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Prime time…. 14 September 2011

Posted by marisacat in 2008 Election, 2010 Mid Terms, 2012 Re Election, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Lie Down Fall Down Dems, Total fucking lunatics.

Republican presidential candidate Texas Gov. Rick Perry reacts after a Republican presidential debate Monday, Sept. 12, 2011, in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Mike Carlson)

Unfuckingbelievable.  It seems a blatantly DUMB move.  All some supposed challenger, from Bachmann to Huntsman, to Perry to Romney to Ron Paul to Cain to whomever has to do is stand there and ask the 2010 cycle Sheryl Angle question of Reid:   

Can’t he “man-up”? (Where’s the beef?)

Outta gas, out of steam and out of time.  Out of office…

From ABC’s The Blotter:

After spending months touting the Obama administration’s decision to loan $535 million to the California solar energy upstart Solyndra, top officials took a new tack Wednesday while testifying before Congress about the company’s abrupt shut-down and bankruptcy:

the loan, they said, was actually the Bush administration’s idea.

The Energy Department’s top lending officer told Congress that the Solyndra loan application was not only filed during President Bush’s term, but it surged towards completion before Obama took office in January 2009.

“By the time the Obama administration took office in late January 2009, the loan programs’ staff had already established a goal of, and timeline for, issuing the company a conditional loan guarantee commitment in March 2009,” said Jonathan Silver, who heads the Energy loan program.

Republicans pushed back hard against this version of events, unearthing internal Energy Department emails that indicate the panel evaluating the loans had made the unanimous decision to shelve Solyndra’s application two weeks before Obama took office.

Blaming the failed loan on the Bush administration marked an abrupt turn for the Energy Department, which had championed the Solyndra loan as a model for its efforts to build a so-called “green energy” industry that creates jobs and safeguards the environment. The Solyndra loan was so central to this strategy that the administration initially planned to have Obama personally announce it, and later sent the president to the company’s solar panel manufacturing facility in Fremont, California to celebrate its work.  . . . . .




1. marisacat - 14 September 2011

BHHM left this at the end of the previous thread….


The GOP’s Plot To Take Down Obama

So they link to MotherJones, all aflutter about GOP plans in PA to allocate Electoral College votes proportional to Congressional Districts.

Yeh well,l at this point, FUCK AL GORE – 😆

A joke on so many levels.
As if it matters, notions of fair play, reform, or actual representation with the EC….ETC….. If anything, I’d say the Obsters should be fucking grateful, they might, might be able take carry Chaka Fattah’s district in North Philly. Snicker. Maybe.

Having no shame, I’ll call it now: Obby loses PA 55-45.
Hardly a stretch.
Could you imagine, tho – if this motherfucker loses California or a couple big Northeast bastardions of the Democratic Party? 😆

marisacat - 14 September 2011

and this too from the end of the previous thread:

The two big ledes on offer at the WSJ..

Stocks Ride Optimism

Bulk of 2011 U.S. IPOs Are Underwater

Come on in, SUCKERS!

2. BooHooHooMan - 14 September 2011

via Bl 😯 berg

To Save Euro, Turn Banks Into Mutual Funds: Laurence Kotlikoff

Fuck, turn ’em into a floating crap game for all I care… 😆

marisacat - 14 September 2011

I think France will nationalise their big banks…

BooHooHooMan - 14 September 2011

Inevitable it think I guess where I’m going 💡 😆 just below is why the wagon circling is going to prop our thug state up of all thug states, I don’t know…
A difficult BFM kind of a situation. 😆 😉

BooHooHooMan - 14 September 2011

Eurozone leaders reassure Greece

Lot’s of confort food available!

Massive default is best way to fix the economy

And I would heartily recommend the latter piece, it’s HERE, as is bagging the dollar-turd…I’d rec the latter piece if it wasn’t disingenuously sold as some kind of U.S. retail banking customer’s relief, if the purported reset to ensue wouldn’t involve the same bankster cherry-pick-pillaging consumers on the brink, if the default bandwagon wasn’t conjured up to let Commerical Bankster Bigs fuck the Lessers everywhere out of their CDS contract obligations when and whereever they will.

