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A more… 9 May 2010

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, UK.

Twinlakes Park in Melton Mowbray  have revealed their newest arrivals, twin baby Pygmy Hedgehogs named David and Gordon. The prickly pair were born on the day the election was announced, April 6th,  and now four weeks later have started to emerge from their nest. The pair were named Gordon and David in honour of the party leaders

Twinlakes Park in Melton Mowbray have revealed their newest arrivals, twin baby Pygmy Hedgehogs named David and Gordon. The prickly pair were born on the day the election was announced, April 6th, and now four weeks later have started to emerge from their nest. The pair were named Gordon and David in honour of the party leaders
A more-interesting-than-usual box of chocolates… and I am certanly willing to give them a shot at being better politicians than anyone on view, anywhere. [Pretty much… 😉 ]




1. marisacat - 9 May 2010

From the Sun Herald (Biloxi – Gulfport – So MS)

[T]here was a renewed sense of urgency as dime- to golfball-sized balls of tar began washing up on Dauphin Island, much farther east than the thin rainbow sheens that had so far arrived sporadically in the Louisiana marshes.

“It almost looks like bark, but when you pick it up it definitely has a liquid consistency and it’s definitely oil,” said beachgoer Kimberly Creel, 41. “… I can only imagine what might be coming this way that might be larger.”

About a half-dozen tar balls had been collected by Saturday afternoon at Dauphin Island, Coast Guard chief warrant officer Adam Wine said in Mobile. Authorities planned to test the substance but results would take 48 hours. snip

Read more: LINK to Sun Herald

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

the coverage so far has utterly been ignoring what the spill has been doing under the surface … out of sight, out of pinhead TV news mind.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

Yes.. the references to what might be going on under there at Sky Truth is very frightening. They put it at 18 million whatevers a few days ago. Vs Exxon Valdez at 11 million whatevers.

And now it will likely gush unrestrained for months. Not even to think what the hurricanes will do.

I caught a guy from Public Citizen dot org during the night. It sounds like just billions of gallons barrels [who cares the measuring device] 20,000 feet under the crust and it will be coming up forever. Just about.

I don’t think we should assume the side relief well is going to be an easy solution either. I see BP is very quick to tell us today that they are 11,000 feet down in that drilling.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

I’ve heard and seen several pieces now that insist that it’s nowhere near the Valdez spill yet, most seemingly built around PR for the failed BP “dome”.

People have NO idea how weird liquids act at those pressures and temperatures, not to mention throwing in the different layers of subsurface currents. Who knows where that stew of toxic crap is being pushed and pulled, not to mention the addition of the other toxic chemicals being used to “disperse” (i.e. hide under the surface) the petrochemicals that do make it to the surface.


marisacat - 9 May 2010

there has been some discussion (that I of course did not save) that BP is claiming the dispersant they are using is proprietary. And they don’t have to release the materials used.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

I’ve heard that too …

“Never mind what horrible poison we’re dumping into a major food supply for the US … it’s OUR horrible poison!”

2. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

Link via Corrente, here is the last line, but the whole short post is worth reading:

You can have lots of rich people, or you can have widespread prosperity. You cannot have both.

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

Greenwald on Kagen:

Perhaps most revealing of all: a new article in The Daily Caller reports on growing criticisms of Kagan among “liberal legal scholars and experts” (with a focus on the work I’ve been doing), and it quotes the progressive legal scholar Erwin Chemerinsky as follows: “The reality is that Democrats, including liberals, will accept and push whomever Obama picks.” Yesterday on Twitter, Matt Yglesias supplied the rationale for this mentality: “Argument will be simple: Clinton & Obama like and trust [Kagan], and most liberals (myself included) like and trust Clinton & Obama.”

