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Shoot 8 January 2011

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, Culture of Death, DC Politics, Democrats, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, Total fucking lunatics.

att Burrard-Lucas lays of the ground taking pictures of meerkats as one meerkat hops onto his head for a better view, in the Kalahari Desert in Botswana

Matt Burrard-Lucas lies on the ground taking pictures of meerkats when one of the meerkats hops onto his head for a better view, in the Kalahari Desert in Botswana


Poor Giffords, not only shot point blank… one report called it “shot thru and thru”, but first alive, then dead, then alive.

I managed to remember what the news mess made me think of… the day Major Hassan popped off on the mil base.  So many stories in just the first two, three, four hours.  First one then two then three shooters… this happened, that happened.

I had Ratatouille from Netflix and was reading the reviews at N…. it’s the story of a rat that ends up in Paris cooking… but an early scene is of an elderly French farm woman literally shooting up her house tryng to “get the rats”. 

A reviewer said, No Child Should Be Allowed To See That!!!

And I thought, do you have any clue what country you are living in?

Land of the shooters, hipsters and the shoot from the hip crowd.


Just for a change of pace I have Dexter Season 4… oh my, Lithgow IS an horrific killer.  Yum.  Off to the races…



1. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

Nothing like turning on CNN and seeing the station ID of their local AZ affiliate …


… a local editorial cartoonist that somehow made it onto CNN earlier when this first started was ranting about the violent climate from the right and how the state had turned into a home for gun FETISHIST … the CNN anchor wrapped up pretty quick after that.

Speaking of killing and fetishist … Lithgow is amazingly creepy in that season.

marisacat - 8 January 2011

oh yeah… they opened with Lithgow. What a grisly killing.

Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

he’s really amazing in that part throughout the season …

marisacat - 8 January 2011

I am really looking forwrd to this season….

2. marisacat - 8 January 2011

hmm I glanced over to the side column and I see investigative reporter Wayne Barrett has been laid off from the VV and another reporter quit in solidarity.

Wayne Barrett broke or more deeply reported on lots of political stories…

Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

that paper had finally started doing some good work again lately … that sucks.

3. bayprairie - 8 January 2011

currency concerns in all the posts, on and on, by the Schizophrenic shooter.

goldline anyone?

in mexico the choice comes down to silver and lead.

silver and gold?

white man’s burden

marisacat - 8 January 2011

hi bay….


Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

hey bay!

bayprairie - 8 January 2011

hi dear marisa how are you? 😉

marisacat - 8 January 2011

Doing well…

how are you… ?

bayprairie - 8 January 2011

doing well ;)))))

bayprairie - 8 January 2011

hi Mr M!!! how are you?

Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

I’m peachy, thanks!


4. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011
catnip - 8 January 2011

Gee. Ya think?

BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

A Mecca for Bigotry?
Priceless. On so many levels.
which will be mucked down and elevated.
Not to get all machine pistol literal.

But No, not a Mecca. As the higher calibre’d bigots in this country, preoccupied with their Helter Skeltered Haj East..No, they rarely move West of the Potomac, Hudson, or Charles. Not before ski season, and certainly not in Tucson for any time when the links aren’t up to par.

Of course, bein a Sharif and all,
I suppose he is in a position to speak.
And elevated, just like the commentary of his AZ sharifial? colleague : Sherriff Joe.
Most f us on the lamb rack, like our Sharifs to ‘splain it all.

No, metaphorical Mecca has nothing to do with this particularly American bloodbath, even less so than your average Haji or cross border migrant…seeking…seeking…

5. bayprairie - 8 January 2011

:::rolling my eyes::::

silver OR lead

soon to be the choice north of the border as well 😉

6. bayprairie - 8 January 2011

i always come here when i mourn for what could have been (i.e., my country).

was there ever any hope tho?


7. ms_xeno - 8 January 2011

Evening all.

Sorry I couldn’t make it over before the bullets started flying some more, but happy ’11 anyhow.