Oh there is sSUCH overwhelming SHITE about the EU, “responsible” UK, FR, DE this , profligate Greece and the lesser EU’s that… the whole game , regardless of how it’s framed in the American-teat financial press, is meant to keep U.S. of fuckin A from , poetically enough, our OWN Bankstageddon: Llike lights going out on ATM machines across the country when Mickey D’s and Gigundo Chain stores miss payrolls. Like riots with a trillion dollars in damage against commercial real estate and major retailers where goods are there for the taking.

Oh I THINK it Doesn’t matter what anybody thinks about “default” now.
Send in the Clowns, Don’t Bother……….. etc.
Epic realignment at this point.

marisacat - 14 September 2011

oh yes the framing on this side of/about Europe is highly prejudicial… we always have to paint them as the profligate idiot Yurpeeans who know nothing about the Real World, and we, naturally!, know everything about the Real World as we built it in 6 days…

Madman in the Marketplace - 14 September 2011

RFLMAO … is he seriously thinking their captive regulators will EVER do that?

3. BooHooHooMan - 14 September 2011

U.S. Blames Group for Siege in Kabul

Some Pakistani Lawrence Welk Tribute Band no doubt.
A wonnerful, wonnerful AQ splinter group, of course, but
tryin to make a name for themselves.
Why not? We’ve spawned everything else.

marisacat - 14 September 2011

The champagne bubbles were bombs. WHo knew.

4. BooHooHooMan - 14 September 2011

I like her. I do.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg evacuated from flight at Dulles

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was forced to evacuate a plane on an emergency chute due to a fire emergency on Wednesday afternoon.

A fire occurred in an engine on the plane, which was set to leave Washington Dulles International Airport en route to San Francisco at around 1 pm, reported the Washington Post.

Hang in Ruthie…

5. Ganjafied Gabacho - 14 September 2011

The Perry campaign is making some very interesting moves; beyond all the “tough talk” on librul ideas destroying ‘merikkka he stood up for educating the children of “llegals” in the debates and has come out against the border fence…a naked play for the hispanic demographic the rethugs are supposedly so at odds with?

I’m not looking forward to Pretzl Perry, but then I wouldn’t be looking forward to a second term for the Oobsters either. Basically the smoking orangutan in Kuala Lampur getting the nom would be a better situation than any of the possible outcomes we currently face

marisacat - 14 September 2011

I am sorry that Otto the predictive Octopus died. I’d vote for him. My next nom is Yvonne the runaway cow that escaped her voyage to the sluaghter house.

They both have better instincts.

Well, either Perry, who I feel plays a mixed game! or Romney is making some interesting deals. I sense a move to dump Slobster brewing. I mean a dumping by the Big Guys. Immelt, Mickey Mouse, the Green Aussie Lizard who Does Commercials, you know, that set.

ts - 14 September 2011

I’m gonna vote Peace and Freedom again next year. Don’t know who they’re running and don’t care about their platform. I just find voting for the party ironic.

Ganjafied Gabacho - 14 September 2011

I’ve written in Donald Duck since Kerry “ran”…Mickey seems a little too elitist for me…the Duck is the kind of guy I could have a beer with and since Disney is one of the votes thqt actually count throwing mine behind one of their company men might gain me some entry into the putative Duck whitehouse…

6. BooHooHooMan - 14 September 2011
Ganjafied Gabacho - 14 September 2011

They’re racing with Wall Street to see who can reach zero first…

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 14 September 2011

GG, last thread: Violence is the point.

That should replace “In Gawd We Trust” on the dollar bill.

Ganjafied Gabacho - 14 September 2011

E Pluribus Kill’em

Madman in the Marketplace - 14 September 2011

yeeee HAH!

