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Wintering 20 November 2011

Posted by marisacat in Egypt, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, Israel/AIPAC, la vie en rose, Occupy Wall Street, Pan Arab Revolt - 2011.

Flamingos gather on the coast of Nea Kios, in Nafplio, southern Greece. Flamingos use this particular wetland as a resting place during their migration south in the winter [Evangelos Bougiotis/EPA]

Angry Arab pops up with this today:

Israeli solidarity with the Egyptian (nude) Blogger

I don’t want to send that message directly to them so I will send it here. I read that a few Israeli women stripped nude in solidarity with the Egyptian blogger who stripped nude. Why do Israelis intrude into our lives? Why do you get into areas in which you are clearly uninvited and in which you are clearly unwelcome? You are such a bothersome presence. Arabs have made it very clear that they (unlike the tyrants that you like) don’t like you and don’t want you in their midst. It is none of your business what Arabs do and don’t do. Spare us your act of solidarity when you are racists who everyday in your live you take advantage of the racist system that Zionist set up for you. We don’t need your silly and fake solidarity. You are not invited to our lives and our activities. You are such an unwanted presence. Take your solidarity and go away. And stop intruding on every aspect of our lives. After we liberate Palestine, and when you are forced to live in a system based on equality (after we subject you to the same military rule that you imposed on the Arabs inside Israel), you may engage in solidarity but even then it won’t be wanted. You really are without dignity when you know full well that Arabs don’t want to do anything with you, and you keep acting like you are invited to our parties, uprisings, lives and events.

Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 7:26 AM


Oh No. Whooops.  NO. As far as I am concerned, and not knowing preciselyWHO the women are on the Israeli side, but they may most certainly stripe nude if they wish, in sympathy, support, solidarity, identification, whatever is the motivation, with the Eqyptian blogger.  Who is herself responding to repression of women under the conservative Salafi rules… and in fact in other posts Angry Arab writes of the increasing conservative Orthodox religious, on the Jewish side!, imposing separation of the sexes on public buses (women to the rear of the bus) and elsewhere. 

Perhaps the Israeli women are thinking, oh I don’t know, BROADLY.

I think it is bad business to tell women what to do, what they may or may not do, to lecture them.

Everybody is allowed personal autonomy, I don’t care how politicised a situation or a country is…. if it practicises apartheid or not.

He seems a tad obsessed:

I disagree with my feminist comrades

I disagree with Sara and other other feminist comrades at Nasawiyya who I so admire and support. It seems to me that there are so many other issues that women have to worry about in our region (and beyond) to be distracted by this sensational act by one person. If the issue is about sexual liberation and challenging the taboos of religion and state, I am all for it. But this is too shallow an act (and may even echo too many other Western shallow acts) to be taken seriously as a feminist act. Yes, of course, we need to denounce the various reactionary and right-wing voices of condemnation. But the pictures were also circulated for cheap titillation, which I guess is fine if people want to do that. But the feminist movement has other more important priorities to be reduced (or caricatured) by the exhibitionism of one woman (or man). Comrade Khodor (a progressive Lebanese) wrote a letter to `Alya’. I keep wanting to avoid this issue which is filling the pages in Arabic and English but I feel it keeps following me. There are so many other important issues. I am more worried about the status of Tunisian women after the victory of An-Nahdar: and about Western endorsement of misogynistic regime in the GCC countries. These are more serious threats to women and their freedoms, it seems to me.

Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 8:26 AM

Pity he can’t see, it is all part of a whole.  Hell it is all part of  a whole with the long suffering and, for many years now, striking Eqyptian cotton workers.


1. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011

so, it’s a “shallow act” because it’s a mere female body, is that what makes it “shallow”?

It is, as you say, all part of the whole.

marisacat - 20 November 2011

It verges on the nutty. Esp offering up what is, he thinks, more important (issues following the Tunisian election).

