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So… 9 September 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, WAR!.

Jakarta, Indonesia: Members of the Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir Indonesia hold placards during a protest in front of the US embassy on 4 September [Mast Irham/EPA]

Guardian headline and text for the gallery:

Muslims protest against US church plans to burn the Qur’an

Muslims around the world called for Barack Obama’s death at protests to denounce a US church’s plans to burn the Islamic holy book on the anniversary of 9/11.

hmm, the placards:   Only Coward Burn Qu’ran; Only Caliphate Can Stop American Arrogance; Caliphate The True Shield of Qu’ran; You Burn Qu’ran You Burn In Hell

Howzit going?

Think a speech would help?

And that’s Indonesia… where he is supposed to have some [ephemeral as all hell] connection.


I am not all that impressed, up down or sideways, I remain convinced much of this is bought and paid for, there and here, all sides… however, this sort of thing just freaks people out… and some, at the least, thought Obby was a  heavy wet wool blanket to throw over any acknowledgement of our actions.   Something we will never do:   genuinely admit wrong..

Now what?




1. marisacat - 9 September 2010


House Republicans have held a series of private discussions to plot their first moves if they win the majority in November — with plans to use spending bills and subpoenas to rein in President Barack Obama and satiate their own ravenous base.

Feeding the base! What a concept!

Republicans recognize they won’t be able to do any broad governing even if they take back the House; they’d hold just one chamber of Congress, or at most one branch of government, if they also win the Senate. So officials familiar with the early discussions say they’ve centered on undoing key parts of the Obama agenda and repositioning Republicans as the party of fiscal responsibility heading into 2012 – a mantle it surrendered during the big-spending Bush years.

The plans presently under discussion include defunding some parts of the new health care law and delaying implementation of others, withholding some of the unspent stimulus funds, and using the oversight power of Republican-led committees to investigate the Obama administration. …

Read more: Link

ts - 9 September 2010

It will be interesting to see if they go for outright repeal of “obamacare”. I would think they like the mandate as much as the Democrats do.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

oh yeah …that was a joint hatching…

Revisionist - 9 September 2010

The question is would anyone notice since no one can see what this “historic” bill has done for them in the first place.

ts - 9 September 2010

They’ll know in 2014!

kevinearllynch - 10 September 2010

Hope everyone there is safe from the fire

good luck to all the NoCali folk

2. marisacat - 9 September 2010

More whoops. Off the circuit! Hunkered down at home!

CHICAGO — White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has called off a previously scheduled weekend trip to his hometown of Chicago, which would have come just days after the city’s longtime mayor, Richard Daley, stunned the political establishment Tuesday by announcing he will not run for reelection — fueling speculation that Emanuel will run to replace him.

Emanuel’s spokeswoman, Meridith Webster, did not specify why the former Chicago congressman canceled his trip, only that he “needs to say in D.C. this weekend” because of “scheduling conflicts.” Emanuel was a featured guest at three major fundraisers on Sunday and Monday in downtown Chicago for vulnerable House Democrats. Webster said the events for Reps. Debbie Halvorson of Illinois, Betsy Markey of Colorado and Allen Boyd of Florida will be rescheduled. ….

Read more: Link to People Mag

3. catnip - 9 September 2010

More slobberation:

Speaking to Comedy Central’s Stephen Colbert, who conducted a rare serious interview with the vice president, Biden was asked what he would say to Bush as the United States meets a preliminary deadline set by President Obama in 2009 for the withdrawal of combat troops this week.

“Mr. President, thank you,” said Biden, addressing a hypothetical Bush. “I’ve known you for all eight years of your presidency, and I’ve never known a time when you didn’t care.”

Asked whether Bush deserves credit for the end of combat operations, Biden said earnestly, “You deserve a lot of credit.”

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

ugh, I threw up in my mouth a little reading that.

4. BooHooHooMan - 9 September 2010

Another from E.J. “Powdered-Ass-with-Matching-Wig”

Nothin like a good cornerman in the ring if you can get past all the powder and the Pompadour. That is, until he starts fuckin bawlin…which doesn’t take long.

Obama Shows He Can Do Battle
By E.J. Dionne

WASHINGTON — President Obama decided

{ BTW, same “Deciderer” TPM note Markos parroting” – bhhm}

..decided this week to raise the stakes in this fall’s election by making the choice about something instead of nothing but anger.

