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Could it possibly look angrier? 29 June 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, The Battle for New Orleans.

Oil clouds the surface of Barataria Bay near Port Sulpher, Louisiana [Sean Gardner/Getty Images]

Or more like a bloom of cancer?

I don’t know that anyone has the heart for it… but I left the gallery of 20 photos at the Guardian at a section of several images of Barataria Bay and Bay Jimmy in Louisiana… and they are so very sad. 

The battle, what there was of it, was lost. Has been lost. Is being lost… 

I had almost not opened the gallery, feeling it might be national propaganda for BP, even at a quasi left media resource…

At the same time I am looking at the pictures of bits of soaked boom and masses of oil, deep thick sludge and tiny hoses, etc… film of Haley Barbour is on my TV, saying he has to be ”honest” (!) there is not enough boom, nor skimmers, for all that is “headed north”.

Of course, “north” is where he been, for weeks. Whether Dallas, DC, Central Park (yes, with the missus), other points N.. at R fundraisers for his supposed run for pretzel. 

I say he is just dropping in on the national bag men.

Biden and Mabus, the former MS gov who is Ob’s part time Czar for the oil, are on the coast today.  Not that it matters much, full or part-time, I read yesterday Durbin wants Ob to appoint a WH Czar for the Chinese carp that are invading the Great Lakes.

More toadies.  With titles.  And collection plates.

Line them all up, with Haley, and punch their lights out.




1. marisacat - 29 June 2010

Douglas Brinkley, who has played straight man, biographer, ally and apologist to many a dissemblin’ pol, meanwhile always burnishing his Good Boy image in and around the South (and on cable), comes right out and says it… in this Politico article that reeks of the “gone and let it go but for the word games” report:

Brinkley said Obama needs to spell out his plan to restore the Gulf Coast ecology.

“We can either say, ‘It’s a wasteland down there. Forget this way of life. It’s an oil and gas field, and let’s use it as an industrial zone.’ Or we can say, ‘Save the wetlands.’”

Read more: People Mag

Hipparchia who lives on the Gulf coast and posts at corrente, has said from the morning following Ob’s Speech to the Sheeple on the itty bitty problem of the oil, that his device of promising some return to the long gone past, some ultimate restoration of mangrove, wetlands and marshes, etc., was a way to avoid much fo the present issues.


Maybe Obby and Dougie can just get a room, and play off camera.

2. catnip - 29 June 2010

POLITICO Breaking News:

After a meeting on climate change legislation with nearly two dozen senators of both parties, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said President Barack Obama insisted on putting a price on carbon in the bill. Kerry also said he is ready to “scale back” the legislation to gain Republican support.


marisacat - 29 June 2010

Energy Breakthru! NO Energy!

catnip - 29 June 2010

Battered spouse syndrome.

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

did Kerry concede his willingness to compromise from France, like he did back in ’04?

marisacat - 29 June 2010

from France

oh I had forgottn that!! And it was so special

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

I heard a clip on the radio on my way home … thought for some reason they were playing a replay of the hundreds of other times he’s been willing to cave without a fight.

Being a gigolo is such hard work he has no energy left, I guess.

marisacat - 29 June 2010

When I read that Teresa had demanded a Catholic annullment for his first marriage, despite its years and two daughters… welllllll….

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

he, of course, eagerly conceded …


3. marisacat - 29 June 2010

So… what is Markos? A member of the rabid “pollsters’ study set”? Insufficiently shaved around his Adam’s apple?


catnip - 29 June 2010

Hilarious! kossacks live and die by those polls.

marisacat - 29 June 2010

Here is the Ben Smith version. It really is hilarious, esp as Dkos has been Baby Pollster Central from the get go.


Guessing whether pollsters simply concoct their data — it’s cheaper, and more likely to please a client looking for a specific result — is a parlor game among political consultants. That’s what Markos Moulitsas is charging here.

Now, don’t go laughing TOO HARD.

4. ts - 29 June 2010

Word is in my agency that the Dems are not passing a budget before the election, as they don’t want to face the wrath of extending/not extending the Bush tax cuts.

marisacat - 29 June 2010

.. afraid of being labeled! When ti is already too late!!

5. catnip - 29 June 2010

Bob Herbert: off the reservation.

Mr. Obama had campaigned on the mantra of change, and that would have been the kind of change that working people could have gotten behind. But it never happened. Job creation was the trump card in the hand held by Mr. Obama and the Democrats, but they never played it. And now we’re paying a fearful price.

