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Float 16 March 2011

Posted by marisacat in Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter.

A rainbow cloud, looking like a reclining figure, is seen over the Himalayas. Astronomer Oleg Bartunov, 51, caught the spectacle on camera as part of an expedition near Mount Everest in Nepal. The rainbow cloud phenomenon is caused by light reflecting off tiny ice crystals.

A rainbow cloud, looking like a reclining figure, is seen over the Himalayas. Astronomer Oleg Bartunov, 51, caught the spectacle on camera as part of an expedition near Mount Everest in Nepal. The rainbow cloud phenomenon is caused by light reflecting off tiny ice crystals. [Oleg Bartunov / CATERS]




1. marisacat - 16 March 2011

Democracy NOW!

JUAN GONZALEZ: And Peter Bradford, in terms of the—some of the statements from the nuclear industry that this could not happen here in the United States, obviously as the Obama administration and others in Congress are seeking to ramp up the development of nuclear plants here in the United States, your response?

PETER BRADFORD [formerly of the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission]: Well, the statement, “This could not happen here,” has a troubled history in the nuclear industry.

The Soviet Union came to Three Mile Island and said that accident can’t happen in the Soviet Union. And of course they got Chernobyl. The Japanese, among others, went to Chernobyl and said, “Oh, we don’t have that kind of reactor in Japan,” so now they have this.

I mean, of course it’s true that particular nuclear accidents are somewhere between unlikely and simply will not repeat themselves from one decade to the next, but the underlying problem of regulators and plant builders, plant operators, deeming certain events to be impossible and therefore not something that has to be designed against and guarded against, it does seem to have a way of recurring at long intervals and rarely, thank heavens. But if you see the sentence “This cannot happen here” in that context, you ought not to believe it.

2. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011

Brinn mentioned Floyd in the last thread … been much on my mind lately too.

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011
4. marisacat - 16 March 2011

moiv just sent me this:


0357: US government authorises voluntary departure of family members of embassy staff – Reuters, quoting state department.

0355: Pressure is rising again at Reactor 3, the power station operator says – Reuters. That reactor includes plutonium and uranium in its fuel mix.

0352: The temperature of Reactor 5 is now a growing cause for concern, a Japanese official reports. “The level of water in the reactor is lowering and the pressure is rising,” he says.

… and this at 4:01

0401: Ceiling of Reactor 4 reduced to frame, power station station operator Tepco says – Kyoto,

BooHooHooMan - 16 March 2011

Strictly Voluntary. 🙄

People, Please don’t trample the Ambassador on the way out.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011
marisacat - 16 March 2011

There is an absolutely terrifying article at C-punch, a site in N Carolina, that stores itw own spent fuel rods AND all of that from two others.

Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011

I was horrified when I saw the sign of the Japanese reactors in question, that the spent rods were stored ABOVE the reactor, in the same vessel.

Why people think cutting costs in this area is a good idea is just beyond me.

marisacat - 16 March 2011

I’ve read that is one of the big problems (and i think with all utilities), they will cut any cost they can.

BooHooHooMan - 16 March 2011

Catching a rerun of Maddow…she has an epidemiologist on from North Carolina..the guy was awful.. Dr. Unlikely Thisenthat , when asked about whether people should take iodine he said they should “follow authorities instructions”. And while Maddow has been good on explaining nuke plants and even handed in discussing fallout, she like the other American media have all gotten the memo wrt Chernobyl comparisons. Not Chernobyl! Whole lotta room between Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, ya know!

God forbid anyone extrapolate the implications of this certain provincial Chernobyl following a rout in Afghanistan.

Madman in the Marketplace - 17 March 2011

yup, he came on right after I posted … he was pretty horrible. Most of her guests have been pretty good.

ts - 17 March 2011

In the US, it won’t be an earthquake, The Davis-Besse plant nearly had a meltdown just because its operator didn’t do required safety inspections, and they discovered that the vessel head (which it apparently bought second hand) had almost corroded through and caused a critical failure.

