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I guess we showed them! 23 April 2010

Posted by marisacat in Bolivia - Evo Morales, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, South America, WAR!.

A sleeping polar bear is pictured in this photo taken by Amos Nachoum on the icy tundra of Admiralty Inlet on the Arctic's Baffin Island

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Pinkie slap, 2 and 3 million we withheld… but Morales is right…

From Cochabamba Bolivia where a few years ago pitched battles were fought in the streets, opposing Bechtel, who were privatising the water…

AMY GOODMAN: President Morales, who would be brought before a climate justice tribunal?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] First, the developed countries that are not respecting the Kyoto Protocol. It’s a basic document, the Kyoto Protocol. The developed countries should responsibly implement the provisions. We would begin with the countries that have not ratified or adopted the Kyoto Protocol, such as the government of the United States. And to that effect, you also have the International Court of Justice. So this is a new organization that would grow out of this event, this world movement for the rights of Mother Earth. This world movement for the rights of Mother Earth should already bring an action, as I say, against the countries that have not ratified the Kyoto Protocol. And second, those that have ratified it, but are not implementing the Kyoto Protocol.

AMY GOODMAN: We’re talking to President Evo Morales, the president of Bolivia.

Yesterday at the Earth Day rally, the foreign minister of Ecuador said that the US had cut two-and-a-half million dollars to Ecuador because they didn’t sign onto the Copenhagen Accord. He said he would give two-and-a-half million dollars to the United States if they signed onto the Kyoto Protocol.

Bolivia, the US cut two-and-a-half million dollars, or $3 million, because you didn’t sign onto the Copenhagen Accord. Can you explain what happened?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] The thing is that there’s permanent sabotage and blackmail from the US government. I cannot believe that a black president can have so much vengeance with an Indian president, because our grandparents and our populations, black and indigenous, have been excluded, marginalized, humiliated. [of course, that assumes there is a conscious will with Obama to do differently.  Change, ya know…]

That’s where Obama is coming from, from that experience and that suffering. And me, too. And so, it’s one who’s been discriminated against discriminating against another who’s been discriminated against, one oppressed who is oppressing another oppressed. So much blackmail, and the so much blackmail we had experienced before, and now I’m being subject to $3 million blackmail.

But it’s with great pride and humility that we’re now better off without the United States. We’re better off economically. And in terms of macroeconomic policy, we’re better off without the International Monetary Fund.

AMY GOODMAN: What was the $3 million supposed to be for, before it was cut?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] Of course, for social programs, as well as environmental programs, but that’s just $3 million. In terms of fighting drug trafficking, they have the responsibility to make an investment, and that it’s not just a question of cooperation, it’s a matter of an obligation on their part. Nonetheless, they have pulled out, and we are facing drug trafficking alone—some crumb to make it seem like something, certainly. And so, for example, I had information that they were going to invest in the Millennium Development Account, like $600 million, and they withdrew all of it. And so, we worked this out with other countries. We’re talking about investment. One is not going to raise that claim about this. We are a country of dignity.

But what they do is take vengeance, intimidate. And that is why my doubt is, one who has been subjugated, one’s family has been subjugated to discrimination, is now president; how is it possible that he can discriminate against another movement that has been discriminated against? It is the peoples who will hear.

AMY GOODMAN: Do you see a change between President Bush and President Obama?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] If something is changed, it’s just the color of the president that’s changed.  …snip…

Blunt talk.

And this:

AMY GOODMAN: The proposals that have come out of this conference, this summit, can you name them and explain them, beginning with the climate justice tribunal?

PRESIDENT EVO MORALES: [translated] For example, the developed countries should respect the Kyoto Protocol, and that means put it into practice, the 50 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions; and that the global temperature increase should be a maximum one-degree Centigrade; that a climate justice tribunal should be established, based in Cochabamba—and I say thank you very much to the social movements who approved this proposal that it be based here; that there should continue to be a debate or there still is a debate on having a world referendum on climate change; that the economic resources spent on defense and wars should be for life and for nature.

