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Bomb bomb bomb 14 October 2010

Posted by marisacat in 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Israel/AIPAC, Pakistan, WAR!.

Men drive their overloaded donkey cart along a road in Islamabad, Pakistan

Men drive their overloaded donkey cart along a road in Islamabad, Pakistan    Picture: AP


And how is this better, cleaner, more ethical, less bloody than McCain’s exclamation of Bomb bomb bomb Iran?

So fucking tired of it…… and the parties.  And the pols.  And the mil. The sickening support for the military and the wars… And Ob, Snob, Knob.  And Hillary.

It’s never going to end…




1. marisacat - 14 October 2010

catnip comment from the end of the last thread:

POLITICO Breaking News

The Obama administration has asked for an emergency stay of a judge’s order banning worldwide enforcement of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” law banning gays in the military. The Justice Department vows to appeal the ruling, and argues that President Barack Obama favors an ‘orderly’ legislative repeal of the 1993 law.

‘orderly’ = damn those activist judges!

Heckuva job, Obama.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

I just heard his commentary on MTV on this.

I suggest we get a wood carving depiction of generic “Pretzel”.. Just as personable.

2. marisacat - 14 October 2010

This too from catnip:

Govt. Appeals DADT Injunction

Madman in the Marketplace - 14 October 2010

that didn’t take long.


3. marisacat - 14 October 2010

Onward. Whatever causes them pain.

A federal judge in Florida on Thursday said he will allow some of the lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the health care law to proceed

— and criticized Democrats for making an “Alice in Wonderland” argument to defend the law.

U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson allowed two major counts to proceed: the states’ challenge to the controversial requirement that nearly all Americans buy insurance and a required expansion of the Medicaid program.

In his ruling, Vinson criticized Democrats for seeking to have it both ways when it comes to defending the mandate to buy insurance. During the legislative debate, Republicans chastised the proposal as a new tax on the middle class. Obama defended the payment as a penalty and not a tax, but the Justice Department has argued that legally, it’s a tax.

“Congress should not be permitted to secure and cast politically difficult votes on controversial legislation by deliberately calling something one thing, after which the defenders of that legislation take an “Alice-in-Wonderland” tack and argue in court that Congress really meant something else entirely, thereby circumventing the safeguard that exists to keep their broad power in check,” he wrote.

Vinson ruled that it’s a penalty, not a tax, and must be defended under the Commerce Clause and not Congress’s taxing authority. ….

Read more: Link to People Mag

brinn - 14 October 2010

The mandate is the most insidious part of the whole health care legislation debacle as far as I’m concerned, and I am fine with them talking themselves to death about it in the courts for years to come. They addressed all of the wrong problems with that stupid bill and only succeeded in fucking everyone over…except of course, the insurance companies and big pharma (despite all of their whining to the contrary…)

marisacat - 14 October 2010

The mandate is deadly, as is running this all thru the IRS sieve.


diane - 14 October 2010

the mandate is deadly

yup, a deadly mandate from the deadly owner class.

I’m always so charmed when I read the equally deadly pious, self obsessed, snake spittle about personal responsibility from our youthful, wanna be, up and coming “professional” class snake spitters ….their disgusting umbrage is an almost tangible presence ….

marisacat - 14 October 2010

well there is a very real, very legal thing in this country call FIDUCIARY responsibility that has been utterly obviated.

Forcibly rendered void. Non operational.

Over with.

All the rest is diversion.

Madman in the Marketplace - 14 October 2010

absolutely right …

4. diane - 14 October 2010

Third World Austerity is End Game of 2010 Budget Deal – Shock Therapy for California?

October 14th, 2010

Arnold Schwarzenegger’s decision to slash an additional $1 billion from social programs like child care and CalWORKS after a record-long budget stalemate of 100 days is another example of the fiscal austerity measures that are turning California into a Third World country.


A recent article by the San Francisco Chronicle’s Washington correspondent Carolyn Lochhead found that Sacramento could produce an annual budget surplus by simply closing loopholes in California’s tax code.