Just think about what that means. If the choice is Kagan, you’ll have huge numbers of Democrats and progressives running around saying, in essence: “I have no idea what Kagan thinks or believes about virtually anything, and it’s quite possible she’ll move the Court to the Right, but I support her nomination and think Obama made a great choice.” In other words, according to Chemerinksy and Yglesias, progressives will view Obama’s choice as a good one by virtue of the fact that it’s Obama choice. Isn’t that a pure embodiment of mindless tribalism and authoritarianism? Democrats love to mock the Right for their propensity to engage in party-line, close-minded adherence to their Leaders, but compare what conservatives did with Bush’s selection of Harriet Miers to what progressives are almost certain to do with Obama’s selection of someone who is, at best, an absolute blank slate.

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

Eric Holder: Miranda Rights Should Be Modified For Terrorism Suspects

Attorney General Eric Holder said for the first time today on ABC’s “This Week” that the Obama administration is open to modifying Miranda protections to deal with the “threats that we now face.”

“The [Miranda] system we have in place has proven to be effective,” Holder told host Jake Tapper. “I think we also want to look and determine whether we have the necessary flexibility — whether we have a system that deals with situations that agents now confront. … We’re now dealing with international terrorism. … I think we have to give serious consideration to at least modifying that public-safety exception [to the Miranda protections]. And that’s one of the things that I think we’re going to be reaching out to Congress, to come up with a proposal that is both constitutional, but that is also relevant to our times and the threats that we now face.”

marisacat - 9 May 2010

he is such a squishy little shit.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

I had to mute Rudy right after. Holder was bad enough, two-faced, spineless piece-of-shit that he is, but Rudy’s chest-thumping is just too fucking much.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

ABC TW just abou t to come on here… I struggled to stay awake for once… Want to hear just how bad they are. If I read one more fucking headline pointing the finger at Pakistan…

Christmas the Public Safety boys jerked off to Yemen (and Imam Awlaki who could be a serial murderer for all I know – or care) and now they are jerking off to Pakistan.

Just full scale invade. Get it over with.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

You’re right. this is really bad… and I am not even all the way to Guiliani yet.

I wonder exactly who jerks Holder’s chain. I don’t just mean “the ptb” I mean, exactly who owns him.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

Wait until you get to the incredibly empty “discussion” on the panel. Horrible.

Bring back some bomb throwers … get Maher back, if only because he might inspire an on-camera stroke for George Will.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

All I can say is Tapper picks better “funnies” than Stephie did.

Our system is utterly atrophied. Dead. Goner.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010
marisacat - 9 May 2010

oh they absolutely were. No question.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

“I think this is a major development,” said Alan Canfora, one of the wounded, who located a copy of the tape in a library archive in 2007 and has urged that it be professionally reviewed. “There’s been a grave injustice for 40 years because we lacked sufficient evidence to prove what we’ve known all along – that the Ohio National Guard was commanded to kill at Kent State on May 4, 1970.”

I don’t know if it was Canfora… but a few years ago I read a eyewitness account from someone there that day, who could see the NG acting in unison.

Interesting thsi pops up as Walter Hinckle dies, the former governor of Alaska and cabinet member under Nixon. His issue… cannot remember if he left or Nixon sent him away, his issue, at the time of Kent State, was that the nation was ignoring its young people.

No one of either party would say that today. Unless it was a scam for votes.

6. marisacat - 9 May 2010

Geesh. What next?

Miami herald:

With dome setback, solution may be golf balls and shredded tires

BILOXI, Miss. — Golf balls and shredded tires may be the latest solution to stop a leak spewing crude into the Gulf, a top Coast Guard official said Sunday morning.

“The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot,” U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen said on Face the Nation,.

“They’re actually going to take a bunch of debris, shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that and under very high pressure shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak,” Allen said. The concept has been used before but is “exotic” and Allen cautioned there were difficulties with that plan as well.

It was not clear when such a plan — developed by BP — might be put in place.

But the effort to plug one of the leaks with debris came as the oil giant was reassessing its options, a day after an attempt to lower a 78-ton dome over the largest leak hit a major setback.

