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Flight 27 November 2011

Posted by marisacat in 2012 Re Election, Divertissements, Inconvenient Voice of the Voter, UK.

Starlings in the dusk skies above Gretna Green morph into the distinctive shape of a dolphin which is being  chased across the sky by a whale with its mouth open
Starlings in the dusk skies above Gretna Green morph into the distinctive shape of a dolphin which is being chased across the sky by a whale with its mouth open
Picture: North News




1. diane - 27 November 2011

wow … one of those photos, that, ..even if your mind follows that pattern …you have just got to witness …to believe happened ….

personally I think it was aided … by the photo shop … but I’ve been an assholessa, more than once in my life …. so please don’t take my word for it ….. :0) ;0)

(not that anyone will ;0) … siiiiighhhhhh ;0) )

diane - 27 November 2011

I see a, gigantic, surreal Humming Bird ™, … in that photo, … too, let alone, … Moby Dick.

marisacat - 27 November 2011

The starlings make all kinds of shapes …

2. diane - 27 November 2011

Only a dark cocoon, ..before I get my gorgeous wings, …and …fly …

Joni Mitchell




3. diane - 27 November 2011

Pakistan says NATO ignored its pleas to hold off during attack that killed 24 soldiers

By Associated Press,

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan says the NATO airstrikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers went on for close to two hours and continued even after local commanders had told the coalition forces to cease the attacks.

Army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas on Monday also denied Kabul’s claims that Afghan and NATO forces received fire from the direction of the two border posts prior to the airstrikes.


This makes horrifying, insane sense to me:

The Price of Empire

Have US policymakers gone crazy?

by Justin Raimondo, November 28, 2011
Is there a single region of the world where the United States government isn’t scheming to grab more control, more influence, and have more of a military presence?

In Pakistan, a memo has been unearthed from “President” Zardari to Admiral Mike Mullen, head of the joint chiefs of staff, proposing a coup d’etat in which the military and intelligence chiefs would be replaced – with US “political and military support” – in favor of individuals more compliant with the American agenda. Also in Pakistan: an outright attack by US and Afghan forces on a Pakistani military base, a “mistake” in which 28 Pakistani soldiers were killed.

Is the United States government actively trying to destabilize Pakistan – in order to be able to pull off a “coup” and move in with US troops in support of “democracy”? Are we, in effect, at war with Pakistan? Sure seems like it.


(some bolding mine)

marisacat - 27 November 2011

Is there a single region http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Unified_Combatant_Commands_map.png of the world where the United States government isn’t scheming to grab more control, more influence, and have more of a military presence?

Be nice if people figured it out. What do they think all the bases are for? But it seems to be a deeply held secret that the American people – too many of htem – REFUSE, resolutely and every day, to face, that the US and its people will be bled dry for war and for global dominance.

Talk about a downward trajectory. Greased slide to hell.

diane - 27 November 2011

so totally screwed by Sadist Lunatics ….

(not sure why the President link didn’t work, maybe the placement of the qutation marks: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GV7gyZQumEsJ:www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/19/pakistan1+Zardari+“Mr+20%”+site:guardian.co.uk&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us …. and I probably should’ve added a more link, at the bottom, it’s a ‘meaty’ read.)

marisacat - 28 November 2011

That was a good piece from Raimondo… I hadn’t bothered with him in years, it will remind me to drop in and check to see what articles are up from time to time.

diane - 28 November 2011

I usually run across Antiwar.com pieces (as I did that one) at the, news now site.

This one, Fearing the Reaper (Drone), by Kelley B. Vlahos, was a worthwhile read too.

4. Ganjafied Gabacho - 28 November 2011

A top adviser told the Globe that the new district in which Frank would have had to run next year was a major factor in his decision. While it retained his Newton stronghold, it was revised to encompass more conservative towns like Walpole while losing New Bedford, a blue-collar city where the Democrat had invested a lot of time and become a leading figure in the region’s fisheries debate.

Frank’s campaign manager last year said his withering 2010 re-election effort spurred the congressman to think seriously about retirement, even saying a few days after the election that it would be his last one.

Frank wanted to announce that this would be his final term immediately afterward, but decided against it, said Kevin Sowyrda, the campaign manager.

Bean-town Globe

Yeah the redistricting is killing them Dems 😆

In other nooze the Gabachos broke their wheel bearing, cv joint and caliper bracket (?!!??!?!) just east of Amarillo and skidded to a stop at the “Jesus IS LORD, not a SWEAR WORD” truck stop just east of town. No lie. Written in big red and black letters on every blank white surface of the buildings, Gas pumps, roof lines, tow trucks, propane tanks, etc (…the Gabachos are now hiding out in a local motel waiting for “parts”)

marisacat - 28 November 2011

omigod… stay safe. And if asked, why, Jesus is LORD and God. Holy Ghost too!

