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hahahahahaha 10 September 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, Afghanistan War, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Iraq War, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, WAR!.

This entertaining photo, of boys just having fun, rides at the top of a VF article on the recent court ruling on DADT.

Somehow fitting to use at the moment (and on this date! Nine One One!), there was a very good joke in comments at IOZ when all this frantic-ness down in Gainesville broke:  That, surely we all know the approved way to dispose of a “dog-eared” Quran is “via a Hellfire missile”.

Yes, that does seem clear. Petraeus, Gates and Obby:  Keep up the good work!  Pastor Terry Jones is just unclear on how well y’all do your jobs….

We seem to be in one of our most hypocritical-confused PR-lying times.

Though when we get a break from that, ever, is unclear.




1. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

well, at least they have some fun between all the state-sanctioned murder.

marisacat - 10 September 2010

always more wedding parties!

2. marisacat - 10 September 2010

I see in classic avoidance technique the children of Pastor Terry Jones have declared they fear he has “lost his mind”.

WEll when they pack him off, take Daisy and her Imam too.

Hell believers/rousers and war enablers. Just what we need.

Cart them all off!

3. BooHooHooMan - 10 September 2010

Ha! It’s the Dailykos Front Pagers!
Sharing their political insight….
Their coverage of the Wars now, too..

The results of their electoral gains…

Okay, I’m done. LOL.

BooHooHooMan - 10 September 2010

Tho as a vet, I always feel a certain affinity for guys who obviously also had Catholic school Spelling. The lessons in cursive from Father McGumby were very innovative, lemme tall ya. LOL

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

This was a nice break from all the idiocy:

Michael Franti’s “The Sound of Sunshine” in sign language

marisacat - 10 September 2010

He has an event planned somewhere in the Bay Area for tomorrow, calling for a day of peace on 9/11.

Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

there is a link in the post I linked to with details of that event, if anyone nearby wants to check it out.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

link via boing boing: I Am Detained By The Feds For Not Answering Questions

I was detained last night by federal authorities at San Francisco International Airport for refusing to answer questions about why I had travelled outside the United States.

The end result is that, after waiting for about half an hour and refusing to answer further questions, I was released – because U.S. citizens who have produced proof of citizenship and a written customs declaration are not obligated to answer questions.

Land of the free, et cetera.

marisacat - 10 September 2010


because U.S. citizens who have produced proof of citizenship and a written customs declaration are not obligated to answer questions.

That is handy to know. Because the time I was held for almost an hour, I was asked all sorts of questions, why I had bought the air ticket I did on the day I did.

For instance.

I mean, what do you say? Got a good price, made the purchase.

Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

Principal Take-Aways

1. Cops Really Don’t Like It When You Refuse To Answer Their Questions. The passport control officer was aghast when I told her that my visit to China was none of her business. This must not happen often, because several of the officers involved seemed thrown by my refusal to meekly bend to their whim.

2. They’re Keeping Records. A federal, computer-searchable file exists on my refusal to answer questions.

3. This Is About Power, Not Security. The CBP goons want U.S. citizens to answer their questions as a ritualistic bow to their power. Well, CBP has no power over me. I am a law-abiding citizen, and, as such, I am the master, and the federal cops are my servants. They would do well to remember that.

4. U.S. Citizens Have No Obligation To Answer Questions. Ultimately, the cops let me go, because there was nothing they could do. A returning U.S. citizen has an obligation to provide proof of citizenship, and the officer has legitimate reasons to investigate if she suspects the veracity of the citizenship claim. A U.S. citizen returning with goods also has an obligation to complete a written customs declaration. But that’s it. You don’t have to answer questions about where you went, why you went, who you saw, etc.

Of course, if you don’t, you get hassled.

But that’s a small price to pay to remind these thugs that their powers are limited and restricted.

ts - 10 September 2010

I admire his guts – they could still have tazed him for no reason.

6. marisacat - 10 September 2010

La Nan calls for an investigation of the explosion and Jackie Spier says:

“This is an extraordinary community, it’s extremely tight-knit. Generations of families have lived here forever,” Speier said. “We will all come together. We will restore these homes and the lives of these people, and we will see San Bruno thrive again.”

Not to laugh at destruction nor at death, but 😆 the pipe itslef was laid down in 48, before the burst of development. The sub division, which is very pleasant (or was) but representative of the era, was built up over the 50s, 60s and into the 70s.

ts - 10 September 2010

Nan better get ready for other people calling for investigations…

7. catnip - 10 September 2010

Cancel your Sunday plans!

