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Swimming in oil 1 May 2010

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, The Battle for New Orleans.

A Kemp's ridley turtle swims in the confines of a tub at the lab in Galveston, Texas

Southern US Gulf states prepare for oil disaster after Deepwater Horizon slick begins to come ashore …  The Gulf Coast region is teeming with hundreds of species of bird and marine life.

A Kemp’s ridley turtle swims in the confines of a tub at the lab in Galveston, Texas    [AP]


I think the ridley turtle is related to the giraffe family… 😉

I heard tonight that the nation gets 40% of its fish from the Gulf waters off Louisiana…




1. marisacat - 1 May 2010

Jesus is gonna be wheels down.

Obama to Visit Scene of Spill

Wall Street Journal – Jonathan Weisman – ‎30 minutes ago‎

WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama will travel to the Gulf of Mexico within the next 48 hours to tour regions threatened by a huge oil spill, a White House official said Saturday.


The LAT is calling it a “volcano”.

Maybe the blazing light of his halo will stun people. Back into belief.

2. diane - 1 May 2010

They need to pull the money from their Death Games in the Middle East to do something about the oncoming death to the coastline, and provide permanent income for those who made their meager livings which may now be destroyed because of a Government which appears to regulate everything but its, too big too fail, partners in crime.

What a nightmare:

Experts fear marshland will suck up oil like ‘a big sponge,’ poisoning wildlife

By David A. Fahrenthold and Juliet Eilperin

updated 4:14 a.m. ET May 1, 2010

Experts say it’s not clear yet how much the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico will harm the environment along the coasts of Louisiana, Mississippi and other gulf states. But they say it is clear the harm will be great.

That stretch of coastline is full of marshlands, replete with reeds and piles of dead grass that could soak up oil like a sponge. Unlike fish, the area’s famous populations of blue crabs and oysters won’t be able to outrun the slick. And, precisely at this time of year, the region is host to vast numbers of migratory birds returning from their wintering grounds in South America.

Besides the damage to fish and wildlife, even the land itself could be a victim of the spill. One scientist said if the oil kills marsh grasses, it could eliminate a key natural barrier that keeps Louisiana’s precious coastline from eroding.


“It’s about as bad a time as you could pick,” said Parr, of the American Bird Conservancy.


No escape
Scientists said that many species of fish may simply swim away from the advancing oil slick — although, as it spreads, there may be fewer clean waters to flee to.

For gulf animals not fleet enough to escape, including many crabs, oysters and shrimp, a coating of oil could be toxic. These species are crucial to the region’s fishing villages, and the country’s seafood supply: At last count, Louisiana fishermen hauled in about 10 percent of the nation’s total seafood catch, by weight.

The spill also poses a serious threat to two threatened species of sea turtles that nest at Bon Secour National Wildlife Refuge, loggerhead and Kemp’s ridley, though it could also harm the endangered green and leatherback turtle species, which come ashore along refuge beaches.

Dolphins are also vulnerable, according to Randy Wells, senior conservation scientist at the Chicago Zoological Society, because they must surface twice a minute in the oil slick for air, and would inhale the fumes from it.

“It’s a very scary proposition,” Wells said, adding that that scientists do not have an up-to-date count of area dolphin populations because the shallow waters are difficult to work in and due to a lack of federal funding.”

marisacat - 1 May 2010

I was just about to google around and see what news there was of the what CAUSED the explosion… when I happened on a comment, just a comment in a thread, at HuffPo… the commenter had heard one of the survivors on the radio… working on the platform.

A huge natural gas bubble rose and engulfed the platform, then the explosion.

What a fucking mess…

Love all the pics of the booms floating around at newspapers around the globe. They are useless in choppy water, which is what is happening. They need under 5 ft seas. The waters have been choppy, to 8 – 15 ft. The booms are uselessly pushed close in to the coast and wetlands…

The whole ”response” has been one huge floundering non event from minute one.

diane - 1 May 2010

I was wondering the same thing about the cause. With the ghastly output over safety and quality ethic so entrenched, it’s amazing more of these nightmare disasters don’t occur.

I remember years ago doing assembly work, and watching people punished for their quality concerns, along with safety procedures which in some cases were totally absent. Will never forget running into someone a few years later who lost half of his arm and some fingers on the other hand using a press that had tons of force to it, at a company I had worked at. I had used one of those presses, and remembered an absence of required safety shields.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

I appreciate the links in the last thread. This is just getting more and more horrible.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

oh thank you…

yeah it is… it is so clear who runs whom here. BP is fucking running the show with pretzellina and his “cabinet” (and Coast Guard and various federal agencies) mincing and dancing.

Transracial minstrel show.

