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Thursday… 24 June 2010

Posted by marisacat in Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems.

Reputed to be 6,000 years old, the world’s largest baobab tree stands proudly at Sunland Nurseries in Limpopo, South Africa [Jonathan Brady/EPA]

Whew.  Sometimes it seems there is too much news, too much tumult… but NOW it really is too much at once.  And, nothing looks like it ends soon.




1. marisacat - 24 June 2010


Reading around the news reports, the after event bullshit, we are, it eems, supposed to stand on the dock, wving white lace hankies, to bid adieu to McC… and shower tickertape and whatever else upon our new non-conquering, no wins on the books, killer-hero.

Are we fucked or what?

2. marisacat - 24 June 2010

Snicker… you know the future is bright when the latest marquee at CNN is Eliot Spitzer and (don’t laugh TOO hard!) Kathleen Parker.

AND, as more than one observer posited, McC soon to have a career like the one Oliver North has established for himself.

Sans jail, unlike ON, however.

3. marisacat - 24 June 2010

I wonder if The Onion can do anything to top Al Gore’s police report.

Address “unknown”… but “Former Vice President of the United States”.

catnip - 24 June 2010

I hadn’t heard about that. lol

The Smoking Gun: Al Gore A “Crazed Sex Poodle?” – Masseuse’s claims read like R-rated vice presidential fan fiction

Whole lot of that going around about Obamalama too – and Rahm (the guy too many kossacks want to sleep with because he’d be such an “animal” in bed.)

lucid - 24 June 2010

Forced to drink Grand Marnier? Really? People drink Grand Marnier by itself? What are they, 15 year olds raiding their parents liquor cabinets?

catnip - 24 June 2010

Worse – Al made her listen to his singing.

4. catnip - 24 June 2010

“Justice” for the rich: U.S. high court finds fault with Conrad Black fraud conviction

Lord Black gets his case reviewed in record time by the US supremes. The small people? Not so much.

catnip - 24 June 2010
5. lucid - 24 June 2010

It finally ends… Isner 70-68 in the fifth set. 11 hours and 5 minutes over 3 days – every tennis record broken by this one. Too bad Mahut lost, I really started rooting for the guy.

6. catnip - 24 June 2010
7. catnip - 24 June 2010

My cat just delivered lunch for me: a 4″ mouse.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

You have energetic cats…

catnip - 24 June 2010

And so thoughtful.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

THEY CARE! For the small mice.

8. catnip - 24 June 2010

Camper or terrorist?

And this must be an important detail:

A scruffy white dog was also in the car at the time of the arrest.

A WMD, no doubt.

9. catnip - 24 June 2010

Obama is no wuss! Obama is the man!!! (Updated)

by blackwaterdog

10. catnip - 24 June 2010

Belgian Catholic offices raided in sex abuse probe

Even G*d can’t protect you now.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

Well.. but….

I figure no matter what there is a lot that is not coming out. More to come about Maciel, I would bet. And he is just one. Already horrific tales, here nad there in isolated villages of S America.. etc.

I STILL say there have to be murdered children, if anyone were to really look. Esp at far away orphanages, indigenous schools and parishes… and so on.

catnip - 24 June 2010

They’re still looking for bodies of children from residential schools who’ve been missing for decades here.

CSTAR - 24 June 2010

Referring to some previous thread about some Wakos fantasizing about Rahm Emmanuel, these guys must be animals in bed too.

Maybe they’re just plain animals, No, that gives animals a bad name.

How about a oil spills?

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2010

Bravo, Belgium!

I’m hoping that they’re just warming up for the big one — I’d like to see a UN raid of the Vatican, with a whole line of shame-faced old men in dresses led out to the paddy wagons like a transvestite Mafia mob.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

oh good line!! I say call up an ………… INQUISITION!!

Subject the pope to torture. And all the rest too!

11. catnip - 24 June 2010
12. marisacat - 24 June 2010

hmm threads at The Oil Drum are just packed with information. This is the one I am reading now… and admittedly in a roughly 370+ comment thread, I skim for words… I am still in the top quarter of the thread… and they are damning on the sloppy case it seems DoI Salazar made to Feldman. hmm. Good luck exerting pressure. We shall see.

They also say, for the first time that I have caught and maybe the suicide of Captain Kause intensified this, but they are saying people will begin to leave the Gulf. En masse. And the sooner BP and the government are honest with the people (not that they will be) the sooner people will migrate away. Too few jobs, destroyed Gulf, ruined industries, dead habitat for wildlife, livelihoods and so on.

Report from the Miami Herald on worsening conditions on the beaches, Pensacola Beach hit hard… what several weeks ago was oil slick is now the thick muck oil… Crist took a flyover with a veteran of the Alaska battles and he had the current edition of Cousteau with him, a grand son I guess.

