again,” Obama said, “I’m open to proposals from my Democratic friends and my Republican friends. I think that we can break out of the broken politics of the past when it comes to our energy policy. I know that we can come together to pass comprehensive energy and climate legislation.” …

Does he EVER say anything else?

From the broken politics of the past to the broken politics of — YOU GUESSED IT! — …the politics of NOW.

catnip - 31 March 2010

Here’s Obama before he became drill, Barry, drill.

The only “friends” he’s interested in are his Corporate America buddies.

2. catnip - 31 March 2010

Federal Judge Finds N.S.A. Wiretapping Program Illegal

The ruling by Judge Walker, the chief judge of the Federal District Court in San Francisco, rejected the Justice Department’s claim — first asserted by the Bush administration and continued under President Obama — that the charity’s lawsuit should be dismissed without a ruling on the merits because allowing it to go forward could reveal state secrets.

Madman in the Marketplace - 31 March 2010

damned hippie

catnip - 31 March 2010

I know! He’s obviously not on board with that whole “moving forward” thing that Obama’s been peddling.

3. catnip - 31 March 2010

Hilariousness from the WH steno blackwaterdog at dkos:

Personally, i think that Barack Obama’s biggest problem is being decades ahead of the country he leads

marisacat - 31 March 2010

oh man. I don’t even know where to start with that one.

catnip - 31 March 2010

Maybe it’s some sort of back to the future thing? Is there a Delorean involved? That’s the question.

NYCO - 31 March 2010

Yes, Obama’s decades ahead of the rest of us… he’s already desperately jabbing his straw anywhere in the earth and praying that there’s oil there.

And sucking. Hard.

CSTAR - 31 March 2010

Captain Picard.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 March 2010
5. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 March 2010

Bill Donohue: Child Molesting Priests Weren’t Pedophiles Because Most Boys Were Post Pubescent

Bill Donohue: It’s not a pedophilia… most of the victims were post pubescent…

Roberts: You know…

Donohue: You’ve got to get your facts straight. I’m sorry. If I’m the only one that’s going to deal with facts tonight so be it. The vast majority of the victims are post pubescent. That’s not pedophilia buddy. That’s homosexuality.

Roberts: Bill, I don’t think as a person of faith that you really know what you’re talking about when it comes to a victim and a survivor. (crosstalk)

Donohue: It’s not of my opinion. Take a look at the social science data. I never said that most homosexuals are that way.

Roberts: No you just said that cut down homosexuals… (crosstalk).

Donohue: Yes! Practicing homosexuals.

O’Conner: Sorry Larry, at what age does somebody become, you know, post pubescent in America as a matter of ages?

King: What is the age?

Thomas: Ah… I don’t know. Let’s ask Bill. He seems to be the authority on post pubescency.

Donohue: 12, 13 years of age. Look, all I’m saying (crosstalk).

King: We’re out of time. We’ve just touched the surface. Now we’ve got Anderson Cooper coming on.

catnip - 31 March 2010

Why doesn’t Larry just retire already?

Madman in the Marketplace - 31 March 2010

this is the only hobby the home lets him have?

ts - 1 April 2010

I was wondering what happened to that guy.

So it’s all okay then!

brinn - 1 April 2010

WTF!?! 12 or 13 and it’s not pedophilia?!? MY GODDESS! Can you imagine if that was said about a 12 or 13 year old GIRL?! As the mother of two boys, I just have to say that if Bill Donohue comes anywhere near them, I WILL castrate his worthless carcass!

marisacat - 1 April 2010

They have been floating this for a long while… I forget the word for it, but the Catholics love to use it, illicit sexual relations with sort of on the bridge (13, 14) or else post pubescent. AND from there, they can easily seque to blaming the “sixties”. Horrors, they let in all these homosexual priests. Etc. IF they could ONLY purge the homos all of this would go away. LIBERALISM brought these issues to the church.

Yeah right.

