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Gathering 13 February 2011

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements.

2nd Prize Nature Stories: Stefano Unterthiner, Italy, for National Geographic magazine. Whooper Swans at dawn, Hokkaido, Japan, January

Whooper Swans at dawn, Hokkaido, Japan, January
Picture: Stefano Unterthiner, Italy, for National Geographic magazine




1. BooHooHooMan - 13 February 2011

AA at his Best:

A Guide to Reading the Egyptian Uprising in its first week

1) Nothing you see now will stay.
2) Struggle between different forces and powers will take months and years to be resolved (it took Nasser until 1954 to control the scene in Cairo after the Revolution.
3) The names you hear now may not be heard from again, and there will be new names that you have not heard of before.
4) Some figures from the “ancien regime” will rear their faces and even prosper in the new regime.
5) Egypt has changed no matter what will happen. Fear is gone and control of state is loosened.
6) There will be violence: it is unlikely with 300 dead and 2000 injured that there won’t be revenge and assassinations.
7) Expect Mubrak-leaks: new documents will be leaked that will be embarrassing and damning (a document has been released by an Egyptian newspaper showing a horrible diplomatic order by the lousy Mubarak’s foreign minister, Ahmad Abu Al-Ghayt.
8) Enemies of the US/Israel in the country and in the region will have an advantage inside the country–politically and intelligence wise
9) There will be new political parties and groups and old ones will wither away
10) Mubarak can’t stay in the country. He said that he wants to die on Egyptian soil. He very well may–but not a natural death.
11) The media will change: the courageous journalists (a small number) of the previous era will be the new media star (`Abdul-Halim Qandil and Hamdi Qandil (no relation) and Ibrahim `Isa).
12) The Muslim Brotherhood will be courted by Iran, Turkey, and…US (not to mention Saudi Arabia which will only court them to appease the US although Saudi Arabia may be tempted to subvert the democratic system by supporting the Brothers to spite the US. Saudi anger at US is intense.
13) The role of the middle classes will recede on the streets, and that of peasants and workers will rise.

14) The vulgar singer, Sha`ban `Abdul-Rahim who sang for Husni Mubarak will come out with songs against him.
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 11:01 PM

13) The role of the middle classes will recede on the streets,

No doubt, the bulk of which are always last to come and first to leave, save for some genuinely committed few there from jump. I imagine they are also smaller in actual numbers or sense class identification, given the Oligarchs beat-down towards serfdom.

So I certainly hope so on this, that the [driving role] “of peasants and workers will rise.”

2. BooHooHooMan - 13 February 2011

LOL. AND Here’s AA’s VERY succint take..

US challenge:
how to make Arabs vote for US/Israel puppets

…on this morning’s WaPo

3. BooHooHooMan - 13 February 2011

The “New” Dailykos 4.0

Reports are in this morning that there are a
couple hundred caucasians still trapped in a
white wasteland online.

For the time being,
valiantly struggling against all odds
: — > that “it doesn’t bite”, 😆
they somehow have managed to add even new and improved WHITEYNESS.

A compelling drama: As the dying embers of a few remnant matchheads cast the ever faint orange glow barely seen across the frozen white plains…


😆 O my GAWD.
Q: How we gonna keep the front pagers afloat, Markos?

A: Make them Write, you know~ BIGGER! BIG!

Q: Buh – buh But ~
How can we get supplies out to the Sockpuppets?!?

A: Link to the Igloos! Carry On!

mattes - 13 February 2011

I think facebook and twitter are killing the blogs.

Frankly, I wish someone would come up with a new concept for progressives to link-up and communicate without outing themselves. Give Markos a little competition. With a bit more free speech.

4. marisacat - 13 February 2011

hmmm via the Mike Allen email.

Geithner still a certifiable nutcase.