It’s been crazy IRL lately, but maybe I’ll jump on the recipe wagon and post something soon.


Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

hey ms_x!

8. catnip - 8 January 2011

Good to see both of you, bay and ms_x!

bayprairie - 8 January 2011


ms_xeno - 8 January 2011

Babe! 8)

Nice to not be forgotten.

Here’s a lovely link for all Teh TRUE Believers. With apologies if it’s already been posted at some point. My memory isn’t what it used to be.

(Or maybe it was never worth a damn but I’ve forgotten that.) 👿

Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

those are great!

ms_xeno - 8 January 2011

Yeah, and as post Xmas gifts go, at least it was cheap. :p

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

Sully had a running blog up as the story developed. These were about halfway down:

3.31 pm A reader writes:

I am standing in the aisle at Costco when I found out my Congresswomen, Gabrielle Giffords, has been shot dead up on the north side.

While I’m scrambling with my phone, two couples in front of me are talking about it and suddenly I hear one of the women say, “Well, that’s to be expected when you’re so liberal.”

And the other woman says, “Ohh, so we get to appoint a Republican?”

I did not trust myself to speak. I’m a Soldier. Please remind me what country I am fighting for? At least seven people are dead. She happens to be the only member of Congress married to an active duty military — he’s a Navy officer serving as an astronaut.

3.28 pm Palin responds:

“My sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today’s tragic shooting in Arizona. On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice.”

3.25 pm. And so the politics of this just exploded:

Her father Spencer Giffords, 75, was rushing to the hospital when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies. “Yeah,” he told The New York Post. “The whole tea party.”

marisacat - 8 January 2011

To be honst I am just so disgusted with everyone.

AND local Dems (La Nana, Garamendi, Jackie Spiers who catapulted to office off Jim Jones and Guyana, ENOUGH ALREADY!) are already spinning it to enhance themselves.

Maybe if I did nto see the fucking loousy shitty dull Tea Party as a bi partisan puffery of monstering, I’d be more benign about all the bi cameral bullshite.

Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

I saw Sharpton popping up (of course) to call for everyone to get together and pray …

marisacat - 8 January 2011

I read that Obama prayed on TV. I just fled from the headline alone.

All such fucking bullshite.

10. bayprairie - 8 January 2011

when he’s finally medicated…hes going to be so full of remorse

too bad we dont have adequate healthcare.

hell too bad we don’t have any healthcare

marisacat - 8 January 2011

that total lack of mental health care, little to no effective health care is at the bottom of so much….

Be interesting to see what sort of family emerges…

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011
12. Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

Eugene Robinson is careful to remind everyone that the left is violent too, then talks about Ayers and the Black Panthers. For a minute I was waiting for him to look into the camera with tears in his eyes and wail plaintively “can’t we all just get along?”

ms_xeno - 8 January 2011

I’ve said often enough that if the U.S. Greens could only stir themselves to start packing heat at Town Hall meetings and if they could only fling around more racist rhetoric, they might get the “liberal” media and the Big Box Blogs to finally give a flying fuck about them.

👿 👿

bayprairie - 8 January 2011

what Eugene will never be


13. BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

The Guy’s got a lot of weird books

Wolf Blitzer, CNN, January O8, 2011

I see NN and Fox have committed to full coverage.

We Don’t Know!!
WE Don’t Know, Either!!!
BUT we have plenty of loop footage of law enforcement who don’t know or won’t say!
We do too!
And Clint Van Zandt!

This shit is more predictable than the Old Latin Mass.
As long as your genuflecting half the time you should be okay.

Meanwhile, Liberal shnauzer news network , cough,
has resumed its regular programming –
…The prison industry paean they run every night.

BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

Another hack on CNN

There is nothing to suggest he isn’t anything other than a garden variety mass murderer.

The typical American mass murderer has given no thought to an escape…

And isn’t that last part the Exit Plan truth?

marisacat - 8 January 2011

isn’t it dreary?

BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

It’s not lookin good.
Tho I’m sure by the end of the State of the Union, there will be broad bipartisan agreement it ain’t so bad™.

Because the soul searching shit always flows downhill, it’s our assigned job, not our Reps.
Inquiring into the State and Sate of the State…not so much.

Yep, cue Congressional and Executive catharsis. all the way thru the SoU.

Latest speculation they’re saying the kid was a reject from the recruiting station.
Apparently they saved him a trip.

diane - 9 January 2011

Ahh well, the fuckers would state that,…. I’ve deliberately stayed away from the nooz on “the latest shooting” (and am truly surprised, and actually made hopeful for humans capacity to refrain from bloodshed, at the fact there haven’t been more after all of the abuse on the populace), I’m afraid I might just totally lose it, .. listening to the ghoul mouths on “the tube[worm].”

…they’re saying the kid was a reject from the recruiting station….

unlike all the prison inmates (many, I’m positive, in prison for brutally battering their spouses to near death), given waivers to ‘serve’ in Iraq and Afghanistan….oh, and of course: they make EXCELLENT SOLDIERS …..

The powers that be in the “US,” know fully well they are backing the populace up against the wall, to the point of insanity, bloodshed …and mayhem ………SNAPPING…..

marisacat - 9 January 2011

Oh not to worry! he passed the FBI check to buy the gun…

diane - 9 January 2011


14. catnip - 8 January 2011

Oh, CNN is showing pics of the WH powwow. Look! There’s Bill Daley! **swoon**

Oh! There’s another one of Obamalama on the phone with Jan Brewer! How presidential of him!

Never miss a photo op, guys.

What a joke.

15. BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

The DK rec list.

Clarence Dupnik: Pima country Sheriff & American Hero
by hester


Gabby Giffords: A Few Words
by Alan Grayson


marisacat - 8 January 2011

Drahma Trahma.

BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

Oh my.

Political Times
The End of the Era of Intolerance, or Just the Beginning?
Published: January 8, 2011

WASHINGTON — Within minutes of the first reports Saturday that Representative Gabrielle Giffords, an Arizona Democrat, and a score of people with her had been shot in Tucson, pages began disappearing from the Web. One was Sarah Palin’s infamous “cross hairs” map from last year, which showed a series of contested Congressional districts, including Ms. Giffords’s, with gun targets trained on them. Another was from Daily Kos, the liberal blog, where one of the congresswoman’s apparently liberal constituents declared her “dead to me” after Ms. Giffords voted against Nancy Pelosi in House leadership elections last week.

Odds are pretty good that neither of these — nor any other isolated bit of imagery — had much to do with the shooting in Tucson. But scrubbing them from the Internet couldn’t erase all evidence of the rhetorical recklessness that permeates our political moment. The question is whether Saturday’s shooting marks the logical end point of such a moment — or rather the beginning of a terrifying new one.

Modern America has endured such moments before. The intense ideological clashes of the 1960s, which centered on Communism and civil rights and Vietnam, were marked by a series of assassinations that changed the course of American history, carried out against a televised backdrop of urban riots and self-immolating war protesters…………….


Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011


marisacat - 8 January 2011

Commenter at Politico was running with the Daily Kos diary some hours ago. I think an effort to throw off a spot light on Palin (who cares?)…

IIRC the big stressor to the Kosswhack was that Giffords voted against la Nana…

catnip - 8 January 2011

This past week’s episode of Grey’s Anatomy was about a mass shooting and what’s eerie is that they showed a crowd outside the hospital at the end that had gathered with candles (& singing) for the victims. Life imitates art which imitates life…

Madman in the Marketplace - 8 January 2011

everyone knows their lines in the script, too.

16. BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

And a site aptly named TwitPic has a screenshot of the DK diary put up two days ago

Inconvenient to say the least…

And the author had this up in response,

thanks for saying that. it was mine. (95+ / 0-)

and it had VERY poor timing to say the least. and i did delete it out of respect and regret. i am going to the local Dem precinct meeting Monday…

THAT should go over well!

…. and i WAS going to bring up why i was upset that Gabby voted against Pelosi for leader, feeding into the media narrative that NINETEEN fellow Dems don’t like her and think the 111th House as too far left. Well, OBVIOUSLY THAT won’t be happening. it’ll be emotional and all about what Dupnik courageously said about vitriol and what it leads to. My mom is an RN and says that Gabrielle is not out of the woods yet. I’m an atheist so I won’t say “pray”, but keep the hope alive and keep sending positive thoughts her way that she a) lives, b) can recover a semblance of a good life after such a traumatic brain injury, and, just maybe, c) can eventually return to Washington.

What I plan on saying Monday is that there needs to be a secret service type thing for members of Congress. Her local office was practically DESTROYED over her voting yes on the health care bill. For voting yes on a health care bill? wow. (shakes head) Arizona is a piece of shit violent prejudice state. I loathe having to live here. Especially being gay.

Not a single issue voter, but if I was, gay rights would be it. I just want Democrats to be tough. And I wish Obama were tougher. That’s all. I’m a proud gay!

by BoyBlue on Sat Jan 08, 2011 at 07:57:44 PM PST

[ Parent ]

There goes his mojo and budding Front Pager status!

And nice to see he got off a reply with 95 recommends in the thread.

Ya know, before the FBI broke his door down.

17. BooHooHooMan - 8 January 2011

It’s outrageous frankly.

Ad showing DORITOS chips as Eucharists yanked from Super Bowl…

At a time like this.

18. marisacat - 9 January 2011

Oh Saturday was a day of frantic re-writing!


–ABC’s “Good Morning America“: George Stephanopoulos will co-anchor live from Tucson, joined by anchor Dan Harris.

–ABC’s “This Week“: Anchor Christiane Amanpour will report live from Tucson. Package from Jonathan Karl.

–NBC’s “Meet the Press” will have a report from scene by NBC’s Lester Holt. Then a special panel will talk about Giffords, her work in Washington and whether the tone of our current political climate contributes to security threats against elected officials: from Arizona, Reps. Raul Grijalva (D) and Trent Franks (R); her close friend, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida; another colleague, the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.); and newly elected Rep. Raul Labrador, a Tea-Party-backed Republican from Idaho. Then David Gregory’s taped, pre-shooting exclusive with Leader Reid.

–Bret Baier fills in on “Fox News Sunday.”

–CBS’s “Face the Nation” – Bob Schieffer’s guests: Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.); Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.); Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.); Nancy Cordes, CBS News Congressional Correspondent; Jan Crawford, CBS News Chief Legal Correspondent; and Bob Orr, CBS News Justice and Homeland Security Correspondent.

19. marisacat - 9 January 2011

Oh i cannot stand it!… the child who died was born on 9/11 and in fact appeared in a book called… wait for it:

Faces of Hope

chatting about 50 kidlets born that day.

Stephie is suitably overcome, declaring her ”still a face of hope”, but ”tied to the Two Great Tragedies of This Decade”.

I dunno dear, I think the poor child is d e a d. Dead.

Of course 2 76 year olds died as well, and a 79 year old.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011

and they bring DICK ARMEY on This Week, who’s using it to push his rhetoric and distance the tea party.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011

I see the child is also the grandchild of a former major league baseball player and manager (he managed the Phillies into the World Series.

marisacat - 9 January 2011

The circle is complete… they got big time sports in the deal.

20. marisacat - 9 January 2011

ms_xeno posts at Live Journal, expanded frm her original comment at SMBIVA (she links back, and SMBIVA has several good posts up on the Saturday just past.