[F]rom the Blackhawk helicopter carrying the governor, orange ribbons of oil could be seen four miles from Pensacola Beach and mats of it dotted the water, like a field of misfired fluorescent Frisbees on a vast field of green.

Crist and company said they were heartened by the appearance of several skimming boats, some carrying booms to collect the water, and by the dozens of workers in green and orange T-shirts working to clean up tar balls from Perdido Bay beaches.

But their mood changed when the helicopter landed on Pensacola Beach and local residents rushed to them to say it had taken three to four hours to clean the thicker mats from a 60-foot stretch of beach.

“I didn’t think it was going to be quite like this on the beach,” Cousteau said. “We saw tar balls on the beach a few weeks ago. I expected that here. But it looks like it’s thicker, more viscous. I saw this in Grand Isle [Louisiana] three weeks ago.” …

Scamming people in order to keep a population in place, when the authorities KNOW other/different/better information, is like telling people to hold onto stock that is clearly in freefall. The default position of the cable and CNBC financial “advisors”.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

From the same thread at TOD:

beagle on June 24, 2010 – 11:10am Permalink | Subthread | Comments top

Ed Markey has sent a lengthy letter to Tony Hayward which should really start the rumour mill rumbling.

Chairman Asks About Well Integrity, Design of Relief Wells, Timeframe, Sea Floor Leaks

The letter focuses on several main lines of inquiry,

–Relief well design and timeframe, notably on the designs of the casing and cementing of the relief wells and the blowout preventers for the relief wells. In a June 15th hearing in the Energy and Environment Subcommittee, BP’s Lamar McKay said that “the design of the relief well is very, very similar to the original well.” In the letter, Rep. Markey writes: “In light of the well-documented and extensive problems associated with the original well’s design, this statement is worrisome to contemplate.”

–Condition of the wellbore. Admiral Allen expressed concern last week that there may be damage to the wellbore, and the integrity of the well has been a consistent concern since the failure of the so-called “top kill” procedure.

–Reports of sea floor leaks. Rep. Markey also asks about whether there are additional leaks around the main well site, as that may impact any final efforts to seal the well and prevent further leakage of oil.

–Other potential oil and gas reservoirs. Rep. Markey asks BP to provide all geological information about the well to determine if there are other reservoirs of oil and gas aside from the main one 18,000 feet below the surface, as their presence, coupled with damage to the wellbore, could also complicate the relief well efforts.

Press Release from Global Warming/House dot gov

13. marisacat - 24 June 2010

Again from The Oil Drum thread:

arraya on June 24, 2010 – 12:42pm

A interesting speaker at grassroots movement in LA. This lady, from a commercial fishing family, was aloud to sit in on BP meetings regarding the clean-up


-The Federal Government, Coast Guard and NOAA are taking orders from BP

BP clean up crew management talking more of cost cutting and information control rather than clean up

-Beaches and marshes are not protected

-People getting sick

-When ever an “official” goes to a beach, BP sends hundreds to the spot and then when the camera leaves so does about 80% of the crew — It’s called “ponies and balloons”

Took boat out in the gulf and drove through spots with 100 of thousands of dead fish

14. Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2010
marisacat - 24 June 2010

oh that was awful. I have sensed in some, just some, reporting that some media is relaxing. Relief wells, they tell themselves, are just a few weeks away (sure to be an instant success, like everything so far, right?)… and then they can occasionally just toss out a “cleaning up the Gulf” report.

I don’t think it will be working out that way however.

Business Insider has discovered the “burning the turtles alive” stories… and the thread, just 3 comments so far, is AWFUL.

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2010

It’s hard to sell SUVs and boner pills if you’re only covering downers all the time … after a while I’m sure there is tons of pressure to lighten up.

On the other hand, I threw on G4TV’s “Attack of the Show” after work today, which is usually a nerd pop show with movie reviews and cute girls and tech reviews, and they did a pretty grim story on the gulf and trying to save the wildlife, on how BP won’t let their workers talk to the press, and even brought up reported financial ties between BP and the maker of Corexit, the dispersant they were using.

I was surprised to see the segment.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

I think aspects of Mainstream media as well as “doesn’t know much about America’ Obby and others have seriously, from minute one, underestimated how Americans will react to this.

Many many Mid-west and Eastern Seabord residents ahve vacationed on the Gulf, have family members who retired to the Gulf. The Mississippi bisects the nation… Westerners travel to the Gulf for all sorts of reasons… easy enough to head south, hang a big left, as I used to say, and drive to the Gulf…

This is not some unknown hill top that blew in Upper Western Montana.

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2010

what remains to be seen is if that general disgust matters. I hope it will, but I’ve watched people get used to so many horrors that I can’t get my hopes up.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

well I have a tentative faith in that this is bigger, much bigger than anything recently. In my memory anyway. Plus it is right here, inside the US… and the scale is simply huge. Everything from simple beach access to land value to shipping to ………………

it’s endless.