Good bye Barney. I am glad to see him go.

There is nothing that can happen, no boogeyman held up, no threat no warning that can make me care anymore about any Democrats. Even as I admit there is a small number who probably do try. But so few, it does nto matter.

Bye Barney. Who imo never tried. He just liked to rant.


marisacat - 28 November 2011

Oh PS, think that brings to 18 the retiring House Dems.


Ganjafied Gabacho - 28 November 2011

Xactly. I find myself humming that old song “na na , hey, hey goodbye”

I hope Sanders decides to quit too, Get rid of the all beards and let all the Dems come out as little baby fascists…

BTW I found a youtube video of the truck-stop

its a little dated; They’ve managed to paint more scripture and praise since they’ve made the vid…

marisacat - 28 November 2011

Oh too funny!

I cannot believe you broke down at a Xtian Truck stop and gas station. What godawful luck, so to speak. I hope the garage is a decent one.

5. Ganjafied Gabacho - 28 November 2011

The garage seems to be alright…the funniest thing is that just before the right front wheel decided to spontaneously half break off (it’s cantilevered off of perpendicular to the road by about 20 degrees) I began to sing my Raven spirit song and was finishing the fourth repetition when the car suddenly lost control…I swear my Animals always take care of this heathen and his kith and kin…Babe’olicious caught a ride with the biker/ex-meth head/ christian manager of the truck stop to our motel while I rode with the tow truck driver…evidently Babe let this nice lady know that our version of christ is a black transgendered welfare mom on her tenth abortion and that my pagan prayer song is what saved our hippy asses…the lady just said “the lord works in mysterious ways” Babe told me she nearly had to pinch herself to not laugh in the nice lady’s face…

6. Madman in the Marketplace - 28 November 2011
marisacat - 28 November 2011

we are so screwerewredddd

7. Madman in the Marketplace - 28 November 2011
8. Madman in the Marketplace - 28 November 2011
marisacat - 28 November 2011

I hope people get to tap dance on his grave

Madman in the Marketplace - 28 November 2011

Hoping that the Lt. Gov (who’s a nutball xtian anti) and a one or two of the Rep Senators go with him.

marisacat - 28 November 2011

Fingers crossed!!

9. Madman in the Marketplace - 28 November 2011

John Nichols: Under Walker, Wisconsin is No. 1 job loser

Gov. Scott Walker has repeatedly assured Wisconsinites that his assaults on local democracy, public services, public education and collective bargaining rights would create jobs and prosperity.

In contrast, the governor has argued, the decision of Illinois officials to tackle budget challenges with fair tax policies, respect for public employees and efforts to maintain services would cause doom and gloom for that state.

The Illinois comparison has been a constant in Walker’s speeches, media appearances and press releases since January. The governor has been unrelenting in his claim that the best measure of Wisconsin’s progress when it comes to job creation is against Illinois.

“They didn’t fix the problems,” Walker ranted in May with regard to Illinois officials. “In contrast, we’ve done that. And I believe that’s going to help us attract not only businesses coming in from Illinois (but) reassure employers here in the state of Wisconsin that this is the place, now is the time, to grow.”

This has been Walker’s steady mantra, repeated as recently as this month when he traveled to Chicago.

Unfortunately for Walker — and for the state that suffers under his misdirection — the measure has been made.

And the governor has been proven wrong. Way wrong.

The October jobs figures for the United States were just released. Illinois led the nation in job creation, adding 30,000 new jobs.

And what about Wisconsin?

Under Walker, Wisconsin now leads the nation in job losses.

In fact, of the states that the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics described as experiencing “statistically significant unemployment changes” in October, only one actually lost jobs: Wisconsin.

Wisconsin lost 9,700 jobs in October, almost all of them in the private sector.

But that is not the worst news. The worst news is that the job losses are part of a pattern that began around the time that Walker’s “reforms” took hold.

Wisconsin did not just lose jobs in October.

Wisconsin lost jobs in September.

Wisconsin lost jobs in August.

Wisconsin lost jobs in July.

Back in May, when Walker was bragging about how he had “fixed” Wisconsin, the latest figures put the state’s unemployment rate at 7.3 percent.

Now, the latest figures put the rate at 7.7 percent.

How does that compare with the national average? During the same period when unemployment went down one-tenth of a percentage point nationally, it rose four-tenths of a percent under Scott Walker.