8. lucid - 14 September 2011

More lulz from the GOSmaster…

What I love is how after 8 years, that site is still more interested in how to moderate discussion than the actual discussion

marisacat - 14 September 2011

it’s all about the policing….


lucid - 14 September 2011

I actually posted something

marisacat - 14 September 2011


The ‘beautiful people’ are more are more invested in the manner of discussion than the discussion itself. Communication is an avenue to power. So the manner in which the discussion is held & the crafted outcome of that discussion are extremely important

.with the exception of yourself… ”the beautiful people” have vamoosed, banned or otherwise…


lucid - 15 September 2011

Unfortunately, the perception of noumena has declined since the deception that noumena and phenomena aren’t identic…

Everyone wants to subdivide…

9. marisacat - 15 September 2011

Times are tough:

[O]bama’s numbers have been ticking downward for months. Even before this summer’s toxic combination of the debt ceiling fight, the S&P ratings downgrade and growing impatience with the lack of progress on unemployment, his approval was above 50 percent in just 16 states, according to the aggregated daily tracking data Gallup released in August.

His best numbers, naturally, were in the bluest states. But he was suffering there too, including in his home state of Hawaii, where he was at 56 percent (compared to 71 percent n 2009), and Illinois, where now only 54 percent of the people who sent him to the Senate approve of the job he’s doing in the White House (compared to 65 percent in 2009). The only place he remains wildly popular is in his current hometown — Washington, D.C. residents approved of him an average of 83 percent. Meanwhile, in Washington state, Obama just cracked 50 percent.

The diagnosis for the blue state blues: the economy, frustration with partisan gridlock inside the Beltway, a general anti-establishment feeling and other factors that are largely beyond the president’s control that are bringing everyone down. But for the base, there’s also the succession of heartbreaks, with the belief that Obama did not enough on health care, the stimulus, gay rights and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and anything at all on immigration reform and the rest of the liberal wish list Obama promised he’d get to in the Oval Office. . . .. .

Well whoops.

10. marisacat - 15 September 2011

mm in the John Ellis political news email:

The Sunday Times of London reports that, according to a Goldman Sachs report, the US will become the world’s top oil producer in 2017.

brinn - 15 September 2011

New source = scraping the slime off of our politicos and financiers??

If so, I could believe that in a heartbeat!;)

BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2011

UBS rogue trader accused of $2B loss
UBS Blames $2 Billion Loss on Rogue Trader

Rogue Trader. Rogue Trader.
Roger. Roguetrader, that is, the fellows name coincidentally enough.
LOL. ANYWAYS – that roguetrading time again.
Where, amidst Systemic Fraud , Theft, Embezzlement , Old lady purse snatching , Candy-from-Baby beating and otherwise unwelcome forms of “client focused” rumbuggerry, we got a “rogue” trader poppin up. Yep, just sorta popped up there at UBS with the whole rogue-y runnin amok thing . GMAFB.

Gad knows whats going on at derivative desks…

Debt crisis ‘in dangerous new phase’ warns IMF chief

International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde
Central banks agree to pump dollars into eurozone as Christine Lagarde warns US could wreck recovery 😆

A little candor, that last bit…….

BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2011

whoops, wrong place.

marisacat - 15 September 2011

I want to steal 2 billion… I don’t understand why it is not happening. OR, be the single signatory on 4 million political accounts… with no oversight.


11. Ganjafied Gabacho - 15 September 2011

Why Doonesbury isn’t in the Chicago Tribune this week

Utterly pathetic and transparent sophism, but then again not at all suprising…

marisacat - 15 September 2011

Jesus… I did read some mention of that. I think even La Palin herself would say, print it. Who cares. (Althought I think Trudeau himself is an asshole, but who cares)

Ganjafied Gabacho - 15 September 2011

Incredible, really to censor a comic strip and then claim libel concerns..as if there’s an US editor who doen’t know the ramifications of Fallwell v. Flint

Trudeau is an asshole…

12. Ganjafied Gabacho - 15 September 2011

The headline says it all:

National Guard’s use on border worrisome, feds report

The lack of a comprehensive security strategy for the U.S.-Mexico border hampers the ability of the Department of Defense to make the best use of guardsmen assigned to help the Border Patrol, a federal report says.