In the process, he will confront

a deeply embedded media narrative …

That Hope Springs Eternal and Sparkle Ponies for All are just around the corner?? No? No? Not that embedded narrative? What, say you, E.J. With Your Jammies On of the Unembedded?
Unfair!WannanotherStory! ~narrative~ is that?
Well, I love You, E.J.

a deeply embedded media narrative that sees a Republican triumph as all but inevitable. Paradoxically, such extravagant expectations may be the GOP’s biggest problem — by raising the bar for what will constitute success, and by discouraging necessary strategic adjustments should our newly combative president begin to alter the political battlefield.

Until Obama’s Labor Day speech…

Same memo, while I digress here, as ex Hill staffer , minor operative, dailykos front pager, desperate ratfucker as of a few days ago ooops now blinking and backpedalling from the DUMB stunt before Stoller or Bowers or whoever among the other boychicks involved gets tripped up.. .. Anyways same “Labor Day as Turning Point” bullshit memo as Jed Lewison.

Anyways, Back to finish off E.J.

Until Obama’s Labor Day speech in Milwaukee and his Cleveland-area statement of principles 😆 on Wednesday, it was not clear how much heart he had in the fight, or whether he’d ever offer a comprehensive argument…

😆 Oh yeh,
you got a REAL fighter on your hands, ‘toonkins.
All I can say is…
get back in the ring. LOL.

BooHooHooMan - 9 September 2010

Anyways, the thing with Lewison, so obvious he and the boychicks are behind this Stupid dirty trick / eyeballs to DK stunt of accusing a paid Rand Paul staffer of “infiltrating their site.

One, aside from nobody giving a fuck in Kentucky, it isn’t going to get them more in the Party offering plate than the peanuts and their little dicks that they’re struggling to find.

And it isn’t going to get them more than the now well under HALF of those “million hits a day” they repeatedly, and BULLSHITTEDLY claim. LOL.

To wit, from sitemeter,

Duration of site “visit”
Pages viewed per visit.

So their GoogleBombing and clickscam thing is pretty well exposed. They’re not called on it in terms of mutual media buzz generation but ut that other thing but they ain’t making money off this shit like they used to..
The thing they have Bowers doing, scouring all Dkosser’s for updated email addy’s , now that gmail has fucking ADS linked to the content, that’s their latest little number…


Revisionist - 9 September 2010

I mentioned below. I get nearly daily spam now from MAMZ for an account that I havent used since 2006 because I was a “purity troll” Wonder if Sheehan and Palast are getting similar spam? Someone should write something up about them scraping the bottom of their barrel and solicting from “BANNED” users.

And as I said below, if you believe their numbers they have about a .5% response to all their money bombs and whatnot.

5. catnip - 9 September 2010

Whatever Happened to Obama’s Army?

What happened to Barack Obama’s once vaunted political machine? The outfit that put upwards of 8 million volunteers on the street in 2008 — known as Organizing for America — is a ghost of its former self. Its staff has shrunk from 6,000 to 300, and its donors are depressed: receipts are a fraction of what they were in 2008. Virtually no one in politics believes it will turn many contests this fall. “There’s no chance that OFA is going to have the slightest impact on the midterms,” says Charlie Cook, who tracks congressional races.

They’re all hanging at the Big L’Orange. And they’re annoying as fuck.

This is interesting:

So earlier this year, when the White House gave OFA a whopping $30 million — more than half of the party’s entire budget for 2010 — senior Democrats suspected a hidden agenda. Several tell Time that OFA boss David Plouffe, who ran Obama’s 2008 campaign, is using the cash to rebuild an army for 2012 under the cover of boosting turnout in 2010. OFA is putting staff into such states as Virginia, North Carolina and Arizona, which have few close statewide races this fall but which are all prime targets in an Obama re-election campaign. “This is totally about 2012,” Cook says.

Might as well change the name to “Organizing For Obama” and get it over with.

BooHooHooMan - 9 September 2010

Oh, LOL. Thanks for that.
Might as well change the name to ..
Organizing for ___________…

Oh that could be fun.
MORE War? Goldman Sachs? Tax cuts for Bidness? Blackwater getting Reinstated? A GOP majority? EcoDisaster?
AND…ya can leave it blank, too.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

they should jsut call it OFM.

“Organising for Money”.

