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Flux 17 January 2011

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, AFRICOM, DC Politics, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

A fire at a residence in Hammamet

A fire at a residence in Hammamet, said to be owned by a member of the president’s inner circle. There have been reprisals against anything owned by the the former president or his family [AFP/GETTY] 

We seem to be in an era, or a gasp in time at least, when there is extra flux. 

I see too, in the news, that ”Baby Doc” Duvalier has shown himself in Haiti.

Meanwhile, the adult daughters of the ousted leader of Tunisia are holed up at the Disneyland Hotel outside of Paris.  Mother, so says the Daily Mail, is thought to be Dubai, where she likes to shop.  Father is behind a wall of armed guards in Jeddah…

That, the Disneyland Hotel, seems weirdly appropriate.




1. BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

The Independent has a piece, waxing on Eisenhower’s MIC warnings. Standard recital in the article. A great starting point…
for most excellent agit prop. LOL.
Sooo many great comments in this thread.

Some of the commentary following
Ike was right all along:
The danger of the military-industrial complex

But he did didn’t he. The 50s were a time of growth, stability and opportunity. The US is a socialist state now.

{Now Pivot, Son! There! – BHHM 😆 }

It is just a socialist state for the rich. It is still is socialist. State controlled economy? Check Government owned and run industry? Check Unaccountable economic and political mandarins (known as the politburo in other countries)? check Heavy regulation of small businesses? Check. Control of the media? Check Cartoon/buffoonish political figures who are pathological liars? check anti-initellectualism? check hysterical opposition to anyone or any policy that questions the status quo? check etc etc

Anything to disabuse us of our assumptions.

Interesting article; I’d just add a couple points: The US is only nominally a democracy; technology, propaganda and corruption have been harnessed to marginalize the power of the average US citizen. Elections are stolen, districts are gerrymandered, overwhelming electoral propaganda is bought by corporations and the super-rich, genuinely independent candidates are quickly neutralized by hook or crook, and the three branches of government and their corporate controllers work together to undermine the laws and Constitution and keep the citizenry in a state of fear (or infotainment). Also, the MIC, or MICC, is changing with the times; howitzers are old news; surveillance is in. And increasingly, the military is operating in and over the US (eg, drones over New York State, announced this week). Seems the MIC worries that the natives will wake up. And I’d also point out that large segments of the US population don’t share the adulation of the military; the rich and middle class largely think the military is beneath their kids; the poor often realize that their kids are being fed into a meat grinder. This adulation is largely government-encouraged, and is only the most cynical lip service. To see what the elites really think of their military, see how the grunts and veterans are actually treated. The Pentagon’s motto for personnel is “Use ’em and lose ’em.”

Of course further enriching and fortifying Elites is the game….and who knows the next poster’s intent, still, this works rather well methinks for those still struggling with the CW POV…
Again, anything to disabuse us:

What is so fascinating is that since 1945 the “military-industrial complex’ has been such an abject failure! The US military have lost China to the Communists, were nearly wiped out in the Korean War, lost in Vietnam, were humiliated by the Iranians and showed their military competence in Operation Desert Storm where they had to withdraw, have been defeated in Lebanon and Somalia, struggled with insurgency in Iraq and are just about to be defeated in Afghanistan! Despite their wealth, technology, scientific expertise and military technology, the MIC has not prevailed!

Tho this, IMO… lays it out for what it is –

Freeda Weed
It’s not about defence! It is about creating a sustainable war(vietnam/iraq/afghan), a war that is not meant to be won!! Look at who the main defence contractors are in the usa. Wars initiated by the usa are not meant to be won, it’s big business like oil and banks, they own the fookin lot mate!

Great thread.
And you know it’s funny, In the NYT, now the Pentagon is whining that their Cyber Warriors are fucking cyber suffering, yep, cyber casualties, info overload, some sort of…baffle fatigue?

Data is among the most potent weapons of the 21st century. Unprecedented amounts of raw information help the military determine what targets to hit and what to avoid. And drone-based sensors have given rise to a new class of wired warriors who must filter the information sea. But sometimes they are drowning.

Research shows that the kind of intense multitasking required in such situations can make it hard to tell good information from bad. The military faces a balancing act: how to help soldiers exploit masses of data without succumbing to overload.