Obby has little cover in that he is not liked. Other than the 91% support he gets from blacks (think htat was in the latest WSJ CBS poll)… and whatever water soaked, wet noodle white libs are still standing, he is not truly
L I K E D. A very big problem for a pretzel with a much bigger problem.


Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2010

Here’s that G4 report … BP Oil Spill Effect on Wildlife

the market for this show is the kind of harsh males that comment at BI … it’s that weird harsh “libertarian’ short that loves tech and makes fun of “hippies” …

Not what I would expect to see on that channel.

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2010

that thread is pretty depressing.

marisacat - 24 June 2010

What made me angry with the thread is that NO ONE is asking for an end to the burns… but there is a legitimate issue of allowing access for wildlife rescuers to do what they can.

Even as what to save and how to save and other issues DO exist.

this is an unending nightmare.

Madman in the Marketplace - 24 June 2010

there is all-too-often this weird default to a sort of heartless utilitarianism. It’s a serious illness.

15. BooHooHooMan - 25 June 2010

LOL. Daahmnn.

Talk about totally no frills now.

White House responds to Republican filibuster of jobless benefits and state aid
by Joan McCarter
Thu Jun 24, 2010 at 06:16:04 PM PDT

Gibbs’ office e-mails this statement:

Statement by the Press Secretary on Republican Obstruction of Jobless Benefits and State Aid…

Cut and paste emailed talking point, cite Digby saying we got another FDR I tells ya!. Click – And that’s it!
No peanuts, no beverage cart, no fuckin fuselage even.
Just a seat, a flotation device and bird crapping on your shoulder before pecking out Ta~Ta! Have a Nice Flight!
😯 ~ I mean WTF? ~ 😆

And THAT’S McJoan’s ….J-O-B.
Welp, In this case at least, I’d say,
Score another one for the heartless utilitarians! And outfit McJoan with a Bar Code Scanner and a bright nylon vest. I know, a damn shame.
But the Retail Public deserves her services even tho she’s , ya know,
a political professional and all now.

marisacat - 25 June 2010

The real question is why in the fucking hell are the Democrats so weak. All perky in their handmaiden uniform.


And you know when La Digs weighs in we are getting close, closer……. we are right on top of The Truth.


AND when we all wake up, we are in the middle of an oil burn box.

Poor Mcjoan. We need to remember to whom she went down on her Lewis and Clark knees with, for, whatever the dangling ah… er… participle is………….

16. BooHooHooMan - 25 June 2010

The real question is why in the fucking hell are the Democrats so weak. …

AND the answer, too. LOL.
Why are they so weak? Well they’re weak, see! Don’t have the votes!
Need More and Better Dems, see…and…the Majority isn’t a real majority and if you knew Senate rules and….

The Democrats and weakness..they are The Singularity.
They sure as hell are in my adult lifetime anyways.
It is laughable, McJoan’s invocation of FDR , another talking point today, (yesterday Ob was Truman, see…) while the unemployed are getting the razors edge treatment spun as Happy Days Are Here Again.

Here is this puppet Obama just fisted with Corporate, Pentagon, and Israeli interests right in his ass. Oh it IS something to see him flop around as they finger fight each other. While he with “his” “Historic” Democratic Congress – don’t laugh or cry too hard – scramble to secure a share of the bloody, oily, and life sustenance-as-hostage corporate riches while the collapsing “gettin’s good”.

The “weakness” works because as humans we all have weaknesses, but elected officials, Party officials and political retainers are not weak at all in translatable terms to ordinary people. To the contrary, the political parasites are Most secure in their livelihoods and future prospects , primo retirements and Healthcare, right down to the choice of multiple catered affairs on a daily basis and paid travel. They indeed have few worries of the “little guy”, other than being seen for the rip off artists and thug covers they are.

This “weak” narrative is better for them politically, because once people see them for the craven bloodsuckers they truly are..forget the Party: this whole ruse of American “representative” ‘Democracy” is through.

Probably all moot the way the God of Unprecedented Oil Drilling JuJu looks.

** And for simplicity’s sake in adopting the American Exceptionalist view, sea floor rupture is what IS. GOING. ON. NOW. What are we talking about in those “ordinary” American terms? A Gulf Coast Tsunami? A methane cloud spurring acid rain driven inland wiping out Southern crops? A dead zone encompassing the entire State of Florida?, How far North? Democratic gigolo Joe Trippi’s house on the Eastern Shore? My finally realized as beloved New Jersey?

And it really isn’t irony that it could happen on “Obma’s” or the “Democrat’s watch” After all the “fight fight fight” slobber for all those years?

marisacat - 25 June 2010

well right.. “weak” is a story.

Just like the Judge stopped the [fake] moratorium.