Don’t miss this self serving tidbit from Suttles…

Suttles said six BP employees were among the 126 people on the rig when it exploded. They had been there to discuss safety after the rig had gone more than 2,500 days without a significant accident.

Read more: LInk to Miami Herald

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010



brinn - 9 May 2010

Holy shit. Golf balls and shredded tires. For fucks’ sake, can the get any more absurd?! I probably should know better by know than to even ask that question….

I had some hopes when I first head about the “concrete dome” idea…envisioning, you know , something DOME-like and made of concrete!! When I saw the thing they unveiled last week — the 4-story port-a-potty, i literally spat out “What the fuck is THAT!? That will never work!” And hell, I’m not even an engineer of any type…my first thought was BP will roll out absolutely ANYthing to make it look like they’re doing something — even THEY are not so stupid as to think that they would’ve been able to lower than thing 5,000 feet undersea to contain anything….

At this point, all I can hope for is that they don’t injure, maim and/or kill anything further with their stupid-assed PR stunts.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

four storey porta potty si a good one!

marisacat - 9 May 2010

You can get that hope mojo going again, report out they will try ot lower the porta potty again TOMORROW (Tomorrow! Tomorrow! it’s always a day away!)

brinn - 9 May 2010

No, no more hope at all. First off, they should’ve gone with something wider than it is high — ocean currents at 5,000 ft down are nothing to be trifled with, not to mention the pressure.

Second, from what I read here (thanks Sky Truth!), the warnings about ice might forming on the submerged port-a-potty, were summarily ignored….whaaaa? It’s COLD down there? And someone seem to have forgotten that ice floats or something….so now the damned thing is DOWN there, getting more iced up by the moment, 600 feet away from the gusher…I refuse to call it a spill anymore.

The containment box, a method never before attempted at such depths, had been considered the best hope of stanching the flow in the near term.

“I wouldn’t say it’s failed yet,” BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles said. “What I would say is what we attempted to do last night didn’t work.”

The icy buildup on the containment box made it too buoyant and clogged it up, Suttles said. Workers who had carefully lowered the massive box over the leak nearly a mile below the surface had to lift it and move it some 600 feet to the side.

Company and Coast Guard officials had cautioned that icelike hydrates, a slushy mixture of gas and water, would be one of the biggest challenges to the containment box plan, and their warnings proved accurate. The crystals clogged the opening in the top of the peaked box like sand in a funnel, only upside-down.

Options under consideration included raising the box high enough that warmer water would prevent the slush from forming, or using heated water or methanol to prevent the crystals from forming.

Even as officials pondered their next move, Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said she must to continue to manage expectations of what the containment box can do.

Yeeessssss, we must all “manage expectations”. Maybe instead of actual golf balls and shredded tires they can just use the golf ball sized TAR BALLS coming soon to shorelines all along the Gulf!!

marisacat - 9 May 2010

oh but the next one, due to be lowered on Tuesday, is nicknamed “Top Hat”, it’s smaller… so I guess they think it is not ‘same issue different day’.

Keep Hope Alive! Keep Hope Alive! [Tape and put it in endless play]. Organise Prayer Circles! And don’t pray for the gulf, pray that Obby is not hurt by all the fuck-up-ness.

About where we are at. That world of, Oh you have Breast Cancer! Here have a pink teddy bear, you’ll feel better right away! Pink Ring? Better now? No? Here, pink rubber bracelet!! better Now!? No? NEXT!!!!! Keep Mooooo-ving Ladies!

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010
Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

the reporter in the video insists that the police “had no choice” …

marisacat - 9 May 2010

Thankfully I think the SF PD will not be allowed to have them. Pisses the Chief off… too.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

Poor Tiger. Life is hard for a man who now keeps missing the hole (as someone put it to me, a better phrasing than “misses the cut AGAIN”) geesh overwhelming snicker snax.

