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I don’t think…. 8 October 2010

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems.

Washington, US:   Secretary of state Hillary Clinton confers with Cherie Blair at a US state department event about increasing women’s access to mobile technology     [Jason Reed/Reuters]

I don’t think they’re talking about any “access to mobile technology”.  They might be talking (Oh! I am sure I mean confering)  about women, however.




1. BooHooHooMan - 8 October 2010

Feel the confidence!

OH-09: Marcy Kaptur’s Opponent is a Nazi Re-Enacter
by askew
Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 08:39:16 PM PDT

marisacat - 8 October 2010

That made me burst out laughing.

😆 … 🙄

2. marisacat - 9 October 2010

The reports vary, but it seems Liu Xiaou Bo wife has been removed from their home and is being taken, by the police, to the city where her husband is incarcerated.

One report said her phone was cut off…

BEIJING: Chinese police have forced the wife of Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo to leave Beijing and are believed to have taken her to the northeastern city of Jinzhou, where her husband is imprisoned, reports said on Saturday.

“(The police) are sitting there waiting for me to get my things together,” US-based Radio Free Asia quoted Liu’s wife, Liu Xia, as saying late on Friday.

Liu Xia told the broadcaster that the police said they planned to take her to Jinzhou but she was worried that she could be held under house arrest at another place outside Beijing. …

Read more: Nobel laureate’s wife forced to leave Beijing – The Times of India
Link to Times of India

marisacat - 9 October 2010

Reuter’s link

“Liu’s winning will put more of an international spotlight on the situation in China which has been lacking and that’s good,” Xinna, the wife of imprisoned ethnic Mongolian rights activist Hada, told Reuters from the northwestern city of Hohhot.

“But controls on us are tougher than even a few years ago. Things I could once read on the Internet are no longer accessible,” she added, speaking by telephone.

“The restriction on the flow of information means that some activists I know had never heard of Liu until yesterday. This does not give me much hope going forward,” said Xinna, whose husband is one of China’s longest-serving political prisoners.

The mobile telepone of Liu’s wife, Liu Xia, was turned off on Saturday. She told Reuters on Friday that the police were forcing her out of town to prevent her from talking to reporters, and that she was being taken to see her husband in jail. […]

3. marisacat - 9 October 2010

Very bizaare… there is a very loud late night party, right near me. Next door, in fact… Not a big deal but the music and the singing is all very pro America. That song that has a refrain, God Bless the USA !!!!! …and then they had a spontaneous chorus of shrieking USA!! USA!!! USA!!! for a while.

Then on to Sweet Home Alabama.

I feel I am in some college town in the South.

Except I am not… LOL…

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 October 2010

omg, people still sing that shitty Lee Greenwood song?!?!

marisacat - 9 October 2010

… and these were young people.

I have to call my neighbor and get the low down on what is going on. Can’t tell you how strange it all was for this neighborhood.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 October 2010

that’s depressing.

ms_xeno - 10 October 2010

Does this help ease the pain, just a hair?

BooHooHooMan - 9 October 2010

Hold on, Dear! At least thru the hours upon anthem hours of Skynyrd’s Freebird till we can get reinforcements in! 😆

4. marisacat - 9 October 2010

–NBC’s “Meet the Press”: U.S. Senate candidate debate with State Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias (D-IL) and Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL); roundtable with Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan and TIME’s Joe Klein

–ABC’s “This Week”: U.S. Senate candidate debate with Attorney General Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Linda McMahon (R-CT); former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf; French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde; roundtable with ABC’s George Will, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, ABC News’ Amy Walter and PBS’ Tavis Smiley

–CBS’s “Face the Nation”: White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod; former RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie

–“Fox News Sunday”: House Minority Whip Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) and Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schulz (D-FL); former Bush Senior Adviser Karl Rove and former Howard Dean campaign manager Joe Trippi; roundtable with the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol, Fortune’s Nina Easton, former Bush White House Press Secretary Dana Perino and NPR’s Juan Williams (substitute host: Bret Baier)

–CNN’s “State of the Union”: DCCC Chairman Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD); Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA); former CIA Director General Michael Hayden (Ret.); Republican strategist Whit Ayres and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake

C-SPAN: “Newsmakers”: (10am ET / 6pm ET Sunday): Emily’s List President Stephanie Schriock …. “The Communicators” (6:30pm ET Saturday): Former FCC Chairmen Reed Hundt (1993-1997), Michael Powell (2001-2005) and Kevin Martin (2005-2009), questioned by the Wall Street Journal’s Amy Schatz … “Q&A” (8pm ET & 11pm ET Sunday): Author Ron Chernow (“George Washington: A Life”), part two of two-part series

Univision’s “Al Punto”: Elizabeth Segovia (sister of trapped Chilean miner); former CNN anchor Lou Dobbs; former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and his wife Callista Gingrich (Executive Producer of “Nine Days that Changed the World”); political analyst Arnoldo Torres; roundtable with La Opinion’s Pedro Rojas and BBC Mundo’s Adrian Fernandez

5. marisacat - 9 October 2010

It seems the sludge retaining wall may collapse entirely.

The Age of Terror and Nightmares.

“Because it may happen at any moment, but it’s also possible that it won’t happen …… there’s only one thing we can do — we have to behave as if this could happen any minute,” Orban told reporters in Budapest.

“There’s no technical equipment that could really stop this process and the only thing we can do is prepare ourselves to stop the damage it would cause.”

more by Viktor Orban – 2 hours ago – The Associated Press (130 occurrences)

Google page

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 October 2010

the video from that disaster is horrifying

6. marisacat - 10 October 2010

wham!! $%#@ Pow!! @#%$& slam!! &%#$@@

Meg hits back.

Smelling blood after a Jerry Brown associate used the word “whore” in connection with Meg Whitman’s campaign strategy, Republican sources have provided a 15-year-old video of the Democratic gubernatorial hopeful dismissing mammograms in an old interview.

The trip to the vault comes as Brown’s camp has been on defense after The Los Angeles Times reported on a conversation between him and an associate, inadvertently left on a police union official’s voice mail, in which he discussed Whitman and the unions and suggested she’ll cut a deal over pensions. Another person is heard on the recording saying, “What about calling her a whore?” …

Placing himself to the RIGHT of Pete du Pont. Oh the laughter.

The comment about mammograms came during an episode of “Firing Line” in October 1995, when Brown was a guest on the William F. Buckley Jr. show. He sat alongside feminist and commentator Susan Estrich during a discussion about government regulations that dealt with the death of the Clinton administration health reform proposal.

Estrich discussed the component of the plan that had dealt with mammograms. “Can we get off of mammograms?” Brown interjected. “I mean, first of all, if you read the Lancet Magazine in July, there’s no statistical evidence that mammograms help anyone at any age. “So it’s July 1995, Lancet Magazine. Okay? It’s there. Now I don’t want to argue that case,” he added, as Estrich started to object. “ I just want to throw it out there.”

Former Delaware Gov. Pete du Pont interrupted, “But you ought to have the option — if you think they’re going to help you, if you think they’re going to help you, you ought to have the option of having one.”

Brown replied, “Ten thousand women, three women will be saved for one year.” …

Read more: Link

marisacat - 10 October 2010

Scraping that famous barrel:

Asked for comment, Brown spokesman Sterling Clifford said, “That is indeed what (the Lancet story) says. The debate about the effectiveness of various cancer screenings has been going on for years.”

He added, ‘Fifteen years ago, as a radio host, Jerry participated in discussions about it. He never said, don’t get screened for cancer, he never said the government shouldn’t pay for cancer screening. And while this clip is about mammograms specifically, he also talked about prostate cancer screening at times, so trying to make this a gender issue is a bit silly. Jerry Brown opposes cancer in all cases.”

Asked if he believes in mammography, Clifford said, “He believes in people not getting cancer, has not followed developments in the effectiveness of various specific cancer screenings.”


BooHooHooMan - 10 October 2010

Nuttin’ like Catholic intellectuals.

7. marisacat - 10 October 2010


[T]he problem is that these encounters with voters – designed, among other things, to show off Obama’s empathy for those most affected by the recession – have had mixed success. And some Democrats think it takes away from what should be Obama’s primary task so close to the election: energizing the base.

The day after his speech in Madison, where he had roused the crowd by saying, “I am telling you, Wisconsin, we are bringing about change, and progress is going to come,” Obama had a decidedly more difficult time convincing voters in a suburban Des Moines backyard that things were getting better.