Then three years later they found cracks in a quarter of the control rod drives which are critical to the containment system.

Lying bastards worldwide, but here we have cheap lying bastards.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

It sounds like (from a friend whose brother was onsite reactor construction for some years and is in email with others who were as well…at the moment) that the Japanese have been cheap as well.

They stored spent fuel rods over the reactor in Unit 4.

They need to seal it.

The most revealing pictures of the site should scare anyone to death. It is shreds.

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011
7. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011
Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011

I needed a break from all the gloom. Found at Boing Boing.

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011

btw, I love the photo on the last post.

marisacat - 16 March 2011

oh I did too… I went thru a lot of Japanese prints to try to find the one the photo made me think of, but could not find it. I wanted to add it to the bottom of the very small post.

Loved taht she had a pet carrier too…

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 16 March 2011

Japan Earthquake Swarm Google Earth Animation

This video is the best illustration I’ve seen of the amount of seismic activity the Japanese have had to endure this week. I wonder how much longer this is going to go on. Between the quakes and the nuclear disaster there it’s just horrifying to imagine what the people of that country are going through right now.

10. mattes - 16 March 2011

…alternative news. some experts saying this could be 100 times worse than any other incident. And radiation could get to NW coast within 10 days.

Buy kelp tabs…it’s no fun having a bad thyroid…

They showed two dogs huddled together. Had to turn it off.

Volunteers working on stopping the dolphin kill all got out.

But when it goes into the water supply underground and ocean, what will happen to the mammals and fish?

mattes - 16 March 2011

Now, both oceans and great lakes are screwed. Poisoning every water supply.

Heard of fraking? Causing earthquakes in the midwest. Lots of nuclear plants there…and fraking poisons wells.

Now they are going to start fraking in north or south dakota…wherever that oil is.

marisacat - 16 March 2011

the dogs were rescued and taken from the affected area… The one was staying with and caring for the injured dog…

mattes - 16 March 2011

I could not watch it. I hope they are warm and safe now.

marisacat - 16 March 2011

I almost turned it off, but then it quickly moved thru to the conclusion.

BooHooHooMan - 16 March 2011

It is horrific.

The thing I find most disgusting is how the US and EU are moving with all speed to throw Japan under the bus. Oh Kan and his government turds, they are what they are…a reflection of US. Which, cruel irony ad infinitum – we extorted as we’ve done with all brought to heel: via demonstrable threat of nuclear annihilation.

marisacat - 16 March 2011

I agree on the tossing Japan under the bus… we are very anxious to get on with it. And all this balderdahs of US, the USofA ffs!! calling out Japan for a lack of transparency (of course ti is true, but not exactly novel or new).

Us of all people. We are just using it.

mattes - 16 March 2011

Who is the insurer?? And who is making money off this? They have to have known this was going to happen.

There was a diary on DK that said several engineers left the company because they had problems with the design.

Insurance company is going to fight this.

There are people on the radio saying absolutely NO danger farther than 100 miles.

marisacat - 16 March 2011

There has been reporting and information going back years coming out on this reactor. A lot in the UK press…. esp over the past couple of days…

One thing, it, Fukushima, was supposed to be decommisioned as of this year, but instead had just been recertified for 10 years, but from wht I read that is going on all over the world. Some recertifications of old installations are happening for 20 years. Just a matter of time, as i see it.

Same old same old, like Ob Admin and BP (and so many ohters), collusion between TEPCO and Japanese government. And whoever else.

Hell the legal wrangling may last as long as the radiation.

And so very many dead.

mattes - 16 March 2011

OMG, no wonder they don’t give a damn:

Insurers said they did not expect to absorb the cost of earthquake-related damage to the nuclear power facility 240 kilometers north of Tokyo that has stirred fears of a leak of radioactive material across the region.

“Any impacts due to major accidents in Japanese nuclear power plants will not significantly affect the private insurance industry,” Munich Re said.