As the technology allows soldiers to pull in more information, it strains their brains. And military researchers say the stress of combat makes matters worse. Some research even suggests that younger people wind up having more trouble focusing because they have grown up constantly switching their attention.

Poor kids. Having to monitor 5 1/2 billion people calling you La Dick morning noon and night…in every tongue and check on Earth.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

Poor kids. Having to monitor 5 1/2 billion people calling you La Dick morning noon and night…

It’s a hard job but someone has to do it.

BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

Like the one commenter said of the
Brass and Big Shots attitude..
Use em and Lose em.

Leaving lower level sorts fully qualified for a fine future of fucking up burger orders elsewhere. Or managing the minor electronics and game selection offered at a low wage local retailer. Cuz not everybody gets the cushy plum jobs reserved for Officers. Not most of the officers either, that’s for sure. Nah, it’s not gonna be pretty when the rank and file figure out that they got beat , too.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

well… the plan is to keep the endless wars going… endlessly.

As we move toward arresting and holding people for suspected “anti-social” behaviors. Forget actually killing people.

BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

Hiring AND arresting people for anti social behaviors. Talk about efficiency!

Once perfected, Surely we can be the first to make a wholly unproductive Paranoid Nation State work! 😉

2. BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

Four years of high school steroid testing: $400,000 spent, 2,000 athletes tested, one positive test

A little more than four years ago, New Jersey became the first state to test high school athletes for performance-enhancing drugs. Since then, the state and the New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association have spent $400,000 to test about 2,000 student-athletes.

Only one student-athlete has tested positive.

Two other states — Texas and Florida — have tested high school athletes with similar results….

Well, following a complete database assembly –
and the interim of mob rule – sometime after our exhausted info-overloaded apparatchiks noticed potentially teaming ‘insurgents’ massing at an oddly familiar locale near the gym and they – oops – called in a drone strike on their own suburban office park bunker…at least there will be a full database of blood types for whatever regime that follows to determine who are forgotten and who are ultimately awarded medals as revolutionaries.

So much for extrapolation.
This is 44% encouraging tho..

Should New Jersey and the NJSIAA be testing high school athletes for performance-enhancing drugs?

Yes. It’s a good deterrent 421 56%
No. It’s a waste of money. 328 44%

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 January 2011

good thing they didn’t waste the money on something stupid, like books.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

Made me wonder how much drug testing will be bought with the 100 mil band aid money from Zuckerberg to Newark.


I am sure we are just as stupid out here…. Target is planning to open a new store in the East Bay, in some depressed area…. they had a day of taking in resumes and doing drug testing.


ms_xeno - 17 January 2011

Don’t even get me started.

I had a very minor injury at work today, and I’m not inclined to report it. They can demand you take an additional drug test if you do.

Of course, that would mean my “account manager” at the temp agency would actually have to interrupt his W.O.W. game or whatever to speak with me, so maybe I shouldn’t worry.


marisacat - 17 January 2011

They can demand you take an additional drug test if you do.

oh ms_xeno…. take care of yourself… but i understand about not reporting. how awful!

ms_xeno - 17 January 2011

Yeah, thanks. But I’m sure it’s nothing serious. A box full of crap– er, valuable property, fell down maybe 3′-4′ and struck my right foot. The steel too boot absorbed most of the shock, except for a slim line up near the ball of the foot.

I’ll see how it feels in the A.M.

The last time I tried to follow protocol and report a minor injury to the “contact” at the agency, he pretty much ignored me. I’ve been working for this dude’s “account” now for almost two years. He was visiting the warehouse last month to chat with some Important People, but couldn’t apparently be arsed to walk over to our side of the building to introduce himself. I’ve never even seen his face.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

soak in Epsom salts! I think they cure almost everything… 😉

ms_xeno - 17 January 2011

That must be what the temp agency means whenever they suggest that I go soak my head. 😛

marisacat - 17 January 2011

well of course I meant the foot, leg… or a full bath of Epsom Salts… 😉

I used to buy it by the cartons…

3. marisacat - 17 January 2011


Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Steve Jobs Takes Another Medical Leave From Apple

diane - 17 January 2011

quick, everyone, make sure your organs are still there.