Instead, the Democratic majority has been capitulating [I would have used the words: agreeing with – diane] to Republican demands to reduce taxes for multinational corporations and big business in exchange for obtaining political agreement on budgets that are transforming California into a Third World country.

As part of the 2010 budget deal, $200 million worth of subsidies were granted to cable TV companies and the timber industry, while corporations evading their income tax obligations were rewarded with reduced penalties.

In 2009, the California Budget Project (CBP) reported that Democratic leaders agreed to permanently reduce the income taxes of multinational corporations operating in California, a move that is costing taxpayers almost $3 billion in revenues over the next five years.


this has been going on for 30 years.



marisacat - 14 October 2010

You know I had problems with that piece. Probably the AFSME connection. I am all for unions, ones that actually owrk for the membership, the rank and file…. but there is a battle shaping up in this state between the top salaries and perks and practices protected by the public services union workers – and the state… and it is going to be UGLEE.

And SEIU and AFSME are not going to be doing the right thing, anymore than any incoming governor will…

But then I am in the FUCK THEM ALL mood.

diane - 14 October 2010

agree about no one at the table wanting to do the right thing, but I think the man is generally dead on about the overall Corporate Taxes issue, and the total lack of regard for the populace.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

The corporate taxes is a given. Not just in California either.

But then oer and over I hear love for Meg, based on her being a CORPORATIST. Brilliance even is ascribed to her. Just the flip side of the slavish Democrats for Jerry.

On and on it goes.

diane - 14 October 2010

Won’t be voting for either of them; may vote for Laura Wells after the Thug and Rat Party allowed her to be charged by the police at a debate she had every constitutional right to engage in because they’ve rigged the fucking election system.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

If you ever read the 1988 agreement between the national parties, when they kicked the League of Women Voters out of the national debate management, sponsorsip, whatever it was called (among other things)… it was all over then.

forget its formal title, but the agreement is online. Rather like reading the PNAC papers. Spells it all out.


diane - 14 October 2010

Never read it hon. I’m reminded of Joan Didion’s Political Fictions, who, if I recollect correctly, made mention of serious third, fourth et al, party obstruction; though I don’t recollect that she referred specifically to that 1988 agreement.

This truly resonated for me, from her 1st ‘chapter:’

Insider Baseball
October 27,1988

It occurred to me during the summer of 1988, in California and Atlanta and New Orleans, in the course of watching first the California primary and then the Democratic and Republican national conventions, that it had not been by accident that the people with whom I had preferred to spend time in high school… ….… were never destined to be …communicants in what we have come to call, when we want to indicate the traditional ways in which power is exchanged and the status quo maintained in the United States, “the process.”


5. diane - 14 October 2010

9 Million Stolen Homes …

October 14th 1010

But the real question is, why is nobody mentioning the over 9 million homes that have been foreclosed on already, or that have been threatened with foreclosure, in this longest and deepest recession since the 1930s.


Revisionist - 14 October 2010

Why is no one in jail? I mean from the last 10 years… Scooter fucking Libby doesnt count. No one from the Bush Admin. No one from Blackwater. KBR or Halliburton. None of the bankers or stock traders. No regulators or lobbyists.

I am just seeing that more info about the mortgages is coming out.

The Obama DoJ really hasnt gone after anyone. And truth be told the congress made just about everything all these people have done legal.

I mean you really need to go after people. To be a truly progressive time you have to prosecute. Bust trusts and all that.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

They won’t be prosecuting… these are guys on the take. Not prosecutors.

diane - 14 October 2010

Would be wonderful if we could hold massive citizen’s arrests …not holding out much hope though.

While I really believe humans have a profound capacity for empathy when push comes to shove, the masses have purposefully been made into transient wanderers, and set upon one another like rabid dogs,……….too filled with fear, to give another little peep the benefit of a doubt.

And then, there are those ‘little peeps,’ every bit as deadly as the big peeps…


6. catnip - 14 October 2010

The Reid v Angle debate is on C-SPAN tonite.

Harry and His Bucket Full of Dinosaurs – it’s not just a kids’ show anymore.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

Rumble in the Desert….


Gaffe Nation. Both of them……….

I just read all she has to do is not look dangerous, look like she “belongs” in the senate… while he has to not be a doddering septuagenarian.