3. marisacat - 1 May 2010


I can see you have a comment that fell to Moderation (via email). I cannot get thru to the back pages of WP to let it thru.

so irritating.

diane - 1 May 2010

Were you referring to the second I made? Both of the comments I made are showing currently.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

I don’t knwo by now… I finally made it to the back pages. gah.

diane - 1 May 2010

well, don’t worry about any of my comments, they’re all showing.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

AT&T asks government to create national censorwall and system for disconnecting accused infringers

But that doesn’t mean AT&T is opposed to various forms of “three strikes” or “graduated response” programs meant to deter online copyright infringement; it just wants someone else to implement them. If the government wants to get into the enforcement business, AT&T would be fine with that. Actually, the company would be more than fine with the proposal–it suggests that the government get into the business of adjudicating such cases and dishing out penalties.

This might sound like a role for the courts, but AT&T and rightsholders argue that the current legal process is simply too slow and too expensive to deal wisely with online copyright infringement. Instead, AT&T proposes a “streamlined and reasonable adjudication system for rights holders to resolve civil infringement claims against end users.” Call it “court lite…”

Also, AT&T thinks that getting the US government into website blocking would be a pretty terrific idea. AT&T suggests that the Department of Justice “create and maintain a list of international websites known to host and traffic in infringed copyrighted works.”

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

Ronald Reagan’s occult interests

Hall’s concise volume (“The Secret Destiny of America”) described how America was the product of a “Great Plan” for religious liberty and self-governance, launched by a hidden order of ancient philosophers and secret societies. In one chapter, Hall described a rousing speech delivered by a mysterious “unknown speaker” before the signing of the Declaration of Independence. The “strange man,” wrote Hall, invisibly entered and exited the locked doors of the Philadelphia statehouse on July 4th, 1776, delivering an oration that bolstered the wavering spirits of the delegates. “God has given America to be free!” commanded the mysterious speaker, urging the men to overcome their fears of the noose, axe, or gibbet, and to seal destiny by signing the great document. Newly emboldened, the delegates rushed forward to add their names. They looked to thank the stranger only to discover that he had vanished from the locked room. Was this, Hall wondered, “one of the agents of the secret Order, guarding and directing the destiny of America?”

At a 1957 commencement address at his alma mater Eureka College, Reagan, then a corporate spokesman for GE, sought to inspire students with this leaf from occult history. “This is a land of destiny,” Reagan said, “and our forefathers found their way here by some Divine system of selective service gathered here to fulfill a mission to advance man a further step in his climb from the swamps.”

Reagan then retold (without naming a source) the tale of Hall’s unknown speaker. “When they turned to thank the speaker for his timely words,” Reagan concluded, “he couldn’t be found and to this day no one knows who he was or how he entered or left the guarded room.”

marisacat - 1 May 2010

IMO He was managed very early. As was Obster.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

these “leaders” are cultivated, nursed into place … always amazed by how paltry they turn out to be.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

yeah I went back and forth on Obster… how long with a saddle and bridle. And of course there is very inflammatory stuff, speculation, at Rightie sites.

But I have come to think, a long time. Maybe between Occidental and Columbia… Maybe at Occidental. I think the trip to Pakistan at 20 or so, is a big clue.

diane - 1 May 2010

glad I’m not the only one who thinks there’s a certain long term grooming process.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

oh it’s a given I think… Jonathan Turley had a great line he used about Roberts when that particular flimflam process was going on …. that he was “hydroponically raised for the CJ position”.

I loved it!

6. marisacat - 1 May 2010

I jsut stumbled on this via AP… geesh.

There was a stray comment yesterday as the oil came in to the Delta, that they may have to close the Mississippi River. I noticed that did not get repeated. Too inflammatory.

Ian R. MacDonald, an oceanography professor at Florida State University, said his examination of Coast Guard charts and satellite images indicated that 8 million to 9 million gallons had already spilled by April 28.

“I hope I’m wrong. I hope there’s less oil out there than that. But that’s what I get when I apply the numbers,” he said.

Alabama’s governor said his state was preparing for a worst-case scenario of 150,000 barrels, or more than 6 million gallons per day. At that rate the spill would amount to a Valdez-sized spill every two days, and the situation could last for months.

“I hope they can cap this and we talk about ‘remember back when,'” Gov. Bob Riley said late Friday, “but we are taking that worst-case and building barriers against it.”

Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry brushed off such fears, saying “I would caution you not to get fixated on an estimate of how much is out there.” [bitch]

“This is highly imprecise, highly imprecise,” agreed Doug Suttles, BP’s chief operating officer for exploration and production. “We continue to respond to a much more significant case so that we’re prepared for that in the eventuality that the rate is higher.”

BP suggested in a 2009 exploration plan and environmental impact analysis for the well that an accident leading to a giant crude oil spill — and serious damage to beaches, fish and mammals — was unlikely, or virtually impossible.


I am so tired of the Coast Guard Bitches. By now they are both up in the shitsphere with the light skinned Honore de Foo Foo (forget his last name), the retired general Bush sent down to NO to “oversee” things.

It was clear who was in charge. Civilian leaders deferred to Honore. Which of course is fascism. In my book anyway.

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010
marisacat - 1 May 2010

.. and of course we have bee taught to love admire and cherish the sage of Newport Beach.