BooHooHooMan - 9 September 2010

Wait – ya mean Ploofay
(didn’t know I could speak French , eh?} 😉 Ain’t Jesus’eszz? – whatever – St. Peter?


marisacat - 9 September 2010

Several tell Time that OFA boss David Plouffe, who ran Obama’s 2008 campaign, is using the cash to rebuild an army for 2012 under the cover of boosting turnout in 2010

Maybe Obby should read about 1980. Party bosses have no problem turning on pretzels.

ts - 9 September 2010

Maybe he’s gonna spend the money building an army of sharks with frickin laser beams on their heads.

catnip - 9 September 2010

I’m still waiting for an update on the insect army.

catnip - 9 September 2010

I found the Dems’ new slogan in that article:

A former [DARPA] director said in 1975: “When we fail, we fail big.”

CSTAR - 9 September 2010

From the aforementioned article. I’m sure this will be a big favorite on this site


WWII: Attach a bomb to a cat and drop it from a dive-bomber on to Nazi ships. The cat, hating water, will “wrangle” itself on to enemy ship’s deck. In tests cats became unconscious in mid-air

6. marisacat - 9 September 2010

hmm The news is saying that 3 FBI agents have just (well that is the word they used) entered the Dove Outreach church…

catnip - 9 September 2010

I like Dove but their body wash isn’t quite as moisturizing as their soap.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

I’ve never used the soap… but once when careening thru the pages for Safeway ordering I ordered one of the body washes, I saw the words, “cream oil” and tossed it in the cart.

But it, whatever scent they add, reeks of “Old lady”. Freaks me out totally! So I used it up, but always followed with a second soaping with something else.


catnip - 9 September 2010

Nothing worse than “Old lady” smell. 🙂

Oh and I hate it when store clerks call me “dear” like I’m 80 fucking years old.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

ugh. I distinctly remember a trip to France, when suddenly I was “madame” and not “mademoiselle”.

I headed for a cafe for a drink. Alcoholic.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

you can still hear what they’re saying?


7. catnip - 9 September 2010

I promised taylormattd a shout out, so here it is:

Fuck you and the little troll patrol mobile you rode in on.


marisacat - 9 September 2010

very funny. I forgot he existed. Is it a he? Probably. In the land of zipperless orange fucks.

8. Revisionist - 9 September 2010

LOL… catnip. I just popped in to give YOU a shout. Just caught you at the the DK. I stopped by there for my weekly giggle and caught your smack down. Why is MBNYC still posting there. Isnt he a banned troll? Really I consider that site humor now like fark.

Its funny seeing them scramble in election season. Because all they are down to is “DONT VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS. THEY ARE SCARY” Too bad they wore that down to the nub a few years ago.

Also getting nearly daily spam from MAMZ now. Not sure if the account was banned but I know I havent used it since 2006. God they are desperate.

Since MAMZ loves polls and number how about his this. Your pledge drives get about 1300 responses. You claim to have 250K users. So your response rate is like .5%!

Maybe they should have focused on electing the Better before the More.

And a special note to Matt. Hey Matt. why dont you use all your education and all that spare time you have lawyering to post diaries about the many gay issues going on instead of wasting your time blogmaiding. You really contribute zilch to the zietgiest.

The Nevada race sums up this cycle for me. Best time to get reid of Reid. Ineffectual, spineless, do-nothing who needs to be put out to pasture VS unqualified nutty lady. No reason for anyone to vote.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

I read tat in NV they have a box to check, None of the Above.

They are figuring it may knock out 4 – 7 % of the vote.


marisacat - 9 September 2010

Speaking of Orange Slurry…

A reader sends in these two screenshots of the Google ads appearing on DailyKos today, either a marketing glitch or a programming one.

Story currently riding at te top of Ben SMith of People Mag… http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

9. marisacat - 9 September 2010

Not enuf popcorn on earth….

AP won’t show burning Qurans

The AP will not distribute images or audio footage of Qurans burning, if the Florida-based Dove World Outreach Center proceeds with the planned burning on Sept. 11, according to a staff memo.

“The concept of this planned event is offensive to many Muslims worldwide. National leaders and spokesmen for other religious denominations have also found the plan repugnant,” wrote AP’s Deputy Managing Editor Tom Kent, who penned the memo.



10. lucid - 9 September 2010
marisacat - 9 September 2010

hi dear…

lucid - 9 September 2010

Hi. Hope you’re well… Fighting off my dreadful ‘whatever it is’ that I get every September likely because of the ragweed…

marisacat - 9 September 2010

I have Benadryl by the bedside… and I do think it is ragweed that is the culprit…

catnip - 9 September 2010

I hope you’re feeling better!