A person familiar with the situation said nuclear plants in Japan are covered by a domestic insurance pool, which excludes both earthquakes and tsunamis from its property and liability policies. That would suggest Fukushima operator Tokyo Electric Power Co or TEPCO may not be covered for the results of the accident.

But Chaucer Holdings Plc, one of the world’s biggest insurers of nuclear risk, said it did not expect any big claims because the Japanese Nuclear Act of 1961 absolves nuclear plant operators of liability from damage caused by major natural disasters.


mattes - 16 March 2011

It could be us tomorrow. I saw a US map with 104 plants….scary.

Like I said before, I just found out a Michigan Lake plant dumped 10,000g of dirty water. Who knows what’s really in those lakes.

I was involved in exposing another big polluter on the lake. Can’t talk about it. The plant closed. Big plant. So polluted. My younger brother just had to have his whole prostate gland out, cancer…..way young, in shape, eats nothing but a healthy diet, works out almost everyday.

Other younger brother, wears a colostomy bag. Another health nut.

marisacat - 16 March 2011

23 of those plants are of roughly the same design as Fukushima. The Mark 1 Boiling Water

TVA has applied to use MOX, mixed oxide, in a Savannah River plant (No Carolina) and so on.

BooHooHooMan - 16 March 2011

I’m so sorry to hear that, mattes.

It’s going to come down to this: VIOLENCE.
Making a list checking it twice, having something for the naughty and sparing the nice.

There WERE NO Unions, no minimum wage, no modicum of safety regulations to game, no fuckin nothin of our much vaunted ‘Progress’ in the U.S. without a series of events we all know from Homestead thru Haymarket to the shooting of Frick to armed marches to clubbing and shooting back at Flint and beyond. Just wasn’t.

mattes - 16 March 2011

BHHM, my brothers problems were not as a direct result of that one plant, but the whole area is very polluted. We all ate fish from the lakes, and drank the water. Plus, so many other polluting companies here. Of course, they mostly now gone.

Of the company I found out about….I’ll say this much. Rusted barrels of poisons were buried on beaches. With next to no protection.

BooHooHooMan - 17 March 2011

I understand, problem is sytemic tho.
Epidemiology is a political arm of our corporate government, synonymous with government funding. I am speaking to this on a systemic level. Women riddled with cysts in oh so safe Central Pa, five who I knew, three who died, all young women within the ten mile ring of during TMI, no Family history of cancer, no neurotoxin exposure or drug use: all, ahem, anecdotal. Many others of these …”anecdotes” left to oral history or obscure footnotes. We know we are being lied to here, just like they know in Japan.

I can scream at media charachterizations of TMI 30 years on. People forget, after all the disinfo, Carter was forced to visit the plant to put down the panic. Which let’s face it was mostly for national and international consumption lest markets freak or Uncle Sam be asscoiated with a meltdown. A term they did not cop to in real time. And the estimates of evacutions is absolute disinfo that is maintained to this day. At least 150,000 left the Harrisburg Hershey, York, and Lancaster areas alone. Main Liners could be found with people from Upper Darby, or Southwest Philly, well heeled Baltimoreans and lunchbuckets from Wilmington having traveled across Maryland were at Turnpike Rest-stops at Breezewood and Monroeville heading west as the Susquehanna flowed into the Chesapeake.

I digress. Too many…” anecdotes”.

mattes - 17 March 2011

Yes. Frustrating.

Our leaders are owned by banks and Stock Market.

It’s up to the the next generation to figure it out. But, with the dumbing of americans, I don’t think this country will have any answers.

Finally watching Rachel.