(ok, that was mean …nothing personal though …just commentary about ..the state of healthcare for a few, versus the majority)

marisacat - 17 January 2011

wonder what state he’ll pick on next…

I see some reports saying the issue is weight loss. hmmm and what else I wonder.

diane - 17 January 2011

Detroit, Michigan? hmmmmm, maybe Cook County, Illnoiz?

mebbe Rahm can hook him up ………

diane - 17 January 2011

ohh, and gee, ….guess it’s too bad for our ‘immortals’ who have the bad luck to fall ill while The Singularity Institute is still in ugly deformed baby stage, versus ugly deformed adulthood.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

well if he needs a transplant he needs anotehr underpopulated state, like TENN. Or, maybe he just goes back there. I imagine he bought somewhere to live while he was there…

mattes - 17 January 2011

Well…there’s always Palestine.

diane - 17 January 2011

I guess the Sout’ would be a good set-up, perfect symbolism too, all those vast, water hog, server ‘farms’ ….

marisacat - 17 January 2011

Like we don’t have those as well…………

Helll western France has “factory” pig farms.

diane - 17 January 2011

more “fresh water” available in the sout’ though.

4. BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

Madman saw this latest development on Julian Assange, WikiLeaks, and the Swiss Banker over the weekend…

which indeed, went well today in London.
Right down to the optics of handing off a ceremonial Cd Gotta love it –

And no need for Roger Moore emerging from the drapes to get THE. SOLE. COPY! Good thing we can rely on our Intelligence and Technology!

Heh. Lord knows with the nexus of talent, it’s already steg’d into netporn and vid games.
BUT! ~ Good thing THAT stuff does get around much!
Right, Chuck? Eh, Bill?
Obbie so needs to call Hillary now.

Ex-Swiss Banker Gives Data to WikiLeaks
Published: January 17, 2011

LONDON — A former Swiss bank executive said on Monday that he had given the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, details of more than 2,000 prominent individuals and companies that he contends engaged in tax evasion and other possible criminal activity.

Rudolf M. Elmer, the former head of the Cayman Islands office of the prominent Swiss bank Julius Baer, refused to identify any of the individuals or companies, but told reporters at a press conference that about 40 politicians and “pillars of society” worldwide are among them.

Easy to see how they’re playing it, but still…

Mr. Assange said that WikiLeaks would verify and release the information, including the names, in as little as two weeks. He suggested possible partnerships with financial news organizations and said he would consider turning the information over to Britain’s Serious Fraud Office, a government agency that investigates financial corruption.

Mr. Elmer said he had turned to WikiLeaks to educate society .. 😉

Hey, the guy needs to live – cut him some slack.
Plus he hits the right marks.
So if you missed earlier episodes on Elmer, Bank Julius Baer, it’s CEO suicide, oh and Schumer , the DSCC, The Secretary of State a current and former President and who ELSE received money from Nemazzee and Morris’ moneylaundering there…. start here.

But let us carry on with the Public Relations, shall we?!

…about what he considers an unfair system designed to serve the rich and aid money launderers after his offers to provide the data to universities and governments were spurned and, in his opinion, the Swiss media failed to cover the substance of his allegations. “The man in the street needs to know how this system works,” he said, referring to the offshore trusts that many “high net worth individuals” across the world use to evade taxes.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

are we still waiting on the B of A stuff?

I think we are (tho I coulda missed it!!)

BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

We are. And while running a bit late, some precautionary measures being in the mix, like butterflies o’er coast, these benign citizens are gonna deliver.

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 January 2011

I did enjoy how public they made it, with discs displayed in fancy jewel cases, the whole thing … rub the bankers’ faces in it.

5. BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011
marisacat - 17 January 2011

gee… i thought every one was anxious to stay in the newly revamped bi-curious WH

BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

Well, he’ll always have Bill.
Oh I KID! I Kid! 😆

6. BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

via xerohedge –

Goldman Sachs Pulls US Investors From Facebook Investment

LOL. Yes, apparently tis so.

Goldman Sachs Limits Facebook Share Offer To “Offshore” Investors, Fears Breaking U.S. Law

Hell freezes over.
That last blunt one from…FORBES.

Mealsothinks Steve Jobs health announcement is also well considered legal advice given their announcement today of the deal with Verizon to carry their I Phone. Which is fast loosing sales to clones.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

Which is fast loosing sales to clones.

Oh noes.

Supposedly it has fallen 10% in Germany, which is open for biz today.