What’s coming up on Sunday Kos ….

* Dante Atkins will express his relief at Obama’s opposition to continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, but will also wonder why it had to come to this.

* Chris Bowers will discuss the “ubiquitous political junkie fallacy,” where political activists and news junkies assume that all Americans, including swing voters and unlikely voters, are political junkies too.

lol…Chris Bowers will burn down a straw man. Got a match?

ts - 10 September 2010

That argument sounds like an MC Escher picture.

catnip - 10 September 2010

I thought kos hired Bowers to do Very Important Work™ or something.

marisacat - 10 September 2010

And Dante Atkins will feed drinks to the straw man and rape him.

IIRC my Demloon bible verses right……………

catnip - 10 September 2010


8. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

Greenwald: The pastor and cheap, selective concern for “blood-spilling”

The media circus surrounding the Koran-burning pastor illustrates this cowardly dynamic even more extremely. Media figures who would never dream of treating with hostility Respected Political Officials who start wars of aggression are competing with one another over who can most flamboyantly express contempt for this inconsequential, powerless joke of a figure on the ground that he risks “spilling blood.” Just watch this 4-minute segment from Morning Joe this morning, one of the most cringe-inducing displays of cheap, cost-free self-righteousness you’ll ever see, as a panel that includes Jon Meacham, Mika Brzezinski, and Dan Senor parade the Pastor in front of everyone — without letting him speak — so they can voice their profound contempt for him, while Meacham urges him, in the name of Jesus, to refrain from burning the Korans so as to avoid spilling blood:

there is a video at the link

Do you think that the establishment-serving, power-worshipping Jon Meacham would ever in a million years use language like that to condemn American officials who have actually spilled enormous amounts of blood? An extensive search this morning revealed no instance where Meacham ever condemned or publicly appealed in the name of Jesus to the architects of the attack on Iraq, which resulted in the blood-spilling of hundreds of thousands of human beings.

Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

When the Jon Meachams and Mika Brzezinskis work up the courage to condemn the people who have done and are continuing to do this for the “blood they have on their hands,” then their purported outrage and beliefs can be viewed as sincere. But they don’t do that and won’t do that. Righteous anger at those who spill blood is reserved only for hated foreigners (Osama bin Laden) and for the marginalized and powerless who haven’t actually spilled any blood (the Koran-burning Pastor and WikiLeaks). That’s why this Pastor circus has received so much media attention: it’s a cheap, petty and easy way for people with enormous amounts of blood on their own hands to show what Good, Caring People they are by pretending that they hate those who cause it to be spilled.

marisacat - 10 September 2010

well Daisy and her Imam are much more the JOn Meacham types.

Resolutely both interfaith gibberish-droolers AND cons.

IMO of course.

And what else in the WH than a gibberdrooler and a con. And so interfaith he is a moving target.


9. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 September 2010

William Gibson in an interview promoting his new book (which I haven’t read yet):

The US military produced the core codes for 20th century streetwear as we’ve known it. Now they find themselves in the position of being unable to do that and so they need to bring in outside talent. That’s what’s happening in the book. I wouldn’t say the military consciously wants to come up with cool combat gear so kids will be more likely to enlist, but the dynamic is there and what I’m describing [in Zero History] is what’s happening to a certain extent. There’s a big overlap between military design and skateboard wear. And there’s a symmetry between designers wanting hot young skaters wearing their equipment and people aspiring to military contracts wanting elite young warriors to wear their equipment. It’s the same mindset really. That’s historically new. We didn’t have that before – it’s a late twentieth century shift.

10. marisacat - 11 September 2010

People Mag is just having bloodthirsty fun, by now:

[B]ut a year after tea party protesters disrupted their town hall meetings — and with control of the House hanging in the balance — many politically vulnerable House Democrats now appear reluctant to telegraph where and when they will appear in open forums.

This dynamic illustrates the clear enthusiasm gap between Republicans and Democrats, with public polls and anecdotal evidence showing the GOP is fired up for the mid-term election and Democratic voters are not.

“Everyone’s nightmare is you have an event and there are more of the other people there than your people,” said the chief of staff to one politically vulnerable House Democrat. …

Read more: Link to People

Shouldn’t there be millions, 13 to be exact, of OFAers to deploy to counter this sort of thing? Surely it is SIMPLE?


ts - 11 September 2010

They’re outnumbered by the unemployed. Or maybe they are the unemployed. OFA doesn’t pay like the real army.

marisacat - 11 September 2010

LOL Even long time mouth piece Eleanor Clift today admitted Obby is a “loner” and not “leading a movement”. Acting surprised, too, somehow or other.