It took him this long to figure that out?

marisacat - 29 June 2010

Bammy was so Bob’s guy… took a long while. And, I will take a flyer that Bob is back on board pretty soon…

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

A brave Toronto protester upset over a REAL outrage.

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010
catnip - 29 June 2010

Human rights abuse inquiries – coming soon.

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

Lots of drama outside my office as the workday ended today: Package found inside federal courthouse not a threat, police say

The discovery of the package shortly after 3:30 p.m. inside a bin used to collect donated school supplies prompted authorities to evacuate the courthouse. Several streets near the courthouse were closed to make room for emergency vehicles.

Security officers thought the package looked suspicious, and a bomb-sniffing dog indicated it might contain explosives, Flynn said. The package was tightly taped and looked “questionable,” he said.

Milwaukee police X-rayed the package but were unable to determine what was inside, Flynn said. The officers then blew up the package with a small explosive device, Flynn said.

The package contained school supplies, printer toner and ink, Flynn said.

about five blocks square of downtown Milwaukee was cordoned off at the beginning of rush hour …

marisacat - 29 June 2010

oh like here a few weeks ago… unnattended package in Union Sq… our downtown ”park”, which appeared in The Conversation (for a visual of the area)… and blocks, major arteries in every direction.. and major department stores were shut down. Shoppers LOCKED in… etc., for hours.

And it was ………………… nothing.

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

I think they cleared it up in about 2 1/2 to 3 hours.

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010


Andrew Smithers, the well-regarded financial consultant and author of “Wall Street Revalued,” calculates from the Fed’s latest Flow of Funds report that corporate profit margins rocketed to 36% in the first quarter. Since records began in 1947 they have never been this high. The highest they got under Ronald Reagan was 30%.

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

Money Is Not Real

Of course, much of the world’s elite understand exactly what they’re doing: i.e., use the economic catastrophe they themselves created as a pretext to kill the welfare state they’ve despised for 65 years. Nonetheless, a significant chunk of them actually believe they’re doing the right thing for everyone.

How is this possible? The best explanation I’ve seen appears in a 1994 book by John Ralston Saul called The Doubter’s Companion. It’s a kind of dictionary—the whole book is just him defining and discussing a bunch of words. And one thing he defines is “debt, unsustainable levels of.” Everything you need to understand about our current attempt to obliterate ourselves can be found within it. His most important point is that money is not real. Yet somehow we’ve decided it’s a great idea to stop feeding real food to real people and cease educating real children in order to demonstrate fealty to an abstract concept.

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

oops, that all should have been blockquoted.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

got it… 😉

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

Taibbi: Lara Logan, You Suck

Anyone who wants to know why network television news hasn’t mattered since the seventies just needs to check out this appearance by Logan. Here’s CBS’s chief foreign correspondent saying out loud on TV that when the man running a war that’s killing thousands of young men and women every year steps on his own dick in front of a journalist, that journalist is supposed to eat the story so as not to embarrass the flag. And the part that really gets me is Logan bitching about how Hastings was dishonest to use human warmth and charm to build up enough of a rapport with his sources that they felt comfortable running their mouths off in front of him. According to Logan, that’s sneaky — and journalists aren’t supposed to be sneaky:

“What I find is the most telling thing about what Michael Hastings said in your interview is that he talked about his manner as pretending to build an illusion of trust and, you know, he’s laid out there what his game is… That is exactly the kind of damaging type of attitude that makes it difficult for reporters who are genuine about what they do, who don’t — I don’t go around in my personal life pretending to be one thing and then being something else. I mean, I find it egregious that anyone would do that in their professional life.”

When I first heard her say that, I thought to myself, “That has to be a joke. It’s sarcasm, right?” But then I went back and replayed the clip – no sarcasm! She meant it! If I’m hearing Logan correctly, what Hastings is supposed to have done in that situation is interrupt these drunken assholes and say, “Excuse me, fellas, I know we’re all having fun and all, but you’re saying things that may not be in your best interest! As a reporter, it is my duty to inform you that you may end up looking like insubordinate douche bags in front of two million Rolling Stone readers if you don’t shut your mouths this very instant!” I mean, where did Logan go to journalism school – the Burson-Marsteller agency?