I wait for some psychiatrist to write, for the general public, like an op ed or Sunday article.. HOW MANY pathologies the ministry of the church suffers from. Nut case, steroidal like, power trips for one!! It’s like the easy chatter that if only the Catholic priests could marry, so much of this would go away.

😆 yeah right. If that were true then only adult wimmens in the congrgations would be in flagrante delicto with the priest and hierarchy….

brinn - 1 April 2010

I wait for some psychiatrist to write, for the general public, like an op ed or Sunday article.. HOW MANY pathologies the ministry of the church suffers from.

Hear, hear! I wonder how long we’ll be waiting? *eyeroll*
[is there a way to type in a icon that “eyerolls”?}

marisacat - 1 April 2010


brinn - 2 April 2010

yebbut — how do I make it?! You taught me the sunglasses one a coupla years back… using the number 8, what do I type to make that one?

For someone who spends most of her life on the computer, it’s nice to know that I am still ignorant about the subtleties, right?


marisacat - 2 April 2010

: roll :

take out the spaces… 😉

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 31 March 2010
catnip - 31 March 2010

Good post. Thanks. I was hoping when I lived in town last year that they had a community garden. No such luck because it’s too much of a bedroom community and land prices were too “valuable” to allow for it – despite the fact that they have a food bank with regular clients who could use locally-grown food as well. I did sign up for the “Good Food Project” which involved buying (through the town from a wholesaler) bulk fruits and veggies once a month for a very decent price. But there’s nothing like growing your own.

Now that I’m back in the country, I actually have room for a garden again – although watering might be an issue (long story).

But I really like the community aspect of that post as well. Actions really do speak louder than words. (And you can turn conservatives into commies without them even realizing it. ) 🙂

Madman in the Marketplace - 31 March 2010

could you maybe set up a system to recycle grey water?

Look at me, city boy who wouldn’t be caught dead gardening, putting up posts about gardening and grey water …


I thought it was a very cool post.

catnip - 31 March 2010

Then I’d still have to haul it somehow. The problem, in a nutshell, is that the well water here isn’t good so using a hose is out. (We bring out water to drink). There’s a little slough near where I can plant the garden and I can use rain barrels but that also involves hauling so I’ll have to figure out the best way to handle it without killing my back.

Madman in the Marketplace - 31 March 2010

Something like this, maybe?

Irrigation Rain Barrel

catnip - 31 March 2010

Yes, I was thinking along those lines but that’s pretty expensive. I’ll have to see what I can find – or hack, maybe.

7. catnip - 31 March 2010

CIA given details of British Muslim students

Personal information concerning the private lives of almost 1,000 British Muslim university students is to be shared with US intelligence agencies in the wake of the Detroit bomb scare.

The disclosure has outraged Muslim groups and students who are not involved in extremism but have been targeted by police and now fear that their names will appear on international terrorist watch lists. So far, the homes of more than 50 of the students have been visited by police officers, but nobody has been arrested. The case has raised concerns about how the police use the data of innocent people and calls into question the heavy-handed treatment of Muslim students by UK security agencies.

8. diane - 31 March 2010

Wow, if they keep it up in DC, they’re going to get tendonitis in the middle fingers will all the repetitive motions they’ve been doing:

Congress misses deadline for payments to black farmers

By Krissah Thompson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 1, 2010

The federal government promised last month to pay more than $1 billion by the end of March to tens of thousands of black farmers who had filed decades-old discrimination complaints against the U.S. Agriculture Department.

But Congress headed home for a two-week recess without appropriating the money, and the farmers are frustrated that the agreement’s March 31 deadline was not met. The White House and congressional leaders say they want to pay the restitution, but farmers in the case say the government has been slow to deliver.

“The administration announced this settlement like this was all over, but we haven’t gotten a dime,” said John Boyd, president of the National Black Farmers Association. “Right now, it’s planting time, and we thought we would have the funds in time for this season.”


Some backgroundhere and here

marisacat - 31 March 2010

“Right now, it’s planting time, and we thought we would have the funds in time for this season.”

hmm that case has dragged on for so many years, maybe a couple of decades, I wonder how many are still alive from the original filing.