Pretty funny…

11. marisacat - 11 September 2010


–“Meet the Press”: White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod; Rudy Giuliani; roundtable with former Clinton White House Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers, author Reza Aslan, Republican strategist Mike Murphy and Atlantic Media’s Ron Brownstein

–“This Week”: Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers Austan Goolsbee; Park 51 Islamic Center Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf; roundtable on the state of Islam in America with Interfaith Youth Core Founder Eboo Patel, New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good Founder Irshad Manji and Rev. Richard Cizik; roundtable with ABC’s George Will, the Huffington Post’s Arianna Huffington, ABC’s Jonathan Karl and N.Y. Times’ Kate Zernike, author of “Boiling Point, a new book on the tea parties

–“Face the Nation”: House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH); Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) and former 9-11 Commission Co-Chair and former Gov. Tom Kean (R-NJ)

-“Fox News Sunday”: Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers Austan Goolsbee; former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-GA); roundtable with Fox News’ Brit Hume, NPR’s Mara Liasson, the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol and Fortune Magazine’s Nina Easton; “Power Player of the Week”: Washington Redskins Head Coach Mike Shanahan

–CNN’s “State of the Union”: Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and former Bush Homeland Security Adviser Fran Townsend; House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD); former House Majority Leader Rep. Dick Armey (R-TX) and former Senate Majority Leader Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS)

–Univision’s “Al Punto”: Mexican President Felipe Calderón; Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA); William Rodriguez (last remaining 9/11 survivor from the North Tower of the World Trade Center); roundtable with El TIempo’s Ana Maria Jaramillo and independent journalist Alejandro Alvarado

–C-SPAN: “Newsmakers”: (10am ET / 6pm ET Sunday): Treasury Assistant Secretary for Tax Policy Michael Mundaca, questioned by Dow Jones Newswires’ Martin Vaughn and Reuters’ Kim Dixon … “The Communicators” (6:30pm ET Saturday): FTC Consumer Protection Director David Vladeck … “Q&A” (8pm ET & 11pm ET Sunday): Journalist and author Nicholas von Hoffman (“Radical: A Portrait of Saul Alinsky”)

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 11 September 2010
marisacat - 11 September 2010

And I will feel exactly the same if – when – terrorists attack us again. I think they will. Working yourself into a paranoid frenzy in the meantime won’t change anything. And destroying our personal liberties and our way of life means that bin Laden is the one who really gets to say “Mission accomplished!”

I think we are being positioned for some false flag operation, not just 9/11 which was either facilitated or just “allowed” to happen, but something fully home grown.

They need more hoopla and abrasion than Mosquerias and preachers in the stupid outposts of FL to reignite the peeples.

Esp as war fever abates… which of course it should do. Is doing… however people natter on about muslims or Islam or whatever, there is little taste for years more of war… And my guess is Obby knows he will never be able to catch (or what passes for “catching”) Bin laden.

I DO think that attack on the base that killed 7 or 8 CIA officers in the war theatre was part of, the outcome of, a desperate attmept to “catch” bin Laden to help cement poor Ob in office. Aside from whatever the CIA wanted out of it, to corral or kill someone who knows too much, possibly.

Who the hell knows.

diane - 11 September 2010

positioned indeed, been a ton of tweaks (including, of course, the requisite NPR, tweak) in the last week regarding the danger of ‘HOME[LAND] GROWN TERRERISM.

(and of course, no mention of the fact that the populace has been so thoroughly abused by a handful of bloodsuckers in the last 20 years, that it is quite amazing, that human beings are able to put up with so much without engaging in an out and out blood bath)

ts - 11 September 2010

Yeah, I’m leaving to go on a hike now. I use 9/11 as a day to disconnect from all media. Just can’t stand accidentally wandering across even a minute of that crap…

See ya’ll tomorrow.

13. BooHooHooMan - 11 September 2010

MAMZ’s Book Reviews..
The missed the mark, Markos take by Mother Jones’ Kevin Drum is serviceable enough, well, in theory at least, LOL, as Drum drums on about the real meaning of the “Progressive” “movement”..which would “dick” , with a militaristic bent, as in the pic atop thread.