Oh………… buying opportunity!

(I admit, I am only interested in something so devastating it would END the Apple flabfest here in SF every fuckin’ year)

7. BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

I think there’s a prollem for our PTB in the ever short lived “Cool” to commodity cycle, tho.

What happens when their assistance to the “entrepreneurial” “Cool” brokers of meant-for-military gadgetry born of DARPA contracts…is no longer enough?
Like when they fall behind in the human development cycle and their runaway MIC commodity cycle renders itself and any notion of forcing rations on the rational into a flashpoint?

What happens when all they have left to differentiate their product is an obviously sad offering on the tipping point of the scales? What happens when increasingly-informed, turned-to-disinclined consumers see their offering for what it is? What happens when it no longer… fills???

When frivolity and “Text-to” feel-goodism is hardly confused with food in a fuckin famine? When coercion and control, when “cooperation” and “conformity” and all the bloody addons begin to truly fail despite the best of corporate marketing?

What happens then, when people begin to demand their basic needs, even, Gasp – when something else becomes “cool”?
Like Truth. Like Sanity. Like Justice. Like Peace.
What happens when the once easily duped ‘consumer’ won’t willingly accept anything less?

What happens then? It’s already begun.

BooHooHooMan - 17 January 2011

Wapner’s on. Wapner. Headin’ out. 😉

marisacat - 17 January 2011

I will believe it when people cause a dramatic drop in flying. It is ONE thing they can do where they are not up against the Terror Age laws… not out on the streets vulnerable to tear gas, batons, gun fire, etc.

IF that happens, then I will believe the Peeple mean soemthing…

I still say, far less than 20% of us are still sane. Makes it very problematical.

But certainly in a sense anything can happen. There is a post over at corrente today, think it is DCBlogger, that makes a distinction between wealthy (who travel commercial, albeit in First or Business), and filthy stinking wealthy (who travel by private jet). hmmm.

That the merely wealthy (I would call them moneyed, as opposed to wealthy — possibly corporate middle management as well) may soon feel tht so many fo the restricitions strangling middle class and poor affect them as well.

I dunno.

ms_xeno - 17 January 2011

I suppose I should “rise above” and still read over there, but I can’t bring myself to give Lambert any hits after his obnoxious little lecture to me last year.

Same with Caruso. Let somebody else do it. :/

marisacat - 17 January 2011

oh I agree with you…

both are silly idiots.

ms_xeno - 17 January 2011

Yeah, I don’t expect candy and flowers just because I gave somebody a few links once or twice, but I do expect to not be lectured to like I’m a brain-damaged puppy who couldn’t quite get to the newspaper on time. :p

marisacat - 17 January 2011

I found them both to be pissy children.

I notice that lambert lately pulls out the old Dkos “trick” when he feels like it he tells people to bakc up what they say with links.

I can see individual posters saying to one another, have a linnk on that?… but when imposed willy nilly by the blog host hmm it really does nto work.

And really, people have to be free to post OPINION. Random thoughts, thinking something thru etc.

It’s all a scam…

ms_xeno - 17 January 2011

He’s a fucking hypocrite then. I’ve seen a couple of his prized “pets,” like riverdaughter, post egregiously stupid, disjointed shit without links. Doesn’t seem to bother him then, if they’re also the part of the rah-rah Clinton brigade.

I used to blog until I was blue (or green :P) in the face on some of the Demo blogs, regarding electoral reform and the like. Nobody gave a fart in the wind. It was a waste of my time. People hear what they want to hear. End of fucking story.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

Doesn’t seem to bother him then, if they’re also the part of the rah-rah Clinton brigade.

yup… as I said it is done when it suits him.

John Halle sometime ago referred to blogs that appear to be in waiting for their preferred faction of Democrat to come to the fore.

Eh… I think lambert and John Caruso fit that mold.

I figured JC for an idiot when he referred to the SF Bd of Supes as “liberal”. oh puh-leeze.

Same sell outs they always are… 35+ years ago they, each and every one of them, would “consult” for various firms who wanted a Supervisor in their corner. Submit a monthly bill for “consulting”…back then it was a thousand a month or so.