10. diane - 28 November 2011

While poking around for non ‘mainstream’ news (I did catch a short bit of audio on the radio where some wonderful student called out obscenely wealthy regent, Dick Blum, DiFi’s hubby ) on the UC Protests today, I also found the following, totally damning letter, re: Bratton/Kroll, at Occupy CA. KROLL as campus security? …Yudof, and all the fucking regents should be forced out, in SHAME:

Letter to President Yudof objecting to hiring William Bratton to investigate UC Davis pepper-spray incident

November 27, 2011

President Mark G. Yudof
University of California
1111 Franklin St., 12th Floor
Oakland, CA 94607
Fax: (510) 987-9086

Dear President Yudof,

The Council of University of California Faculty Associations (CUCFA) protests your decision to hire the Kroll Security Group, and its Chairman William Bratton, to conduct what you call an independent investigation of police violence at UC Davis. We take no position here on Mr. Bratton’s personal qualifications; our objection is to the conflicts of interest of Kroll Security itself, which is already a major contractor with UC on security matters. According to its website, Kroll’s services are not confined to securing databases and facilities from attacks by criminals and terrorists. It also protects many global financial institutions and other multinationals against threats to “operations” that may come from public criticism and direct political action.

By deepening UC’s links to Kroll, you would be illustrating the kinds of connection between public higher education and Wall Street that the Occupy UC movement is protesting. Kroll’s parent company, Altegrity, provides data-mining, intelligence and on-the-ground security to financial institutions and governments seeking to head off and defeat both private sabotage and public protest. In addition, Altegrity’s parent company, Providence Private Equity, is a major global investor in for-profit higher education companies that benefit from the decline of publicly funded higher education.

We already know that Kroll has provided security services to at least three UC campuses for the past several years. This in itself would disqualify Mr. Bratton from participating in the investigation you propose, even if the role of Kroll and its affiliated companies in defending the financial sector against OWS did not raise further questions about its pro-Wall Street and pro-privatization bias.

A truly independent investigation that would allow UC to provide a credible response to the events at Davis (and the other campuses) needs to address several questions that would not be seriously considered if you hire Kroll.

What was your role and that of UC General Counsel in the events at Davis? Did you, as a distinguished first amendment scholar, tell chancellors and campus police chiefs that protests (especially protests against UC’s own policies) are “part of the DNA of this University” that should not be addressed using the same techniques that UC has developed (likely with the help of Kroll) to deal with terrorists, shooters, and cyber-saboteurs? (Even if you have been a zealous defender of the rising student movement to restore public higher education, such a conclusion would not be credible coming from an investigation tainted by Kroll’s conflicts of interest outlined above.)

• What was and is the role of Kroll in helping banks and public institutions (including UC) investigate and defeat movements such as OWS and their campus counterparts? Is Kroll now acting as a liaison between universities, city governments and the Department of Homeland Security in defending the financial sector against protests occurring on what used to be considered public spaces? Are protests against Wall Street in such spaces now considered a threat to the security of the nation, the city and the public university? (The growing securitization of public space has been a major obstacle to first amendment activity since 9-11.)

• How much money has UC and its individual campuses paid to Kroll for security services? Were these contracts issued as sole source contracts or was there open bidding? Were Kroll’s services confined to protecting, for example, the privacy and integrity of data systems and faculty and staff conducting animal research or did they extended to what Kroll’s website calls “organizational threats” arising from “the dynamic and sometimes conflicting needs of the entire campus population?” (This could be a description of the student protests that you rightly regard as “central to our history” as a university.)

• What led to the issuance of false and misleading statements by University of California officials (Chancellors and their assistants, spokespeople, and police chiefs) in the aftermath of police violence at Berkeley and Davis? Did you encourage these efforts at spin control? (Dishonest statements seriously damage the university as an institution devoted to truth and protect only the individuals whose decisions are in question.)

The broader issue is how protest can be part of what you characterized as “our university’s DNA” when the right to protest is not formally recognized within the university’s own codes of student and faculty conduct. It could be and should be. The CSU student code states explicitly that “[n]othing in this Code may conflict with Education Code Section 66301 that prohibits disciplinary action against students based on behavior protected by the first amendment.” If such language were included in the UC code of conduct, students would have a clear first amendment defense against disciplinary action arising from peaceful political protest-and there would be strong grounds for questioning the legality of a police order to disperse a peaceful protest from a public site on a public university campus. The explicit incorporation of constitutional limits on UC’s power to break up demonstrations that threaten its march toward privatization would go a long way toward recovering UC as a public, rather than a private, space. We urge you to see that the UC codes of conduct are amended to parallel those in place at CSU.