The new report by the Government Accountability Office also says defense officials are “concerned about ‘mission creep’ ” because border security is not a core mission of the National Guard.

The GAO report comes after last week’s announcement by Homeland Security officials that they would extend the current National Guard border mission for another three months. It is the second mission extension for the guardsmen since the current border assignment began in July 2010.

The current border mission is the second time in the last five years that guardsmen have been sent to the border. In Operation Jump Start of 2006-08, as many as 6,000 soldiers were stationed along the U.S.-Mexico border. There are now 1,140 guardsmen along the border, with about 500 in Arizona.

The two missions have cost $1.35 billion, the GAO reported. The latest extension is expected to cost $35 million.


The Border Patrol is better staffed than at any point in its 87-year history, and while there still is more to do, “every key metric currently available shows that these border-security efforts are producing significant results,” Homeland Security spokesman Matt Chandler said in an email response to questions about the report. (I say their lower “metrics” are more due to the fucked US and AZ economies-GG)


The GAO report highlighted several other concerns raised by the Department of Defense and other federal agencies about the National Guard on the border:

• Militarized border – Having the National Guard on the border creates a perception of a “militarized” border, officials from the Departments of State and Defense told the GAO, “especially in light of efforts by the State Department and the Department of Justice to help support civilian law enforcement institutions in Mexico to address crime and border issues.”

“Civilians may not distinguish between guardsmen and active-duty military personnel in uniform,” Defense officials told the GAO.

• Expanded patrols by the Guard would be manpower-heavy – Asked to assess the viability of expanding Guard duties to include patrols in high-trafficking areas, the GAO found it would take twice the people because Guard soldiers must work in pairs, whereas Border Patrol agents can work alone.

• Toll on National Guard – Having so many guardsmen tied to one mission reduces their availability for other missions, such as helping in natural disasters, defense officials told the GAO. And use of out-of-state guardsmen for long-term missions in involuntary status may harm future recruitment and retention.


In the Nogales sector at least these guys are a bit of a joke; they don’t patrol they just occupy a hill outside of town and maintain radio contact with BP.

BTW The Gaurd bivouacs inside Nogales at a tiny post first utilized as a camp by the Buffalo Soldiers. The barracks they used was built by Pershing’s troops when they we’re running around Sonora “looking” for Pancho Villa; much to small and retrograde so now we tax payers are paying for new, top of line digs for our boys. An acquaintance (i.e. a rethug idget I know) is a contractor building it and claims it is going to completely fill the un-used space tiny (5 acres?) post with new apartments for Gaurdsmen…

One more bit of trivia: Jazz great Charles Mingus was born in Nogales, AZ

13. Ganjafied Gabacho - 15 September 2011

Solyndra Not Sole Firm to Hit Rock Bottom Despite Stimulus Funding

Solyndra, the solar panel company whose highly publicized failure and consequent investigation by federal authorities has flashed across headlines recently, isn’t the only business to go belly up after benefiting from a piece of the $800 billion economic stimulus package passed in 2009.

At least four other companies have received stimulus funding only to later file for bankruptcy, and two of those were working on alternative energy.

Evergreen Solar Inc., indirectly received $5.3 million through a state grant to open a $450 million facility in 2007 that employed roughly 800 people. The company, once a rock star in the solar industry, filed for bankruptcy protection last month, saying it couldn’t compete with Chinese rivals without reorganizing. The company intends to focus on building up its manufacturing facility in China.


Thank you Oobster for making green energy not just a madison avenue come on but actually devalued as chinese…

marisacat - 15 September 2011

Thank you Oobster for making green energy not just a madison avenue come on but actually devalued as chinese

he really did it… one reason I think the decision to jettison him has been made. Solyndra is being covered everyday out here, morning afternoon AND evening. All thru the day… and they are linking the failire of Solyndra to now tracking other stumbling new energy alternative energy businesses. And who got how much from this administration.