I read somewhere last week, that Buffet made an earlier, undisclosed 5 billion dollar investment in GS… aside from the 5 billion dollar share that he showily made during the big crash days, to remind us who runs what.

So skerewrerewddd

catnip - 2 May 2010

I wrote about that in a comment here last week after watching somebody – Blankfein’s (?) testimony where he admitted that.

And, again, just watching Fareed Zakaria interviewing him for “GPS” today, Blankfein’s response to whether Tarp funds were necessary for GS is the same as it was when he testified: it wasn’t really the money that they needed – it was confidence in “the system” that the money gave Wall Street.

It was all a shell game.

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010
marisacat - 1 May 2010

oh my goodnes… I saw that at HuffPo and I thoght it was satire………….. for real?

I came to my senses a bit and awkwardly went back home before we both got too carried away. This is to say, I said to myself that there would be no other former Treasury Secretary appendages entering any other of my orifices.

I have to say the men who look like Bob Rubin never inspired any thoughts like that. For me, I mean.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

I think it’s more about the look of his wallet.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

oh yeah right. men like Rubin look like corpses to me. I mean, really they do. That sagged out look, sallow, hollow eyes, dark circles.

It always seems to me they would, bluntly put, smell bad.

BooHooHooMan - 1 May 2010

Could be worse.

Never date a man raised on chicken feed steroids.


{ I never miss an opportunity to bust his balls. } LOL.

9. marisacat - 1 May 2010

a little bit of a breakthru… lotsa people think the CSM is some vector for Genuine Journalism… etc…

As estimates of the spill increase, questions about the government’s honesty in assessing the spill are emerging. At the same time, pressure is building for the US to release worst-case scenario estimates so residents of the Gulf Coast can adequately prepare. [10 days later… or is it 11 now… ] ….

And near the top they quote, but play down as did the NYT, the Raines report in the Mobile Press Register of the leaked memo of worst case. (al.com link in the previous thread)

Geesh, at least the NYT linked back to it… and a least the ALABAMA paper carried the Raines report, with links and pics and references.

But it is something.

First it was the size of RI, then PR… now it is “Jamaica sized”… whatever guys….

“In the environmental arena, risk modeling is done day-in and day-out for every type of pollutant, whether going in the water, earth or air,” says Stuart Smith, an environmentl attorney in New Orleans, in a statement.

“Why are BP and the Environmental Protection Agency not releasing such information to the public?

After originally saying the rig wasn’t leaking at all, the Coast Guard originally used estimates in part provided by BP to describe the size of the spill as 1,000 barrels a day.

The Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded on March 20, killing 11 and injuring 17 of a 126-member crew. It exploded again and sank 36 hours later. The resulting leak has created a Jamaica-sized oil slick that is now whirling in a hurricane shape into sensitive marshes of the Louisiana coastline, endangering birds, fish, oysters, and many peoples’ livelihoods.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

Toward the bottom they link back to the Raines report in the Mobile paper. And a few other trenchant quotes.

Destroy the ecosystem and wipe out industries, tourism and fisheries, for maybe 20 years… I hoep there is an outcry.. and some commentary that we ALL FUCKING WORK FOR BP – as janitorial staff, as the US government, the hirelings anyway… bow and scrape to BP and the related masters… .

It really is disgusting.

marisacat - 1 May 2010


[L]ouisiana State University professor Ed Overton, who heads a federal chemical hazard assessment team for oil spills, cautioned that the satellite imagery could be deceiving.

He said satellites can’t measure the thickness of the sheen and makes it difficult to judge how much oil is on the water.

Another issue is that the oil slicks are not one giant uniform spill the size of an island. Instead, they are “little globs of oil in an area of big water,” Overton said.

One expert also cautioned that if the spill continues growing unchecked, sea currents could suck the sheen down past the Florida Keys and then up the Eastern Seaboard.

The Florida Keys are home to the only living coral barrier reef in North America, and the third largest coral barrier reef in the world. About 84 percent of the nation’s coral reefs are located in Florida, where hundreds of marine species live, breed and spawn.

“If it gets into the Keys, that would be devastating,” said Duke University biologist Larry Crowder.

and a bit more…………………

Although the cause of the explosion was under investigation, many of the more than two dozen lawsuits filed in the wake of the explosion claim it was caused when workers for oil services contractor Halliburton Inc. improperly capped the well — a process known as cementing. Halliburton denied it.

The Coast Guard said Saturday it had shut down two offshore platforms and evacuated one of them near the spill as a safety precaution.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

up the Eastern seaboard?!?!


marisacat - 1 May 2010

and apparently the storm headed for the gulf, due to hit tomorrow, is a doozy, it si the one that has passed thru ARK.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

LAT full text, but they have a national map from the Weather Service:

The storm system that uprooted trees in Arkansas on Saturday could pose a threat to cleanup efforts in the Gulf Coast, as heavy winds and storms move through the Louisiana area Sunday. Raging winds have already made it difficult for responders to clean up oil, but conditions will worsen Sunday, said Ken Graham, the chief meteorologist with the National Weather Service in New Orleans.