FIRST LOOK – The New Republic, “The Escape Artist:

How Timothy Geithner Survived — In the past year, Geithner has shed a reputation as the administration’s most controversy-prone member,” by Noam Scheiber:

“I asked Geithner if he had a grand vision for the post-crisis landscape … Geithner hunched his shoulders, pressed his knees together, and lifted his heels up off the ground — an almost childlike expression of glee. ‘We’re going, like, existential,’ he said.

He told me he subscribes to the view that the world is on the cusp of a major ‘financial deepening’:

As developing economies in the most populous countries mature, they will demand more and increasingly sophisticated financial services, the same way they demand cars for their growing middle classes and information technology for their corporations.

“If that’s true, then we should want U.S. banks positioned to compete abroad. [that would be new? – Mcat] ‘I don’t have any enthusiasm for … trying to shrink the relative importance of the financial system in our economy as a test of reform, because we have to think about the fact that we operate in the broader world … It’s the same thing for Microsoft or anything else. We want U.S. firms to benefit from that. … Now financial firms are different because of the risk, but you can contain that through regulation.’ …

In effect, Geithner was arguing that we should be as comfortable linking the fate of our economy to Wall Street as to automakers or Silicon Valley.” Posting tomorrow.

Think that last there, ”linking our fate”, that thing, we did that alreaady.

so scrood. Rescrood.

mattes - 13 February 2011


How many Americans benefit directly from “financial instruments”??

And I guess the rest can eat cake. Or modern verse, eat GMO modified dirt.

ts - 13 February 2011

Geithner is the epitome of the Peter Principle. In fact, he is actually three or four levels above his appropriate level of incompetence. In fact, he should still be riding the short bus and not allowed to handle sharp objects.

ts - 13 February 2011

Let me put it this way: my two year old daughter could do just as good a job as Tim Geithner, and she’s still not fully potty trained.

ts - 13 February 2011

Let me put it this way: when I see Tim Geithner on television, I can’t help but blurt out “TIMMEH!”

ts - 13 February 2011

blurt, burt, same thing.

marisacat - 13 February 2011

and she’s still not fully potty trained.

a requirement of the job….


marisacat - 13 February 2011

he should still be riding the short bus and not allowed to handle sharp objects.

LOL There was a certain type of young associate at my law firm (not all, but too many) and when some hapless secretary was having a really bad day with “him” (women associates presented other problems) I would stop by the [inevitably older, female] secretary’s desk and mention :

Did his mother know he was wearing long pants… and maybe we should write home about him.


5. marisacat - 13 February 2011

Some twit on Gwen Ifill’s PBS show, (Washington Week, I think) Yochi Dreazen of the National Journal, is saying that we hardly know the older officers… “like Tantawi” who were “Soviet trained”

Angry Arab this am:

Tantawi receives his orders

“Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Saturday telephoned Egypt’s new military ruler Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, the Israeli news site Ynet reported.”

Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 8:09 AM

LOL Tantawi would be d e a d like Patrice Lumumba, if we “did not know him”, and know him well.

But then Gwen tried to say on Charlie Rose, shortly before inauguration, that “no one in Chicago even knows Obama”, he was so not involvd in “Chicago politics”.

6. mattes - 13 February 2011

Threats, threats. Obama IS off script.

Wonder if Hillary & co. are planning coup. HGB. Hillary/Gates/Biden, lol.

Deep US-Saudi rift over Egypt: Abdullah stands by Mubarak, turns to Tehran

Debkafile’s intelligence sources add that replacement aid for Egypt was not the only card in Abdullah’s deck. He informed Obama that without waiting for events in Egypt to play out or America’s response, he had ordered the process set in train for raising the level of Riyadh’s diplomatic and military ties with Tehran. Invitations had gone out from Riyadh for Iranian delegations to visit the main Saudi cities.

Abdullah stressed he had more than one bone to pick with Obama. The king accused the US president of turning his back not only on Mubarak but on another beleaguered American ally, the former Lebanese Prime Minister Sa’ad Hariri, when he was toppled by Iran’s surrogate Hizballah.