[I] feel bad for Giffords, in the sense that her causes are pretty stupid ones to be shot for. Supporting that “healthcare reform” garbage, or whatever other shit Obama’s been ladling out these past several years? Arguing over whether Pelosi or some other patrician ghoul should be paid to gloat in public about all the things we can’t have because they need to be “off the table” so s/he can wave around that stupid-looking mallet? Sure, it’s nasty as fuck, but it’s nothing we don’t see all the time, every day.

Naturally, because of an ongoing problem with leadership and their media servants who do nothing but enrich themselves with ever more toxic dog-and-pony shows, we should all now bend over happily for more abusive “safety” measures. We should all be thrilled at the prospect of body searches; with more harassment and more monitoring from Security (public or private or both) should we stir ourselves to go to Town Hall meetings –or any other public gathering– in the future? Because of a few outright lunatics, we’ll now all be treated as lunatics in the making. That’s what domestic dissent is, in the eyes of our glorious liberal/conservative “leaders” and our smug, self-satisfied, mind-blowingly stupid liberal/conservative media: a mark of lunacy. Once they can brand us in that fashion –all of us as crazed gunmen (gunpeople?) who simply have yet to purchase the gun– they can do whatever they want in order to make ever-more-sure we can’t touch them, either in the literal or figurative sense.

You think they’ll stop with just looking us over at the door of the Town Hall to see if we’ve got big guns stuffed in our pockets [or if we’re just glad to see them?] You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

I just had to turn off MTP, Rep Cleaver was getting on my fucking nerves. Simpletons abound in this country, and they ALL lecture.

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011

sums things up really well.

ms_xeno - 9 January 2011

Glad you liked it. SMBIVA has gotten pretty good at spinning silk purses out of “Bill Sykes” and the other socks that seem to hang around the place these days. (Our old pal Stan seems to pop up in various sock guises there on a semi-regular schedule, though I don’t know if “B.S.” is one of his. You’d have to ask Al Schumann.) Gotta’ get the laughs while we can, right?

marisacat - 9 January 2011

While you’re at it ms_xeno, have two glasses of marked down cab for me… 😉

ms_xeno - 9 January 2011

While you’re at it ms_xeno, have two glasses of marked down cab for me… 😉

Yeah, but only after the roast, et al. are safely out of the oven. It would be gauche to burn down the house before the bank can get its crack at repossession, doncha’ know… :p

21. marisacat - 9 January 2011

Detecting “grumpiness” as a front line defense against the ever-looming terroristic threat.


The White House has instructed every US government department and agency to create “insider threat” programmes that will ferret out disgruntled or untrustworthy employees who might be tempted to leak the sort of state secrets recently made public by the website WikiLeaks.

A 13-page memo detailing the new policy urges senior civil servants to beef up cyber security and hire teams of psychiatrists and sociologists who can “detect behavioural changes”. They will then monitor the moods and attitudes of staff who are allowed to access classified information.

The move is designed to prevent further embarrassing disclosures of the sort which have dominated the news in recent months. Unfortunately, just 48 hours after the memo was sent, a copy was leaked to staff at NBC news, who duly posted it on their website.

“Do you have an insider threat programme or the foundation for such a programme?” it asks department heads, adding that they should keep a close eye on the “relative happiness” of workers, because a staffer who displays “despondence and grumpiness” is likely to be untrustworthy. ….

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011

fucking authoritarians …

marisacat - 9 January 2011

oh the thread, comment after comment, is very heartening…

Just two:

hummingbird 3 days ago

Like in “The Lives of Others” , where everyone spies on everyone else: there is no future for a country with that kind of mentality.

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kiwismartone 2 days ago in reply to hummingbird

Perhaps Mother Earth could just belch grandly and enclose over the USA…leaving a nice ocean short cut between Canada and Mexico…oh, we all can dream!

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011

what if they employee is having trouble in their marriage, or ill, or …

… so damned “progressive”. Fuckers.

marisacat - 9 January 2011

One commenter said, care to take my temp every day, on a “monthly watch”? (snicker!)