The Republicans have excellent CYA, a series of emails indicating the Bush admin clearly shelved the Solyndra project before they left office. (whatever the truth is, they can wave those around)

One thing that has been known out here for years, the only market REALLY for solar has been large industrial or business installations…. like some German state wants to put solar on all their city buildings, that sort of thing… the banks for years resolutely do not extend home loans FOR solar installation. And in too many districts (Bay Area is one) selling the energy BACK to the local provider is a mess.

The other thing openly discussed here FOR YEARS is that Cali may do some small or medium sized green energy production NOW but that is not slated to last. Cali will be ownership, development that sort of thing, but there will nto be a sizable green energy production done here.

I mean, what the fuck does that tell you? early years are a con.

Coming back from the hospital the other day, I noticed that every street lamp has a tiny solar panel attached. A good idea I thought, until the entrance lights at two of my neighbors went out, they used to light their entry ways VERY well… and for some reason both entries were dark for several nights, a near the corner entrance that lit both the stairs rising to their front door and two lights up at the front door, the next house just up the street from the corner entrance… that also had well lit their doorway. WIthout those exterior house lights the blockl was in utter and complete darkness. The street lamps were on but throw no light.

Solar deficient? I don’t know… it sure was not working out.

14. BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2011

Iranian Bushehr Nuclear Plant Comes Online – World Survives

4 days ago. ….

On 12 September Iran brought its first nuclear power plant in Bushehr online, connecting it to the country’s electrical grid. Iranian officials at the opening ceremony said that the 1,000 megawatt plant has begun generating electricity at 40 percent of its capacity and will reach full capacity by the year’s end following further testing. Quite aside from demonstrating Iran’s touching post-Fukushima faith in nuclear energy despite being a seismically active country, Bushehr represents a Rorschach test of sorts for all the fears and anxieties in the Middle East, in which everyone looking at the facility has his preconceptions reaffirmed. “Axis of Evil” charter member Iran insists that Bushehr represents the government’s determination to husband is vast oil reserves by promoting other energy sources, as its economy has hammered by more than three decades of U.S.-led sanctions. Iran has been subjected to increasingly militant rhetoric from both Tel Aviv and Washington over its civilian nuclear energy program, with thinly veiled threats of possible military action if Tehran does not abandon its efforts, even though they are completely complaint under the terms of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), which Iran has signed and which Tehran pointedly underlines, it’s nemesis and harshest critic Israel has not..

marisacat - 15 September 2011

oh that explains why there has been an uptick in addled Jewish callers to my local talk radio, all manic about bombing IRan. “we must do it”.

I am so sick of Israel I could die. Talk about star crossed murderering partners, the USA!!! USA!!! and Israel.

BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2011

Yeh that and the vote on a Palestinian State…
And I know the deal with Ron Paul, GOP veal pen for strays, but d a m n , there he was in some clips I saw of the last GOP debate, spreading the (LOL – heretical?) WORD — > about 9/11 in light of US occupation in the ME and carte blanche of Israel.

And there has been a whole lot of nervous chatter about how Jewish influence will be key in 2012.
Oh just LMAO. Drudge had something about “Jewish Revenge” put Turner over the top in NY 9 ..another few pieces popped up about how the WH is and the DNC have all hands on deck now on Jewish outreach.
Fact is, the Orthodox guy LOST
in a district that is changing fast.
Asian and Latino? UP 30% a year…

Of course this is presently a minor inconvenience.
Longer term, there just isn’t the kind of EuroChristian guilt to assist the NY Ashkenazi.

15. BooHooHooMan - 15 September 2011


Europe Tells Geithner To Take His Advice And Shove It

Party over?

Morgan Stanley’s Mack to Leave at Year’s End

Not a bad time to jump after …
(what mcat calls :wink:) “the long thieving run” …

They never die tho…

Lehman Still Looms Large in Commercial Real Estate

marisacat - 15 September 2011

I Just read that Mack has joined the Huntsman team…. he has a core group of biz advisors…a nd Mack is on it.