Our sources in Washington report that all of President Obama’s efforts to pacify the Saudi king and explain his Egyptian policy fell on deaf ears. Arab sources in London reported Tuesday, Feb. 8, that a special US presidential emissary was dispatched to Morocco with a message of explanation for the king. He was turned away. This is not confirmed by US or Saudi sources.

The initiation of dialogue between Riyadh and Tehran is the most dramatic fallout in the region from the crisis in Egypt. Its is a boon for the ayatollahs who are treated the sight of pro-Western regimes either fading under the weight of domestic uprisings, or turning away from the US as Saudi Arabia is doing now.

This development is also of pivotal importance for Israel. Saudi Arabia’s close friendship with the Mubarak regime dovetailed neatly with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s alignment with Egypt and provided them with common policy denominators. The opening of the Saudi door to the Iranian push toward the Red Sea and Suez Canal tightens the Iranian siege ring around Israel.


marisacat - 13 February 2011

Here is the link to the actual diary, by Oui.

mattes - 13 February 2011

Ops, wrong link.

This is interesting:

The next question is when will Washington open a dialogue with Hamas and perhaps with Hezbollah? Both are defined as terror organizations, but after failing to obtain peace agreements between Israel and the Palestinians, and between Israel and Syria, will do whatever is necessary to at least take control of managing the conflicts in order to prevent a decline into violent confrontation.

In Palestine and Lebanon, as in Afghanistan, organizations dictate state policy; as in Afghanistan, if the United States wants to maintain a proper relationship with Syria – and it does – it must recognize Lebanon’s new government, which is dependent on Hezbollah’s partnership. It also will be unable to provide a convincing argument for being willing to accept an Egyptian democracy that includes the Muslim Brotherhood while opposing the participation of the democratically elected Hamas in the Palestinian leadership of a state that has already been recognized by quite a few countries. It is often said that in the Middle East, anything is possible; judging by America’s behavior toward Egypt, one can say the same thing about U.S. policy.

Netanyahu can continue to rely on luck and to hope for another revolution in the Middle East to divert attention away from Israel. Indeed, Israel will presumably cease to interest the Obama administration, since new clients are coming forward in the region. In order to reassure them, Washington will have to review its relationship toward them and work to deepen ties, mainly in order to maintain its status in the region. Being too close to Israel, Obama has learned, is no guarantee of this status.

Ha’aretz op ed

Will O do an end run around Bibi?

Panic in tel aviv for sure. Will Hillary go along?

Wonder what black dress the Zionists will come up with this time. Maybe there isn’t one.

mattes - 13 February 2011

Ops again. Forgot headline for article above:

When will Obama start talking to Hamas and Hezbollah?
It is often said that in the Middle East, anything is possible; judging by America’s behavior toward Egypt, one can say the same thing about U.S. policy.

O needed a good reason for opening up dialogue with the double Hs. Now he has one. Better to open dialogue with revolutionaries, than letting them take over completely. Cold shoulders with these governments has not worked. Just inflamed the middle east even more.

No wonder, Cheney did everything in his power to demonize Al jazeer. He saw the writing on the wall, freedom and truth would be revolutionary. And would not benefit his buds with military contracts.

Al jazeer redemption:

Desert Peace dot WordPress link

diane - 13 February 2011

If I’m not mistaken I seem to recollect that Oui is the same person as creve co??? (had an “e,” and subsequent “r,” in the ‘last name’) who posted at the orange prostitute.

I always liked that person’s writings.

gotta run, hugs,….can you wish my family and me, luck? ….thanks!


mattes - 13 February 2011


diane - 13 February 2011

thank you honey… ;0)

diane - 13 February 2011

….before I take off, have to say, I sure wish Sully, et ilk were gone, as in gone …….I hate those nagging feelings, but I trust, if it can be done, the wee peeps of misr may be able to do it, all my thoughts with them in that regard ……..

marisacat - 13 February 2011

can you wish my family and me, luck? ….thanks!