And so on.

marisacat - 20 November 2011

And yes the whole “shallow” thing pissed me off… it reminded me of Rudi Gernreich and his topless outfit from … was it early 60s ? (I get muddled sometimes what happened when)…. first modeled here in SF… and until a few years ago the woman who wore it, out in the open… on Marina Green or somewhere like that, was alive. She loved the day, it was a lot of fun.

Fashion is not shallow, part of a whole too.

2. BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

Well, ya got to start naked somewhere.

marisacat - 20 November 2011

That made me laugh…. 😉

BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

Who knew the Bhudda was alive and well and actually
living in New Jersey?

…and there he goes… 😉 😉

marisacat - 20 November 2011

I think he is always at the tanning salon.


BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

Always look your Bhudda Best!
– as they say in Hungary.

Anyways …jeeeziz – AA – > let it ride

Naked… anybody?… What’s not to love about that?
And who is reading deconstructivist crap while downloading the entire collection anyways? LOL. Oh fer fucks sake.

My point is this, my god, man –
if you are going to , like, all srsly go there?
So many way to play with it if you do… ** if certain men can
But….- – > Naked Israel?
Oh there’s something exceptionally lovely about that…

3. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011

87-Year-Old Woman Tries But Fails To Get Arrested At Occupy Wall Street

Her goal is to be arrested 12 times, but much to her dismay she wasn’t able to come any closer to reaching it during the Occupy Wall Street march on Thursday.

I was sure I’d be arrested today, but the cops were determined because of the bad publicity for them, to not arrest an 87-year-old woman. I said [to an officer], “What if I socked you in the eye?,” and he said, “I’d give you a free shot.”

But she was determined to do whatever was necessary to get dragged away in cuffs. So she pressed on:

“‘Well, what if I kneed you in the groin?,” and he said, “No, you’re not going to get arrested!'”

It’s probably for the best that she didn’t go after any of the cops in the end. But let’s hope she keeps up the good fight!

4. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011
marisacat - 20 November 2011

the thread is hysterical….

… and the dog does look happy.

5. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011
6. marisacat - 20 November 2011

hmm I see a headline riding at the top of BI that Bloombito is going to have a presser tonight on Terrorism.


BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

God, I so wish I had a copyright on the whole Lone Wolf Suspect
Planning Pipe Bomb Attack Taken Into Custody. deal…

What about Various Vengeful Sheep
Sneaking to Sling Up Shepherds? What about Moose Lodge of Real Moose Reconnoitered Before Boosting Caboose?
What about Lone Gunmen, – Looking For Friends –
Form Secret Society!

I mean fer fucks sake –

marisacat - 20 November 2011

The Secret Association of the Lone Wolves.

BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

Public Welcome.
Call Merle, Rita, Zeke, .Jamal, Wen- how, Wen-when, Shirley,
Fred, Mavis, Irshaad, Jason, or the couple we think are from Samoa for details.

Crackpot Luck every Friday Night.
Chicken and Waffles 1st Saturday of the month.
Beef and Beer every other…and so forth… LOL
Muslims invited. Bring your own Korean, or , ya know, whatever…
No nude photography tho! Please!

diane - 20 November 2011

thank you, you just jogged my mind, and had me laughing once again as to remembering it flit across my mind the other day, that the Lone [White House Window Shooter!!!!!] Wolf reminded me of a dkos ™ convention picture I saw a few years back, of Danny (is that right?) Boyd, with a new beard, and a skull cap.

(wouldn’t that be hilarious. I so want proof that that Lone Wolf diversion wasn’t total theatre.)

diane - 20 November 2011

(oops, meant to end the bolding after the ™.)

7. marisacat - 20 November 2011

hmmm here is one of his i had missed she is childish too!!!!