The high winds have pushed waves in the Gulf of Mexico to 7 to 10 feet. Sunday, the seas are expected to rise an additional 2 feet. “That doesn’t help,” Graham said. “And it makes it tough on people getting boats out there.” Graham said high seas and potentially strong thunderstorms could make it unsafe for vessels to be at sea.

But there is a ray of hope, Graham said. The winds should be shifting late Monday or early Tuesday, which will push water from land and allow the seas to return to reasonable levels.“If we can just get through tomorrow,” Graham said. “Things will get better Monday. Because it sure hasn’t this weekend.”

— Nicole Santa Cruz

Photo: National Weather Service forecast map for late Saturday afternoon

hmm and a week or so ago they were just wringing their hands over the vote in NC and walking the Smokies and the Blue Ridge mountains, being nice to a hiker they ran into….and guzzling BBQ… jes like ordinary folks.

Snicker.. was he planning on winning the Gulf states? I hope not.

Mattes - 1 May 2010

Complete heartbreak.

Oil industry experts and officials are reluctant to describe what, exactly, a worst-case scenario would look like – but if the oil gets into the Gulf Stream and carries it to the beaches of Florida, it stands to be an environmental and economic disaster of epic proportions.

The Deepwater Horizon well is at the end of one branch of the Gulf Stream, the famed warm-water current that flows from the Gulf of Mexico to the North Atlantic. Several experts said that if the oil enters the stream, it would flow around the southern tip of Florida and up the eastern seaboard.

“It will be on the East Coast of Florida in almost no time,” Graber said. “I don’t think we can prevent that. It’s more of a question of when rather than if.”

….and it’s not even 2012 yet.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

It will be on the East Coast of Florida in almost no time,”

there you go, after it hits the Keys it will head up the Atlantic coast. And if the worst case scenario hits (and so far, day afer day, it has), this will be a volcanic gusher for months.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

btw, you know Obama, so far, si only saying we need to know what happened (not that the Federal government is bothering to tell us anything at all) as WE GO FORWARD WITH OFF SHORE DRILLING.

Mattes - 1 May 2010

It hasn’t started yet.

He has been known to change direction, unlike Bush.

And I read he is pushing hard for a Palestinian state before he leaves office. He knows he only gets one chance.

…..Though, this spill can turn out just as dangerous as the mess in the middle east. If Jason L. is right, this blow could be just the beginning of many more. And I am sure the increase in storms and their severity can’t be helping the situation.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

well you can keep believing mattes… I will be happy to revisit his administration in a couple of years.

I especially loved the Rear Admiral of the Coast Guard who called BP “our partner”. They pulled Landry (not the one who made that blooper) abruptly today (and cancelled her scheduled presser), but I don’t see Thad Allen as an improvement.

We are deep down the road we picked so many decades ago. And a fixer, a minor one at that, from the Chicago Dem machine is nto going to change things. Not in a good way, anyway.

Mattes - 1 May 2010

I’m sure he’s part of the machine…but I also think he’s an idealist.

…again, I’m a realistic idealist. Just how I’m built, gets me through the day.

Ya, we’re fucked. But I suspect life on planet earth is ruff on 98% of mankind.

Meanwhile….I LOVE Jango.com.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

He has done absolutely nothing to indicate idealism… I cannot think of anything cheaper than his speeches.

10. ms_xeno - 1 May 2010

…I heard tonight that the nation gets 40% of its fish from the Gulf waters off Louisiana…

Michelle can just tell America to eat more cheeseburgers. :/

marisacat - 1 May 2010

grow veggies… trim your kids for mil service.

That’s about it…

11. Mattes - 1 May 2010

I can’t bear to read the news on the oil spill. I love the area it will hit.

Meanwhile YAY Berkeley.

I wanted to go to Berkeley, I did not make it but my younger brother got his Doctorate from Berkeley.

What on earth will it take to persuade Israel to leave the occupied territories? Sometimes it seems as if nothing will work. For eight years now, the Arab Peace Initiative, which early Zionist leaders would have seen as a dream-come-true, has been collecting dust. Its terms include two states based on the pre-1967 borders, a mutually agreed-upon solution to the Palestinian refugee crisis, and normalized diplomatic relations between Israel and the entire Arab world. What once would have appeared to many to be Israel’s salvation now seems impossible given Israel’s entrenched colonial position in the West Bank and the settlers’ political power.

Perhaps American college students can help bring Israel to its senses. This past March 18, members of the student senate at the University of California, Berkeley, voted to recommend to the university’s governing board of regents that they divest their holdings in General Electric and United Technologies – two companies that have profited from Israel’s occupation of Palestinian land, its demolition of Palestinian homes, its aggressive campaign in Gaza last year, and the expansion of settlements. Although Berkeley’s student government is not the first in the United States to vote for a divestment recommendation of this nature, it is by far the most significant.

