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Wave upon wave… 30 June 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, Sex / Reproductive Health, The Battle for New Orleans.

Hurricane Alex delays Gulf oil clean-up efforts

A containment boom is placed along a beach in Elmer’s Island, Louisiana as efforts to clean the beach from effects of the Deepwater Horizon spill arehalted due to bad weather. Hurricane Alex disrupted the BP oil spill clean-up in the Gulf of Mexico as the storm gathered strength and was expected to make landfall.… Read more »

(AFP/Getty Images/Joe Raedle)

hmmm they don’t mention that Elmer’s Island is FEDERALLY protected beach… public land. Or, I should say, previously open to the public.

HOWEVER, after a few days of unfettered access following the explosion of Deep Water Horizon, a truck from the sheriff’s office appeared, parked at the single road turn-off leading to EI, telling media and others, locals too, that if they wanted access they had to go to a BP center and APPLY.

Glory in our freedom. To be serfs.


I snagged this directly from a thread at The Oil Drum… a handy comment from someone shut-in today and thus spending some productive time looking at Corexit and its banning in the UK:

 [new] k3d59 on June 30, 2010 – 5:58pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Parent subthread | Comments top

I brought you all a present. Have to wait for the weather to improve to go outside, so I spent the day researching previously discussed TOD topics. Ever wonder why Corexit was banned in the UK? Here’s excerpts from the documents of the entity that is responsible for monitoring and approval over there. BTW, note that the Rocky Shore Test used an exposure period of six hours followed by rinsing. That’s not even close to what’s going on in the Gulf. Brits They have a nice way of handling bioremediation products too. EPA could take lessons. All protocols are on the Marine Management site as are the results for each product approved for use in UK.

Marine Management dot org/UK

Oil spill treatment products approved for use in the United Kingdom

All products approved after 1 April 1996 have been required to pass both the Sea/Beach and Rocky Shore Toxicity Tests. Any products coming up for renewal that have only passed the Sea/Beach toxicity test in the past are required, before they can be renewed, to pass the Rocky Shore Test also.

The following products have been removed from the list of approved products because they did not pass the Rocky Shore Test when submitted for renewal:

Chemkleen OSDA JAC (removed from list 21/01/1998)
****Corexit 9527 (removed from list 30/07/1998)
Corexit 9500 (removed from list 30/07/1998)

Sea Test

“This test is based on the premise that if oil treatment products are correctly applied to an oil slick at sea,marine organisms will be exposed to a mixture of oil and product, rather than to a suspension or solution of product alone. The test therefore compares the toxicity of oil dispersed under standard conditions of mechanical agitation, with that of the same amount of oil treated with the product in question under the same conditions of mechanical agitation.
Research has shown that concentrations of oil especially dispersed oil) under slicks reduce rapidly in the first few hours (Cormack, 1977). It was, however, technically difficult and unrealistic in a routine andreproducible laboratory test to reproduce this phenomenon. Therefore, it was decided to base the test on the exposure of a marine organism to a fixed concentration for a fixed period.”

Rocky Shore Toxicity Test

“The intertidal zone is of great value both in amenity and ecological terms. Toxic effects of beached oil treatment(dispersant spraying etc.) are likely to have only limited impact on commercial fisheries e.g. cockles etc., on sandy beaches and will be relatively benign on dynamic pebble beaches where there is good drainage and a relatively impoverished species community. Therefore,for these environments (i.e. sandy/pebble amenity beaches) it is assumed that a product passing the Sea Test will be of an acceptably low risk. However, the death of grazing organisms (e.g. winkles and limpets)that inhabit rocky shores can lead to a much more significant deleterious ecological change due to extensive uncontrolled growth of seaweed. Consequently a toxicity test was developed using a typical intertidal grazing organism, the common limpet (Patella vulgata L.).