😆 I am sure only the price has gone up…

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 17 January 2011

Situational Pro-Life Ethics

A nurse practitioner at an Idaho Planned Parenthood called a local Walgreen’s pharmacy to fill a prescription for Methergine, a medicine used to prevent or control bleeding of the uterus following childbirth or an abortion. The pharmacists refused to fill the prescription unless the nurse told her whether or not the patient had an abortion. Because of patient confidentiality laws, the nurse refused to disclose that information, and asked for a referral to another pharmacy. The pharmacist hung up.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

ugh. I think, sad to say, under the conscience clause regs, only inquiring as to details of the medical procedure was beyond the line.

Refusal to fill the script and refusal to offer information and refusal to offera referral or even to get another pharmacy tech to fill the order is well within the most recent wording.

Thanks to both parties.

Wiat til people find otu the restrictions on ANY abortion coverage in the new HCR regs…. From my reading, women are going to have to buy, if it is even offered, separate abortion coverage. Not a laughing matter if there are medical issues that might call for it, and the woman or the family knows this ahead of time..

Good luck

9. marisacat - 17 January 2011

Oh I haave stopped believing anything out of that hospital in whereever in AZ.

I just heard a clip from the Kelly interview with Diane S. Sheeeit.


He tries to say (well, he does say, he tries for us to believe) that she massaged his neck for 10 minutes.

A feeding tube. Two surgeries over the weekend on her eye sockets. Part of her skull either in a fridge womewhere or I have heard, someetimes they slip it into the belly fat…

Forget it.

This is deep into fairy land.

10. ts - 17 January 2011

Loverly. A couple feeding 60-120 homeless people a week is shut down in Houston – because they didn’t have a food permit.


What I think is rich is the quote from the “president and CEO” of the Coalition for the Homeless, who said:

“We absolutely need more people like them who care about this vulnerable population. Even though their intentions are good, they ran into ordinances that are designed to protect the public. There are good reasons why they’re in place.”

Lips, meet ass. Ribbit.

marisacat - 17 January 2011

Charities guard their territory. Or that is how I see it…

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 January 2011

they shut down a very busy site in Milwaukee b/c the cops arrested two people, one who no longer worked there, for dealing drugs from the site:


The St. Vincent de Paul Society closed the meal site at 931 W. Madison St. on Jan. 7 after police searched the building and arrested two people as part of an investigation into drug dealing at the site. One of those arrested was a kitchen supervisor, and the other was a former employee who worked at the meal program. The Milwaukee County district attorney’s office is reviewing the allegations.

Officials plan to reopen the meal site Feb. 6 after completing improvements to the building that had been planned before the drug bust.

Backers of the program questioned the delay and worried about the impact it would have.

“Really, people’s lives are at stake,” said Glenn Danz, senior pastor at Zion United Church of Christ, 3301 S. 76th St.

Volunteers from the church provide food and serve at the meal site the first Wednesday of every month, as part of a rotation of church-based helpers who keep the site going. Danz has served meals there for a half-dozen years.

“Many of the people who come there are working,” he said. “They need food, and that can be a matter of life or death. Spending that extra time on a bus or walking to another meal site, I have no doubt that is a great hardship for people.”

The site served nearly 400 meals a day, which makes it the largest in the area, St. Vincent de Paul officials said.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

what a tragedy…. I wonder how quickly it will re-open….

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 January 2011

it may be a few weeks, from what I understand. A brief report on the local NPR news break quoted a woman from a local group, Hunger Task Force (who’re just awesome, providing tons of food while also organizing activism on helping the poor) as saying that a sizable number of the meals served there were served to children.

More important to take a couple of small-time dealers off the street than feed the needy, which says everything about the fucked-up priorities of this society.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

I am sure there were ways not to have to close it. If they had wanted to do it that way…

11. marisacat - 18 January 2011

Ob’s pro-business op/ed in the WSJ.

ts - 18 January 2011

This could have been written by any President or Congresscritter any time in the past 200 years, and probably was, pulled from the file, dusted off, published dutifully on cue.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

the thread at WSj just laughed at him.

12. marisacat - 18 January 2011

If only we all could have such a soft landing…

Via der Spiegel:

An owl that had evidently drunk too much Schnapps from two discarded bottles was so inebriated that it got picked up by police. The bird will be released once it has sobered up.

German police said on Tuesday they had discovered a paralytic owl that appeared to have drunk too much Schnapps from two discarded bottles.