The Egyptian (nude) blogger

I really don’t want to get into this silly story which is now dominating Western and Eastern coverage of Egypt. It is most childish form or expression of sexual “liberation.” I worry about a tragic outcome to this story. I worry that her boyfriend is exploiting her for some reason. I worry that she may not be all together. Of course, people should be allowed to express themselves freely and in any way they want, but I worry that this is a story that would wind up boosting the fortunes of the Ikhwan in a conservative society. Furthermore, what she wrote about sexual liberation is very childish and shallow. But somebody needs to notify Facebook that some religious kooks started a page on Facebook and are calling for her murder. This page should be closed down. I worry that she may be in danger as it is. (thanks Laure)

Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 8:08 AM

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marisacat - 20 November 2011

wow reading ti over,

– childish,

– boyfriend is exploiting her,

– she is not all there,

– she is in danger..

Geesh is there anything he did not hit on?

Obviously she needs a husband or brother of the right faith and state of mind with her at all times. O and cover up.

marisacat - 20 November 2011

A woman at Comment is Free at the Guardian gets it.

Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011

good piece.

When the only two sides fighting are conservative – even if one of them is just conservative in appearance – then everyone loses. And women don’t just lose; they’re also used as cheap ammunition.

Boy, if that doesn’t sum up the world in general …

8. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011
marisacat - 20 November 2011

I believe it as much as I believe the loner from Idaho who may or may not have nicked some window glass on the [gasp loudly right here] private residnce level fo the WH, and presto chango over night it went to ‘took multiple shots at the WH’.

Yeah right. The shitter in the WH s no different from the shit before him, nor the one before that. Uber Alles.

This is a winner from the Gawker report:

Update: The LA Times reports that Pimentel is a “U.S. citizen originally from the Dominican Republic.”

The paper also provides this gobbledygook quote from Bloomberg, taken from from a press conference on Pimentel that he appeared at this evening:

“This is just another example of New York City because we are an iconic city …this is a city that people would want to take away our freedoms gravitate to and focus on.” Okay, so Jose Pimentel is an example of New York City! That should help tourism.

Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011

my favorite detail:

Update 2: Commenter FlowbeeBryant points us toward this tweet by Talking Points Memo Muckraker reporter Ryan J. Reilly: “Source familiar w/ case tells @TPM #FBI declined to take the #NYPD terror case several times. Bureau declining comment.”

marisacat - 20 November 2011

exactly, as a case it is not, nor was it, worth anything. But under our system he may spend his life in Federal prison.

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 20 November 2011

LOL … please vote for him again, he’s not a backstabbing corporate whore, no REALLY, he’s not!

Obama never secretly killed the public option. It’s a myth.

The proof it’s a myth? There’s no proof it’s true. That’s it.

marisacat - 20 November 2011

The Plum Line is so pathetic. It stands alone, sinking into the mud of retail politics, in bullshite doctrinaire Democratic cheersucking-up or down or however it s done.

Talk about voting against your best interests. Clue, is not just poor winger whites in the deepest parts of Mississippi, Delaware, Cali and so forth who do that.

BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

in bullshite doctrinaire Democratic cheersucking-up or down or however it s done.

… in a word, Leadership.

😆 Vote for Us!

marisacat - 20 November 2011

Vote for Us! We’re Poodles!

BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

I so enjoy that Classic of yours!

BooHooHooMan - 20 November 2011

It never fails me, either. While taking in some Ob or JoeB or Hill or Bill or Harry or Barney and so forth speechifying or the cacaphony of a talking head train wreck that accompanies it, trying to sort it all out and quickly ram it into a mental container and there it just pops into mind: Vote for Us! We’re Poodles!

It’s getting bad now. When out , it sometimes gets a hold of me and I’m , like, compelled to unilaterally mute the forced- television at whatever insufferable place among insufferable people during the insufferable mid-yipping-broadcasts. Doesn’t seem to much matter anymore. Hell, before freaked out family or groaning friends, during occasional work-with-tube luncheons, when out at local eating and drinking establishments, wherever/what have you with the shit beamed in, I jnow have these outbursts where I just commandeer whatever small kennel with television we’re in and grab the floor:
😯 _ – > You know what they’re saying don’cha?!? 😯
We’re Poodles! Vote for Us!

marisacat - 21 November 2011

It’s all gotten so nutty and the rambling packaged media chat factory discourse is so veyr disconnected, I am guessing more and more of the public ARE saying things outloud in public. Just a wild guess.