But Logan goes even further that that. See, according to Logan, not only are reporters not supposed to disclose their agendas to sources at all times, but in the case of covering the military, one isn’t even supposed to have an agenda that might upset the brass! Why? Because there is an “element of trust” that you’re supposed to have when you hang around the likes of a McChrystal. You cover a war commander, he’s got to be able to trust that you’re not going to embarrass him. Otherwise, how can he possibly feel confident that the right message will get out?

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 June 2010

damn, should have included the next paragraph, to add some perspective on how fucked up our militaristic empires priorities are:

True, the Pentagon does have perhaps the single largest public relations apparatus on earth – spending $4.7 billion on P.R. in 2009 alone and employing 27,000 people, a staff nearly as large as the 30,000-person State Department – but is that really enough to ensure positive coverage in a society with armed with a constitutionally-guaranteed free press?

The Pentagon’s PR staff is nearly as big as the whole fucking STATE DEPARTMENT? Is that right?

Jeebus H Xrist on a pointy stick.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

oh but Gates scaled back the Pentagon budget!! Be kind! I think he trimmed all of 10 billion off…

Be nice.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

Poor Lara… such a little war monger she volunteered to be. Craven.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

oh yum yum… I see Tiny Revolution has built on the current stories on Ms Lara…


And here is a comment from that piece:

Maybe everybody knew this already but according to wikipedia:

Logan’s husband is a U.S. Federal Government defense contractor from Texas, whom she met in Iraq.

Posted by: Jeffbbz at June 29, 2010 02:39 PM


And Two

12. BooHooHooMan - 29 June 2010

Oh on Markos the Boychick and Adam and the other Jewish guys trying to screw Ali out of his money so the Atkins brothers or Nate can get the coin while it lasts…

They better hope this guy Del Ali blinks and settles.

A case in point from a box car blog, Blue Jersey.

Monmouth Poll: “Christie, Corzine neck and neck as Daggett fades”
by: Hopeful
Sun Nov 01, 2009 at 01:03:04 AM EDT

There was countless rolling of other similar turd quality polling by Markos on DK, and by his Admins. People that MAMZ, (he of The Skill Of A Third Rate Lawyer Who Consequently Does a Decent Job at OOPS Establishing Ostensible Agency ) People that MAMZ says “represent” dailykos.

We could go back through all those posts leading up to Corzine and Coakley getting walloped where FrontPager after FrontPager said the “Polls are all over the place” . “Polls vary.” “Yawn.” “Not even going to bother going into it”

But Wouldn’t it be great if the real story of the Blog Boyos was told? Exposing ALL their interests – especially the sub-consultancies for campaign work to prime consultants and thus not showing up on FEC reporting? The fundraising scam of ActBlue while touting cooked polls? The inflated site stats and auto-refresh angle to scam page views and beat advertisers? It would be nice to see Markos explain to a civil jury how that’s any different from his initial forray looking for dot.com gold in the gay porno biz. Not that it matters, right?

“Cept that Markos has cast his lot in with the Jeebus humping Donks who’ll throw him under the bus .

Welp. Seems to me if the other guy has phone bills,
Markos and his Sir Nerdlington blogger gang are fucked.
The statistical anomaly shit isn’t going to fly.
With Political Polling? In the U Fuckin S ? 😆
Afterall, you guys heard didn’t ya?
Gore won FLORIDA! Right? Right?
Can we get an Amen for the Gay Porno dude and his
Stock Touting Bud screaming Impropriety? 😆
[ Notice: No Gay Porno Was Harmed in the Making of that Joke]
Who now want to join the Ohio Voter Fraud suit too!
TJWT! They really do!
They can have Joe Trippi as ALL the character witnesses. 😆

I’m out. While, I might add – having entirely too much fun…

13. marisacat - 30 June 2010

hmm and while i was at Tiny Revolution, an excellent post on how stories of debt are being used to strangle us…

Of course, much of the world’s elite understand exactly what they’re doing: i.e., use the economic catastrophe they themselves created as a pretext to kill the welfare state they’ve despised for 65 years. Nonetheless, a significant chunk of them actually believe they’re doing the right thing for everyone.

How is this possible?


marisacat - 30 June 2010

And presto no chango! Here is Megan McCardle, one of the dreariest writers on earth to promote the fallacy…

Business Insider (link below) carries her stuff from The Atalntic at the moment…

She reminds me of children I avoided in nursery school…. 🙄 …. 😆

Austerity In America Will Be Painful, But It Will Be WAY Better Than Having A National Debt Crisis

Megan McArdle | Jun. 30, 5:15 AM | 10 |

Just because the bond vigilantes are in hiding, it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t think abou preventing a catastrophe down the road.