I get hay fever in the spring and fall. I was thinking of grabbing something for it but on top of pain pills I’d probably end up comatose. (Mind you, that would be a cheap mini-vacation.)

marisacat - 9 September 2010

well I am used to plain old Benadryl… I know when I can take two and put water by the bed and just curl up for a few hours…

I have several kinds of eye drops, eye washes, nasal mist, Benadryl…

It helps some….

catnip - 9 September 2010

That’s the thing with allergies like that – so many symptoms to take care of. I tried so many meds for my sinuses and a pharmacist finally told me to just fill a glass with warm water and some salt and to breath in the mist a few times a day. That helps.

11. marisacat - 9 September 2010

Get these men a sugar tit. A line up of sugar tits.

— Federal officials might ask the Florida pastor who plans to burn Qurans on Sept. 11 to cancel his plans, Gibbs said.

“There are discussions inside of the government about the possibility of doing that,” he said, adding that National Security Adviser Jim Jones is involved in those talks, but not President Obama. oh I think he should fly to Gainesville IMMEDIATELY! IS there anything of greater imperative in the nation? — Mcat

— The news media should “cover something besides” the pastor, “a desperate man seeking the attention of the better part of the world,” Gibbs said. He quickly denied that he was blaming the media, but he questioned the usefulness of having a TV camera at the church.

— Discussing the Quran burning, Gibbs mentions the controversy at ground zero in New York City. “You’ve heard the president talk about the mosque, and understand that … the anniversary of 9/11 that we’ll celebrate on Saturday is one that is, although nine years past, still and will always be very raw in people’s memories,” he said.

Is there ANYTHING left about this country? At all?

Politico “44”

catnip - 9 September 2010

Koran burning canceled.

Some 9/11 truther is standing behind nutbar pastor’s press conference with a sign about “controlled demolition”.


And nutbar pastor is saying that if the NYC Islamic center was moved away from ground zero, they would be a “sign from God”. The Ima(n) (as he pronounced it) has agreed to move it according to him.

Terrorist negotiations successful.

catnip - 9 September 2010

No confirmation on moving the Islamic center yet.

Oh what the heck – just bring back the crusades and let’s get it over with!

catnip - 9 September 2010

Welcome to tonite’s epsiode of “Deal or No Deal?” (suitcases optional)

marisacat - 9 September 2010

we negotiate with someone that Germany – and his congregation there – THREW OUT.

Revisionist - 9 September 2010

[quote]that is, although nine years past, still and will always be very raw in people’s memories,” he said.

hogwash. seriously. I am so sick of hearing about 9/11. it was tragic. but not the worse thing that ever happened. and since we have had floods and fires and shit that has done far more damage.

when exactly are we allowed to get over it an move on? I did about 2003. it just reminds me of the 70s and 80s when there would always be some Pearl Harbor bullshit the firts week of december. The only people who cared were in their 70s. It wasnt until the late 90s that it wasnt played up on the news.

And 9 years later after $4 trillion, countless lost lives all we have to show for our over reaction is the erosion of the american way of life.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

oh I HATE 9/11 wiht a passion.

IF I NEVER heard of it again, it would be fine.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

when I left NYC in 2003, actually ON 9/11, I was shocked how maudlin people were about it the further I drove the moving van west. In the city it was a pretty low-key thing, and the city had mostly moved on, but the sentimental rubes out here in the great mediocre middle just hold onto their “outrage” over an attack on a city they all fear and hate.

It baffles me.

12. marisacat - 9 September 2010

How soon to the Second Coming?

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Claiming an Imam Has Agreed to Relocate So-Called ‘Ground Zero Mosque’, Fla. Pastor Cancels Planned ‘Burn a Koran’ Day [5:00 p.m. ET]

For more on this and other breaking news go to ABCNews.com: http://abcnews.go.com?nwltr=bn

catnip - 9 September 2010

lol..Tweety…”the mosque is not moving but pastor Terry Jones is going to New York this Saturday to preside over it not moving, apparently.”