To be clear, the student bill does not call for a comprehensive form of divestment, and only targets companies involved in Israel’s occupation and military misadventures.


marisacat - 1 May 2010

I admit to “no hope” where Israel is concerned.

We had reasons to foster the fucked mess that S Africa is… to head off any strain of communism in a large African nation… and whatever deal was done with Mandela/ANC insured that. And certainly white majority rule had to go.

Israel is a very different mess.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

wihtout getting into hopeychangey slop… this is heartening… I stumbled on Sky Truth just at the point they influenced the reporting, but apparently also BP, to abandon the bullshit of 1000 barrels a day to at least 5K a day…

So cheering!


Tiny little operation, non profit… one and a hlf people. And the guy is a bit of an oil techno geek. Which means he has friends who talk to him.

I like it.

brinn - 1 May 2010

Hey! I just found SkyTruth today too! Awesome!

12. Mattes - 1 May 2010

Quote from the movie Contact:

“You’re an interesting species. An interesting mix. You’re capable of
such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost,
so cut off, so alone, only you’re not. See, in all our searching, the
only thing we’ve found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each

Are we worth saving….?

Paradise is the underworld sea of the Florida Keys. What will be left?

13. brinn - 1 May 2010

Ya’ll seen

this? Love me some Dr. Giroux!!

I’m sick of it too — and mattes? While talking about the oils spill with my kids (and a couple of their friends), I really don’t know what the answer to your question is …

diane - 1 May 2010

Thanks, great piece, and how true:

On the Obama education proposal: “Race-to-the-Top and jump off the building.”

14. marisacat - 1 May 2010

Well Obama had a highly [un]serious day.

I won’t be stopping saying “rightwing nut” anytime soon.

Or “fucking sell-out pretzel” (tho what he had left to sell, snicker, I have no idea).

Carried his soap box to … where was he? Uof Michigan?

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

I caught part of his speech before I went to see a movie, attacking the left and waxing poetic about the holy “middle”, of course, before a bunch of suckers who’re getting out of school likely deeply in debt entering an economy that is held hostage to con men, gamblers and extortionists masquerading as businessmen.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

it was a horrible speech.. his petty ‘rouse the rabble’ shit that the DNC and the operatives are pushing. He basically did shit level stump work. So appropriate for a pretzel at a commencement…

Apparently everything leads back to, or is caused by, “anti-government” rhetoric. And it MUST STOP.

Daddy Nanny says so.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

what movie did you see?????????

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

an excellent mystery from South Korea called Mother directed by Joon-ho Bong.

I’d recommend his “Memories of Murder” as well.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

oh let me check, think I may have rented memories of murder a few weeks ago… it was a South Korean policier about a serial rape murderer…. absolutely fabulous movie

marisacat - 1 May 2010

yeah it was MofM… what a wonderufl movie… some scenes were just amazing.

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

Mother has some equally wonderful scenes of village life in S. Korea, the landscapes. Excellent performances … watch for it when it finally comes out on DVD.

15. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010
16. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010
brinn - 1 May 2010

Read that earlier today…..ah, I can smell the “sheen” from here! 🙂

Mattes - 1 May 2010

And look who wrote the article. He was also the one that broke the story on Christian organizations’ influence on our millitary. I automatically suspect anyone that comes down “too” gleefully on Jason L.

diane - 1 May 2010

I hope the whistleblower didn’t email any information, and is able to stay safe.

17. marisacat - 1 May 2010

Gene Taylor is happy… but then he also has a 87% approval from teh old Christian Coalition nutcases…

Full text Miami Herald.

By Donna Melton

Sun Herald

GULFPORT, Miss. — Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., said oil from the massive spill in the Gulf of Mexico is “naturally breaking up as it’s heading to shore” and that he’s less concerned about it after witnessing it firsthand.

“This isn’t Katrina. It’s not Armageddon,” Taylor said. “A lot of people are scared, and I don’t think they should be.”

Taylor, along with Mississippi Department of Marine Resources Director Bill Walker and Rep. Jo Bonner, R-Ala., flew at 1,000 feet over the spill today on a Coast Guard twin-engine CASA 144.

He described the spill as a light, rainbow sheen with patches that looked like chocolate milk.

He did not see any traces along the Louisiana shore, near the Chandeleur Islands in Louisiana or the barrier islands in Mississippi, he said.

This was Taylor’s first time to see the spill for himself.

“At the moment, it’s not as bad I thought it would be,” he said.

Taylor said the good news was the spill seemed to be breaking up and very little may actually come ashore here.

“If it gets here, it will be a very light sheen,” Walker said.

Walker said the sheen could collect on beaches and in estuaries, but it will evaporate after a few days to a week.

His advice is to “leave it alone and let nature take its course.”

Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

he’s such a corrupt dumbass.

diane - 1 May 2010

He described the spill as a light, rainbow sheen with patches that looked like chocolate milk.


marisacat - 1 May 2010

he describes it as a child would. Recognisable images. Simple.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

Then again from soemone who actually knows things…


unlike Gene Taylor… beloved of the Dkos crews as I recall:

On Thursday, the size of the slick was about 1,150 square miles, but by Friday’s end it was in the range of 3,850 square miles, said Hans Graber, executive director of the university’s Center for Southeastern Tropical Advanced Remote Sensing.

That suggests the oil has started spilling from the well more quickly, Graber said.

“The spill and the spreading is getting so much faster and expanding much quicker than they estimated,” Graber told The Associated Press on Saturday.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

The Independent

[O]n a normal day, Mr Robichaux operates a crew boat for oil workers near Port Sulphur, an hour north of here towards New Orleans. But today he is anxious to see how far they have got in deploying the floating booms that are meant to protect the marshlands and fisheries from the encroaching oil. “Not a damn one, not one,” he complains over and over as our explorations find no evidence of anything much going on out here aside from military helicopters eyeing us from above. (We are in the area that, just hours later, will be closed down to fishing by the authorities.) While we have both seen workers loading the booms on to boats back in Venice, there is no evidence of them being laid.

Worse still, the oil coming from the well is of a particularly viscous nature and hard to clean up. “If I had to pick a bad oil, I’d put this right up there,” Ed Overton, an industry expert at Louisiana State University, cautioned. Like other experts, he said everything was combining to make this spill as bad as any seen before. “This has all the characteristics of a category five hurricane.”

As he arrives here, Mr Hayward of BP will plunge into what would be any energy company’s worst nightmare. The questions awaiting him include why it took the company so long to recognise what was happening one mile under the ocean’s surface. This time last week, the word from BP – and the US Coast Guard – was that the spill from the collapse was small. Even when that was exposed as inaccurate, the company insisted that any slick would be contained and would not reach land.

He will also be asked to explain more distant actions, including the company’s resistance to Washington’s attempts to introduce a new rule to make deep-sea drilling safer. A letter from BP to the US government dated 14 September 2009, made its position clear. “While BP is supportive of companies having a system in place to reduce risks, accidents, injuries and spills, we are not supportive of the extensive prescriptive regulations as proposed in this rule,” the letter said

and the government retreated, giving a helping hand to their “partner”… whcih was reported days ago.

diane - 1 May 2010

some ugly visuals of the spread progress at the bottom of this piece:

US oil spill ‘threatens way of life’, governor warns

and there’s this (not that anyone is apt to be punished other than the victims though, given the historic trend of corpseguv):

Halliburton in spotlight in gulf spill probe -Investigators look at the company’s role in cementing the deepwater drill hole in the Gulf of Mexico. Transocean and BP also face questioning

marisacat - 1 May 2010

There is an old time very conservative engineer (Lawrence Livermore lab, long time UC Berkeley professor) on KGO radio on the weekends I usually avoid him… but on some things he is right… so I figured I’d drop in on his show tonight…

He is saying that the most likely case is the long wait for the relief well to be drilled. Nothing that has been tried to cap the flow has worked (and he seems to think BP should have been able to do better) … and we most likely face months of an oil surge (my word)

diane - 1 May 2010

a nightmare, so sad and pathetic…..

18. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010
19. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

Second suicide in a week occurs at Badger Guns

A man committed suicide on the shooting range at Badger Guns on Saturday – the second such incident at the West Milwaukee store in less than a week.

In both instances, the victims shot themselves with firearms they rented from Badger Guns, police said. Two people killed themselves in a similar manner with rented guns at a range in Racine County in the past year.

On Saturday, police were called to Badger Guns at 4:30 p.m. and found a 50-year-old man dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, said West Milwaukee police Lt. Robert Bennett. One other person was on the range but was not injured. The shooting was captured on store video, he said.

Police identified the victim as Bruce P. Bethke of Oak Creek.

On Tuesday, Curtis M. Brown shot himself in the head with a gun on Badger Guns’ shooting range, according to a report from the Milwaukee County medical examiner’s office. Brown’s mother told investigators that he had attempted to commit suicide a week earlier by overdosing on pills, the report says.

Bennett said the last suicide he recalled at Badger Guns or its predecessor, Badger Outdoors, was 12 years ago. Bennett said the range at Badger Guns was closed to replace carpeting from Tuesday until it reopened late Friday. Now, the range will be closed again, he said.

20. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

South side event attracts thousands calling for immigration reform

She told marchers who chanted Si se puede (“yes, we can”) along the 1.6 miles down National Ave. and gathered at Mitchell Park that Milwaukee Ald. Jim Witkowiak will introduce a resolution Monday asking that the Common Council consider a boycott by not doing business with Arizona-based companies or attending meetings or conferences in that state in protest of the new law. That drew a swell of cheers from the crowd.

Another speaker was dairy farmer Karl Klessig, of Saxon Homestead Farm in Manitowoc County, who said he and other dairy farmers rely on immigrant labor and called immigration reform “critical” to the dairy industry.