“WAY better”. Yes Megan. Way way way, way way way…. and then some more, way way… better.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/#ixzz0sKJWl0Fq

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

scariest thing about it … NO ONE Is being given a chance to really make a counter argument.

14. marisacat - 30 June 2010

moiv sent me this… and must say it SUMS UP THE DEMOCRATS:

[Y]ou can play a vital role,” said Schumer. “You have great links to many of our Republican senators, they have great respect for you… Please, if you could help us get some Republicans to just sit in a room and talk with us, we could get a bill done this year.” [that, I would call it, is THE BEG — Mcat]

What wasn’t discussed on the call with Conservatives for Comprehensive Immigration Reform was that Schumer had gained the support of conservative evangelicals in part by telling them that the Uniting American Families Act (UAFA)—which would close a loophole that currently prevents US citizens in same-sex, committed relationships from sponsoring their undocumented partners for citizenship—would not be part of the comprehensive package, as he had originally proposed.

Supporters of the UAFA said that Schumer had already committed to include the UAFA—leaving the senator looking like he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. [that, as I would call it, is THE CON — Mcat]

Any guesses, take a flyer in the dark!, where the TRUE sentiments of the fuckwit Dems are?


Maybe this is a job for the Catholic gay immigrant, that one: SULLY.

15. marisacat - 30 June 2010

Oh… who and what does this SOUND LIKE? Of course it took Mabus over TWO WEEKS just to get to the Gulf.

Times-Picayune, NOLA.com

If Louisianians were hoping to get a clearer picture of the federal government’s strategy for fixing their battered coast in the wake of the Gulf oil spill, they didn’t get much help Tuesday from the Obama administration’s new point man for Gulf Coast restoration, who made his first visit to the area since taking the post.

Hours after a flyover of the oil-stained Louisiana shoreline Tuesday, former Mississippi Gov. and current Navy Secretary Ray Mabus delivered this sobering message:

Don’t look for specifics anytime soon.….

The thead is momentarily cheering… with renaming Ob, “President Oshitto” (several used that — must be catching on in the oil soaked Gulf) and use of “maggot mouth” for Mabus.

One poster recalls when Mabus was governor, there was a slogan of “Save us from Mabus”. 😆

Derision must be rising, the engneers,oil industry, various workers, lawyers and assorted others at The Oil Drum, rising talk of hauling off with offing the ptb. Nor is the place a monolith FOR the industry, at all. Heated back and forth over the moratorium case before Judge Feldman, very heated back and forth over the Jones Act and whether or not it is hindering response to the clean up, boats, skimmers and tankers made abroad, etc.

Reminders in threads that some scoundrel bankers and assorted others were pulled from their offices on the 1870s and hung.


16. marisacat - 30 June 2010

lambert at corrente coins (or, I think it’s original with him) “unterbussen”.

In this case, the nearly two million on the unemployment rolls that Obby, with control of WH, Senate and House, just threw …yup, off the rolls and UNDER THE BUS.

They should say hello to his white granny, while there.

ts - 30 June 2010

Lambert could also coin “scheisskopf”, since he also calls him a shithead.

If you’ve got concern about the unemployed, you’ll help them directly with unemployment benefits and welfare programs, not pissant $15 billion “job creation bills”.

We have up to 8 million people in this economy who are flat out not going to be employed for a very long while. They either worked in real estate related industries, where jobs aren’t coming back because the bubble isn’t coming back, or had their job due to the excessive consumption rates due to the bubble, which as I mentioned a second ago is not coming back.

Krugman is worried too, but even he feels that somehow more goverment spending to create jobs is going to save us.

Hey shithead. What people can use is money to pay the bills.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

Yeah the job creation is a joke… people need bridge money, however it gets to them.

is a good one… works for me.

ts - 30 June 2010

And Krugman was all about “We got to give $700 billion to the banks or they won’t make loans.” Not to mention the $100s of billions in backdoor bailouts to have the Treasury, the Fed, AIG, Fannie and Freddie buy all their worthless crap.

From the Fed data on lending Q1’10: Commercial and Industrial Loans, -20.2% annual rate, consumer loans, -16.7% annual rate, real estate loans -9.7% annual rate. Negative lending growth by banks has accelerated since TARP.