10. wu ming - 21 November 2011

so katehi is now blaming the pepper spraying ‘incident’ on fear of outside elements. the outside elements in question?

UCD alumni.

her speech to the rally tomorrow should be LULZtastic.

in other news, xeni jardin of boingboing is reporting that “One of the brave #UCDavis student journalists who covered the pepper-spraying and “Walk of Shame” is now facing punitive action by UCD.”

it’s getting hard to even comprehend the level of fail by this administration.

marisacat - 21 November 2011

I guess all those years ago Clark Kerr thought he was doing the ”right” thing too, protecting his sovereign territory from noisy loud rude people, etc… Meese coming onto the campus, walking the halls of the occupied buildings and pointing out to the cops who HE wanted arrested. (Really pisses me off Meese lives, to this day and fat white fingers in so many things… like the 9/11 Commission, for one)

S I Hayakawa rising to national importance. A fucking nut in his tam o shanter, of all looney fucked things.

Katehi needs to be driven to the edge of the continent, put on a ship home to Greece. Go away.

We don’t have enough home grown lunatics, thieves and idiiots, we HAVE to import them.

Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011

classic PR strategy … when in hole, keep digging.

11. marisacat - 21 November 2011

Yesssssssss… this does seem to sum up the cute lecturing from above…

Jane Mayer in Talk of the Town in the New Yorker:

‘Volunteers swarmed Obama campaign offices in almost every state , and placed calls to the finance chair of the Democratic National Committee. Ranchers and indigenous people-cowboys and Indians-whose lands would be affected united in opposition at public hearings. Nobel laureates denounced the project. The Republican governor and both senators from Nebraska, whose vulnerable water supply stood to be crossed by the pipeline, sided against it. So did the Dalai Lama. Meanwhile, the environmental movement was not without its own deep-pocketed heavy hitters, who now played an inside game: some Democratic funders, like Susie Tompkins Buell, the founder of the Esprit clothing company, signalled that they would withhold support from the President’s reëlection campaign. On November 6th, exactly a year before the election, the protest returned to Washington. This time, twelve thousand people encircled the White House. President Obama was reportedly out, playing golf, but the message evidently got through to him. Four days later, he issued a statement saying that the decision on the pipeline permit would be delayed until at least 2013, pending further environmental review. … [T]he Occupy movement could do worse than to learn from the pipeline protest. The difference between the focussed, agenda-driven campaign fought by the environmentalists and the free-form, leaderless one waged by the Occupiers, the historian Michael Kazin says, is that the environmentalists grasped the famous point made by Dr. King’s political forebear, Frederick Douglass: ‘Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” http://nyr.kr/rIWxzb

The Keystone project will move rght along – after election. It is all pantomime, within and without. And those wealthy long time Democratic funders are just playing games. THEY, above all others, line right up. And pungle up.

ts - 21 November 2011

Seems like the historian forgot another Douglass quote: ““If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.””

marisacat - 21 November 2011

Thanks for that, I thought it was a terrible manipulative piece. Junk.

12. marisacat - 21 November 2011

So… dow 11,000 soon?

brian - 21 November 2011

i have a bet with my friend that it’ll dip below 10000 by christmas

marisacat - 21 November 2011

Swan dive!

13. marisacat - 21 November 2011

omigod… Jose Pimentel’s mother is apologising ot the people of NY… someone stop her, she does not need to do that….

AND, fortunately, site after site, print media galore, is carrying the story that the Feds repeatedly refused to bother with such a slight nothing of a case. And IMO finally the sick dogs of the NYPD needed to give Benito Shlomo Bloombito a diversion from Occupy.

How disgusting.

America has had these plotters, nuts and mutterers, if he is even that, forever. Locally grown and imported.