When Mary Stier, mother of a 24-year-old college graduate who campaigned enthusiastically for Obama, told the president her son and his friends were struggling to find work and “losing their hope,” Obama launched into an explanation of the historic scope of the Great Recession. Then he listed his administration’s accomplishments, in health care, reforming student loans and the economy.

When he was finished, there was silence. Scanning the crowd, the president moved on to the next question.

David Greenspon, who owns an advertising business, pressed Obama on his tax policy and walked away, he told POLITICO, feeling like the president was “a little misinformed about the way small business operates.”

And later, in another backyard encounter in Richmond, Scott Turner, a Democrat who voted for Obama in 2008, was less than impressed. “He was doing what they always do at these things — take one question and work it toward one of the talking points — which is fine,” Turner said in an interview.

“That’s what they all do.”

Maybe something with hats and rabbits?

Shooting hoops in the old neighborhood (which one?)?


And this is just hilarious. Someone introduce Paul Begala to Nancy and her OFF THE TABLE edicts.

“If you look at what he’s saying, their focus is not persuasion, not motivating skeptical independents or undecideds,” says Democratic strategist Dan Gerstein. “What they’re doing is going to the base of the party that’s spirited and to try to cajole and somewhat scare them into voting.”

“If it’s successful it’s the difference of losing the House or not.”

And, according to Begala, this realization has come none too soon.

“Democrats are still trying so hard to make voters love them,” he says. “But this isn’t a love election. This is a hate election and they need make voters hate Republicans. And I don’t see enough of that.”

His solution: “Put the other side on trial.”…

🙄 It’s “off the table”, Paul.

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 October 2010

A radical pessimist’s guide to the next 10 years

1) It’s going to get worse

No silver linings and no lemonade. The elevator only goes down. The bright note is that the elevator will, at some point, stop.

2) The future isn’t going to feel futuristic

It’s simply going to feel weird and out-of-control-ish, the way it does now, because too many things are changing too quickly. The reason the future feels odd is because of its unpredictability. If the future didn’t feel weirdly unexpected, then something would be wrong.

3) The future is going to happen no matter what we do. The future will feel even faster than it does now

The next sets of triumphing technologies are going to happen, no matter who invents them or where or how. Not that technology alone dictates the future, but in the end it always leaves its mark. The only unknown factor is the pace at which new technologies will appear. This technological determinism, with its sense of constantly awaiting a new era-changing technology every day, is one of the hallmarks of the next decade.

4)Move to Vancouver, San Diego, Shannon or Liverpool

There’ll be just as much freaky extreme weather in these west-coast cities, but at least the west coasts won’t be broiling hot and cryogenically cold.

5) You’ll spend a lot of your time feeling like a dog leashed to a pole outside the grocery store – separation anxiety will become your permanent state

6) The middle class is over. It’s not coming back

Remember travel agents? Remember how they just kind of vanished one day?

That’s where all the other jobs that once made us middle-class are going – to that same, magical, class-killing, job-sucking wormhole into which travel-agency jobs vanished, never to return. However, this won’t stop people from self-identifying as middle-class, and as the years pass we’ll be entering a replay of the antebellum South, when people defined themselves by the social status of their ancestors three generations back. Enjoy the new monoclass!

catnip - 10 October 2010

Ha! I read that this morning and thought of you. 😉

Madman in the Marketplace - 10 October 2010


great minds despair alike!

9. ms_xeno - 10 October 2010

Just read more foot-stamping on one of them other blogs about how Hillary still should get Teh Crown in 2012 or all the “real” women will hold our breaths until we keel over.

It boggles my mind that so many people can still apparently miss the point so very, very thoroughly.

It’s as if everyone thought that they could reform fucking Wal-Mart by getting rid of a born-offspring of Sam Walton as CEO and replacing him or her with one of the born-offspring’s in-laws, for fuck’s sake.

marisacat - 10 October 2010

oh that comparison is so perfect.

They might wakey wakey and notice the party comes with whomever. As much as these noms are wild dogs (drugged but heading a faction) they are all FROM the party. Sent by the party.

So, they offered us a black man and white woman: Hey, pick either. The party doesn’t really care. But vote! Remember, people died so you could vote.

Madman in the Marketplace - 10 October 2010

and of course, remember to be afraid of the “other” party.

ms_xeno - 10 October 2010

That’s astoundingly ironic, given the amount of mental masturbating that Obama’s cheering squad indulges in on a regular basis.