So much money wasted on these assholes, and yet the shitheads don’t learn. It sickens.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

And as Alex drives the oil… no hope of a washing or flushing with the side squalls of this hurricane/trop storm… the people in the Gulf wait. Some getting 10 c on the dollar, some 30 c on the dollar from BP… a very few finally after 9 weeks getting 70 – 90% of their initial claims.

There is a very depressing article at MoJo which has better reporting on this than I expected, that the cash fro renting/using boats in the clean up is very restricted, as is per day pay for hands on deck, not anywhere near what they got for fishing. AND they MUST submit to urine tests for drugs to be considered for clean up work.

Too tough. And too cruel. Too nasty, esp coming from the killer.

17. ts - 30 June 2010

Dean Baker: Is advice from the IMF better than from a drunk on the street?

Econ 101: Monetizing the debt has no inflationary effects when you’re already in a deflationary environment.

“Large-scale central bank purchases of government debt will not create inflation in a context of massive unemployment and excess capacity. This is not a point we have to debate. Japan’s central bank has bought an amount of government debt roughly equal to its GDP, yet it remains far more concerned about deflation than inflation. While we could hope to do better on the stimulus front than Japan, inflation is simply not a problem it faces now or even on the distant horizon.”

marisacat - 30 June 2010

It’s very depressing.

18. marisacat - 30 June 2010

Researchers Have Now Found Evidence Of Oil Contamination In Gulf’s Food Chain

Gus Lubin | Jun. 30, 2010, 11:16 AM | 44 |

Researchers made another ugly discovery in the giant Gulf of Mexico petri dish.

Oil particles have been found beneath the shells of larval crabs, according to Mississippi Press. Not only does larva contamination augers ill for other creatures, but it will certainly work its way up the the food chain to affect everything: […]

… and an embedded link of whales swimming in the “danger zone”.

More from the link to the gulf blog at Mississippi Press:

[A]bout 41 percent of the offshore larval pool is covered by oil, she said.

Besides crabs, the larvae grounds include spring and summer spawned fish. “Red snapper are out there now.”

Oil covering the offshore larval grounds threatens a year’s class of crabs, she said.

“Those guys have to have habitat to come back to and if the habitat is impacted, if we have decimated our marshes, then they have no place to grow up,” said Perry. “It is just critical we try to keep our marshes from being impacted by that oil.”

19. ts - 30 June 2010

Let’s see, at $7.45 each, the 14.973 million unemployed will require a $222 million stimulus bill (we’ll get them two kringles, just to make sure they’re happy.)

RACINE, Wis. (AP) — The rap on President Barack Obama is that he doesn’t show enough emotion. But on Wednesday, a pastry made him happy.

En route to a town hall event on the economy, Obama made a surprise detour to O&H Danish Bakery, purveyor of a delicacy called a kringle — a large round flat pastry with a hole in the middle.

Obama walked in with his jacket off and sleeves rolled up and shook hands with the dozen patrons in the store. He sampled a pecan kringle, proclaimed it ”outstanding” and added: ”It makes you happy.”

He ordered one pecan and one cherry. A saleswoman recommended the cheese as well, so he said, ”Let’s get a third!” He insisted on paying full price — $7.45 each.

There you go! Let’s just buy everyone a fucking Kringle.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

I am sure he felt he did a lot. Graced them with his personal kringle-ness.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

I do have to put in a good word for the kringle … they are pretty yummy.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

I don’t know what kringles are? What are they?

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

they’re a flaky pastry, traditional thing from Denmark. They’re kind of a weird hybid of a danish and a pop tart, only formed into a big ring (usually, though some shops will sell smaller ones that are rectangular). There are some decent pictures of them at This bakery’s website

One of the ladies in a department I used to work in when I first moved here used to bring awesome kringles in on Fridays for the team.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

At Yahoo I sw a pic of Our Leader munching on his kringle…. like always he looked bored. Back in the primaries and the GE he did this sort of ‘drop in amongst the locals’ really badly too.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

Biden was much more fun when he was here for Russ’ fundraiser the other day, exchanging words with a manager of a local custard shop who demanded that Biden cut his taxes.

“I’ve had a lot of people in shock, but not really that much in shock, because I guess he’s been known to make those kinds of comments or put his foot in his mouth,” said Borkin, 45, manager of the Kopp’s Frozen Custard stand in Glendale where Vice President Joe Biden and U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold stopped in on Friday.