I read a few years ago that there was a move on around 1900, so one hundred and ten years ago by now, to set up a small pension fund for elderly, living former slaves. Plenty were still around who were born into slavery, after all. And these people, most of them, had nothing or next to nothing.

No go. Congress shot it down pronto.

diane - 31 March 2010

yeah, too bad about those crops, maybe next year?

a pox on DC…

I’ve sadly come to believe that there are actually those that really, really get off on the abuse they dish out, and the power they have to destroy lives.

diane - 31 March 2010

Oh and Happy Holy Season from Holy DC!


marisacat - 31 March 2010

Be intresting to see how the whole Vatican/Ratzi/JPII Save the Children! We did nto know! Save the Children! is going to work out.

They, all the “theys”, don’t care about the children, at all. So it is something else.

ABC tonight on Nightline ran a long segment on it…more on Maciel and the Legionaries of Christ and so on. Film of Maciel on his knees in front of JPII, slow mo air kiss air kiss air kiss. One quick shot of young priests with LofC…. all like peas in the pod. It’s been said and I have posted here, that Maciel wanted the most handsome accommodating well born men in his order, and their mission was the money they could get from rich women – and their children, as prey.

But how many decades now? It’s a scandal every decade. New wrinkels… til it blows over. I think it is almost two decades ago (maybe a little less) that the big exposure of Harry Connick SENIOR came down. He had been the 30 year CATHOLIC DA in NO…. with a lot of connected power, Catholic contacts, Catholics running insurance cos and so on. He protected the church to a near national level, for decades. Hush money. Ins coverage to save the church money…

… and supposedly the Cahtolic connected insruance money was drying up, so the story went… so things “would be changing”. Etc.

It’s not about the children, its about something ELSE the church is doing.

marisacat - 31 March 2010

I guess this is part of the big putsch that right now is highlighting LofC and Maciel… and I guess becasue there is talk of disbanding the order. well right they till they re-band under a new name. Supposedly the Order has taken in 20 billion for Rome over the years. I don’t know if that is global take or just in Mexico and US…

Geesh Good Luck:

A troubling order for the Catholic Church

The resolution of the Legionaries of Christ case also will be a test for its conservative American supporters.


March 31, 2010|Tim Rutten

One of the decisions confronting Pope Benedict XVI as he struggles to contain an abuse scandal whose tendrils now appear to extend into the Vatican may have a particular resonance in the United States.

That decision involves what to do about a wealthy and influential order, the Legionaries of Christ, and the worldwide lay movement it operates, Regnum Christi. The former includes 800 priests and the latter as many as 75,000 members. Around the globe, the Legionaries operate 120 seminaries, universities, schools and Catholic newspapers. Their ability to recruit future priests in an era of declining vocations has impressed the Vatican; today 2,600 are preparing for ordination in their seminaries.

Allegations of molestations circulated for years but broke into the open in 1997, when two reporters from the Hartford Courant produced a series that exposed Maciel’s misconduct. The Legionaries denied everything and hired top-drawer law and public relations firms to discredit the Courant and its reporters. An investigation was opened by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, but went nowhere, reportedly because John Paul didn’t believe the charges. …

And so on……………………..

diane - 1 April 2010

Read that bit about Maciel and the handsome requirement a short while back.

Yeah, the term “Predators” suits.

9. wu ming - 1 April 2010

folkbum‘s running for congress, unless this is some april fool’s joke.

marisacat - 1 April 2010

thannks for that wu ming….

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 April 2010

yup, was a joke … says he had to drop out because he’s Canadian.

10. catnip - 1 April 2010

CNN is showing Scott Roeder speaking at his sentencing – slamming Dr Tiller and justifying what he did.

catnip - 1 April 2010

At least they got a clue and eventually cut him off before he could finish.

brinn - 1 April 2010

That that fucker even gets a platform to make ANY utterance at all is a travesty — damn, I do hate this place sometimes!