Good luck dear…..


diane - 13 February 2011


ts - 13 February 2011

Best wishes and 1000 years good luck!

ts - 13 February 2011

You’re gonna blow up your ;0) key on that one. ^_^

diane - 15 February 2011

(space restraints ;0( )

Oh honey, I think you helped tip the luck scale in my family’s favor. Who knows, it looks like we may even be able to have a bit of a fish ‘frah’ :0) :0):0):0):0):0):0):0):0)! ;0)

(and many hugs to all other well wishers! …… I know there are some ‘sneaky,’ shy, and quiet rascals out there too.)

7. mattes - 13 February 2011

If only…..maybe, there isn’t only one way to skin a cat, two cats at once even:

Obama may limit tax breaks for rich

In the president’s past two budget requests, he called for limits on the value of itemized deductions for those in the top two tax brackets. That would include deductions for mortgage interest and charitable contributions.

The Congressional Budget Office last year estimated that such a proposal could raise nearly $300 billion over 10 years.

If the same proposal is included in the president’s 2012 budget request, that will make it easier to show that his blueprint for the next decade is fiscally responsible because the additional revenue could be used to reduce the deficit or pay for new investments.


Hope he means non-profits, instead a of charitable organizations. That scam has gone on too long.

8. marisacat - 13 February 2011


Maybe either or both of them could learn a word or two of Spanish. Ooops – too much trouble!

9. mattes - 13 February 2011
mattes - 13 February 2011

Fed Video to commemorate Benie’s printing of new money and trying to gut Social Security yet again:

10. BooHooHooMan - 13 February 2011

Via Haaretz

Report: Palestinian cabinet to resign in wake of Mideast turmoil

Source tells Reuters ‘massive change’ expected in the composition of President Abbas’ government; negotiations to start with Palestinian factions ‘immediately.’

Don’t we have a Fainting Couch Brigade buried somewhere in the Black Budget?

Nick! Louie! Rocco! You’re UP!
Every Sofa must GO!! Same Day Delivery!
AND GOD NO! We’re NOT throwing in ANY PERSIANS!

11. Madman in the Marketplace - 13 February 2011

Italy: Bad Day for Sultan Berlusconi as Millions of Women Demand He Resign

“If Not Now, When?” was a national demonstration of Italian women, against Berlusconi and, to put it bluntly, his porno-democracy. The demo had other slogans as well: Resign! Basta! I don’t give up! ADESSO, NOW!

A flash mob in 280 cities of Italy and 50 cities abroad, millions of people, mostly women, but also men and children. The demonstrations have been growing in the months since Berlusconi got caught up in the sex scandal vertigo with minors, prostitutes, pimps and orgies.

A week ago in Milan, in a big rally, the prominent intellectuals in Italian public life threw themselves into the campaign: the distinguished professor and writer Umberto Eco, Roberto Saviano the star of the antimafia campaign, the judges of of the constitutional court, trade union leaders and many others. But as one of the speakers, the orchestra director Pollini remarked : Berlusconi will never step down.

Berlusconi did not leave public life. On the contrary, he sped up his counter-campaign, attacking the judges in Milan who brought the latest of many legal cases against him. He even threatened to take his case to the European Parliament and sue the nation of Italy. He organized rallies in his support , claiming that his innocent altruistic interest in young girls had been cruelly misunderstood. He also accused the investigators of orchestrating a communist-biased coup against himself as head of government.

But his luck may be turning these days, after sixteen long years of media monopoly and political domination. Even the Catholic daily, Avvenire, came out with a big editorial claiming that decent Catholic women should be in the public squares on the 13th of February. It’s rare of the Church to urge women to take to the streets to defend their dignity. Then there is the dignity of the state to consider, for the ludicrous shambles of Italian public life has become a matter of international concern.

marisacat - 13 February 2011

I love it, they really came after him!!!

I have a pic on a draft of the next post, an Italian woman out beating a sautee pan, with Silvio’s face taped to it….

Madman in the Marketplace - 13 February 2011

it would be nice to see that horrible man brought low …

12. marisacat - 13 February 2011



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