According to information we have, we find that the developed countries spend $1.7 trillion, supposedly for defense and international security, but that actually means in military intervention in other countries. Imagine, with $1.7 trillion for life and for nature, that would be so important. And that is the right of Mother Earth, the right to regenerate Mother Earth’s caring capacity. It’s very important.




1. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 April 2010

Evo is great.

2. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 April 2010
marisacat - 23 April 2010


Mostly poor women, mostly women of color:

The reports said that the cultures in some African countries made it almost impossible for a young woman to disobey an older man, especially one seen as spiritually superior. There were cases of novices who applied to their local priest or bishop for certificates of good Catholic practice that were required for them to pursue their vocation. In return they were made to have sex. Some incidents of sexual abuse allegedly took place almost within the Vatican walls.

And, of course, while the Church is all about trying to deny regular women access to birth control and abortion, the women its priests rape are at times forced to have abortions:

The Vatican reports cited countless cases of nuns forced to have sex with priests. Some were obliged to take the pill, others became pregnant and were encouraged to have abortions. In one case in which an African sister was forced to have an abortion, she died during the operation and her aggressor led the funeral mass.

hmm I am thinking more and more, it will be an African pope, or one will come very very close and the story of how close will be used and used as PR. Pay off, hush money and a sop to all the maimed and dead.

What a church.

marisacat - 23 April 2010

Thsi si the movie I have been trying to think of for weeks… The Devils, based on The Devils of Loudon by Aldoous Huxley… a Ken Russel film from 1971


marisacat - 23 April 2010

… not even mentioned at Netflix……………….

Madman in the Marketplace - 23 April 2010

a lot of Ken Russell’s films are hard to find.

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 April 2010

Dear Ladies: Why Don’t You Just Die Already?

(Note: I am, uh, something or other, to have the President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, as a guest poster on my blog today. I would appreciate it if all rotten tomatoes, expletives and track shoes could be thrown at him instead of me. Thank you.)

Hello, sweeties! Yes, it’s me, BarackStar, his Barackiness, El Presidente, the Commander-In-Chief, talking to YOU. Aren’t you excited? Baby, I’m all about you. I swear those other women meant nothing to me!

Wait. What was I talking about?

Oh, yeah. Keep it on track, Barack! So, uh, I hear some of you fine ladies are feeling “periodically down” about my latest Health Whatever Bill. First there was my Executive Order on abortion, which I attached to the aforementioned Bill. Some of you more irrational types were whining about me using your rights as a bargaining chip. Whatever! Then, there was a big brouhaha just because some insurance companies picked on a few women with breast cancer, who were only going to need some super-expensive “Cadillac” care anyway. So, seems like I might have been, uh, um, uh, er, uh, stretching the truth a little when I said “if you like your insurance you can keep it.”

Ha ha ha ha! I’m sorry, I just can’t believe you bought that shit. If I actually cared about your health, I would have pushed for some kinda expansion of Medicare, or at least deigned to allow that crappy “public option” nonsense a little breathing room. Oh, not that it was ever anything but a distraction, don’t get me wrong, but it was kinda fun the way I crushed it right away in the press, meanwhile pushing all the “progressive” bloggers to quash single-payer and substitute the PO instead. I never had any intention of expanding the public sector in any way, nor will I ever do so, but I’ll surely appreciate all the great press you’ll be giving me in the meantime so you can get on Air Force One and MSNObama and scream about so-called “teabaggers” (good one, Rachel baby!) and Sarah Palin all day long. Ha ha ha ha ha! Good times!

marisacat - 23 April 2010

Oh, yeah. Keep it on track, Barack! So, uh, I hear some of you fine ladies are feeling “periodically down” about my latest Health Whatever Bill

I’d forgotten that snide and out-of-date-in-its-meaness-and-juvenile-condescension swipe he took back in the primaries.

he is such a tedious shit.

ts - 23 April 2010

he’s D-ridin Obama after all…

ms_xeno - 24 April 2010


I still treasure my old Boondocks icon with Ralph Nader yelling at Dubois, “You’re too much of a punk DEMOCRAT!”