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 15 September 2011

Taibbi: The $2 Billion UBS Incident: ‘Rogue Trader’ My Ass

Investment bankers do not see it as their jobs to tend to the dreary business of making sure Ma and Pa Main Street get their $8.03 in savings account interest every month. Nothing about traditional commercial banking – historically, the dullest of businesses, taking customer deposits and making conservative investments with them in search of a percentage point of profit here and there – turns them on.

In fact, investment bankers by nature have huge appetites for risk, and most of them take pride in being able to sleep at night even when their bets are going the wrong way. If you’re not a person who can doze through a two-hour foot massage while your client (which might be your own bank) is losing ten thousand dollars a minute on some exotic trade you’ve cooked up, then you won’t make it on today’s Wall Street.

Nonetheless, thanks to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act passed in 1998 with the help of Bob Rubin, Larry Summers, Bill Clinton, Alan Greenspan, Phil Gramm and a host of other short-sighted politicians, we now have a situation where trillions in federally-insured commercial bank deposits have been wedded at the end of a shotgun to exactly such career investment bankers from places like Salomon Brothers (now part of Citi), Merrill Lynch (Bank of America), Bear Stearns (Chase), and so on.


The only thing that differentiates a “rogue” trader like Barings villain Nick Leeson from a Lloyd Blankfein, Dick Fuld, John Thain, or someone like AIG’s Joe Cassano, is that those other guys are more senior and their lunatic, catastrophic decisions were authorized (and yes, I know that Cassano wasn’t an investment banker, technically – but he was in financial services).

In the financial press you’re called a “rogue trader” if you’re some overperspired 28 year-old newbie who bypasses internal audits and quality control to make a disastrous trade that could sink the company. But if you’re a well-groomed 60 year-old CEO who uses his authority to ignore quality control and internal audits in order to make disastrous trades that could sink the company, you get a bailout, a bonus, and heroic treatment in an Andrew Ross Sorkin book.

In other words, “rogue traders” are treated like bad accidents and condemned everywhere from the front pages to Ewan McGregor films. But rogue companies are protected at every level of the regulatory structure and continually empowered by dergulatory legislation giving them access to our bank accounts.


That means we’re probably stuck here in the states with companies like Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup, giant commercial banks in charge of stewarding trillions in client bank accounts and consumer credit accounts who also behave like turbocharged gamblers via their investment banking arms.

Sooner or later, this is going to blow up in our faces, and it won’t be one lower-level guy with a $2 billion loss we’ll be swallowing. It’ll be the CEO of another rogue firm like Lehman Brothers, and it’ll cost us trillions, not billions.

17. marisacat - 15 September 2011

Oh I can think of a shorter and more accurate read: he is IGNORED.

full text from Business Insider:

Pulitzer Prize-winning author Ron Suskind reports that at the height of the financial crisis, President Barack Obama ordered Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to devise a plan to dissolve Citigroup — a directive his subordinate ignored, the Associated Press reports.

The revelation, included in Suskind’s forthcoming book on the Obama administration’s handling of the crisis, “Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and The Education of A President,” suggest the president faced difficulty managing disparate voices in his administration.

“The speed with which the bureaucracy could exercise my decision was slower than I wanted,” Obama told Suskind, according to AP.

In the book, Geither reportedly denies he intentionally slowed down Obama’s orders or that he upset the president over his handling of Citigroup.

Suskind reportedly writes that “the Citibank incident, and others like it, reflected a more pernicious and personal dilemma emerging from inside the administration: that the young president’s authority was being systematically undermined or hedged by his seasoned advisers.”

Business Insider

18. Madman in the Marketplace - 15 September 2011

Snob has come for your unlimited breadsticks!:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Encouraged by Michelle Obama’s campaign to reduce childhood obesity, the company that owns the Olive Garden, Red Lobster and four other popular restaurant chains is pledging to cut the calories and sodium in its meals and overhaul its kids’ fare.