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 April 2010

think that’s bad … the NPR Morning Edition coverage this morning was a long segment of his fans defending him:

LOHR: Roeder said he needed to protect unborn children and called Tiller a hit man. Anti-abortion activist, David Leach from Iowa, posted Roeder’s remarks on the Internet.

Mr. DAVID LEACH (Anti-abortion activist): Scott Roeder, at heart, is a law-abiding citizen.

LOHR: Leach is planning to testify as a character witness on Roeder’s behalf.

Mr. LEACH: Outside this one action, he has a clean record. He’s not a fellow who curses, drinks, smokes, does any of the things which you associate with that. He’s a churchgoer, and he would like to be a law-abiding citizen.

LOHR: Leach also believes abortion is murder. He says the judge should have given jury members instructions which would’ve allowed them to consider a lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter. Some who oppose abortion say they are counting on an appeal and hope to get assistance from several anti-abortion attorneys.

During the trial, prosecutors tried to keep the abortion issue out of the case. They called the act premeditated murder. Citing aggravating factors, prosecutors are now seeking a stiffer sentence life without parole for 50 years instead of 25 years. Some watching the case say even character witnesses probably won’t help Roeder avoid a stiffer sentence. Michael Kaye is a law professor at Washburn University in Topeka.

Professor MICHAEL KAYE (Law, Washburn University): The judge is going to have to weigh whatever evidence he brings against the aggravating factors. Among those factors is that prior stalking of the victim. And his testimony clearly established that he had stalked the victim.

LOHR:�Abortion-rights advocates say a harsh sentence in this case is key to preventing violence against abortion providers in the future. Vickie Saporta is with the National Abortion Federation.

Ms. VICKIE SAPORTA (President, National Abortion Federation): This was, in many ways, a hate crime. And those who are contemplating committing a similar crime need to understand that they will not get away with it and that they will spend the rest of their lives in prison.

It wasn’t a fucking ‘hate crime’ … what a fucking worthless, bloodless, silly phrase that is.




Pure and simple. He committed an act of violence against a target to advance a political cause.


So sick of wimpy “liberals”, and sicker of fake “liberal” media.

marisacat - 1 April 2010

LOHR:�Abortion-rights advocates say a harsh sentence in this case is key to preventing violence against abortion providers in the future. Vickie Saporta is with the National Abortion Federation.

Don’t think so… iirc it ws under Bush 2 that an abortion doc killer was put to death, think in FL…I don’t think it had any cautionary aspect. I am sure in the movment he is a martyr. Tho I never catch much explicit referencing to him on hard rightie sites.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 April 2010

nope, and why would it? If you take out the baby killer the Jewish Zombie and his Invisible Daddy will welcome you into heaven as a Xristian Soldier to sit at Invisible Daddy’s right red hand.

Seems worth the death penalty … if you’re a nut job zealot.

Maddow had a good segment on the hearings tonight. Transcript isn’t up yet, but video is.

marisacat - 1 April 2010

Speaking of Daddy and his right hand… I caught a segment on probably ABC, since they are hot to follow this… a 2009 or 2010 documentary on the abuse in the church, Vows of Silence. Gee what a good name. I checked Netflix quickly and did not find it… broader than just Boston environs and the 2001, 02, 03 flap…

11. diane - 1 April 2010

Finding the water warm, and the DC climate highly agreeable, Citizens United comes back for yet more: dunk the non corporate ‘citizens’ until they drown:

Citizens United challenges the … Supreme Court ruling

Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 1, 2010

Fresh off a landmark victory in the U.S. Supreme Court, the conservative advocacy group Citizens United is trying to get around one part of the ruling it didn’t like.

The group’s attorney, former solicitor general Theodore B. Olson, sent a letter to the Federal Election Commission on Monday arguing that Citizens United should not be subject to campaign-finance disclosure requirements because it is actually a “press entity” that produces and distributes documentary films.

The FEC exempts media organizations from campaign-finance laws even though many of them — such as The Washington Post — traffic heavily in political news and views. The FEC, Olson wrote, “should conclude that Citizens United’s documentary film activities are covered by both the media and commercial transaction exceptions.”