So at least somebody isn’t wandering around hypnotized. Good to know.

ms_xeno - 24 April 2010

I love that apparently people find this rant racist.

I guess WOC never need cancer treatment or reproductive care. Ho hum.

Also, don’t talk about metaphorically throwing tomatoes and shoes at the Supreme Leader, because that’s obviously a call for assassination.

Sweet zombie Jesus…

marisacat - 24 April 2010

…be interesting to hear the 94% of blacks who support Ob when the full bore of the HC Insurance Mandate IRS Etc ”Reform” comes down.

snicker… ’til then I will keep saying just what I like. Mebbee they and the wood for brains white liberals should get busy and go volunteer for the ongoing wars…


ms_xeno - 24 April 2010

Might as well avoid the rush. Personally, I figure that if he’s re-elected, there’ll be a return to the draft. He’ll be a lame duck then, so what will his fan club be able to do about it?

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 April 2010

A little shameless something from Wellpoint’s rebuttal to the latest information about their screwing over of women w/ breast cancer:

To be fair, WellPoint has published a lengthy counterargument. They do point out that they have a lot of clients and they do have detection and prevention programs in place, which is good; nowhere do they refute the news report that they “automatically targeted patients recently diagnosed with breast cancer, among other conditions.” In fact, they’re basically admitting it, and all they say that’s relevant is that they do not single out women with breast cancer. Which the original article did not claim.

There is one small piece of WellPoint’s letter that is unintentionally amusing.

Madame Secretary, a three-story pink ribbon hangs in the lobby of our Indianapolis headquarters for many reasons.

I hate those stupid ribbons for everything: they seem to be more a blind and completely empty acknowledgment of a problem with no solution or even any real effort behind them. Want to claim you support something? Slap a magnetic ribbon on your car. Done. If you really want to pretend you care, put up a three-story tall ribbon in your lobby. Is anyone impressed?

marisacat - 23 April 2010

gee I am surprised it was not a three story pink teddy bear hanging from the ceiling in the lobby. You know, pink teddy bear hanging from a noose.

Which is basically how they view sick people… please just take your ‘shut yo mouf’ toy and go die. Don’t call us and we for sure as hell won’t be calling you.

catnip - 23 April 2010

Oh, but Sebelius wrote Wellpoint a sternly-worded letter. So it’s all good.

ms_xeno - 24 April 2010

They’re not real ribbons because you could get one of those around a CEO’s neck, quite readily if it were long enough…

I can dream, can’t I?

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 April 2010

Naomi Klein: A New Climate Movement in Bolivia

That’s because the actions causing the melting are taking place not in Bolivia but on the highways and in the industrial zones of heavily industrialized countries. In Copenhagen, leaders of endangered nations like Bolivia and Tuvalu argued passionately for the kind of deep emissions cuts that could avert catastrophe. They were politely told that the political will in the North just wasn’t there. More than that, the United States made clear that it didn’t need small countries like Bolivia to be part of a climate solution. It would negotiate a deal with other heavy emitters behind closed doors, and the rest of the world would be informed of the results and invited to sign on, which is precisely what happened with the Copenhagen Accord. When Bolivia and Ecuador refused to rubber-stamp the accord, the US government cut their climate aid by $3 million and $2.5 million, respectively. “It’s not a free-rider process,” explained US climate negotiator Jonathan Pershing. (Anyone wondering why activists from the global South reject the idea of “climate aid” and are instead demanding repayment of “climate debts” has their answer here.) Pershing’s message was chilling: if you are poor, you don’t have the right to prioritize your own survival.

When Morales invited “social movements and Mother Earth’s defenders…scientists, academics, lawyers and governments” to come to Cochabamba for a new kind of climate summit, it was a revolt against this experience of helplessness, an attempt to build a base of power behind the right to survive.