“…When products are used to clean oil from beaches,animals are exposed to very different conditions to that experienced at sea. Both oiled and unoiled animals may be exposed to neat product and left exposed until they are washed by the next incoming tide or the use of water hoses. The Rocky Shore toxicity test for all dispersants and bioremediation agents has therefore been based on these exposure conditions…

“Preliminary tests in the laboratory showed that the mortality of limpets exposed to oil is high and the detection of a toxic effect due to the product over and above that of the oil would be difficult and less accurate than determination of the effect of the product alone. Additionally, a product is likely to be applied over wide areas of shore and the evaluation of a particular product should also take into account the effect of the product on those parts which are un-oiled as well as those which are oiled. Therefore, the test finally adopted was designed to assess the effect of application of the product on un-oiled limpets. The amounts of product applied to the test organism were based on the density of application likely to be encountered in practice. Similarly, the test sought to simulate the initial exposure to a product for an ***average period of 6 h followed by successive tidal rinsing***.   In order to compensate for seasonal variations in the susceptibility of the test species, the effects of a standard oil alone were also assessed…”

Apparently tar balls — from whatever source — have hit Texas beaches… and at today’s presser Admiral Allen somehow already knows it is seepage from the Keys.

Ex-ray eyes!  Mind reading!  He tele-ported!  Communication with the shell fish down in the Keys…! A great big sea shell called him up!!  E-mailed him!  One of the Hemingway cats told him!  The coral soon to be under threat told him!

He just knows.


THIS via the People mag for politics… gave me a laugh.  Calling him on his hypocrisy.

Barack Obama

Gay soldiers subpoena Obama

The gay soldiers arrested outside the White House protesting “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” will annouce today that they’re demanding that President Obama testify in their trial on minor civil disobedience charges.

Their novel argument: Obama himself called on gay rights advocates to pressure him, so they were just following orders.

“Don’t Ask” has energized gay rights activists frustrated with the White House’s deliberate pace, even as Democratic leaders are frustrated with continued protests, as repeal is on track for next year.

The subpoena in the defense of Lieutenant Dan Choi and Captain James Pietrangelo’s  arrest  [….]


President Obama, accompanied by Mayor John Dickert, tries a pecan kringle during an unscheduled stop at O and H Bakery in Racine, Wis., Wednesday, June 30.   [AP Photo/Charles Dharapak]

Oh just have a kringle and shut up.  Be happy…



1. marisacat - 30 June 2010

Madman comment from the tag end of he previous thread…. :


Dozens of U.S. Citizens on Assassination List, White House Adviser Hints

In an interview last week with the Washington Times, however, Deputy White House National Security Adviser for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism John O. Brennan suggested the number might actually amount to “dozens.”

“There are, in my mind, dozens of U.S. persons who are in different parts of the world, and they are very concerning to us,” Brennan stated, “not just because of the passport they hold, but because they understand our operational environment here, they bring with them certain skills, whether it be language skills or familiarity with potential targets, and they are very worrisome, and we are determined to take away their ability to assist with terrorist attacks,”

“If an American person or citizen is in a Yemen or in a Pakistan or in Somalia or another place, and they are trying to carry out attacks against U.S. interests, they also will face the full brunt of a U.S. response,” Brennan continued. “What we need to do is to apply the appropriate tool and the appropriate response.”

****** Close of comment

catnip - 1 July 2010

Well well well…I could swear I heard Panetta on one of the Sunday shows this past weekend saying there was no list – nobody was on a list.

marisacat - 1 July 2010

well the crew in office now seem like rabid list makers. One reason they are so utterly out of it, I mean in the sense of pols. No ears. Forget “tin ears”. I say NO EARS.

2. Madman in the Marketplace - 30 June 2010

Lt. Choi and his cohorts are just great. He’s got a natural flair for protesting effectively, despite the best efforts of almost everyone to ignore him and his group.

“just following orders” …. oh, that just so made me smile!

marisacat - 30 June 2010

yeah me too… and I had slept most of the day and almost did not bother to drop in on People mag… 😆

3. catnip - 1 July 2010

First look at Daily Kos’s lawsuit: Charges Research 2000 with “fraudulently manufacturing phony results”

4) The suit says that there was no formal written contract between the two parties, claiming the deal was made verbally and by email.

Heckuva job, kos!

marisacat - 1 July 2010

oh that is hilarious!! People Mag, Politico has been going crazy with this… Like Kos discovered the rainbow and the pot of gold, or soemthing.

Can’t think why. ANYONE who bought into polls, in a broad brush general way, was just part of PROPAGANDA.

And that would be Kos.


As I always say, “polls are part of chatter”.

big fat snicker… 😆

catnip - 1 July 2010

The guy’s writing is a mess. Gee. You’d think that might have been a sign about his level of professional acumen?