I’d still like to know how Markos got Herb Allen Jr (uber secretive dual) ponying up between 5 and 10 million to refloat his SB Nation VC. Allen and Co, a underwriting firm of extraordinarily small size ( the red flag that tipped off Harry Markopolos as to Madoffs market manipulating scams) that happens to get a piece of not only everything offered on the Street during the last dozen bubbles but the pillaging on TARP deals during the workout too. ….

Ah well Markos is in good company with Allen and …Company.

I remem that Jerome was paid a contract to go work on the the London Mayoral race, for a “Liberal Dem” in the UK..from Scotland Yard. LOL. Londoners didn’t buy it.

14. BooHooHooMan - 11 September 2010

😳 which would BE “dick”…etc. LOL.
Lost a word there in all the Progressive chordee..

15. diane - 11 September 2010

baby booh

loved the MA FLEAS bit ….

it were quite precious and apropos ….

much rather run into an enormous ma honeybee, than …an enormous ma flea, …any day of the weak.

but what can one do in the age of bloodsuckers gone (even more than before) askew, ……. wild and rampant?


love that piccy Marisa (albeit, in that bleak sorta way that so many of us are now familiar and exhausted with) ….if I could light a bonfire to something, it might be camoflauge ‘wear.’ I know I likely spelled that wrong, but it will have to do.

16. catnip - 11 September 2010

Iraq to pay $400 million for Saddam’s mistreatment of Americans

When will the US government be sued for mistreating Iraqis? Or was the war their “settlement”?

CSTAR - 11 September 2010

We’ll also send them a bill for the weapons we used to kill’em.

17. marisacat - 11 September 2010

I don’t know what weather was like elsewhere, but today was a really lovely, perfect, sunny, not too bright, warm not hot, dry but not parched, day.

I peeked at it, from the windows… and the wind had shifted, carrying away the smell of burn (poor San Bruno) that was in the air yesterday…

18. marisacat - 11 September 2010

Don’t make me laugh TOO hard. Michael Moore pushing matching donations for Cordoba House. Or whatever Daisy and her Imam are calling it this week. Initiative. Center. Backdrop.

If I had the money and the inclination, I think of better things than ANY NYC RE deal to donate to.

AND he says if the CenterInitiativeHouse is not built then “this isn’t America anymore”.

Have we ever decided WHAT America is? Or isn’t?

Popcorn! Butter! Popper! Fire them up!

marisacat - 11 September 2010

AND — reading the post again at Tiny Revolution, it is clear Jonathan Schwartz is advocating whatever MM is pushing.

Spare me. Twice over.

Madman in the Marketplace - 11 September 2010

more and more people have lots their fool minds.

marisacat - 11 September 2010

Schwarze’s preceeding post was worse, he dilly dallied with Obby, there’s a RL Ob and a Liberal Imagined Ob…….. but then there is


Who apparently arrives bearing neutron and thermonuclear bombs. As if Obsnot did not.

diane - 11 September 2010

Just heard that the Silicon Valley Leadership group is preparing to let all those San Bruno burn victims throw the ball in Oracle Park (or whatever the fuck it’s named now …The Two Google Boyos Park?) since letting the young women (ballplayers), who put a stop to that ugle Frat Boy Ball Players rape that Carr let go unpunished, throw the ball in a Male’s game, as a HIGH AWARD (unfortunately one of the three young women may have been hiding from Frat Boy Ball Player’s Parent’s revenge in Europe (do I have my apstrophes right?), and unable to participate), went over so successfully ……………

diane - 11 September 2010

..heh, … no worries ….plenty nuturin ‘females’ runnin for office ……………..

can I coin the term Trojan Mares ….?

marisacat - 11 September 2010

Is that the rape from 2 or 3 years ago? The one where 3 young women at the same party found the girl and got her to the hospital?

The only comfort in that horror is that the DA, a woman as it happened, in the county or city (forget which it was) lost a few months ago, based on not pursuing that case… Not aht Jerry did anything either, after a big show of entering the case from Sacto.

diane - 11 September 2010

yeah, that was the one.

Rosen (the female DA’s (Carr) “subordinate,”) ran against her, the only human I voted for in the primary, I hope I don’t end up even regretting that, things are so very fucking awful.

(and along with losing that case, there was a huge scandal re her hubster in crime, a MR LAWMAN hisself)

The Santa Clara County LAW SYSTEM is corrupt as the day is long, ya kinda sniff it as ya approach the car pool lanes, set in the slow, versus, fast lanes, in Santa Clara …..

diane - 11 September 2010

can’t remember the title, or whether it was county of city of San Ho, but a “top” Cop (Master of lower cops), is/was a Hoover Institute Fellow …

yeppers …weze ben so very fucked.

marisacat - 11 September 2010

Are you thinking of McBride? IIRC he was a San Jose police chief, but even if he ended up at Hoover (which he did), he was pretty much old style liberal.