13. Revisionist - 9 September 2010
marisacat - 9 September 2010


catnip - 9 September 2010

Burnt popcorn!

marisacat - 9 September 2010

I think I need 3-D glasses for this movie.

catnip - 9 September 2010

It’s more fun that watching a Bronco chase.

catnip - 9 September 2010

that = than

14. catnip - 9 September 2010
catnip - 9 September 2010

Wolodymyr Starosolsky is a lawyer for the investor in the real estate partnership that controls the site. He says Trump’s offer is “just a cheap attempt to get publicity and get in the limelight.”


ts - 9 September 2010

When has Donald Trump ever done anything for publicity?

marisacat - 9 September 2010

I think they want a good bit more than Trump was offering…

SO NYC RE deal. Just a bigger mess than usual.

15. catnip - 9 September 2010

Ed Schultz is having a coronary – blaming Rahm for Obamalama going on teevee and talking about the Koran burning. Obama the Marionette. Can’t move without Rahm pulling his strings.

What he doesn’t seem to get is that this shit is what Obama lives for – to get involved in stuff that he should keep his nose out of – the “moral” stuff. And Ed thinks Rahm can stop that?

marisacat - 9 September 2010

That was my feeling listening to obster wax looney on koran burning.

he just wants to lecture from some fake, or assumed, religious remove.

Fuck him.

16. catnip - 9 September 2010
marisacat - 9 September 2010

Yes, yes… but we KNOW that is not as bad as burning, threatening to burn, a Koran.

catnip - 9 September 2010


And now, back to pastor Jones. 😉

17. marisacat - 9 September 2010

😆 … 🙄

CNN is staking out the various NYC area airports for Pastor Jones. I say put him on a plane for Germany, maybe they will be smarter about what to do with him.

And, flash: Mosque still not moving.

catnip - 9 September 2010

CNN is staking out the various NYC area airports for Pastor Jones.

Somebody should pick him up on a mental health warrant.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

someone should open the door of the plane and tell him that gawd will catch him.

18. marisacat - 9 September 2010

They had the Sec Def call Jones.

Musta been the biggest day in his life. A lousy cheap ass pastor …

marisacat - 9 September 2010

and the close of the article… Wow .. this is as suspected a big huge Mighta. Coulda. But Will It?

Al-Musri, who appeared at the news conference with Jones, later told a different story.

“What we have is a commitment from the office of the imam [Rauf] for a three-way meeting where myself and the pastor would fly to New York to meet with him to discuss moving that project to an ideal location that’s not controversial,” al-Musri told CNN.

But al-Musri also said any new location would have to meet the same goals as their current location – two blocks from ground zero – in providing a central and easily accessible location for Muslims to gather. “Those are real issues and questions that have to be answered,” he said.

Al-Musri said neither he nor Jones spoke directly to Rauf, but that Musri spoke to Rauf’s wife, Daisy Khan, who has been a sort of unofficial spokesperson for the project.

Al-Musri also said a firm time for a meeting hadn’t been set – and noted he hadn’t yet booked his plane tickets.

This country is just a cartoon. Drenched in religion. And jingoism.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41948_Page2.html#ixzz0z4lBm4mq

marisacat - 9 September 2010

No flies on Pastor Jones, he now says he was “lied” to.

19. brinn - 9 September 2010

Thank whatever powers that be that this is my night to hang out with my 7-year-old!

Carry on, all!

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

have fun!

catnip - 9 September 2010


20. marisacat - 9 September 2010

I guess we can thank CAIR. FWIW.

If I am reading this right, it says they felt this had to be trumpeted because of all the increased discrimination against Muslims.


Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, says his group gets evidence of provocative acts involving the Quran all the time, and has issued a handbook to supporters offering guidance on what it should normally do about it – nothing.

“We get videos every day of somebody who shoots the Quran, burns the Quran,” he said. “We normally don’t do anything about it, because we don’t want to give them more attention than they deserve.”

But given what the group perceives to be increased prejudice against American Muslims, especially as the bitter fight over the Islamic center in lower Manhattan has played out all summer, it made an exception to its policy when it learned of Terry Jones and his Dove World Outreach Center’s plan to burn a copy of the Quran on September 11th.

So on July 19 CAIR sent out a press release announcing its intention to respond to “Burn A Koran Day” by distributing free Qurans. The release included a link to Dove World Outreach Center’s Facebook page for “International Burn a Koran Day.”

And that was how the threats of an obscure Florida pastor entered the international media blood stream.