Popcorn on the grill.

ts - 2 July 2010

It makes no sense that partisan groups would ever hold objective polls. I remember clinton’s “polls” that came to my mailbox as a young voter: “Do you want universal health care or do you want Republicans to rape your pets?”

marisacat - 2 July 2010

I distrust almost all polling… partisan and not…

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 July 2010
5. catnip - 1 July 2010

It wasn’t motherfucking snakes on a plane, it was maggots.

Maggots falling from an overhead luggage locker have forced a US Airways flight to return to the gate at Atlanta airport.

“Bugs just began to fall out of the overhead compartment” causing panic on board, passenger Desiree Harrell was quoted as saying by Associated Press.

All the passengers were then asked to get off so crews could clean the plane.

The airline said a container of spoiled meat brought on by a passenger caused the delay of the flight to Charlotte.

catnip - 1 July 2010

“All of a sudden, I felt somebody flick the back of my hair and on the front of me came a maggot, which I flicked off me.

But she said she “felt like they were crawling all over me because it only takes one maggot to upset your world”.

“And as they’re telling us to stay calm and seated, I see a maggot looking back at me and I’m thinking, ‘These are anaerobic, flesh-eating larvae that the flight attendants don’t have to sit with.'”

lol…that’s definitely one way to put it.

marisacat - 1 July 2010

How does anyone get on a plane to day with a carton (or whatever it was) of spoiled meat?

Kind of blows me away. the smell alone did not alert anyone? At all thse check points we are forced thru.

And obviously an OPEN carton.

What a horrifying story.

6. catnip - 1 July 2010
marisacat - 1 July 2010

Please don’t send us Ignatieff (again!)… at least since he has an official spot in one of the parties (do I have that right?) he stys north a lot more.

catnip - 1 July 2010

He’s the leader of the Liberal party and you can have him back any time now.

marisacat - 1 July 2010

oh no YOU keep his pompous ass!

(Can’t you sic some geese on him?)


catnip - 2 July 2010

He’d probably bore them to death – and then eat them.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

oh, that gave me a laugh…. 😆

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 1 July 2010
marisacat - 1 July 2010

oh thanks for that… she has lots of interesting posts.

There are too many stories of vast sheets of oill 2, 3, 6 feet under the beaches… oen of the old guys at The Oil Drum who lives at Gulf Shores AL, wants to dig and videotape, but is afraid of being arrested.

There is going to have to be civil disobedience, mass scale, if people expect anything to change. ‘Cuz this is IT. BP firmly in charge, Obby checking his dog collar… busy soliciting a BP endowment of some wing of his library at UC


8. marisacat - 2 July 2010

man alive.

Chris Bowers on his long journey away from (he says, I call bullshit) radical politics to seeing the Great Value of mainstreaming it with the spineless weak as dead flies Dems.

Clue: YEARS AGO he was blaming “the left” for all electoral losses, at Dkos. IN threads. Prolly did a diary or two or three.


AND right before that, Mike Lux, nothing but an operative, talks about the R being so fucking rad is saving the Dems .


Boyz… boyz. Read yourselves.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

I should mention that I landed on the Bowers frantic pre-election SLURP, via vastleft at corrente.

ts - 2 July 2010

This is the Khmer Rouge…this is the year zero. there is no past.

catnip - 2 July 2010


The last point is perhaps the most important of all–the Greens lost most of their supporters because they failed to convince people they were making a positive difference.

ORLY? And the fact that Dems and their supporters did everything they could to pin the blame for Bush’s “election” on Nader had absolutely nothing to do with that?

They’re still doing it.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

yeah, horrible little treatise on his part…

catnip - 2 July 2010

Always grasping at straws to continue supporting these Dems. Not much left, is there?

9. marisacat - 2 July 2010

oh wow.. Mel Gibson is a foulmouthed racist mysoginistic Mad Max.


Who coulda guessed? Isn’t all of this his, ya know, umpteenth pop off?

10. marisacat - 2 July 2010

Kevin Drum is scraping the pre election barrel as well. It’s not Obby (how could it be????)… Kev says it is his own schizophrenia.

Boy you gotta wonder at the scraping. Not much to scrape up, unless of course YOU LIE.

My brain tells me that, given the realities and constraints of American politics, he’s done pretty well:

a big stimulus package, the Lilly Ledbetter Act, healthcare reform, withdrawal from Iraq seemingly on schedule, a decent start on rationalizing Pentagon procurement [oh boy! – Mcat], financial reform (maybe), and progress on DADT (hopefully).

Even his Afghanistan policy, which I don’t agree with, was deeply considered and responsive to the obvious limitations of military action.