“A woman walking her dog alerted the police after seeing the bird sitting by the side of the road oblivious to passing traffic,” Frank Otruba, spokesman for the police in the southwestern city of Pforzheim, told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

The Brown Owl didn’t appear to be injured and officers quickly concluded that it had had one too many. One of its eyelids was drooping, adding to the general impression of inebriation.

“It wasn’t staggering around and we didn’t breathalyze it but there were two little bottles of Schapps in the immediate vicinity,” said Otruba. “We took it to a local bird expert who has treated alcoholized birds before and she has been giving it lots of water.”

The bird will be released once it has sobered up, police said.

… at least it gave me a laugh…

diane - 18 January 2011

awwww …that was a nice reprieve,…thank you hon.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

Welll… I feel for the poor thing, drunk out of his or her little skull on schnaapps. I bet that was some headache.

diane - 18 January 2011

yeah, …with all that sugar content….I’m lucky (or not?) not to get drinking headaches, but then I’m not big on the sugary ……..

marisacat - 18 January 2011

I’d love to sit down wiht a lovely glass of red wine… but all I was able to get down over the past two years WAS suger. 2 bottles of Myer’s Rum… and a single bottle of Bailey’s Irish Cream whatever… I think the sugar fakes my body out and it misses there is alcohol in the deal.

diane - 18 January 2011

;0( I wonder if you could take a nippy of Remy Martin …if there would be enough sugar there to fake your body out? …that is, if you like incredibly smooooooth cognac….

marisacat - 18 January 2011

I don’t think so… not “dessert” like neough… I never could drink cognac, Remy, Benedictine, Cointreau, Grand marnier… and the like (can’t think of the rest of the names), but on very very very bitter cold days, when I was out shopping or whatever and was frozen to death. And then only about half a shot. But just enough to warm up and go out into the freezing slog again…


13. marisacat - 18 January 2011

Actually I was expecting that the “Breaking News” was that St Gabby was immaculately pregnant, by Jesus of the Parking Lot.

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

As Many as 3 People Shot at Gardena High School in California?
Suspect Reportedly Still at Large [2:29 p.m. ET]

14. diane - 18 January 2011

One of the values of Forbes articles, is that the common “loser” person, can really get a grasp of just what the “Investor Class” may be up to, … and how “their betters” really feel. Witness some juicy lines from this one, How About Tax Reparations For The Rich?:

Most of the first paragraph certainly rings true, in my, loser opinion:

The recent debate over the Bush tax cuts was filled with enough rich-bashing and envy-stoking to make Karl Marx blush, and while the left may have lost that battle, it just might be winning the war. A recent 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll finds that 61% of respondents advocate raising taxes on wealthy Americans as the “first step” in balancing the budget. (By contrast, only 7% advocate cutting the entitlement programs — Medicare and Social Security …)

But wait, here it comes, …here’s the utter deceit of a verbal, sucker punch ,’last word’ (the last half of a parenthetical sentence, in this case):

(… Medicare and Social Security

— that are chiefly responsible for the budget crisis.)

And, of course, what would one of these types of vomit commentary be ….. without the not so subtle, malevolent, deceitful, Highly Ironic, implication that most of us contribute nothing to a healthy society, …..and should probably be dead:

… People forget that before the Edisons, Carnegies, Fords, and Rockefellers of the 19th century, most of the “working class” lived on the edge of starvation — if they lived at all. ….

Straining the piece through a sieve, one can go away with the knowledge that 7% of the population, are severe assholes, that’s putting it lightly.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

People forget that before the Edisons, Carnegies, Fords, and Rockefellers of the 19th century, most of the “working class” lived on the edge of starvation — if they lived at all. ….

And obviously Steve Jobs and others like him are perfectly sane to consider themselves more than mere household gods, but indeed to be modern Zeus and Apollo, etc.

Sun Gods, each and every one.

diane - 18 January 2011


marisacat - 18 January 2011

Speaking of the Gods of the Sun, Wind and Sea, the howling in San Francisco now that some realities of having “won” the rights t the America’s Cup, as visited upon us by Ellison of Oracle… about 80 or more established businesses that have space on a whole series of our piers, both to the walk in trade as well as office spaces, have to move …

Such weeping!! And I bet most of them wanted the damned thing here…

diane - 18 January 2011

..get out those hankies!

diane - 18 January 2011

On a serious note, what a hideous outcome for those small businesses that didn’t want it in the first place

marisacat - 18 January 2011

Wwell.. I think to win a spot on the piers you have already been playing the PR game…. but sure I am certain there are some that were not in favor. Many most all of the businesses are in some way tourist related. Boosters most of them.