14. diane - 21 November 2011

While looking for possible stillshots and news at OccupyCA regarding today’s UC Davis protest (which I found: Thousands Gather at Davis Against Police Brutality .. yayyyyyy!!!!!!), I stumbled onto this, totally beneath the mainstream radar news:

Three Prisoners Die in Hunger Strike Related Incidents: CDCR Withholds Information from Family Members, Fails to Report Deaths

Posted on November 17, 2011

In the month since the second phase of a massive prisoner hunger strike in California ended on September 22nd, three prisoners who had been on strike have committed suicide. Johnny Owens Vick and another prisoner were both confined in the Pelican Bay Security Housing Unit. Hozel Alanzo Blanchard was confined in the Calipatria Administrative Segregation Unit (ASU).

According to reports from prisoners who were housed in surrounding cells and who witnessed the deaths, guards did not come to the assistance of one of the prisoners at Pelican Bay or to Blanchard, and in the case of the Pelican Bay prisoner (whose name is being withheld for the moment), apparently guards deliberately ignored his cries for help for several hours before finally going to his cell, at which point he was already dead. “It is completely despicable that prison officials would willfully allow someone to take their own life,” said Dorsey Nunn, Executive Director of Legal Services for Prisoners with Children, “These guys were calling for help, their fellow prisoners were calling for help, and guards literally stood by and watched it happen.”

Family members of the deceased as well as advocates are having difficult time getting information about the three men and the circumstances of their deaths. The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) is required to do an autopsy in cases of suspicious deaths and according to the Plata case, is required to do an annual report on every death in the system.

Family members have said that their loved ones, as well as many other prisoners who participated in the hunger strike, were being severely retaliated against with disciplinary actions and threats. Blanchard’s family has said that he felt that his life was threatened and had two emergency appeals pending with the California Supreme Court at the time of his death. “It is a testament to the dire conditions under which prisoners live in solitary confinement that three people would commit suicide in the last month,” said Laura Magnani, Regional Director of the American Friends Service Committee, “It also points to the severe toll that the hunger strike has taken on these men, despite some apparent victories.” Prisoners in California’s SHUs and other forms of solitary confinement have a much higher rate of suicide than those in general population.

The hunger strike, which at one time involved the participation of at least 12,000 prisoners in at least 13 state prisons was organized around five core demands relating to ending the practices of group punishment, long-term solitarily confinement, and gang validation and debriefing. The CDCR has promised changes to the gang validation as soon as early next year and were due to have a draft of the new for review this November, although it’s not known whether that process is on schedule. “If the public and legislators don’t continue to push CDCR, they could easily sweep all of this under the rug,” said Emily Harris, statewide coordinator Californians United for a Responsible Budget, “These deaths are evidence that the idea of accountability is completely lost on California’s prison officials.”

(bolding mine)

marisacat - 21 November 2011

Pelican Bay should be shutdown…. not that it will be and not that it will make any difference. To say nothing of the whole of the state prison system…

diane - 21 November 2011

yup, and so Grotesque that Cali spends abundantly more on incarating, than education.

diane - 21 November 2011


diane - 21 November 2011
15. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011
marisacat - 21 November 2011

Hospital officials are insisting that Smith stop using marijuana for at least six months, undergo random drug testing, and participate in weekly substance-abuse counseling before they will consider putting him back on the list.

The country is insane. It really is.

Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011

sociopathic, violent, sadistic

marisacat - 21 November 2011

The anti drug pogrom is really ratcheting into … I dunno. It is scary as it is across the board. Propaganda about addicted babies being born in FLorida, which to its credit did try, for aI am sure a range f reasons to just prescribe and now is being railroaded.

They are shutting down, for real, on medical MJ, almost the first dispensary, grow operation that was raided (other than raids on tiny legal operations in No Cal, 12 plants no dispensary, that sort of thing, that harrassment began in 2009), almost a year ago in Marin was a strict adherent of how to do it, under the law. Next to non profit, 99 plants gown in pots outdoors in the sun on private property, out of view. A dispensary run strictly by the law, and with attention to poor patients… FULLY raided, house and garden in the middle of the night, every plant hacked off at the soil line.