In case any one feels left out with the burning possibly cancelled or suspended, a Tenn minister is taking up the challenge…

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010
22. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

MSNBC just reported on Maddow that a judge has found DADT unconstitutional.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

fantastic……………. only the courts can save us from this mess. No politician ever will.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

Calif. judge rules ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ unconstitutional

By Associated Press

10:07 p.m., Thursday, September 9, 2010

RIVERSIDE, Calif. | A federal judge in Southern California on Thursday declared the U.S. military’s ban on openly gay service members unconstitutional because it violates the First Amendment rights of gay and lesbians.

U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips granted a request for an injunction halting the government’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy for gays in the military.

Phillips said the policy doesn’t help military readiness and instead has a “direct and deleterious effect” on the armed services.

The lawsuit was the biggest legal test of the law in recent years and came amid promises by President Barack Obama that he will work to repeal the policy.

Government lawyers argued Phillips lacked the authority to issue a nationwide injunction and the issue should be decided by Congress.

The injunction was sought by the Log Cabin Republicans, a 19,000-member group that includes current and former military members.

catnip - 9 September 2010

It’s about bloody time!

23. catnip - 9 September 2010
24. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

Sheriffs in North Carolina want access to state computer records identifying anyone with prescriptions for powerful painkillers and other controlled substances.

At some point, people are going to realize that the war on drugs and the war on terrorism are actually declarations of war on the rights of the American citizen. Can anyone anywhere give me one good reason why some fascist cop in North Carolina needs to know what my doctor prescribed to me? Just one.

And it goes without saying the kind of negative effect this will have on pain management. This is just another attempt to intimidate doctors.

25. marisacat - 9 September 2010

Look! She found based on FIRST AMDMT:

Judge: Military’s ban on gays is unconstitutional

(AP) – 28 minutes ago

RIVERSIDE, Calif. — A federal judge in Southern California on Thursday declared the U.S. military’s ban on openly gay service members unconstitutional because it violates the First Amendment rights of gay and lesbians.

U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips granted a request for an injunction halting the government’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy for gays in the military.

Phillips said the policy doesn’t help military readiness and instead has a “direct and deleterious effect” on the armed services.

The lawsuit was the biggest legal test of the law in recent years and came amid promises by President Barack Obama that he will work to repeal the policy.

Government lawyers argued Phillips lacked the authority to issue a nationwide injunction and the issue should be decided by Congress.

The injunction was sought by the Log Cabin Republicans, a 19,000-member group that includes current and former military members.

Government lawyers argued that Phillips lacked the authority to issue a nationwide injunction and Congress should decide the policy’s fate.

The U.S. House voted in May to repeal the policy, and the Senate is expected to address the issue this summer.

“Don’t ask, don’t tell” prohibits the military from asking about the sexual orientation of service members but requires discharge of those who acknowledge being gay or are discovered engaging in homosexual activity, even in the privacy of their own homes off base.

Log Cabin Republicans said more than 13,500 service members have been fired since 1994.

Attorney Dan Woods, who represents the group, contended in closing arguments of the nonjury trial that the policy violates gay military members’ rights to free speech, due process and open association.

He also argued that the policy damages the military by forcing it to reject talented people as the country struggles to find recruits in the midst of a war.

U.S. Department of Justice attorney Paul G. Freeborne argued that the policy debate is political and the issue should be decided by Congress rather than in court.

Six military officers who were discharged under the policy testified during the trial. A decorated Air Force officer testified that he was let go after his peers snooped through his personal e-mail in Iraq.

Lawyers also submitted remarks by Obama stating “don’t ask, don’t tell” weakens national security.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

we’ll see if the injunction holds up.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

at lest it is movment… some wrenching of the mass of us locked in cement.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 September 2010

always happy for any sign that I live in a civilized country.

catnip - 9 September 2010

U.S. Department of Justice attorney Paul G. Freeborne argued that the policy debate is political and the issue should be decided by Congress rather than in court.

Pure bullshit.

Was school segregation just “political”?

marisacat - 9 September 2010

ugh I am starting ot think that is just what many of the ptb DO think of segregation. As they swiftly work to return us to segregation. With a pretty overlay of multiculturalism and pan nutso religionism, as the fake bandaid.

26. ts - 9 September 2010

This was probably based on some push polling, but thos poll on the economy seems legit enough to me.