Biden’s remark that so shocked people was prompted by an exchange picked up by a television crew at Kopp’s on Friday.

The television report shows Biden asking Borkin what he owes for the frozen custard.

“Don’t worry, it’s on the house,” Borkin responds. “Lower our taxes and we’ll call it even.”

The vice president then appears to turn his back on Borkin and ignore him.

Then, Biden returns to Borkin and tells him, “Why don’t you say something nice instead of being a smartass all the time.”

Biden later whispered to Borkin, “I was just kidding,” Borkin said, but the store manager was still surprised by the vice president’s reaction.

“It didn’t seem right, especially from someone in his position,” he said.

Borkin said he’s almost universally received positive comments from people since the Friday exchange, which was picked up on a number of blogs from the Los Angeles Times’ Top of the Ticket to the Drudge Report.

“It was all just in fun,” said Borkin, who called himself a Republican. “I was stating just a fact that everyone in America, Republican or Democrat, wants lower taxes.”

marisacat - 30 June 2010

I was interested to see after that EFFORT on Biden’s part he could barely animate himself down on the Gulf.

These people have so checked out of the rented room

Over. Finis.

20. brinn - 30 June 2010

I’m starting to think that life would be a helluva lot less stressful if I were a sociopath….

Oh, and fuck Obama and his 7 dollar pastries! Get this: i screwed myself out of the auto-extension of my UI benefits by….wait for it…working part time too much. My account ran dry on the 6th of June…missed the auto-extension deadline of May 29 by a week!

*sigh* One of my best friends brought over some extra food that she got with her WIC coupons….’course I don’t qualify ’cause I am not pregnant and don’t have kids under the age of 5. I’d propably make “too much” in any case….

Well, we still have a roof and each other — boy the elder’s summer starts in earnest today (he had to go to summer school), and boy the younger is just cute!


Hope everyone is well (as can be)! 8)

marisacat - 30 June 2010

Get this: i screwed myself out of the auto-extension of my UI benefits by….wait for it…working part time too much.

the whole thing gets very tricky… I doubt anyone can figure it out.. esp with no help…

Frankly I am amazed that Texas participates in the WIC program.

brinn - 1 July 2010

Oh, the state has no problem administering social programs that are 100% federally funded! heh

The WIC program is actually very robust, but the eligibility requirements leave a lot of needy people out….I never really understood the whole “kids under 5” thing, like what on their 6th birthday you can stop feeding them?! I suppose it has to do with them being old enough to go to school, but if you can get a job with school hour schedule that pays enough to take care of business, I’ve never heard of it. It is a horrible catch-22 with kids — when I heard that Sharron Angle interview, I wanted to reach through my TV and throttle her.

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

they purposely make the rules hard to navigate … fuckers.

brinn - 1 July 2010

Well, it wasn’t hard to understand, it’s just that I knew it would last forever, so when these part time jobs came up, I had to take them….I should have not, but my sense of ethics just doesn’t work that way….like I said, like would be a whole lot easier if I were a sociopath! 😮

Ah, well, things could be worse, and, at least for the time being, they aren’t!

brinn - 1 July 2010

Would NOT, NOT last forever….

Also, if you turn down a job offer, even part-time, they can take away your benefits… of course they can take away your benefits if you say that your part-time job keep you from being immediately available to accept a full-time job should it miraculously fall out the sky one day as well…

I was lucky in that I could honestly say that my PTs would NOT interfere with that, since they’re both online, but they really put you in an awful situation, because of course if you “lie” to them, they can not only cut off your benefits, but make you pay them all back too!

What a fucked up mess.

marisacat - 1 July 2010

the only way to make it work is to somehow work under the table while getting unemployment.

I had a less than full-time job back in the early 70s while I was on unemployment… the job paid once a month, on the first. So I just claimed I earned that for the week, rahter than for the month. At that time, they simply held back your Unemployment for THAT WEEK… it in fact extended the time you received the payments…

But one thing s absolutely certain, ALL federal and state programs were simpler back then.

marisacat - 1 July 2010

It is now set up to be almost completely ”no win” situation…

catnip - 30 June 2010

cause I am not pregnant


No, forget it…

brinn - 1 July 2010

It’s forgotten! Believe me! 😉

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

‘Weapons’ seized in G20 arrests not what they seem

Chief Bill Blair, who told reporters the items were evidence of the protesters’ intent, singled out arrows covered in sports socks, which he said were designed to be dipped in a flammable liquid and set ablaze.