BUT one of the principles is a long time advocate of med MJ… and I think that is one reason they did it.

It is beyond vicious. And people should wake up, that Holder and Slob and SNob, the Executive, the Judiciary AND the police in the US, have a working partnership with big pharma and the fucking liquor lobby….

I have grown to literally hate them. They disgust me. As much as Reagan and more than Bush, either one, EVER did.

16. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011

In NYC, Kafka-licious policies say press can avoid arrest by getting press pass they can’t get

Wired has been trying to get NYPD press credentials for freelancer Quinn Norton, who is on special assignment to cover the Occupy movement. Even before this week’s arrests, the NYPD made it clear they would not issue her credentials, as she first had to comply with Kafka-esque rules, such as proving she’d already covered six on-the-spot events in New York City — events that you would actually need a press pass to cover.

When I asked if six stories on Occupy Wall Street would count, Sarubbi said no.

I then tried to make the case that issuing press passes to legitimate reporters might help prevent arrests and prevent police from beating reporters, as happened to two journalists for the conservative Daily Caller on Thursday, and that the lack of spots until January seemed odd, and Sarubbi got angry.

“Don’t tell me how to do my job and I won’t tell you how to do yours,” she said.

Sarubbi then hung up without even a goodbye.

17. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011
18. BooHooHooMan - 21 November 2011

Well speaking of the ole “keep digging”…This latest from the
Corzine / MF Global Plunder Blunderblubblubblub,
Upon reaching the bottom, see, of the alleged 600 million missing
They done made a breakthough….to another HOLE.

A whole A-hole Hole Continuum, apparently:

MF Global missing cash ‘doubles’

The shortfall in customer cash held by collapsed brokerage firm MF Global may have doubled to $1.2bn, according to liquidators.

And while Bl 😯 berg was pulling that stupid –
almost pathetically stupid – …stunt last night…

[ WSJ ] – Mr. Jarrell, the trustee spokesman, said the latest estimate of missing funds came from a four-hour Sunday night meeting between the trustee, forensic accountants and officials at the CFTC and CME.

“It was an exhaustive meeting, and at the end of it the trustee made the decision it was his duty to disclose the number,” Mr. Jarrell said.

The announcement by Mr. Giddens may have been designed to give customers a clearer picture of where their money is 😆 and to take off some of the pressure to deliver the entire sum of the missing money immediately.

HA! A “clearer picture” of “where their money IS???”
More like where their money AIN’T. And from the way they tell it.

Well, they are loathe to note it much in US media, but the rest of palrty MF carcass is on lockdown with now less than cooperative regulators and courts in the EU.
Fuckee’d to death, Broke as shit, Croupiers there apparently have no qualms about cleaning Corzine & Co. out. Now granted, nominally US TBTF are scrounging there too, but it’s not helping them any now.

Beyond the shortfall in customer accounts, Mr. Giddens’s office said it did not have access to money that was held in foreign subsidiaries of MF Global, which are under the control of bankruptcy trustees in those countries.

“While the trustee will pursue them vigorously, it has been his experience that recovery of these foreign assets may take more time,” the office said.

….as political conditions further, yes, further deteriorate,
… as winter sets in on the Great Collapse …..

marisacat - 21 November 2011

That money is gone, holed up safe and sound somewhere….

19. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011
20. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011

OWS-inspired activism

It was only a matter of time before a coordinated police crackdown was imposed to end the Occupy encampments. Law enforcement officials and policy-makers in America know full well that serious protests — and more — are inevitable given the economic tumult and suffering the U.S. has seen over the last three years (and will continue to see for the foreseeable future). A country cannot radically reduce quality-of-life expectations, devote itself to the interests of its super-rich, and all but eliminate its middle class without triggering sustained citizen fury.