There are no official estimates of the crowd, but marchers in lines of 40 or more across packed into the street from the sidewalk to sidewalk and the march stretched for eight or nine blocks.

The march began rather abruptly when kickoff speeches were interrupted by plumes of black smoke that began pouring out from the alley between the offices of Voces de la Frontera, 1027 S. 5th St., where the march started, and a building next door.

The smoke came from a trash container in the alley that appeared to have a pallet of wood in it. The fire sent orange flames high into the sky, and police cautioned marchers to stay back. A firetruck soon arrived to douse the fire that was dying down.

“I personally suspect it was related to the march and that someone tried to create a disruption to this march that was orderly and peaceful,” Neumann-Ortiz said.

Emilio De Torre, one of 25 ACLU legal observers to the march, said the trash container was up against the wall of the Voces offices and that he saw some of the flames licking at the windows. He said he then saw a police officer jump in and pull the burning trash bin out from the wall and into the middle of the alley. He said he learned it was Officer Robert Velez.

“I congratulated him because he was fantastic. Under the circumstances, it was a bad situation and he was pretty brave.”

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010

Car bomb disarmed in TSQ, NYC in spam.

22. diane - 1 May 2010

Not much out there on this, (especially compared with the interesting story of an officer surviving 30 shots from AK47s with a slight flesh wound, and the following MANHUNT):

Tens of thousands march nationwide to protest Ariz. immigration law, revive call for reforms

23. Mattes - 1 May 2010


Famed astrophysicist Stephen Hawking isn’t the only man concerned about the potential ramifications of an extraterrestrial presence on Earth.

Turns out, a growing number of people are becoming involved in “exopolitics,” the study of the political ramifications of alien visitors — whether they be friend or foe — and how humans should prepare for either scenario.

Take Michael Salla, an international politics scholar who in 2001 started dedicating his time to exopolitics. Since then, Salla, an expert in conflict resolution, has been lobbying for extra transparency from the government regarding extraterrestrials.

Courtesy of Exopolitics.org
Michael Salla says folks who study exopolitics range from people like Stephen Hawking, who believes aliens are most likely predatory, to the Vatican, which believes aliens may also be creations of God.
He says that it’s imperative for the planet to have a plan just in case an E.T. decides to make Earth his new home.

marisacat - 1 May 2010

to the Vatican, which believes aliens may also be creations of God.

so charitable of the Vaticanos. Now they decide the creations of their Gawdddddddd.

The UK has released a lot of their secret files on UFOs over the past couple of years… I don’t see the US of A doing that anytime soon

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2010

there was an interesting science fiction book back in the fifties about this whole deal Catholics have with aliens and whether they have souls. Apparently the church had guidance in place even then. A Case of Conscience.

diane - 1 May 2010

Read about his thoughts on that the other day, and wondered what thoughts he might have not commented about since he seemed to clearly expect they would be predatory.

mattes - 2 May 2010

This is a predatory universe. For better or worse.

diane - 2 May 2010

yet, you have acknowledged yourself (at the very least, implied) mattes (pulling you into my own “sappiness” here because you’ve layed yourself open, (which I don’t consider a trap, or a lie (at least in this instance)), the existence of kindness, in a very large way.

24. Mattes - 1 May 2010

Sure would put everything else on the back burner…

25. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 May 2010
marisacat - 2 May 2010

There si a long piece in the UK Times.. kind fo a mishmash of a lot of the better reports… but this is at the end. I don’t remember the Ixtoc at all……….

The British oil giant faces questions over how much it knew about previous problems with “blowout preventers”, the giant underwater valves designed to shut down oil flow in the event of accidents.

The valves on the rig failed to work after it exploded on April 20. BP technicians have been unable to activate them even though they appear to be undamaged by the blast.

BP has calculated that it might take up to three months to sink a new well that could cut off the flow of the Deepwater Horizon’s oil.

The worst oil spill affecting US waters was caused by a 1979 blowout aboard the Ixtoc, a Mexican rig that discharged at least 130m gallons, 600 miles south of the Texas coast. It took nine months to plug the leak.

marisacat - 2 May 2010

I read at the NYT that Salazar is “pressuring” BP to step up whatever it is they are not doing. This should go really wel!!

meanwhile down at the bottom of a Guardian piece… so……….. where is transparency for the public? Somewhere far up BP’s ass, is my guess.

BP has not said how much oil is beneath the Gulf seabed Deepwater Horizon was tapping, but a company official speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed reports that it was tens of millions of barrels.

Also in the article, is a stronger than earlier quote about the East Coast, the Atlantic side of FL…:

“It will be on the East Coast of Florida in almost no time,” Graber said. “I don’t think we can prevent that.

It’s more of a question of when rather than if.”

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2010

I don’t remember Ixtoc, either. Goes to show people don’t learn, though.

marisacat - 2 May 2010

Shorter Ken Salazar (I am watching FOX with Chris Williams)…

30,000 wells in the Gulf of Mexico… this will be evolving, but it is overwhelmingly safe. We rely on drilling in the Gulf.