11. mattes - 16 March 2011

Just an FYI:

…Spirulina (5-10 grams/day)
Klamath Lake Blue Green Algae (Aphanizomenon Flos-aquae
(AFA)) E3 Live
Bee Pollen (2-5 Tablespoons/day)
Sea Vegetables
Kelp, Dulse
Sodium Alginate (naturally present in kelp, arame, wakame,
kombu, and hijiki)
Chlorophyll-Rich Foods
Siberian Ginseng
Miso Soup
Reishi, Shitake, Maitake, Agaricus, Lion’s Mane
Mushroom Complexes
Hydrated Bentonite Clay shakes
Edible Clays
Liquid Zeolite

Potassium Iodide to protect thyroid (only in a nuclear event)
Zinc (supplement, and/or eat pumpkin seeds)
Selenium (supplement, and/or eat brazil nuts)”

mattes - 16 March 2011

Another for those interested:

The Pacific Northwest is NOT expected to receive any radiation from the Japan tragedy. We do, however, have daily exposure to radiation in our environment. More can be found here:

Times like these are a great opportunity to take this raised awareness to make preventative change in your life and strengthen your thyroid function with diet and lifestyle. Kelp in the diet can be introduced through your beverages, with loose kelp, sea weed salads and soups and your seasoning with your cooking. Breathing exercises that strengthen the thyroid:


wu ming - 17 March 2011

i stopped by the local asian grocery, because i had run out of kombu for making miso soup, and the korean lady at the counter asked me “for radiation”? i was like “um, no, for soup.” apparently several white folks had come in and bought up a bunch of kombu kelp earlier that day.

i wonder if people are gnawing on it raw, or whether they know how to cook it? it makes a very nice broth if soaked and brought to near-boiling.

12. BooHooHooMan - 16 March 2011

What are the Banks up to?

5 Dollar ATM fees. JP Morgan Chase leading the way.

Any recommendations if one was interested in purchasing a sniper rifle? And in all that relentless roll back of regulation over the years, is kidnapping still illegal?

BooHooHooMan - 16 March 2011

Which gives me an idea.
Ya know, to spur “The Recovery” gurgle gurgle..

Open a rifle and the like RENTAL store, like when you need do-it-yourself construction equipment..

Will you be needing this for an hour to take down a minor functionary? Or perhaps you are interested in our 3 day Special with extra equipment. Is there a CEO security detail involved? The back-hoe?? Oh no, that’s not for body disposal, it’s rented to Fred Clavin who is putting in a pond this weekend.

13. marisacat - 17 March 2011

Aaron Datesman over at Tiny Rev has a couple of posts up on archived material of anecdotal, recollections of people who lived near TMI on that day…:

We stayed in the house. It was blue. You couldn’t see anything or nothing. And we were scared. Everything was blue. Everywhere was blue. Couldn’t see the buildings or anything. It was just heavy blue all that time. We closed up our doors. We stuffed rags underneath the door so this wouldn’t come in. But I think it was all the way in.

And we stayed there. It was a warm day. It was a hot day. It was so hot. We shut all the windows and all the doors and we stayed inside. And about nine [a.m.] we listened to the local radios. But they wouldn’t say anything. They were only playing Dolly Parton’s music.

And he adds this:

Unfortunately, the explanation is actually more terrifying. The fission reaction utilized by a nuclear reactor releases several million electron volts (MeV) of energy per fission in the form of gamma rays – that is, in highly energetic photons. Gamma rays interact with matter by a process known as Compton scattering. You are welcome to Google on this topic if you like, but the basic takeaway is that energetic photons are able to strip electrons away from neutral atoms – in this specific case, from nitrogen atoms in the atmosphere. When the free electrons reunite with nitrogen ions, they emit blue light.

Therefore, a plausible physical explanation for what happened to Marie Holowka is that she was bathed in a field of gamma rays so intense that it literally TURNED THE AIR BLUE. It is conceivable – but impossible to prove – that the source of these gamma rays was fissionable material released from TMI which settled on her farm as a cloud of fallout.