And so on

ts - 25 June 2010

But they triiiiiied, they triiiiiied!

marisacat - 25 June 2010

they triiied and triiied ’til they just couldn’t anymore.

17. marisacat - 25 June 2010

ugh.. I caught Chrlie Rose tonight… 30 mins of long winded lying from Kerry. THEN 30 mins of really tedious boring lying to shore up how great McChrystal is from [ret.] Gen Keane, one of the main architects of Iraq “surge”.

We are so fucking sunk.

BTW, McC drinks…………. Bud light LIME flavor.

Caught a segment tonight, on a beach in Florida. Just all cleaned up… but if you dig a bit, down 6 inches is a solid sheet of oil, stretching for however long. Which will be torn up, should a hurricane hit.

Who knows… someone posted a link to this at Kunstler’s Clusterfuck Nation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphalt_volcano

catnip - 25 June 2010

Just heard there’s a tropical storm brewing in the gulf…

marisacat - 25 June 2010

yeah I have been reading about it, as a tropical depression at least, for a couple of days… if it picks up power they will name it Alex.

18. catnip - 25 June 2010

Vatican ‘astonished’ at Belgian police raid

astonished! outraged even!

Investigators also opened the graves of archbishops in the St. Rombouts Cathedral in Mechlin, north of Brussels, looking for possibly incriminating documents, said Jean-Marc Meilleur, spokesman for the Brussels public prosecutor.

You reap what you sow and nobody would put it past those cretins to hide documents in a grave.

marisacat - 25 June 2010

The police did th right thing…

19. catnip - 25 June 2010

From the Department of Awwww(e)….

Amputee cat gets bionic legs

20. catnip - 25 June 2010

Family: Oil disaster devastated captain who committed suicide

Kruse, 55, a charter boat captain who had been hired by BP to help clean Gulf waterways and render them safe, died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound Wednesday on board one of his own vessels.

I see Biden’s heading down there for a photo op.

marisacat - 25 June 2010

I had been waiting for the first of the sucides, but I thought it would take a few more months. Without knowing his personal history, but seeing his wife and 2 small sons, all I can think is what he saw, hiring out to BP, being out in the Gulf in the so called clean up, skimming and whatever else… he may have thought it will be getting worse. Far worse…

Devastating death…

You may have caught the woman, looks like a local, was a volunteer (think that was her status) for beach cleaning in FL… and has now declined. Says it is all for show. She has talked to both CBS and ABC so I assume she is on cable as well…

The dophin and sharks, bth, have headed into the inland waterways, trying to escape… one marine biologist says there must be scores dead, on the sea floor… and that will all get raked up and brought inward, if there is a big storm, depression, hurricane. The piled up oil, under the top sand on the beaches will get churned up and blwon inland.

This can all get much worse…

We had 36 hours, strangely, of southrn coastal weather here in SF, warm balmy rain, soft warm rain… so I thought about those wonderful days down on the Gulf coast…certain types of mornings in the warm rain…

catnip - 25 June 2010

The story said he made $5,000-$6,000 a day. Imagine getting a cheque for that amount for one month and trying to figure out how you’re going to survive.

You may have caught the woman, looks like a local, was a volunteer (think that was her status) for beach cleaning in FL… and has now declined.

I haven’t see her yet.

This is going to be one long, endless nightmare.

marisacat - 25 June 2010

Yes I think a lot of people don’t realise how much money there can be, repeat CAN be, in commercial fishing. Of course costs are high and it can be unpredictable… but the money is there.

PLUS I have read that over the past three years, fishing was steadily improving. I think some people on the Gulf really did feel they were at a significant turning point from Katrina, across the board.

21. ts - 25 June 2010

So the Obama administration is the apotheosis of the “appearance of change”. The NY Times has the banner headline of “SWEEPING FINANCIAL REFORM !!!”, and literally Joe Biden below the header is the article:

Banks should be able to avoid most reforms, analysts say

I myself just can’t wait for more of this unchanging change.

marisacat - 25 June 2010

Gibbs says we lead the whirld in reform. But of course consider the source, gah. There is an article at FORBES, ffs, that says Treasury, Obby, Dobbs and Franks have all sold out to Wall St.

Somebody or other at Policito was comparing Barry to LBJ for domestic reform. It is all very old dead fish.

catnip - 25 June 2010

Is he serious? Did Canada have to bail out its banks? No.

More American exceptionalism.

marisacat - 25 June 2010

Gibbs is a Dem operative, pretty much gutter level…. Wrong person to have in that job. But suitable, I would say for this admin.

catnip - 25 June 2010

dkos wreck list diary = yay they passed a bill.

Forget about what’s actually in it. Just cheer because they passed something. (Of course, I needled some of them by asking if they blindly cheered every time the Repubs passed a bill to – since passing a bill is now something to have a parade about.)

22. marisacat - 25 June 2010




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