It has been so long since I have read of him or op/ed pieces from him, that I htink he is dead.

diane - 11 September 2010

I don’t remember the name. But I’m associating it with an article I was reading awhile back where a CEO of a powerful, defense connected, publically traded co. wore a kilt and drove a tank (yes that kind of tank) down the street with his ‘beloved’ on his wedding day, so maybe it wasn’t the same cop.

marisacat - 11 September 2010

oh that is the guy over in Portola Valley, with US Government issued permits to own and import tanks and all sorts of military ordnance, materiel and so on.

marisacat - 11 September 2010

Jacques Littlefield. Looks like he died last year. Who knew. Who cared.

marisacat - 11 September 2010
diane - 11 September 2010

..I don’t know honey, Jacques doesn’t sound right… and it would come as no surprise that there are a significant amount of CEOs in ‘Their Big Valley’ who could get away with driving tanks down the street, look at Google/NASA/Moffett, and yachster Elison and his Hurd umbrage making front page of a hardcopy paper he like doesn’t pay money for…………..

diane - 11 September 2010

Just read the wiki page you linked, wasn’t him if I’m correct in assuming that it would have mentioned if he were the CEO of a very powerful Sly Con Valley firm. I do have a company name on my mind, but, since I’m not positive, won’t name it.

diane - 11 September 2010

sorry, should be:

… county, or, city ….


… county of city ….

diane - 11 September 2010

….butter …beans …


19. diane - 11 September 2010

…and we will not let the acts of some small band of murderers who slaughter the innocent and cower in caves distort who we are ……..


Ahh gee, …ain’t ya gonna mention that small band of murderers who “cower” in penthouses and Estates ..?

..what’s that? ….wellllllllllll…….okay, ….ya do have a point there, …..cowering, is ‘beneath’ those masters of the universe ……………

20. Madman in the Marketplace - 11 September 2010
21. catnip - 11 September 2010

I’m all for Michael Moore raising money for the Islamic center – especially if it neuters Hair Trump’s attempt to bribe the owners into moving it.

If I had the money and the inclination, I think of better things than ANY NYC RE deal to donate to.

No doubt, but I applaud the subversiveness anyway.

Who knows what “America” is any more – or, for that matter, what it ever was?

marisacat - 11 September 2010

They’ve already refused Trump…. which was inevitable the pay out offered was too small.

catnip - 11 September 2010

They may have refused but he’s still pushing it. He’s on Larry King’s show on Monday nite.

marisacat - 11 September 2010

oh he’s promising rioting in the streets as well…

There is talk that the purchase price the developer admits to is low, and apparently there is talk of an earlier, attempted offer for the lot (not sure if both lots, the left side is STILL owned by Con Ed, or just the Burlington Coat Factory site) of closer to 15 million that was ignored in the past. Chatter that there may have been cash, of hte under the table sort, in the final deal with al Gamal and the motley names that crop up…

I don’t expect the Mosqueria to ever be built, it seems mostly mist and big talk and cash changing hands…

But a good game being played, which is what many stalled RE deals are.

Best of luck to them all.


22. catnip - 11 September 2010
23. marisacat - 12 September 2010

Getting a whiff of deflation…. 😆

In an interview with MSNBC today, Bloomberg seemed to take a virtually identical position [to Obby flips and flops]–insisting that his defense of the Muslims’ right to build near ground zero was not an endorsement of the specific location.

“I don’t think the project necessarily should continue or not continue. That’s up to the project people. The government shouldn’t be involved. [kinda late! –Mcat]

And those people that don’t want it shouldn’t contribute to it. Those that do, maybe they should contribute to it. This is plain and simple a First Amendment right,” Bloomberg said.

“The government shouldn’t be telling people whether it’s good or bad, whether it’s appropriate or not appropriate. [but honey! You told people they were UNAMERICAN if they did not agree with you! –Mcat]

It’s a First Amendment right and we should act to protect that because if we dont’ protect the right this time then when something that we care about comes up nobody’s going to be there to protect us,” the mayor said.

Taking a small break, kinda, from shilling for Rauf.. seems to me! Shillberg

I cannot think he cares about his poll numbers, but maybe he does.

Who knows.

24. marisacat - 12 September 2010



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