The ONLY one even mentioned to win whatever tourney is up this weekend or week, is Mickelson. The promos I have seen briefly, nano second length, show Tiger’s face then cut to Mickelson and voice over about him.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

poor golf industry, their meal ticket screwed them out of their fortunes … so to speak.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

yup… he really was a promoted puff.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

speaking of……………

Woods withdraws from Players with injury

The Associated Press – Mark Long – ‎20 minutes ago‎

PONTE VEDRA BEACH, Fla. – Tiger Woods has withdrawn from The Players Championship with an injury that he fears might be a bulging disk in his upper back.

ts - 9 May 2010

I was reading a story about a seven-year-old kid heckling Tiger. Fortunately the police didn’t taze him.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

I am for the trailing messages from fly planes, like happened at Augusta to avoid the heavy security on the ground.

I laughed out loud at the one that said, “Maybe you meant “bootyism”, Tiger”.

8. diane - 9 May 2010

Happy Mom’s Day to all the Mom’s out there!

(and love that pic Marisa!)

diane - 9 May 2010

(And sorry about my last unintelligible comments on the last thread yesterday. Just when I thought I was getting good at staying away from the puter if I was going to have more than two ‘grenades’…)

marisacat - 9 May 2010

He’s just a chocolate bon bon with toes….

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

Oil: Deepwater Horizon rig owner actually made money on the blowout

THE owner of the oil rig that exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, killing 11 people and causing a giant slick, has made a $270m (£182m) profit from insurance payouts for the disaster.

The revelation by Transocean, the world’s biggest offshore driller, will add to the political storm over the disaster. The company was hired by BP to drill the well.

The “accounting gain” arose because the $560m insurance policy Transocean took out on its Deepwater Horizon rig was greater than the value of the rig itself. Transocean has already received a cash payment of $401m with the rest due in the next few weeks.

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010
marisacat - 9 May 2010

prepared to be bathed in oil.

I am still waiting for an Obama joke on the ”new Louisiana vinaigrette”. “Cajun Deep Oil Fry”, etc. “Add a little Hot Sauce, no one will notice”… and so on. Extra points for inclding the Jonas Bros or the Ob Kittles.

Or some other stupidity.

11. marisacat - 9 May 2010

Change! change! Change!! Maybe it is under the rug in the Oval along with Bush’s WMD!!!

Change! Where is the fucking change???????????????? (nowhere to be seen!!)

The Guardian

The Obama administration waived environmental reviews for 26 new offshore drilling projects even as the BP oil disaster spewed hundreds of thousands of gallons of crude oil into the Gulf of Mexico, environmental activists said today.

The charge came as hopes for a quick fix to the Deepwater Horizon spill were dashed when a build-up of crystallised gas blocked pipes in a huge metal containment box that had been built to cap the well. Engineers are now considering a “junk shot”, shooting a mix of debris – including shredded tires and golf balls – into the well at high pressure to clog it, said Thad Allen, a US coast guard commander.

With the spill still unchecked and spreading to Alabama’s beaches, there was renewed focus on oversight procedures that allowed BP and Transocean to drill without backup plans in place.

The Centre for Biological Diversity said that even after the disaster, the Obama administration did not tighten its oversight of offshore drilling.

An investigation by the respected environmental group revealed that since 20 April, when an explosion the Deepwater Horizon rig killed 11 workers, 27 new offshore drilling projects have been approved by the Mineral Management Service (MMS) the regulatory agency responsible for overseeing extraction of oil, gas and other minerals. snip

Sucker sheeple.

All but one project was granted similar exemptions from environmental review as BP. Two were submitted by the UK firm, and made the same claims about oil-rig safety and the implausibility of a spill damaging the environment, the centre said.

“This oil spill has had absolutely no effect on MMS behaviour at all,” said Kieran Suckling, the director of the centre. “It’s still business as usual which means rubber stamping oil drilling permits with no environmental review.”

The charges were the latest in a string of revelations about lax oversight of offshore drilling that, while dating back to the George Bush era, have also damaged the Obama White House.

Minor fixer produces no fix.