GOOD LUCK to the uh… um… gladiators.

catnip - 14 October 2010

Looks like it’s Harry and His Bucket Full of Pointy Pens tonite.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

What!?, no swords? No gladiator raiment? No regalia?

But isn’t this scheduled for the Coliseum?

Surely it is.

Maybe I lost my Las Vegas Dem party handbook.

catnip - 14 October 2010

They could have held it in a foreclosed home. Lots of those in Nevada. 😉

catnip - 14 October 2010

Angle: “How did you get so rich on a senator’s salary?”


marisacat - 14 October 2010

Oh I was a damn dumb SOB – a group of really nice business men in Searchlight thought I showed promise and they sent me to Georgetown. Imagine that, all the way to DC!, I felt so adult…… I had a part time job, I was a cop on the Hill, while I went to college and then law school.

Been on the take all of his life… and 4 lobbyist sons… one of whom has a dying campaign (or did, I did not follow it) for NV Governor.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

oh too perfect.

7. marisacat - 14 October 2010

Everything is so peachy.

[P]ape said there has been a dramatic spike in suicide bombings in Afghanistan since U.S. forces began to expand their presence to the south and east of the country in 2006.

While there were a total of 12 suicide attacks from 2001 to 2005 in Afghanistan when the U.S. had a relatively limited troop presence of a few thousand troops mostly in Kabul, since 2006 there have been more than 450 suicide attacks in Afghanistan — and they are growing more lethal, Pape said.

Deaths due to suicide attacks in Afghanistan have gone up by a third in the year since President Barack Obama added 30,000 more U.S. troops. “It is not making it any better,” Pape said.

Pape believes his findings have important implications even for countries where the U.S. does not have a significant direct military presence but is perceived by the population to be indirectly occupying. [and there are so many of those countries! — Mcat]

For instance, across the border from Afghanistan, suicide terrorism exploded in Pakistan in 2006 as the U.S. put pressure on then-Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf “to divert 100,000 Pakistani army troops from their [perceived] main threat [India] to western Pakistan,” Pape said. ….

8. catnip - 14 October 2010

Whitney is ‘Whitey’ on some ballots

SPRINGFIELD — The last name of Green Party gubernatorial candidate Rich Whitney is misspelled as “Whitey” on electronic-voting machines in nearly two dozen wards — about half in predominantly African-American areas — and election officials said Wednesday the problem cannot be corrected by Election Day.

Your elections are too much fun!

The snafu, however, has Whitney contemplating legal action to force a fix.

“I don’t want to be identified as ‘Whitey.’ If this is happening in primarily African-American wards, that’s an even bigger concern,” Whitney told the Chicago Sun-Times. “I don’t know if this is machine politics at play or why this happened.”

marisacat - 14 October 2010

I’d blame the Democrats on that one……. Just a stray thought.

Madman in the Marketplace - 14 October 2010

the donks love to ratfuck Greens.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

The cops and fire (UNIONS) over in Richmond California (that big Chevron plant) have released the private medical records of the current Green mayor. Who of course is up for re-election.

Oh that would be the Democrats.

No question.

9. marisacat - 14 October 2010

Oh this gave me a huge laugh.

Arnold no less.

[B]ut Thursday, @Schwarzenegger came to life, taking shots at both of the candidates vying for his job.

First, the governor responded to a question about Whitman posed by one of his followers.

“What do you think about eMeg selling her vote to the police union?” Schwarzenegger was asked, in reference to Witman, the former eBay CEO, trying to cut a deal with the state’s police unions to keep them from endorsing Brown.

“It’s appalling when anyone sells out,” the governor responded.

Then, Schwarzenegger answered a follower looking for his response to an unnamed Brown staffer having suggested that the campaign call Whitman a “whore.”

“That word is unacceptable,” the governor said.

The Gropenator, as some call him.