The reason the U.S. has para-militarized its police forces is precisely to control this type of domestic unrest, and it’s simply impossible to imagine its not being deployed in full against a growing protest movement aimed at grossly and corruptly unequal resource distribution. As Madeleine Albright said when arguing for U.S. military intervention in the Balkans: “What’s the point of having this superb military you’re always talking about if we can’t use it?” That’s obviously how governors, big-city Mayors and Police Chiefs feel about the stockpiles of assault rifles, SWAT gear, hi-tech helicopters, and the coming-soon drone technology lavished on them in the wake of the post/9-11 Security State explosion, to say nothing of the enormous federal law enforcement apparatus that, more than anything else, resembles a standing army which is increasingly directed inward.

Most of this militarization has been justified by invoking Scary Foreign Threats — primarily the Terrorist — but its prime purpose is domestic. As civil libertarians endlessly point out, the primary reason to oppose new expansions of government power is because it always — always — vastly expands beyond its original realm. I remember quite vividly the war-zone-like police force deployed against protesters at the 2008 GOP Convention in Minneapolis, as well as the invocation of Terrorism statutes to arrest and punish them, with the active involvement of federal law enforcement. Along those lines, Alternet‘s Lynn Parramore asks all the key questions about the obviously coordinated law enforcement assault on peaceful protesters over the last week.

But the same factors that rendered this police crackdown inevitable will also ensure that this protest movement endures: the roots of the anger are real, profound and impassioned. Just as American bombs ostensibly aimed at reducing Terrorism have the exact opposite effect — by fueling the anti-American sentiments that cause Terrorism in the first place — so, too, will excessive police force further fuel the Occupy movement. Nothing highlights the validity of the movement’s core grievances more than watching a piggish billionaire Wall Street Mayor — who bought and clung to his political power using his personal fortune — deploy force against marginalized citizens peacefully and lawfully protesting joblessness, foreclosures and economic suffering. If Michael Bloomberg didn’t exist, the Occupy protesters would have to invent him.


One of the most striking conversations I had was with an organizer at Occupy Oakland right around the time that media reports began trying to demonize the camps by pointing to the homeless contingent that had become a part of them. She reacted with scorn at the notion that there was something improper or odd that some of the occupiers would be homeless, as though they are sub-human and should be hidden. But the point she really emphasized was that one of the functions served by the Oakland encampment was that it produced its own food from volunteers in a kitchen that had been built there; they were, in essence, doing something about the problem of homelessness — by feeding them — rather than simply demanding that something be done. Before the Oakland police tore it down, the site had become its own community, existing by its own rules and outside of prevailing societal norms, and one of its functions was to feed those who had no means of feeding themselves. It did not merely complain about the prevailing landscape, but rather provided an alternative form of existence and community to the one it was protesting.

marisacat - 21 November 2011

Yes Quan was very blythe about ti all… people were referred to homeless shlters.


As if that is the same or an answer.

21. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011
marisacat - 21 November 2011

I don’t know about Baruch College but out here, it is not going to stop, nor end. Because campus protests ahve gone on for years, with a common issue of fairness and pay equity.

22. Madman in the Marketplace - 21 November 2011

What’s Good for Louis Freeh in the Penn State Investigation

It’s unclear what the choice of former FBI director, Opus Dei running buddy, and cutthroat careerist Louis Freeh to head Penn State’s in-house investigation into itself as regards the Jerry Sandusky scandal will come to mean to the people involved. It all depends on two factors:

1) How often Freeh’s finely rehearsed performance-art public morality comes into play; and

2) What result will be best for Louis Freeh, secular saint and avenging angel.

You may recall that it was Freeh who was the cilice around Bill Clinton’s upper thigh because Freeh disapproved of the fact that the president had non-Vatican-endorsed sexy time with a young woman. It was also Freeh’s FBI that railroaded Wen Ho Lee because Freeh was convinced that the Clintons played loose with national security secrets because of Chinese political contributions.

marisacat - 21 November 2011

What ever comes of it, Freeh is bad news.

23. BooHooHooMan - 21 November 2011

Sen. Schumer Urges Audit Watchdog to Act on China

A prominent senator is expected to urge the U.S. auditing-oversight agency to refuse to allow Chinese accounting firms to audit U.S.-traded companies until American inspectors are allowed to evaluate the firms’ work.