Darden Restaurants Inc. was unveiling the changes Thursday, with the first lady on hand to lend support.

The company will pledge to reduce the calories and sodium in all its meals by 10 percent over five years, and by 20 percent over 10 years. For children, French fries and sugar-sweetened beverages will become the exception and not the rule.

All kids’ meals will automatically come with a side of fruit or vegetables and eight ounces of 1 percent milk unless an adult requests a substitute, Drew Madsen, president and chief operating officer of Orlando, Fla.-based Darden, told The Associated Press.

marisacat - 15 September 2011

Apparently there is a weird new book out, suggesting little girls, and it is targetted for the children to read it, need to lose weight. TELLING them to diet.

Now obviously there are prblems, but we have problems across the spectrum, from hungry children to obese children, to body size obsessed children… to crazy fuckwitnut parents.

… and handing children a book teling them to diet is the wrong appraoch. But I half expect Snob to b hawking it soon.

Ganjafied Gabacho - 15 September 2011

When they pass a law banning the use of corn syrup in food I’ll begin to give anything the government has to say about what children should eat…

marisacat - 15 September 2011

I agree…

brinn - 16 September 2011

That is exactly how I feel GG — all this other stuff is such obvious bullshit…

Ganjafied Gabacho - 16 September 2011

unfortunately it looks like guv’mint might be going the other way:

A successful petition would allow the industry to substitute the phrase “corn sugar” for high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) on ingredient labels – as such, the ad campaign contends that there’s “no meaningful difference” between HFCS and other less processed types of sugar, and that the human body can’t tell the two apart.


marisacat - 16 September 2011

that ad compaign has been running out here for some time… all slap happy chatter about how sugar is sugar and the body can’t tell the difference. For years, people were afraid to even mention the words, “high fructose corn syrup” and once they did, just a few years ago, whammo as soon as the industry could, it hd a push back.

19. marisacat - 15 September 2011

Believe me, NO elected official, and of course they are all Democrats, connected to the City is admitting to this, on the record.

#18 San Francisco

See those employment numbers? Obviously Silicon Valley can’t carry this city.

Unemployment: up 4.4%

Employment: down 7.4%

Gross Metropolitan Product: down 6.1%

Home prices: down 38.6%

Employment, GMP and home prices measured from peak through Q2 2011. Unemployment measured from Q2 2008 through Q2 2011. Data provided by Brookings MetroMonitor.

20. marisacat - 15 September 2011

OK! Even tho this is an anonymos interview with a Wall Streeter and one has to make allowances for Wall St paranoia, ti is still of interest. In fact very interesting.

Wall Street Insider, the complete interview

I think the meeting referred to is the one held this summer in NYC at Daniel, the restaurant…. Daniel Boulud himself cooked that night, it was a meeting of Ob and Wall St, and interested parties…

ts - 16 September 2011

I read that, but it reads more like the author’s dialogue with himself than an actual interview.

ts - 16 September 2011

Doesn’t change the fact that they are a bunch of incompetent idiots. By plan, mind you. For example, infrastructure investment is a terrible way to stimulate the economy. But if you’re a small time Chicago fixer, that’s the only way you know to dole out political favors.

Ganjafied Gabacho - 16 September 2011

Oobsters are incompetent and that’s according to “PLAN” but I found both the author and “Wall Street” both mostly unbelievable and annoyingly pushing sub-rosa content of Wall Street’s superiority; he’s not partisan he’s “educated”. Pffft, kiss my bonus. Reads like “masters of the universe”playing games with the media. HE-MAN Shouting with his big sword over our heads, “By the POWER OF Big Bussiness!”

But the meeting and how it went down….hmmm… just smacks of truth to me because of how Obster himself appears to me….

marisacat - 16 September 2011

Yes, it – nd other things they do – is very much in line with the various gravy trains he was on in Chicago….

Ganjafied Gabacho - 16 September 2011

lol. It sounds like Jekyll and Hyde decided to have an argument…

21. marisacat - 16 September 2011



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