BooHooHooMan - 17 March 2011

THANK YOU for that!
That’s EXACTLY what was going on.
I came from a large extended family, Lancaster, Harrisburg, Camp Hill, Hershey, York… I had planned to stay from Christmas thru Spring as my Father was in and out of Harrisburg Hospital at the time. The TMI happened. No doubt about it, it was terrifying.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

Oh glad you liked it… Datesman links back to the online archival collection.. He actually has two posts up on it.

We’re screwed…

BooHooHooMan - 17 March 2011

The conclusion really says it:

In the case of Three Mile Island, when the chorus of authorities began chanting “not enough radiation got out to harm to change, to notice anything,” it was particularly difficult for people to counteract this official gospel. And yet I can feel the strength of each individual’s conviction. For I have heard much more than a few times: “No one, I mean no one can tell me this didn’t happen to me. Because, I know it did.”

I have a younger family member, my late cousin’s daughter, wholly apolitical, maybe 12 when TMI happened, who has had recurring night-terrors of the Daisy Girl commercial for 20 years. Wasn’t alive when Johnson’s campaign used it on Goldwater , it was pulled after airing once, but saw it in a college course maybe 10 years after TMI as her mother had been just diagnosed with cancer. Sweet kid, she had a full blown panic attack in the classroom when viewing it in a Communications course the first time and it’s stuck with her, albeit with less frequency ever since. As near as she figures, it is somehow wrapped up with her unspoken terror as a kid while evacuating as family and friends said their goodbyes and what was developing in discussions over the etiology of her mother’s cancer.

diane - 17 March 2011

thank you for that …. no surprise ….having lived so many life forming years in William Penn Sylvania and having realized in retrospect how very abusive its absentee elite were …that the Three Mile Island (TMI) catastrophe should occur in it’s gut

heh…3.5% income tax on the elite (or has it bumped up a tad?) and the poorest of the poor … (flat income tax which only punishes those at the bottom and then, the middle) …… how many obscenely wealthy could one suppose lives there …miles away from Three Mile Island?

14. BooHooHoMan - 17 March 2011

Now for some laughter.

The William Jefferson Clinton Foundation is moving OUT of Harlem – wait for it – where else – to down off Wall Street.

If I recall correctly there was some big whoopdy doo last month or so after he renewed his lease uptown committed to stay FuhEVAH. 😆

So the money laundering operation moves downtown, while he does leave the blogger’s lunchroom in the old location on the Secret Service tab, now reduced to vending machines I suppose, (bring coin for crackers, ye crackers ) – all up in the hood. 😆

What a fucking joke.

BooHooHoMan - 17 March 2011

Good night, all.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

He’ll probably have Andy Young of ATL at his side for the ceremonial move. A glossing a blessing over it all.

A greasing more like it.

Mah friend Bihl… and his lahvely wiihfe Hillary….

So done with the story lines.

15. marisacat - 17 March 2011

NHK: recycling old news. News from our Tuesday and Wednesday. As well as in teh field tape loops.

Yesterday they were running 4 repeat loops an hour at one point.

But…. still trying with the pumps and the electrical and fly overs.


The utterly shredded state of the reactors is on photographs… from sometime Tuesday. A local physicist looked at them on camera… and said:

Looks like Chernobyl.

Now he meant destruction, visually.. but there it was.

he was an old guy who had, with 2 other physicists, blown th whistle … cannot remember if TMI or a lesser known nightmare. They were fired, in the early 70s.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

Oh NHK, “Breaking News”… working to connect power lines. Electricity by tomorrow.

When it needs to be sealed.

16. marisacat - 17 March 2011

Don’t make me laugh TOO hard.

BOB WOODWARD, during a visit this week to the Poynter Institute in St. Petersburg, Fla.:

“So much is hidden. I get up in the morning and I ask the question: ‘What are the bastards hiding?’ Not as a cynical reporter, but as a realistic reporter. People are always hiding things.”