{ snicker } What a caricature.
Senator Hymie Hole lives.
Just don’t ask to see the books.

24. BooHooHooMan - 21 November 2011

Oh glue it all back together with buggle gum..

Greenberg Sues U.S. Over AIG Rescue

The suits allege that by taking a nearly 80% stake in AIG in September 2008 when it agreed to lend the insurer up to $85 billion, the government took valuable property from Starr and other AIG shareholders in violation of the Fifth Amendment, which says private property can’t be taken for “public use, without just compensation.”

Starr is seeking damages for itself and other shareholders of at least $25 billion. AIG is listed as a nominal defendant in the suits, which also seek damages for the company. A spokesman for the company declined to comment.
Mr. Greenberg, 86 years old, left AIG in 2005 after nearly four decades at its helm. Starr, which he runs, was the company’s largest shareholder until AIG’s near collapse. He has been a critic of the manner in which the U.S. bailed out AIG, the terms of the rescue and the fact that AIG was forced to sell some of its best assets to repay taxpayers.

Of course,
This shit never would have happened if Gore got elected.

“We have been very concerned about the terms of the bailout from the beginning,” said David Boies, chairman of Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, which is representing Starr.

What it tells me is they are really hitting bottom….

BooHooHooMan - 21 November 2011

Anybody interested in a shopping mall sized house?
Need an airport hanger sized hunting lodge in Bulgaria?
Anybody got any coin for uninhabitable townhouse developments in the West Bank? Anyone? Anyone?

marisacat - 22 November 2011

Boies? That’s hilarious.

25. diane - 22 November 2011

The revealing thing is, Jose Pimentel doesn’t frighten city elites. The non-violent kids in Zuccotti Park do. All that firepower aimed at young people linking arms, chanting, discussing, singing, looking to remake their world. So, who is it we must really fear?

[more from Dennis Perrin]

marisacat - 22 November 2011

oh I think poor Jose Pimentel (and his fucking nutty Catholic mother) is a sad case, as most of these poor chumps are. I think htye are watched and assessed and then, when needed, sadly entrapped.

Pretty clear the Feds wnted nothing to do with him… but the operative with an apt in harlem where he was nabbed drilling pipes for bombs sealed the case. I hope he has a halfway decent PD … at least the story is very much out there what a sham this is.

marisacat - 22 November 2011

Thank god I have no desire any longer t go t NYC, nor anywhere much at all. Short of a one way flight OUT.

Sunday morning, I spent an hour in Penn Station for my train back to DC. It had been ages since I was last there, and the changes were alarming. Cops in flack jackets with detection dogs, stopping people at random, searching their luggage and pockets while the dogs sniffed at the edges.

A video celebrating this practice continually played in the waiting area. Over and over we were told to submit, obey and not talk unless spoken to. This was for our “protection.” Any “suspicious” behavior would lead to arrest.

And most people refuse to see what this is. Rampant rolling fascism.

wu ming - 23 November 2011

if you watch the longest 15″ video of the davis pepper spray assault, that has more of the lead-in than the 8″ videos, you can see a bit better where things started getting hostile w/ the cops. a guy uses the human mike to tell the cops to leave the quad, which is theirs. the cops are not amused. then, a female student uses the human mike to respond “i think we should ask them politely to leave.” the insult of being told that the territory belonged to their students, and that they would dare tell the police to disperse, appears to be what set the mood for lt. pike, chief spicuzza (who was on site, but at a moderate distance) and the other cops.

but i don;t think that scared the cops so much as enraged them. the scared part was when the students surrounded them and chased them off the quad, after the spraying, and were clearly willing to risk taking it in the face again. those were some freaked-out faces behind those masks.

monday’s general strike should be lots of fun. either the cops stay back and let us shut the school down, or they try to stop it and fuck it up again.

26. BooHooHooMan - 22 November 2011

More rampant rolling just in..

LOL…Some really good lines in this one…..

27. marisacat - 22 November 2011



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