Way to give a perfectly good pastime the proverbial black eye, Democrats. :p

marisacat - 10 October 2010

Vote for the 5 ft monster instead of the 6 ft monster.


What a scream! And we are all screaming!

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 October 2010

What the hell is wrong with people?

A La Crosse official was ticketed for disorderly conduct after allegedly shoving a 14-year-old girl and assailing her with anti-gay slurs during the city’s Oktoberfest Maple Leaf Parade on Sept. 25.

Mark Schneider attended the parade in his official capacity as Riverfest Commodore, an honorary title bestowed annually on a prominent local citizen. At the start of the parade, Schneider became incensed over an American pride flag carried by the daughter of Rosanne St. Sauver, executive director of the LGBT Resource Center for the Seven Rivers Region.

“The commodore came over and physically grabbed the flag pole in Emily’s hands and attempted to take it from her,” according to a press release from the center. “Our director went over and attempted to intervene and repeatedly asked the commodore to stop, as there were children present. …. He did not stop and said, ‘Look at what you are teaching them.’ During the incident he pushed Emily and remained belligerent throughout the confrontation.”

A police officer was summoned and broke up the altercation. As Schneider was walking away he yelled, “You are a piece of shit. Go to a country where they will hang you,” according to the center’s press release.

Schneider was later ticketed over the incident.

“I am extremely infuriated that Mark Schneider only received a disorderly conduct citation for violating a city ordinance,” St. Sauver said in written statement. “I believe there are sufficient statements and supporting accounts of the incident to support further investigation in to a possible hate crime charge. Not to mention that he did this to a 14-year-old child.”

11. diane - 10 October 2010

Interesting, hadn’t read this previously, in a piece about Ciara Durkin, et al:


So, what really happened to Ciara Durkin?

In July 2004, a soldier who had joined the army as a reservist and worked in the accounts department of Bagram air base was found dead in a shower block. Juan Torres was killed by a single bullet to the head on July 12, the day before his eight-year stint as a reservist was to end.

His father, also Juan, was immediately suspicious. Although his son’s regulation equipment included a .45-calibre handgun, the shot that killed Torres was from a 9mm pistol fired at close range. His son had called him days earlier to say that drug-taking on the base was rife. Torres Snr held his own investigation, interviewing soldiers who had served with his son, and remains convinced that the 25-year-old was murdered.


Rest in Peace Ciara Durkin, Juan Torres, et al……

12. Madman in the Marketplace - 10 October 2010
marisacat - 10 October 2010

The only good thing is that NACA, the non-profit running these, in Sacramento iin your link, in the Southland last week drew 40 thousand. FORTY THOUSAND…. last year they were here in SF…

BUT the good thing is NACA is very critical of Obby. And has no problem saying so. And naming him.

13. marisacat - 10 October 2010

Don’t laugh TOO hard…

Reports out tonight are saying it was Jerry Brown’s wife who used the word “whore” on the tape that was released by the LAPD POA. (No confirmation in it, however)


14. catnip - 10 October 2010

Paladino Attacks Gays in Brooklyn Speech

The Republican candidate for governor, Carl P. Paladino, told a gathering in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Sunday that children should not be “brainwashed” into thinking that homosexuality was acceptable, and criticized his opponent, Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, for marching in a gay pride parade earlier this year.

Addressing Orthodox Jewish leaders, Mr. Paladino described his opposition to same-sex marriage.

“I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family, and I don’t want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t,” he said, reading from a prepared address, according to a video of the event.

And then, to applause at Congregation Shaarei Chaim, he said: “I didn’t march in the gay parade this year — the gay pride parade this year. My opponent did, and that’s not the example we should be showing our children.” Newsday.com reported that Mr. Paladino’s prepared text had included the sentence: “There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual.” But Mr. Paladino omitted the sentence in his speech.

And this odd bit at the end of the article:

The back-and-forth between the two campaigns took a strange turn late on Sunday, when Mr. Caputo suggested that, on Aug. 20, a Cuomo staff member had referred to two gay male aides to Mr. Paladino as “girls.” The aides were accompanying a Paladino volunteer dressed in a duck costume, and blowing duck calls, to call attention to what the Paladino campaign said was Mr. Cuomo’s habit of ducking issues.

According to Mr. Caputo, the aides were approached by the Cuomo staff member and told: “If you girls don’t get out of here I’m going to shove those duck calls down your throats.”