I did spot a couple of old time holes in the wall that will go, Pier Inn, a dark drinking bar but with a great little bac eating area with a load of high curved glass looking out on the piers… and Pier 23 an
old time hang out that got a gentle redressing about 20 years ago… one that went down well.

We shall see..

diane - 18 January 2011

what was that ‘dive’ off the water, humming with business, that served the insanely affordable fish samwhichs with a draft? is it still there? ….I used to take a nice long walk and eat there occasionally, on a lunch break, when I worked in San Francisco …reminded me of a similar place, near the Golden Triangle, in Pittsburgh, PA ….

marisacat - 18 January 2011

I don’t know off hand… along the piers or was it off the piers and floating?

Think I have only been to Pier Inn, Pier 23… and of course the Waterfront, which I always thought was over hyped.

an old coffee and food place that was moved when Pier 39 (ugh) was built, but if you go there… Eagle Cafe think it was called, was still the same place. Pretty much the same people too with a smattering of a new crowd….The old joke was they moved the dirt too. (not that it was dirty, it was not)…

diane - 18 January 2011

That I recollect, it was south (or east?) of the tourist section, frequented by a lot of blue collar workers…it’s been so long …I’ve lost my sense of the streets there, think I walked down Market aways to get there. Eagle Cafe sounds familiar..

marisacat - 19 January 2011

Probably south ward… everything from a certain point, moving north is less and less blue collar… Pier Inn was still getting Samoan and Fijian sea/fishing/maritime workers… but I am sure it was draining away…

with the development of what they call “South Beach” (I guess we yearn to be Miami, or something) I am sure the blue collar had to keep moving…

yes, Eagle Cafe was an old time place, they just moved it to an accessible spot inside Pier 39… and somehow or other it survived the move….

diane - 18 January 2011

‘html’ clean up, …sorry, hopefully this is clearer:

One of the values of Forbes articles, is that the common “loser” person, can really get a grasp of just what the “Investor Class” may be up to, … and how “their betters” really feel. Witness some juicy lines from this one, How About Tax Reparations For The Rich?:

Most of the first paragraph certainly rings true, in my, loser opinion:

The recent debate over the Bush tax cuts was filled with enough rich-bashing and envy-stoking to make Karl Marx blush, and while the left may have lost that battle, it just might be winning the war. A recent 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll finds that 61% of respondents advocate raising taxes on wealthy Americans as the “first step” in balancing the budget. (By contrast, only 7% advocate cutting the entitlement programs — Medicare and Social Security …)

But wait, here it comes, …here’s the utter deceit of a verbal, sucker punch ,’last word’ (the last half of a parenthetical sentence, in this case):

(… Medicare and Social Security

— that are chiefly responsible for the budget crisis.)

And, of course, what would one of these types of vomit commentary be ….. without the not so subtle, malevolent, deceitful, Highly Ironic, implication that most of us contribute nothing to a healthy society, …..and should probably be dead:

… People forget that before the Edisons, Carnegies, Fords, and Rockefellers of the 19th century, most of the “working class” lived on the edge of starvation — if they lived at all. ….

Straining the piece through a sieve, one can go away with the knowledge that 7% of the population, are severe assholes, that’s putting it lightly.

diane - 18 January 2011

(— that are chiefly responsible for the budget crisis.) was actually the end of the second blockquote. The software must not have liked the bolding html.)

15. marisacat - 18 January 2011

Liebchen won’t be running again………….

United States Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) is expected to announce Wednesday that he will not seek a 5th term in 2012, Daily Ructions has learned. Lieberman has invited supporters to an event at the Marriott hotel in Stamford Wednesday afternoon for his announcement.

Lieberman rallied from a humiliating Democratic primary defeat in 2006 and won re-election as an independent that November in an epic contest with Greenwich millionaire Ned Lamont.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

oh. And. Conrad announced this am.

Ta ta. Syonara.

Madman in the Marketplace - 18 January 2011

good riddance … not that it matters.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

yeah to both of them. I cn think of a few more I’d like gone… and by now I know it hardly matters some asshole R goes in.