Read more: Link

diane - 14 October 2010

“That word is unacceptable,” the governor said.

jeesh, that is too fucking priceless from the:





cryptogram, on California Government stationary, Groper, Girley Man.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

oh yeah… I forgot about that one…

He’s been such a peach. Peach and a half, even! WIht full collusion from the Democrats. Full.

diane - 14 October 2010

they like him ….they really, really like him …..

diane - 14 October 2010

and that Girly Man comment he made, was more misogynist than anything I’d heard in quite the time (figures so many in Sly Con Valley, including some disgusting “women,” loved it) ….

marisacat - 14 October 2010

In his triumphal motorcade from LA to Sacramento, where he’d stop and hold rallies… at one he called for the LAT reporter present to be beaten up.

Payback I guess for the play the Times made against him…

Heard it myself. Thanks to Cspan.

diane - 14 October 2010

I so despise that fucker, avowed Nazi Lover; that, in and of itself, in a sane state, should have absolutely precluded him from “office,” …. but no, not in the Land of Golden Showers, Cali, where the Nazi dresses in pink leather tights and urinates on the populace.

10. Madman in the Marketplace - 14 October 2010

speaking of Greens, Green Party Candidate Excluded from California Governor’s Debate

AMY GOODMAN: While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman debated Tuesday night at Dominican University in San Rafael, the Green Party candidate for governor was being arrested outside the hall. Police charged Laura Wells with trespassing after she tried to get into the debate that she was not allowed to participate in. In 2002, when Wells ran for state comptroller, she received more than 400,000 votes. Part of her platform this year is the establishment of a state-run bank.

Well, Laura Wells joins us here in San Francisco.

Laura, welcome to Democracy Now! So, what happened?

LAURA WELLS: Well, I was—someone who thought that democracy was important in this state had tickets and thought that I should be in the room, gave me those tickets, and—a friend and I. And we were on the steps outside the room of the governor’s debate, to which I had an invitation letter, actually, as a candidate who had won the primary for the Green Party. And suddenly—

AMY GOODMAN: Have you been able to participate in any debate?


AMY GOODMAN: What are the rules?

LAURA WELLS: The rules are, as the—the letter said, “Congratulations on your win. The debates will be happening. Every candidate who gets a ten percent result will be included.” And they don’t—in the surveys, LA Times, PPIC, the Public Policy Institute of California, or the field poll. And they don’t tell you what the question is. Now, if the question were, “Do you want a debate with just the Democrats and the Republicans?” which I’m beginning to call the Titanic parties, but the answer would be a resounding, “No, we don’t want that kind of debate here in California.” But they don’t tell you the question. A couple of friends of mine did tell me the question, because they were surveyed. The question was, “Who do you prefer? Meg Whitman or Jerry Brown?” They don’t even say “other.” And then, when they report the results, it’s something like “Meg Whitman, 41; Jerry Brown, 41; 18 percent undecided.” Not even “other.” And so, add that to the lack of coverage, which I would forego $140 million if I had the no-cost media coverage and put out our Green Party values, which the Green values are California values.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

They hauled her off pretty roughly…. from what I saw… one local channel did cover it… but I don’t think it was covered widely…

Madman in the Marketplace - 14 October 2010

what a joke this country is …

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 14 October 2010

Obama Seeks Emergency Stay on DADT Ruling

I know it’s easy for us fags to mock Obama’s “fierce advocate” line, but now that it’s clear he is indeed a fierce advocate—for the other side, whenever it’s his Department of Justice playing ball—hell, mockery is fair game.

Madman in the Marketplace - 14 October 2010

one of the comments, by Clayton:

My father-in-law, pro-gay himself, holds tea party values in most other areas. Before the 2008 election, my husband and I expalined to him that we were voting for Obama, in part, because of Obama’s pro-gay positions. “Son,” my father-in-law said, “Obama ain’t gonna do nothin’ for you.”

He was right.

marisacat - 14 October 2010

They gotta stop voting Democratic. As should women, at least those who care at all about rights and access.

I saw Babs was pushing “the abortion card” (abortion is ON THE LINE! En Garde! Sabres drawn! Attack!) down in Hollywood, with a line up of actresses to miou and moo…. Alfre Woodward for one, Brennamen for another…. I forget the others.

I am s fucking tired of the various and sundry I could die.

12. marisacat - 14 October 2010



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