BooHooHooMan - 17 March 2011

Oh Bob will tell I guess in time for this Summer’s beach reading…
I guess a quick opportunistic book is in the offing –

It was St. Patricks Day. The wires were abuzz. Earthquake-proof sharks in a Pacific tsunami came ashore like some important people who had talked about it over lunch were certain they might : leaving the bad taste of a half eaten old salt, a rather gassy Irish American fishingboat captain in its Jaws, they would have an Agenda. Half a world away, Police Chief Roy Scheider answered the phone. It was the President.

{raising skeptical eye}

This all sounded too familiar. It couldn’t be Quint. They had used a stunt double. Yet even the veteran Chief found it hard to believe the grim news: No, not that after political fiddle faddle that the sharks had evolved legs and were now land roving carnivores after some nuclear imbroglio, but that the President called him out of the blue to talk about a basketball tournament. There was no one else. Indeed the earnest lawman thought earnestly. Who does make it in to the Finals in the end? Who, he thought even more earnestly with a kind of serious earnestlyness the men at Langley were beginning to think themselves.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

Speaking of gassy Irish, I just read that when L’Obster goes to Ireland (May ’11) he plans to visit the ancestral home. One of them!!

17. mattes - 17 March 2011

It starts:

The United States has authorized the first evacuations of Americans out of Japan, taking a tougher stand on the deepening nuclear crisis and warning U.S. citizens to defer all non-essential travel to any part of the country as unpredictable weather and wind conditions risked spreading radioactive contamination.


marisacat - 17 March 2011

In the newest State Dept release, right after the party line of ‘go outisde of 50 miles from the source of radiation’, it says to LEAVE JAPAN.

The story is because of shortages and outages.

Yeah right.

mattes - 17 March 2011

Just heard….bits of radiation to hit cal fri.

Making my miso soup with kelp. and veggie sushi rolls. makes me feel better if nothing else.

brinn - 17 March 2011

Miso soup always makes me feel better, regardless….

Take it easy, mattes!

marisacat - 17 March 2011

Friday? The official story on time travel for detectable radiation is 4 days to the Aleuts and another 2, 3 or so to parts of the West Coast…

Counting back…………… oh I think something big was expelled on Saturday. (I am so shocked! Who would lie to us?)

The ONLY good thing is the internet and taht what exists of anit nuke or at least entities that want much much tighter regultion, will have to gear up for this, and get out whatever information they can collect. Last chance.

Good piece on SONGS, San Onofre Nuclear Generating Site…

[I] spoke at a hearing last night, near my local nuclear power plant. It was a common council hearing in San Clemente, the city nearest the reactor. I’ve posted a You-Tube video from the event.

The public speaking portion of the evening started with this author. The reactor company was allowed to speak last, for as long as they wanted. The representative explained that the reactor was built to withstand all foreseeable earthquakes in the area, and all tsunamis that they could foresee as well. And that was that. No talk of new studies, no talk of building the wall higher, nothing like that. Everything’s fine at San Onofre, according to them.

Lately at all the hearings for San Onofre, the activists have been overwhelmed by plant employees, some of whom always speak, such as the union duckie, and some of whom just clap for their team and leave when its the activists’ turn to talk.

There were NO employees making themselves obvious at this hearing, besides the one management representative. I did not see a single logoed shirt, patch, or San-Onofre beeper this time….

mattes - 17 March 2011

Employees are trained well.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

.. and too many like being thugs.

wu ming - 18 March 2011

winds are faster this time of year, apparently. the rain will tend to pull stuff down out of the atmosphere too. joy.

marisacat - 18 March 2011

oh thanks for that wu ming.

Yes we have a long weekend of rain and snow here…

brinn - 17 March 2011


nerve gas.

So many crimes against humanity, so little time.

The boys are gone, time to do some screaming/crying/raging

…not that it will help, but perhaps it will keep my head and heart from exploding …

brinn - 17 March 2011

dunno know how that ended up there…oh, well!

marisacat - 17 March 2011

the thread is probably too long, when it gets long, “replies” start landing where ever.