•92% say the US is still in recession
•65% fear a ‘double dip’ recession
•57% are fearful about running out of money in the next year
•44% could easily see their family slipping into bankruptcy if things get worse
•42% say they will spend less money than they did over the last 3 months, while just 10% will spend more. 48% report their personal spending will likely stay even
•09% say the US is in a 1930s style economic depression
•72% say Europe’s financial problems likely to hurt US
•42% say that they or their spouse has had wages or salary reduced
•34% say they or their spouse lost their job or has been laid off
•33% have taken on more hours or another job to try and make ends meet
•28% dipped into a planned retirement account like an IRA or 401K because they needed the money
•09% have had their house foreclosed on
•08% had their child delay college (or graduate school) or drop out to save money
•20% expect their personal finances will recover by the end of 2011, 27% say after the end of 2011, 24% say their personal finances won’t ever fully recover

But don’t worry, Obama is gonna come through with cotton candy and ponies!

catnip - 9 September 2010

Terrorist ponies, no doubt.

ts - 9 September 2010

That’s right. They blew up the pony, so its just this stale cotton candy for you.

ts - 9 September 2010
marisacat - 9 September 2010

I’ve been watching it for a couple of hours…. seems a huge gas explosion, it burst up from an open field, shot 100, 150 feet in the air. A wall of fire.

We had a strangely blissful summer, no big wildfires, 1100 acres here, 2000 there… but nothing like what we usually hve… then this very strange thing.

Everyone thought it was a plane, it is in the path from SFO, but no one there saw, actually sw a plane, tho everybody thought they heard one.

The fireball went over an hour til PGE, Cal Fire someone managed to get it out.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

AP is saying the fireball shot 1000 feet in the air.

I was repeating what a caller to CBS News, who was just across from the field when it blew, said, but the early films of the fireball, it was enormous.

There were alos early reports that a gas station was on fire, but it was finally an explosion on a natural gas line across from a gas station…

Homes on fire after explosion reported in Calif.

By TREVOR HUNNICUTT (AP) – 14 minutes ago

SAN BRUNO, Calif. — A massive fire burned homes as it roared through a mostly residential neighborhood in the hills south of San Francisco following a loud explosion Thursday evening that shot a fireball more than 1,000 feet into the air and sent frightened residents fleeing for safety, witnesses said.

The fire is burning in the town of San Bruno a few miles from San Francisco International Airport, prompting speculation it was sparked by a plane crash. Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said the agency has no record of a crash. Spokesmen for local airports also said they knew of no missing planes.

Pacific Gas and Electric, the utility company that serves the San Francisco Bay area, is looking into the possibility of a natural gas explosion but had no additional information, said spokesman J.D. Guidi.

Live footage on KPIX-TV showed at least a dozen homes destroyed, with flames reaching as high as 60 feet in the air as the fire fueled itself on the burning homes. Planes and helicopters flew over the neighborhood dumping water in an effort to stanch the flames.

A person who answered the phone at Seton Medical Center in nearby Daly City but did not want to give her name said the hospital was on a triage alert because of people being brought to the hospital with injuries caused by the fire. She could provide no details about the number of injured people.

Witnesses say a loud explosion was felt just before the flames erupted around 6 p.m.


At 6:14 p.m., Stephanie Mullen, Associated Press news editor for photos based in San Francisco, was attending children’s soccer practice with her two children and husband at Cresmoor High School when she saw the blast.

“First, it was a low deep roar and everybody looked up, and we all knew something big was happening,” she said. “Then there was a huge explosion with a ball of fire that went up behind the high school several thousand feet into the sky.

Several minutes later, Mullen was near the fire scene, about a half-mile away in a middle-class neighborhood of 1960s vintage homes in hills overlooking San Francisco, the bay and the airport. She said she could feel the heat of the fire on her face although she was three or four blocks away from the blaze. It appeared the fireball was big enough to have engulfed at least several homes.

“I could see families in the backyards of the homes next to where the fire was, bundling their children and trying to get them out of the backyards,” she recounted.


Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

NOT to worry! The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force is on the scene!

I am sure they can just spit on a fire that leveled 20 or so homes and another 20 + are burning, that’ll do it!

ts - 9 September 2010

Maybe Obama can give a “passionate” speech and the fire will put itself out.

marisacat - 9 September 2010

he can lull it to sleep.

lucid - 10 September 2010

It was a Ponybomb… Nothing to see here…

catnip - 9 September 2010

I didn’t realize it was that huge when I saw a clip on CNN earlier. Wow.

27. marisacat - 9 September 2010



……………….. 😯 … :mrgreen:

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