12. marisacat - 9 May 2010

I am accidnetally catching the Jon Meahcam slob fest… Need to Know, that replaced Moyers and Brancaccio.

Such dreck… with a light skinned POC suck up woman, beside Meacham…. They interviewed Bloomie on guns (trite) and Bill C on how wonderfuller he is.

And a really dumb segment on The Pill.

It is so bad it is parody.

Above all it is very childish.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

wasn’t it horrible? It made 48 Hours look hard hitting.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

so bad. and her overly cute communications major with a marketing minor were not to die for.

I don’t know who was worse, Bloomie or Billy J

I got into it during their super lousy coverage of the spill. That little spill down south somewhere.

13. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

it just occurred to me that BP, now that the condom failed, are now going to try to install a Rube Goldberg diaphram.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

Just don’t blame Obby, it’s Big Bad Oil. They dun captured him, held for ransom.


14. marisacat - 9 May 2010

Sy Hersh surfaces… Poor Obby he is “dominated by the mil” but if he can just work his way free…. we will be OK.

Maybe we could ransom him from the Big Bad Military? Cuz you know he wants to do the right thing.

Poor Sy. Bye Sy. (give him a pink teddy)

15. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010
16. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

Strategic Default: Walking Away from Mortgages

Neither do Jean Ellen Schulik and Danny Kuehn. They bought their Phoenix bungalow three years ago for nearly $400,000. The bank now values it at $85,000.

Even though they can afford the mortgage payments, they felt they were trying to bail out an ocean with a bucket.

“No logical business person would do anything other than walk away. And so, there was a lot of soul searching. And I did a lot of crying, ’cause I’m in love with this house. And every day I would redo the math and think, ‘Maybe we missed something,'” Schulik said. “This just can’t be right.”

But it was: the value of their house was dropping anywhere from five to eight thousand dollars a month, so Schulik and Kuehn just felt it was time to walk away.

“I don’t think we’re villains. We fulfilled the parts of our contract that we have with the bank. We’ve let them know what we’re doing. It’s all legal. It’s not anything I ever expected I would be doing. And it sure doesn’t feel good. But it seems like it’s the right thing to do,” Schulik said.

“What do your neighbors make of it?” Safer asked. “Another empty house breaks down the value of everyone’s house.”

“And we’ve seen that here. I think they will be upset, and I understand that,” Kuehn replied.

“But you’re hardly alone in Phoenix right now, correct?” Safer asked.

“Yes, it’s interesting the number of my coworkers who have approached me to say, ‘How are you doing this? Because I need to do it,'” Kuehn explained.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

It’s the only thing to do. Any turn around is going to be a couple of decades in some areas.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 May 2010

I like the way the reporter kept asking them if they felt bad. We’ve reduced EVERYTHING in this culture to business transactions, and we’ve done so to service corporate profits … tough shit for them if people start to understand that the way to survive is to treat their families as small businesses, and to act in a cold-hearted way that any company is expected to act.

They created this system … people walking away is the holy market “correcting” itself. Dumb fucks shouldn’t have sold shit mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

And he or she mentioned the huge walkaways that have been happening, including the Tisch one in NYC, the biggest abandonment ever.

marisacat - 9 May 2010

It’s a trend the banks fear could catch on with average homeowners. Already the CEO of Citibank’s mortgage unit estimates that one in five borrowers who default on their mortgages are able to pay. If that number rises, it could jeopardize any economic recovery.

Which is the exact argument for imposing RENEGOTIATION, permanent ones, on the banks. AND, Allowing people to filr for simple bankruptcy and the bankruptcy court judges having the ability to reset the loans.

But this administration, as the Bushies would hav done, wanted none of it.

17. marisacat - 9 May 2010


O f course I went there to see if he had anything to say about Kagan yet.. (he didn’t….)

18. marisacat - 9 May 2010

That mortal coil…

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Lena Horne, Pioneering Singer and Actress, Has Died at 92 [1:30 a.m. ET]

19. marisacat - 10 May 2010



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