Oh my what do we do with Boehner? The Weeper? Should we worry!??? (I think we should! Commence Worry Circles!)

Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011

maybe that’s why Rahm left … he did have an unhappy look on his face much of the time.

marisacat - 9 January 2011

He pushed people around in the SHOWERS!

Worry Circles are ordered to WORRY!

22. BooHooHooMan - 9 January 2011

The Sherrif in AZ is intoducing Moeller who coincidentally just arrived in the Mecca of Bigotry.

No doubt introducing the new license plate manufacturing program. New Slogan and all…

23. BooHooHooMan - 9 January 2011

*Mueller is saying Loechner attended a previous event with Giffords in 2007…

24. BooHooHooMan - 9 January 2011

I think I like this old Sherrif..
Waaay waay late for laments, but he took a swipe at weapons carry on campus and the utter vacuum in mental health resources.
Nothing new, but a closer commentary on Policy

marisacat - 9 January 2011

I’ve seen local (AZ) reports coming after him for “politicising” the killings.

Gee who is NOT using it?

No one in sight, that is certain.

BooHooHooMan - 9 January 2011

That said,
the guy is clearly assigned the good cop role.

25. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011

Tossed something up: Share your prayers

26. BooHooHooMan - 9 January 2011

Speaking of good cop… roles…

Mossad’s Dagan, in making his Swan Song,
has dropped a dime on BiBi to all the Israeli papers and…WikiLeaks.

How will Israel’s new strategic leadership deal with Iran?

Those exposed to outgoing Mossad chief’s Meir Dagan’s arguments will find it difficult to ignore their logic, and the assertive tone in which they were made.
By Amos Harel

The departing chief of the Mossad, Meir Dagan, signed off last week with a clear and unequivocal message to the public: The Iranian nuclear threat is far from ripe. Israel and the international community still have plenty to do to undermine it, and a military assault is not the right solution.

One may assume the Israeli leadership, especially the prime minister, know Dagan’s position on the matter. But his departure allowed us, for the first time and despite the partial cover of the censor, to get a better and more detailed idea of his approach to the nuclear problem. Perhaps this was a Bibi-bypass maneuver on Dagan’s part; by making his position public, Dagan has written a warning firmly on his name. This, to a significant degree, is his legacy: The warning of the great risks of a war (twice injured, he has a close and personal knowledge of such a price ), and the understanding that before setting out on a military campaign, the leaders must use all alternative means to remove the threat.

For journalists, Dagan was almost inaccessible throughout his Mossad term. He kept mum for eight years and four months. It seems the tremendous weight of the Iranian issue and the consequences of a decision to attack made him set aside his long-term reservations about journalism.

Readers of the weekend papers would find that the publications are surprisingly well-versed in what the head of the secret service had to say. Dagan spoke “in closed discussions,” “in a round of departure talks,” “in documents leaked to Wikileaks.”

Too bad none of the Israeli Leadership has any credibility and it comes off as yet another bullshit internal bamboozle.

27. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011
28. catnip - 9 January 2011

Kossack BoyBlue has apologized and then he steps in it:

I would bet my house that it will come out that some disgruntled former Jesse Kelly rightwing supporters did this.

1. WTF is he apologizing for in the first place? Because some idiots think that writing someone is “dead to me” is literal?

2. Then he blames Giffords’ opponent’s supporters? Yeah. That’s bound to go over well with the idiots mentioned in point #1.

ms_xeno - 9 January 2011

3. Why does anyone still take DK seriously in the first place?


catnip - 9 January 2011

Matt Bai does, apparently. 😉

29. Madman in the Marketplace - 9 January 2011
30. catnip - 9 January 2011

Ed Rendell has a tantrum on tonite’s 60 Minutes when confronted about allowing more gambling in PA. He calls the reporter and her camera people “simpletons” and “idiots”.

Story and pic.

31. marisacat - 9 January 2011



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