The Bolivian government got the ball rolling by proposing four big ideas: that nature should be granted rights that protect ecosystems from annihilation (a “Universal Declaration of Mother Earth Rights”); that those who violate those rights and other international environmental agreements should face legal consequences (a “Climate Justice Tribunal”); that poor countries should receive various forms of compensation for a crisis they are facing but had little role in creating (“Climate Debt”); and that there should be a mechanism for people around the world to express their views on these topics (“World People’s Referendum on Climate Change”).

marisacat - 23 April 2010

oh thanks for posting that… 😉

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 April 2010


6. Madman in the Marketplace - 23 April 2010

Bageant: The Middle Class Game Is Up: We’re Heading to a Slave Labor Planet

Between the corporate and financial elites and the slobbering masses stands the American Information Class — the reporters, talking heads, news anchors and pundits. In short, the entire gaggle of meat puppets and journalism hacks who have been cultivated and bred to be clueless by the university industry and others serving our corporate empire. In other words, serving global capitalism, and the national fictions it maintains, including that sizable piece of corporate feudal turf known as America. And that fiction is maintained through la danse des marionnettes de viande.

Not that these meat puppets are to be pitied for their cluelessness. Lordy no! When your employer is throwing celebrity and money at you faster than you can suck up the adulation or blow the bucks, why would anybody pause long enough to get a clue. I sure as hell wouldn’t. I’d pull a Bill Clinton, buy me some Cuban cigars and tell the secretary, “Under the desk, baby! And crack open a bottle of of Jack Daniels for me on your way down.”

It’s certainly an easy gig. Move your lips like a reporter, wear a black shirt and a $600 bush jacket in disaster and war porn spots as Anderson Cooper does, and make at least 4 million a year base salary (plus a few hundred thousand more a year in speakers fees for canned talks. Cooper’s agency will provide the list). Anderson’s basic message is that the world is a horrific place filled with miserable inferior lives, ridden by want, African machete amputations and the like. The guy in front of the flat screen in Cedar Rapids, Iowa doesn’t even have to stop and think to draw the corpo-state approved conclusion Anderson delivers. It’s instantaneous into his deep reptilian brain: “Hatians fucked. Iraqis fucked. Greeks fucked. Me live in best place of all.”

7. catnip - 23 April 2010

Just because I can…

marisacat - 23 April 2010

verrrry clever… cat eats orange canary…

8. marisacat - 24 April 2010

Jesus…………. thsi should put a cold breeze up the Holy Roman Chrch…

An Oregon jury awards 18.5 million in punitive damages to a former Boy Scout.

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 April 2010
10. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 April 2010
marisacat - 24 April 2010

I am a little surprised, there has been commentary at KGO that he should return he money to GS employees.

As if it mattered.

One thing about the Congress and the WH, whoever is in it, GOD DAMN FUCKING GONE, to the extent it ever was.

11. diane - 24 April 2010


I get the feel (from what I’ve read….and yes, …I’ll admit, from a knee jerk response……well, I am an animal after all, like the rest of us reading here, ….and animals, as we witness, and love them, are filled with knee jerk responses ……….), that Evo Morales, is, ….. every bit the shack bully that Obooyah, et al….is/are/were….


marisacat - 24 April 2010

I think therer is a good chance not… Lula… not sure of at all, maybe better than has been but ……. not so much. Chavez… well…. again, better than has been… but worrisome.

Bachelet, went weak fast.

And so on.

diane - 24 April 2010

What I mean,…precisely,..is that

No one in these times, attains that large of a voice

at the end of the day

unless they are hooked up to Money, and likely ….death,

whether that death be quick,

or relentlessly


marisacat - 24 April 2010

Honestly I don’t see that “these times” are so different from any other times.

diane - 24 April 2010

well…and I’m just one of multitudes…my knee jerk, is a quickening of misery…if that makes any sense…

to put it primatively, in prior eras, there was always that “country” which was doing so very fine, thank ya verry much (an elvis moment from a lonely hideous death on a toilet….)

now days, hard put to find that free and easy country……..