Listening to these putzes (Thad Allen punted, shoved the rotting carcass over to Janet Nap and Ken) I would think listeners in the Gulf coast would be throwing rotten tomatoes and dead fish at the tvs

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2010

Nep & Sal were very evasive on This Week …

marisacat - 2 May 2010

They look catatonic. Thad Allen looks like he really does not want the job.

26. marisacat - 1 May 2010

oh too funny! From a piece at Ben Smith on the Gates letter to congress on DADT:

Gay rights advocates are furious after Defense Secretary Robert Gates, speaking for the Administration in a letter to the Hill, effectively killed the chances of a vote on “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” before the Midterms.

And if the Democrats lose the House, repeal — a firm Obama campaign promise — may be deferred indefinitely.

Take a smack across the face, delivered by W’s old buddy… but vote for us again…………………

so we can do it again! Which we will! Nothing to stop us!!

Why should pols respect The Voter?

( I went over to see if Aravosis had even a link on it……………… nothing about the Gates taking care of this for Obby)

27. catnip - 2 May 2010


During the 2008 election cycle, individuals and political action committees associated with BP — a Center for Responsive Politics’ “heavy hitter” — contributed half a million dollars to federal candidates. About 40 percent of these donations went to Democrats. The top recipient of BP-related donations during the 2008 cycle was President Barack Obama himself, who collected $71,000.

BP regularly lobbies on Capitol Hill, as well. In 2009, the company spent a massive $16 million to influence legislation. During the first quarter of 2010, it spent $3.53 million on federal lobbying efforts, ranking it second (behind ConocoPhillips) among all oil and gas industry interests.

Its registered lobbyists include a number of former federal government and high-ranking political campaign officials, including longtime political operative Tony Podesta, former congressional chief of staff Bob Brooks, former congressional legislative director David Pore and vice presidential aide Michael S. Berman, the Center’s research shows.

diane - 2 May 2010

Being real cynical, a person could come to the conclusion that they scattered that 11% Republican advantage as chump change amongst numerous meaningless Republican candidates, in an effort to somewhat obscure their choice for Top Dog; and, the fact that, at the end of the day, there’s no difference in the agendas of either party.

28. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2010
diane - 2 May 2010
29. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2010

Pittsburgh Marathon Bomb: Explosive Device Found On Course Of Pittsburgh Marathon

PITTSBURGH — Police say they have found an explosive device near the course of the Pittsburgh Marathon, forcing them to detour the final part of the race.

Police say the device was found in a small microwave oven on the sidewalk after the leaders had finished the course Sunday morning. Several blocks were cordoned off near the original finish line for the marathon and half-marathon.

diane - 2 May 2010

Interesting, terrerist threats in AZ, NYC, Phila & Pgh all in the span of less than two days, and in the midst of such monumental incidences of Governmental failure as the Oil/Govt. marriage travesty in the Gulf, and AZ’s fascist legislation.

For some odd reason, it brings to mind the fact that the CIA, years ago, laced the bread of a French City with an hallucinogen; and the fact that it was only recently revealed.

marisacat - 2 May 2010

I think anything is possible. The government created the bubble of conspiracy starting to flow over the explosion in the Gulf… by releasing (and in fact Obama used “swat” in his remarks on the 29th) that SWAT teams from Dept of Interior were headed to the Gulf.

Drudge of course picked it up and Lefties said, He lies!!

Turns out to (supposedly) inspect rigs (and they have closed 3 and evacuated one, but won’t tell us which ones or who owns them).

AND further, the actual acronym may b “SWOT”. Tho Wapo (Federal Eye) reported it as SWAT.

Classic muddy the waters.

Best of Luck to All Involved!!

marisacat - 2 May 2010

I have to say that the Mobile Press Register (ran the Raines story on the leaked memo and they keep SkyTruth.org in their list of links) and the Sun Herald (So MS – Biloxi – Gulfport paper) stand head and shoulders above the Times-Picayune (New Orleans paper).

I went to check out the T-P and was so disappointed in the coverage.

Just this one round up at he Sun Herald (a McClatchy subscriber paper obviously) and the number of articles linked in the sidebar…

marisacat - 2 May 2010

oh that is an IED if ever there was one!

A new, unheralded use of “small microwave oven”.

Glory be. Every day is a joy!

diane - 2 May 2010

yes, Oh Happy Day[s]!…

diane - 2 May 2010

(indeed, anything possible, no skullduggery too low)

30. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 May 2010
marisacat - 2 May 2010

I read a list of his biggest hits at Politico this am.. and that one REALLY stands out. He calls out celebrities, JUVENILE ones… he employs the use of his daughters (again) and he jokes about war and death. Michelle must have involuntarily waved her arms to salute him.

I wonder if people have figured out how proud he is to be pretzel in the fine traditions long since established.


31. marisacat - 2 May 2010



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