Conrad? Lieberman?

Who cares.

I also read that Huntsman may challenge Orrin Hatch. Wonder which Elder of the Mormon cult would be called on to OK that.

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 January 2011

An Execution in Utah

Cops storm a house, scream “police”, see a man with a golf club, and immediately pepper him with bullets. No “drop your weapon” or anything, just a real quick “police” and then POPPOPPOP and down he goes, dead.

Disturbing video.

diane - 18 January 2011

How awful.

and more on Utah in the news : Sen. Mike Lee Calls Child Labor Laws Unconstitutional … fucking sociopath, ….. although, not that aren’t plenty of other sociopathic congress creatures, and plenty of children laboring in Cali , and other states…………..

(link hat tip, “Capt. Howdy”)

17. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 January 2011
18. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 January 2011

Oops, I think that letter was supposed to be burned

Signed by the late Archbishop Luciano Storero, Pope John Paul II’s diplomat to Ireland, the letter instructs Irish bishops that their new policy of making the reporting of suspected crimes mandatory “gives rise to serious reservations of both a moral and canonical nature.”

Storero wrote that canon law, which required abuse allegations and punishments to be handled within the church, “must be meticulously followed.” Any bishops who tried to impose punishments outside the confines of canon law would face the “highly embarrassing” position of having their actions overturned on appeal in Rome, he wrote.

Child-abuse activists in Ireland said the 1997 letter demonstrates that the protection of pedophile priests from criminal investigation was not only sanctioned by Vatican leaders but ordered by them.

“The letter is of huge international significance, because it shows that the Vatican’s intention is to prevent reporting of abuse to criminal authorities. And if that instruction applied here, it applied everywhere,” said Colm O’Gorman, director of the Irish chapter of human rights watchdog Amnesty International.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

The damned churches, all of them, need to be smashed.

Not that it will be happening.

Loved that Shriver died today… when he was in DC he worshipped daily at the Opus Dei facility there. Geesh.

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 18 January 2011

Don Kirschner died

I heard so many great bands when I was 10, 11, 12 years old on his show. Rock Concert and Midnight Special … so much good stuff.

marisacat - 18 January 2011

That show and the old Midnight Special. They were wonderful…

20. marisacat - 19 January 2011

hmm this reminds me of when 5 D senators in the South retired…. 2004 iirc….

ABC’s Jonathan Karl:

“At least a dozen Senators who are up for re-election have not declared whether they intend to run for re-election. Based on discussions with campaign strategists in both parties, here are the top prospects for retirement — 1. Daniel Akaka D-Hawaii … 2. Jim Webb D-Va. … 3. Jeff Bingaman D-N.M. … 4. John Ensign R-Nev. … 5. Jon Kyl R-Ariz. … 6. Ben Nelson D-Neb. … 7. Herb Kohl D-Wisc.” (Yup, that’s 5 Ds and 2 Rs!)

Not that it matters… I don’t know much about Kohl (of Kohls stores, which has made huge inroads in suburban Norhtern Cali over the past few years) bt the rest of the crew is quite rightie…

21. marisacat - 19 January 2011

Reach out and touch someone… or alternatively, People Who Need People… etc.

Not exactly nooz, I realise, but a good post.

I’ll be surprised if Jobs survives this “medical leave”. Two in two years? Three since 2004?

Even the atrociously wealthy run out of options.

diane - 19 January 2011

link’s not working honey.

marisacat - 19 January 2011

it rides at the top of


the piece on Apple/everybody else etc.

diane - 19 January 2011

Thanks hon,. seems they’ve already got things well rolling, from what I recollect, Apple, and whoever else, has already instituted an iris scan as part of ‘their client’s phone security’ from what I heard via an Apple bot person on a news broadcast (think it was CBS?), who brazenly implied that privacy is no longer important (and of course got away with it, no umbrage or questions asked) ….Why anyone sane would be okay with that, I’m clueless about, just as clueless as to why anyone sane, would want to use their ‘trackable’ phone for everything they do 24/7, in addition to storing on all of their vital data on its ‘cloud,’ database.

22. catnip - 19 January 2011

Joe Lieberman: Democratic hero? By Ezra Klein

Spit out my tea over that one.

23. marisacat - 19 January 2011



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