As long his policies on killing are “deeply considered” and “responsive”, it’s all OK.

Honey NOBODY remembers the Lily Ledbetter Act by now. Tho I am sure Dem operatives will read the Clif Notes and talk to wimmens about it.

And the rest is almost all HOPIUM. And, care to discuss QUANTANAMO

catnip - 2 July 2010

rationalizing Pentagon procurement

And he’d have to rationalize giving more contracts to Xe…

11. marisacat - 2 July 2010

It comes from the Right, Patrick Ruffini… but gee is anyone too surprised?

In my previous post on Kos and Research 2000 I noted how weird it was that Kos could afford to commission dozens of campaign polls given that by (his own admission) he runs a low seven-figure operation and the polls are likely far from his main traffic driver — though I’m sure they don’t hurt eyeballs-wise.

I put this question to a pollster, who said R2K’s claimed methodology and the likely cost of doing such polls legitimately raised immediate red flags. The pollster pointed me to this massive, 2000-person survey limited to Republicans back from January, commenting thusly:

catnip - 2 July 2010

He used a lot of their data for his new book which he’s now had to edit. Probably thought the $$$ would be worth it with the book revenues he imagined he’d get.

I just don’t know how anybody – except the willfully blind – could have followed those Obama approval numbers over the months and not have figured out that something was wrong.

12. ts - 2 July 2010

Employment falls 125,000, unemployment rate at 9.5%.

There are about 5.4 million more people today that are “not in the labor force” for whatever reason, than when the recession started in late 2007/early 2008. Many of these are marginal workers (second incomes staying at home, students going back to school, seniors living on ss/pension, who tend to leave the labor force during every recession as jobs. However, 5.4 million of these far, far exceeds the number added during any previous recession. The employment/population ratio fell to 58.5%, a number first reached in 1983.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

Meanwhile Obby goes to Andrews AFB to deliver his [less than] bon mots on unemployment. Of all places.

catnip - 2 July 2010

And he plans to cut the deficit in half by the target date how, exactly?

(I guess the cat food commission is his holy grail.)

ts - 2 July 2010

He’s gonna create the jobs by sending civilians out to Afghanistan, or whatever. Everyone else can just shut up and eat their Kringle.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

well.. if that.

He spoke in front of Marine One.. and its engines were running as he spoke. I saw an extended clip of it and couldn’t miss either the helicopter or the running engines.

According to this photo from Yahoo slideshow, it was a photo op, speaking version, for a clutch of photogs.

Potemkin? I’d say so.

After this stop off they went on to th funeral for Byrd.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

He’s got both Marine One AND AF One with him.

AND teleprompters. AND he had notes in front of him on the podium.

I guess thsi is a hard job. Or something.

13. marisacat - 2 July 2010

well… the oil is on the seabed off Louisiana, so no shock it is off Alabama. By now.

Full text, AP from Press Register:

Oil spill confirmed to be in seabed off Alabama coast

Published: Thursday, July 01, 2010, 8:50 PM

BAYOU LA BATRE, Ala. — Alabama Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley says officials have found oil on the seabed just off the state’s coast, confirming fears that the Gulf oil spill could be doing more damage than is readily apparent from the surface.

Barnett said Thursday that nets used by the state to determine what’s on the bottom pulled up submerged oil and shrimp as recently as last week.

Scientists have said the massive spill off the coast of Louisiana could be contaminating the seafloor as badly or even worse than surface waters, and the discovery by the state indicates those predictions could be correct.

Large areas of oxygen-depleted water also have been found.

Lawley says the testing will continue to determine the extent of underwater pollution.

14. catnip - 2 July 2010

CNN’s Rich Sanchez after a bit he did with Phillippe Cousteau: “Phillippe Cousteau, good-looking guy, part of the CNN team…”


15. catnip - 2 July 2010

BP Slick blog. The guy has some devastating video he filmed flying over the gulf.

(And that was Rick Sanchez, of course. Dolt that he is.)

16. marisacat - 2 July 2010

Model shows high chance of oil hitting South Florida

Published: Friday, July 02, 2010, 12:46 PM

A new computer model shows oil from the massive Gulf of Mexico spill has as high as an 80 percent chance of reaching the Florida Keys and Miami.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released the forecast Friday. It shows a 61 to 80 percent chance of sheen, tar balls or other oil remnants coming within 20 miles of Florida’s eastern coast, from the Keys north to the Fort Lauderdale area, by on Aug. 18.