Off for the long version of a shower, will get a new thread up when out of shower…………..

marisacat - 17 March 2011

What ever you do don’t smoke tho. Our current Surgeon General declared a few months ago that cancer and heart lung disease can come from ONE cigarette.

Bizaar woman. Left what she was doing, providing rural care to the poor of… think it was Lousyana… to shill for Ob.

I don’t smoke, I have nothing against health warnings (tho I said in the 80s, for salt and grease, it should be on the side of most all fast food!), methods of stopping it, studies on what it or the additives do, nothing against all of it……but the frantic accusatory nightmare started at the time of ENVIRONMENTALISM

Much diversion work invested in it all.

catnip - 17 March 2011


A member of an Islamic human rights group steps on an ostrich egg with Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah painted on it next to a poster that shows the King decorating US President Obama, during a protest outside the Saudi Arabian embassy in Ankara, Turkey, Thursday, March 17, 2011, two days after troops from Saudi Arabia entered Bahrain to help the Sunni monarchy. At least five people were killed in Wednesday’s assault on the encampment of the pro-democracy protesters in Pearl Square in Manama, Bahrain as the crackdown on dissent widened under martial law-style rule in the tiny Gulf nation. The banner reads: “We will not forget those traitors!” (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)

18. brinn - 17 March 2011

We have money for sock puppets, but none for schools, health care, social security….

How much more fucked up can this country get?!

marisacat - 17 March 2011

As I used to say in the days and weeks when the US ground mil was massed at the southern border of Iraq:

Look at it. That is our health care system, the one we will never get

Wonder if we will close any of our 37, thirty seven, bases on Okinawa. (that number came from Chalmers Johnson)

catnip - 17 March 2011

Centcom spokesman Commander Bill Speaks said: “The technology supports classified blogging activities on foreign-language websites to enable Centcom to counter violent extremist and enemy propaganda outside the US.”

He said none of the interventions was in English, as it would be unlawful to “address US audiences” with such technology, and any English-language use of social media by Centcom was always clearly attributed. The languages in which the interventions are conducted include Arabic, Farsi, Urdu and Pashto.

Bullshit. Centcom had no problem sending a military hack to my blog to try to deflect criticism of sexual abuse in the military. Bunch of bloody liars.

diane - 17 March 2011

Bullshit indeed, seems pretty clear from day one that ‘social media’ has been swarming with government pretenders who aren’t usurping any real person’s identity, they’re just faking their obejectives, nothing illegal in that at all, and absurd that Common Dreams should pretend otherwise. Dkos and all it’s “blawgFather” offspring and concubines are swarming with them, like a bag of festering rotten potatoes. Not to say there aren’t decent people posting at those places, after all, they’re part of the TARGET population.

diane - 17 March 2011

its not it’s …jeesh

marisacat - 17 March 2011

oh I think it happened very early. I mean look where the funding came for ARPANET and all that came from it… and other similar projects.

diane - 17 March 2011

Bingo, only stood to reason, …the web was a DOO (Dept. of Offense) tool from the beginning, otherwise it would have never been allowed.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

It’s like the freeways.. we get to use them… but it is for moving armies. Built under Ike and under the aegis of the National Security rules….

Same as Haussmann and the boulevards of Paris.

diane - 17 March 2011

yes, the roadways ….poverty ridden urban areas are a good study of that, either confused, tangled, and near impossible to navigate out of easily, like Oakland, Cali…or lethally boxed in by the swarming traffic of the remaining employed and/or shoppers, like East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park.

diane - 17 March 2011

..the term soap job comes to mind.

my dad used to use that term …he never shared his job issues with his only daughter, the youngest…but I do know that he used to come home in emotional trauma working for the US DOO, …though he initially thought he was working for the DOD…… until it was way too late……..we inherited a ‘close up shot’ of John Fitzgerald from it ….but who cares? ….and none of us have “cashed it in” … the DOO, murdered my dad…without a trace of evidence, …. under the ‘laws’ of the “US.”

diane - 18 March 2011

(I really should clarify that it was a slow murder of the spirit, not a physical murder, as I’m sure happened to many engineers in those years ..and then call it a night and shut my mouth)

19. brinn - 17 March 2011

I am horrified, sicked, angry….

this is simply unacceptable. Again.