The letter underscores the fact that the conservative group was not wholly pleased with the high court’s decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. In the most-noticed part of the case, the court ruled 5 to 4 that corporations such as Citizens United could spend as much as they wanted for or against political candidates, prompting praise from conservatives and a tide of criticism from President Obama and other Democrats.

But there was another part of the ruling that Citizens United and other conservatives didn’t like so much. The court decided 8 to 1 that the government is well within its rights to require corporations and other entities to report their donors, expenditures and other campaign-related financial information. The ruling means that although Citizens United is now able to spend freely on elections, the group might be required to report more information about where it got its money and how it was spent.

In his letter to the FEC, Olson said the nonprofit group has produced and distributed 12 documentary films on a variety of subjects since 2004, including a 2008 production about then-Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, which formed the heart of the recent Supreme Court case. Citizens United has spent about 25 percent of its budget on films over the past six years and has been accredited as a member of the “press” when filming some news events, Olson added.

The group tried this tack once before, in 2004, but the FEC rejected the argument because Citizens United had “produced only two documentaries since its founding.” The group argues that the situation has changed.

“After a dozen films in six years, with more on the way, I think it is time that the FEC recognized us for what we are: a documentary filmmaking studio,” said David N. Bossie, Citizens United’s president. “Whether or not the FEC likes the content of our films, we should be allowed to produce, market and air our films without interference from the federal government.”

But Paul Ryan, associate counsel at the Campaign Legal Center, said the group has a tough sell because it admits that it still spends a majority of its time doing political advocacy. In 2004, Ryan said, the FEC also emphasized that Citizens United, unlike most media companies, was paying to have its documentaries aired, rather than being paid.

“Citizens United was arguing from the get-go that it didn’t want to comply with disclosure, but they lost that,” Ryan said. “Now they’re back with a new argument.”


And, what perfect timing, when all are looking at the eastern seaboard, coastal gang fuck.

“Citizens United,” ya just gotta love the undermining of the concept of citizens, and civilization.

And the adults say, evil doesn’t exist, though the youth are committing suicide, being slaughtered/droned, being raped, or, converting to predators themselves, in a hideous mimic of their ‘mentors,’ ……….. in droves.

diane - 1 April 2010

I get a bleak ‘kick’ (stomach spasm?) out of the fact that that was a staff writer, and that the full title (who chose that? either the staff writer to pass mustor, or an ‘editor’?) is:

“Citizens United challenges the strident side of Supreme Court ruling”

diane - 1 April 2010


I copied that web page at about 3:00AM EST 04/01/10, when it read:


i.e. I didn’t edit that, I did a paste and copy, though I was happily bemused by:


smooches to whomever, and seriously hope you don’t lose your shirt over that.

now it reads:
By Dan Eggen

not sure of what other changes there might be

12. diane - 1 April 2010

And the adults say, evil doesn’t exist

even worse, they hideously imply, that evil, is good.

eyes on you, Cheney, Bush, Addington, Yoo, BlumDIFI, is that you Obama? et al

diane - 1 April 2010

all the while, implying that actual good, is evil.

diane - 1 April 2010

implying that actual good, is evil.

come to think of it,
perhaps, even worse.
implying that
is irrelevant.

make way for physical pain
and mental torment
it’s all “good”

13. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 April 2010
diane - 1 April 2010

wow, that’s a priceless, photoshop job, the tophat perfects it.

14. catnip - 1 April 2010
15. catnip - 1 April 2010

I thought Obama was winning the war in Afghanistan.

Robert Fisk: Glossy new front in battle for hearts and minds

16. catnip - 1 April 2010
17. catnip - 1 April 2010

Shorter Armando: Booman is a fucking idiot.

marisacat - 1 April 2010

oh I am going to go read that……. give myself some amusement……….. 😆


18. marisacat - 1 April 2010



…………………… 8)

19. catnip - 1 April 2010

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