Mr. Caputo said the encounter was “likely a hate crime since the Cuomo staffer clearly referenced their sexuality in his threat.” The Cuomo campaign did not respond late Sunday.

marisacat - 10 October 2010

that last is so vry funny… Just boys girls ducks and politicians having fun. And the whores of course.

15. catnip - 11 October 2010

Gideon Levy: Welcome to a new theocracy –
The Jewish Republic of Israel

Netanyahu is delusional:

“Israel is the Jewish homeland and is also democratic to all its citizens – no other country ensures the rights of its minority population like we do,” Netanyahu said.

marisacat - 11 October 2010

wel… but… it appears to have polled well with secular Jews, new immigrants even those who came for a range of reasons (esp Russians apparently) AND it polls well wtih young Israelis.

Get with the Plan catnipp!!

16. catnip - 11 October 2010
marisacat - 11 October 2010

I think people are laughing at Axelrod’s FTN appearacne…. LOL

ts - 11 October 2010

The reality is that GOP gains will bring Democrat capitulation. They will capitulate on everything and then blame it on GOP intransigence. It’s the only thing they have that sells. They obviously can’t sell their performance (snicker). They can only sell stuff they wish they had (like a pair).

marisacat - 11 October 2010

I don’t think the screeching over the Chamber of Commerce is selling. At all or well. Sure, with intense partisans, m a y b e…. but other than that.

And I see they have Rove and Gillespie out against Obby. Who then sends Biden. While Obby works the black crowds.

lacking a pair…. [snicker] they do what they can.

ts - 11 October 2010

I left “a pair” gender neutral – either would be an improvement!

marisacat - 11 October 2010

There was a comment I read at Dkos, right after the Big Kerry Concession… oh I laughed so hard. The comment said his balls were back wehre they belonged. He had handed them back to Teresa, who stored them, once again, in her bedside drawer.


17. catnip - 11 October 2010

UK aid worker may have been killed by rescuers’ grenade

British aid worker Linda Norgrove may have been accidentally killed by US forces during a rescue mission in Afghanistan, David Cameron has said.

International forces there originally said the 36-year-old died on Friday when one of her captors detonated a suicide vest.

But the prime minister said new details had come to light suggesting her death may have resulted from a US grenade.


The BBC’s diplomatic correspondent Nicholas Witchell in Kabul said British officials there were “dumbfounded”.

He added: “It raises questions about the manner of the assault; it raises questions about the way in which the American media operation has disseminated this suggestion that she died at the hands of her captors quite unequivocally for 48 hours.”

Why should it? They report what they’re spoon fed and the pentagon’s default position is to lie. No big mystery there.

marisacat - 11 October 2010

“It raises questions about the manner of the assault;

No shit. I bet the Americans think, hell either way she was blown up, why sweat the details!

18. marisacat - 11 October 2010

hmm. Halperin lets loose with what he really thinks.

MARK HALPERIN’s “One Nation” column on TIME.com, “Why Obama Is in the Jaws of Political Death”:

“Barack Obama is being politically crushed in a vise. From above, by elite opinion about his competence. From below, by mass anger and anxiety over unemployment. And it is too late for him to do anything about this predicament until after November’s elections.

With the exception of core Obama Administration loyalists, most politically engaged elites have reached the same conclusions: the White House is in over its head, isolated, insular, arrogant and clueless about how to get along with or persuade members of Congress, the media, the business community or working-class voters. … The politically good news for Obama is that no matter what the outcome of the midterm elections, everything changes in January. … But before then, Republicans are almost certainly going to demonstrate that you can beat something with nothing, especially when Americans seem to think that the Obama Administration hasn’t much to offer either, except more of the same that isn’t working.”

http://bit.ly/9BOwh0 (via the Mike Allen email)

ts - 11 October 2010

Everything changes in January? Evidence, Mark, please!

marisacat - 11 October 2010

yeah I don’t know what he means by that, frankly.

ts - 11 October 2010

I guess he means “Obama-esque” change. Which means you say there will be change and there is actually no change.

19. marisacat - 11 October 2010

So not surprising…

–Center for Responsive Politics — Foreign-connected PACs:

Total: $12,204,154

— To Dems: $6,517,903

— To Repubs: $5,581,701

20. marisacat - 11 October 2010



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