“We’ve gotten no help. We’ve gotten no information,” said Monma, 28, who sat cradling her thumb-sucking 2-year-old daughter on the tatami mats that had been laid out in a sports center in Yamagata, 100 miles inland, which now serves as a shelter for people fleeing Fukushima.

“The government is demanding that we don’t go out, but it isn’t bringing us anything,” Katsunobu Sakurai, the mayor of a city close to the exclusion zone, complained in an interview with the national NHK television network. “Truck drivers don’t want to enter the city. They’re afraid of being exposed to radiation…. If the government says we’re in a dangerous area, it should take more care of us!”

20. mattes - 17 March 2011


Other traders are thinking that the Bank of Japan’s sudden need for funds to intervene in this free fall – not to mention Japan’s need to rebuild after the earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear meltdowns – means that Japan will now, suddenly, become a major seller of the U.S. Treasuries it holds. That, of course, means that a major source of funding for the U.S. government’s debt has just gone dry. Worse, it is now going to be that much more difficult to sell new U.S. debt, as new auctions will have to compete with the Treasuries being sold by the Japanese.

The stunningly swift collapse of the dollar-yen market also means that many big Wall Street firms are facing massive margin calls because of the positions taken by their forex operations. There should be some interesting headlines in tomorrow’s financial press.


21. mattes - 17 March 2011
lucid - 17 March 2011

Back to Lake Michigan – what part of the lake was this on and when? I spent my childhood in lake Michigan up north near Traverse City. So this concerns me…

mattes - 17 March 2011

…wau$kegan& harbor. On dumping.

Zio$$n on water and steam releas$e

lucid - 17 March 2011

Probably got well dispersed by the time it reached the Traverse City area… doesn’t mean I won’t die from World Trade Center dust though… 😦

mattes - 17 March 2011

Thyroid is the canary.

22. marisacat - 17 March 2011

6.5 quake on or near Vanuatu

brinn - 17 March 2011

Where is Vanuatu? I know, I could google it, but am too lazy atm…

mattes - 17 March 2011

Survivor island.

brinn - 17 March 2011


I’m guessing somewhere in the Pacific?

mattes - 17 March 2011

Trying to be funny. bad. Yes, pacific.

marisacat - 17 March 2011

Part of the So seas islands, not sure who has regional rights over it… French Polynesia? mebbe… it was during th night but I jsut heard of it.

23. brinn - 17 March 2011

A brief voice of a TEPCO worker….they shut her down pretty quickly tho….

24. brinn - 17 March 2011


“Class warfare … is contrary to growth,” he said. “It might advance equality, but it doesn’t advance prosperity.”
~Paul Ryan

marisacat - 17 March 2011

hi dear link failed… jsut post the URL and I will fix (in a bit)

25. marisacat - 17 March 2011

OK.. major caveat, from Russia Today which loves to have on every sort of US dissident, hater, crazy, and of course also rational sane useful people

but i got in the middle of a

“expert” I missed his name at the beginning, not repeated at the end…

he said, spent fuel rods are stored on top, at ALL SIX REACTORS… “outside of containement”.


Oh… not to worry, reconnecting to the grid as we speak!, but oops Obby and Cam are pulling out the US nd UK rescue teams.

Ob to address the nation at 3:30 eastern.

Opp to be big pretzel!

catnip - 17 March 2011

Ob to address the nation at 3:30 eastern.

Why, oh why?

marisacat - 17 March 2011

He’s on a mission! To advise us. Failing badly.

26. marisacat - 17 March 2011



………. 8)

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