12. catnip - 24 April 2010

On HBO tonite: You Don’t Know Jack” – about Jack Kevorkian

Just watching it now…

marisacat - 24 April 2010

it really flips the State out – and the fucking Churches – that people be allowed to end their lives.

diane - 24 April 2010

yet, the question that is so begging, and suspicious…is why does this (death) seem to be the intellectually promoted answer, when actually it seems it would be quite easy to make the world inhabitable by humans who not only find value in themselves …but in the world that surrounds them

the punch line being, the world could be made that easy, by those same intellectuals (and it is certainly questionable, if you dig under rocks, as to whether the Dems versus the Repubs are the most powerful of those supposed intellects …indeed….is there any difference between the two?) who are appearing to love death and $Green Funerals

marisacat - 24 April 2010

Well I think the main function of the Democrats and the Republicans is as painted artifice. keep the people believing and voting. If voting day keeps occuring, the representative democracy must exist. Etc.

End of story.

diane - 24 April 2010

End of story.

alas, unfortunately

no, it isn’t the end of that story…

unless billions are irrelevant at the end of the day

I doubt that they are irrelevant

marisacat - 24 April 2010

In terms of the visuals keeping the fiction going, it is.

Take a break diane.

diane - 24 April 2010

I actually had started on that break, and, was logging off, when I read your dismisive comment to “take a break;” which, this is a response to.

have a good weekend all,

Evo is an asshole!

diane - 24 April 2010

who are appearing to love death and $Green Funerals

but only, for humans

which they, presumably are

though show absolutely no signs of

wanting to die

or even agreeing that they should/will


13. diane - 24 April 2010

I really think you should, at the least, post my reply to your comment:

In terms of the visuals keeping the fiction going, it is.
Take a break diane

And the fact that that was the only, as yet, not to be seen comment, that I made today (as pissy drunk, as I may get…from time to time………….)

If not, ya’ve got the nerve talking bout other’s being stifled.

14. diane - 24 April 2010

ah well,

to my last, of only two, unposted comments at a minute, plus minus, short of 10:15PM California 9th, 8th? largest economy of the world, time:

A stick, a stone,
It’s the end of the road,
It’s the rest of a stump,
It’s a little alone
It’s a sliver of glass,
It is life, it’s the sun,
It is night, it is death,
It’s a trap, it’s a gun
The oak when it blooms,
A fox in the brush,
A knot in the wood,
The song of a thrush
The wood of the wind,
A cliff, a fall,
A scratch, a lump,
It is nothing at all
It’s the wind blowing free,
It’s the end of the slope,
It’s a beam, it’s a void,
It’s a hunch, it’s a hope
And the river bank talks
of the waters of March,
It’s the end of the strain,
The joy in your heart
The foot, the ground,
The flesh and the bone,
The beat of the road,
A slingshot’s stone
A fish, a flash,
A silvery glow,
A fight, a bet,
The range of a bow
The bed of the well,
The end of the line,
The dismay in the face,
It’s a loss, it’s a find
A spear, a spike,
A point, a nail,
A drip, a drop,
The end of the tale
A truckload of bricks
in the soft morning light,
The shot of a gun
in the dead of the night
A mile, a must,
A thrust, a bump,
It’s a girl, it’s a rhyme,
It’s a cold, it’s the mumps
The plan of the house,
The body in bed,
And the car that got stuck,
It’s the mud, it’s the mud
Afloat, adrift,
A flight, a wing,
A hawk, a quail,
The promise of spring
And the riverbank talks
of the waters of March,
It’s the promise of life
It’s the joy in your heart
A stick, a stone,
It’s the end of the road
It’s the rest of a stump,
It’s a little alone
A snake, a stick,
It is John, it is Joe,
It’s a thorn in your hand
and a cut in your toe
A point, a grain,
A bee, a bite,
A blink, a buzzard,
A sudden stroke of night
A pin, a needle,
A sting, a pain,
A snail, a riddle,
A wasp, a stain
A pass in the mountains,
A horse and a mule,
In the distance the shelves
rode three shadows of blue
And the riverbank talks
of the waters of March,
It’s the promise of life
in your heart, in your heart
A stick, a stone,
The end of the road,
The rest of a stump,
A lonesome road
A sliver of glass,
A life, the sun,
A knife, a death,
The end of the run
And the riverbank talks
of the waters of March,
It’s the end of all strain,
It’s the joy in your heart.

15. marisacat - 24 April 2010



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