However, the arrows belong to Brian Barrett, a 25-year-old landscaper who was heading to a role-playing fantasy game when he was stopped at Union Station on Saturday morning. Police took his jousting gear but let Mr. Barrett go, saying it was a case of bad timing.

In addition to the arrows – which Mr. Barrett made safe for live-action role playing by cutting off the pointy ends and attaching a bit of pool noodle covered in socks – police displayed his metal body armour, foam shields and several clubs made of plastic tubing covered with foam and fabric.

Mr. Barrett said he was “appalled” at the placement of his chain-mail beneath a machete. He regularly takes public transit from his Whitby, Ont., home to Centennial Park to play the game, called Amtgard, while wearing the 85-pound armour and is worried people will think: “Oh my God, that’s one of the terrorists from G20.”

Police also displayed a crossbow and chainsaw seized in an incident on Friday that they said had no ties to the summit. When asked, Chief Blair acknowledged they were unrelated, but said “everything else” had been confiscated from demonstrators.

On Wednesday, however, Michael Went and Doug Kerr e-mailed a letter to Chief Blair saying their bamboo poles may have been included in the exhibit. As they headed to a picnic to commemorate the 1969 Stonewall riots on Sunday morning, police seized seven or eight of the long poles, citing the G20 summit. The couple had planned to use the poles to fly a rainbow flag and decorate the park.

“It makes you wonder what are the other things that they’ve displayed [that] were taken from people on the street that weren’t doing anything wrong?” asked Mr. Kerr, a 42-year-old management consultant.

catnip - 30 June 2010

Chief admits 5-metre G20 security rule didn’t exist

Imaginary laws. What could possibly go wrong?

marisacat - 30 June 2010

I suppose something less than imaginary, as in R-E-A-L, could go wrong. That sort of anti-pattern pattern we live with.

They toss out imaginary laws and rules and people actually, really suffer under them.

But the authorities have a very weird, very ultimate “deniability”. Who knew it mattered?

catnip - 30 June 2010

Well, it’s going to matter once Amnesty Int and the civil liberties union are done with them.

I haven’t seen stats yet on how many people were arrested in those areas (out of the 900 they scooped up) but I expect there are going to be lawsuits for a very long time.

And who are the “thugs” again?

Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

I think they think the payoff in intimidation of people is worth the settlements.

22. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

The end is nigh…unless it’s not

The (more or less) flat line is what happens under current law. O..kay. So why the big hurry to totally cripple welfare programs?

Well, for starters, the rich have always hated and resented these benefits, and during times of panic and crisis, they use the chaos as an opportunity to gut social programs. And the simple reason they do this is to make more money. If less tax dollars have to go toward feeding poor people, then they get to hoard more of their wealth.

It seems like a crazy level of nefarious viciousness, but that really is the short version of why they do it. Many delude themselves while doing this by saying out loud that rich people simply work harder, or unemployed people are too picky when looking for jobs, but that callous indifference is a thin shell resting atop a core of classist hostility.

marisacat - 30 June 2010

And I doubt that Pete Petersen is the only gazillionaire to pungle up a billion behind this sort of “Cut them off at the ankles… and NO TOURNIQUETS!”

23. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010
24. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

Dozens of U.S. Citizens on Assassination List, White House Adviser Hints

In an interview last week with the Washington Times, however, Deputy White House National Security Adviser for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism John O. Brennan suggested the number might actually amount to “dozens.”

“There are, in my mind, dozens of U.S. persons who are in different parts of the world, and they are very concerning to us,” Brennan stated, “not just because of the passport they hold, but because they understand our operational environment here, they bring with them certain skills, whether it be language skills or familiarity with potential targets, and they are very worrisome, and we are determined to take away their ability to assist with terrorist attacks,”

“If an American person or citizen is in a Yemen or in a Pakistan or in Somalia or another place, and they are trying to carry out attacks against U.S. interests, they also will face the full brunt of a U.S. response,” Brennan continued. “What we need to do is to apply the appropriate tool and the appropriate response.”

marisacat - 30 June 2010

..moving this last comment forward to the new thread, Madman…


25. marisacat - 30 June 2010



………………… 😆 laugh laugh laugh… Might as well…

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