Outside those areas and the Florida Panhandle, which has already seen beaches littered with tar balls, other areas show a low probability of oil. The state’s western coast has a 20 percent chance or lower of seeing oil, and parts of southwest Florida have less than a 1 percent chance.

catnip - 2 July 2010

But Obama said the beaches were safe! Where’s my fainting couch?

17. catnip - 2 July 2010

So…how’s that Token GOP Black Guy thing working out for you?

marisacat - 2 July 2010

I wonder if he can keep his job over this one.

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2010

lucky for him they hadn’t managed to kill off affirmative action policies before he got his job.

18. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2010

The Onion’s Special Patriotism Issue full of great stories. Top headlines:

U.S. Flag Recalled After Causing 143 Million Deaths

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be

Nation Secretly Hoping 9/11 Becomes A Day Off Soon

marisacat - 2 July 2010

Good thing The Onion just keeps on.

Luv the “9/11 National Holiday”… I am sure they do.

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2010
20. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2010

Oil FAIL: Methane 100,000 times normal, threatens bottom of Gulf food chain

In two separate research voyages, independent scientists have detected what were described as “astonishingly high” levels of methane, or natural gas, bubbling from the well site, setting off a chain of reactions that suck the oxygen out of the water. In some cases, methane concentrations are 100,000 times normal levels….

In a conference call with reporters, Samantha Joye, a scientist at the University of Georgia who has been studying the effects of the spill at depth, said the ruptured well was producing up to 50% as much methane and other gases as oil.

Joye said her preliminary findings suggested the high volume of methane coming out of the well could upset the ocean food chain. Such high concentrations, it is feared, would trigger the growth of microbes, which break up the methane, but also gobble up oxygen needed by marine life to survive, driving out other living things.

Joye said the methane was settling in a 200-metre layer of the water column, between depths of 1,000 to 1,300 metres in concentrations that were already threatening oxygen levels.

“That water can go completely anoxic [extremely low oxygen] and that is a pretty serious situation for any oxygen-requiring organism. We haven’t seen zero-oxygen water but there is certainly enough gas in the water to draw oxygen down to zero,” she said.

“It could wreak havoc with those communities that require oxygen,” Joye said, wiping out plankton and other organisms at the bottom of the food chain.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

over and over what we hear from the disparate researchers is “dead zone” very little oxygen, no oxygen. It is what they are saying about the close in areas where the sea bed is covered in oil.

Wees ago I saw film of a researcher with a camera crew in the marshes… masses of little (very small) shell beings flushed up, dead, at the base of the marshland. He said it looked like they landed there, frantic for air. He had nto seen ti befoe.

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2010

Jackson County, in NW WI, has a winger DA who just loves the Supreme’s ruling: Jackson County DA says he won’t prosecute several state gun offenses

Jackson County DA says he won’t prosecute several state gun offenses

By Bruce Vielmetti of the Journal Sentinel

Posted: July 2, 2010 12:56 p.m. |(75) Comments

Carrying a concealed weapon is now legal in Wisconsin – at least in one county of the state.

Jackson County District Attorney Gerald R. Fox has declared that, in light of the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling this week that the Second Amendment clearly applies to the states, he will no longer prosecute people for carrying concealed weapons, or certain other gun related offenses.

The high court’s ruling in McDonald vs. Chicago, “immediately renders some of Wisconsin’s current laws unconstitutional,” Fox said in a news release. Therefore, he said, his office won’t take any cases police might refer that are solely about violations of concealed carry, uncased or loaded weapons in vehicles, guns in public buildings or where alcohol is sold or served. Nor will Fox prosecute the possession of switchblade and other types of easy-opening knives.

Fox said he will still “vigorously enforce” laws against the unlawful use of firearms, such as being a felon with a gun, or intoxicated with a gun, using a gun to commit a crime or handling a gun in a negligent manner.

“Only by the strictest adherence to firearm safety rules and common sense will we show that the elitists who seek to disarm all of us are wrong, and that every law abiding citizen can be trusted to protect themselves and their neighbors safely.”

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2010

sorry, didn’t mean that long list of crap at the top to be in there.

marisacat - 2 July 2010

don’t worry I will jsut nip it out… 😉

Madman in the Marketplace - 2 July 2010


22. marisacat - 2 July 2010



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