Events at Davis and the other campuses have shown the University of California in a negative light, and we agree strongly with the need for an independent investigation. We believe, however, that your appointment of Kroll to investigate the university’s response to last week’s protest could itself become a basis for new protests, and that you should ask Speaker Perez (or someone unaffiliated with the University) to appoint a genuinely independent committee with representatives from student, faculty, staff and civil liberties groups. Such a committee should be given a specific charge to investigate and report on all of the questions set forth above.

Robert Meister,
President, Council of UC Faculty Associations
Professor History of Consciousness and Political and Social Thought, UC Santa Cruz

(via CUCFA)

(too much I wanted to boldface, so I didn’t bold anything)

marisacat - 28 November 2011

ugh… it’s even worse than I thought…

They also announced today they hired Justice Reynoso as well to investigate. He served on the Cal SC til he was impeached, recalled along with Rose Bird (CJ of the CSC) – for opposing the death penalty (well, that is what they used for the 3 recalls). I would suspect he is made of mush. It would be nice to think otherwise but why bother to bother.

diane - 28 November 2011

Finding that out about Kroll made me ill. Despicable, fascist people running things, and an absolutely worthless, complicit “press”

(sorry, I should have inserted an end blockquote after: individuals whose decisions are in question.))

wu ming - 29 November 2011

he’s a nice guy, and well known around town, but he’d be a fig leaf here. the fact that he was named shows that the UC admin is learning, ever so slowly, how to put together a decent whitewash.

marisacat - 29 November 2011

I’m not expecting anything from him.

diane - 29 November 2011

(thank you for the bold facing assistance, honey!, ….. something just broke in me (yet another piece of me), and I wanted to … just bold face, …Louden ….ROAR… the fuck out of it all …… )

marisacat - 29 November 2011

All I thought was avoid Geary Blvd… maybe anywhere along it.


11. wu ming - 29 November 2011

and if you want to read some hilarious police brutality apologia, here ya go.

“why do you make me hurt you?”

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 November 2011

poor fwagle widdle stormtroopers …

why is there no video of any of this supposed violence they confronted? I think they’re so ramped up to fear the population that ANY resistance gets transformed into the mayhem they describe in this letter.

However proud we can all be of UC Berkeley’s contribution to free speech in America, no one can deny this: Our society in 2011 has become an extremely more violent place to live and to protect. No one understands the effects of this violence more than those of us in law enforcement.

Disgruntled citizens in this day and age express their frustrations in far more violent ways – with knives, with guns and sometimes by killing innocent bystanders. Peaceful protests can, in an instant, turn into violent rioting, ending in destruction of property or worse – the loss of lives. Police officers and innocent citizens everywhere are being injured, and in some instances, killed.

In the back of every police officer’s mind is this: How can I control this incident so it does not escalate into a seriously violent, potentially life-threatening event for all involved?

While students were calling the protest “non-violent,” the events on November 9th were anything but nonviolent. In previous student Occupy protests, protesters hit police officers with chairs, bricks, spitting, and using homemade plywood shields as weapons – with documented injuries to officers.

At a moment’s notice, the November 9th protest at UC Berkeley could have turned even more violent than it did, much like the Occupy protests in neighboring Oakland.

EVERY stat I’ve seen shows violent crime has been steadily declining for years.

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 November 2011

oh, except rape … I think that is pretty much a steady horror … and it’s not like cops give a shit about that.

marisacat - 29 November 2011

Supposedly if one relies on the FBI stats… among others, violent assault of all kinds is down for years. City after city, town after town, community after community…

I do feel tho with active destabilisation and revved up loss of programs (good and bad alike)…. it may not hold.

Decreased violence did not suit the masters, that much is certain.

wu ming - 29 November 2011

police brutality certainly seems to be on an uptick.

12. marisacat - 29 November 2011

Snicker. It’s official: He’s thinkin’, thinkin’….

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Herman Cain Reassessing Whether He Will Remain in GOP Race [11:39 a.m. ET]

I feel I have seen – and heard – enough of Herman. Go home, inflict yourself on your relatives (it’s that season!!).

13. diane - 29 November 2011

Speaking of drumming up mythology about crime and brutality against the police by the common folk, does anyone else find it odd about the hints of not charging the woman who sprayed the shoppers with pepper spray? That it was self defense? The timing with the UC Davis brutality? The fact that it obscured the reality that Police pepper sprayed shoppers somewhere, If I recollect.correctly?

I mean why would she go shopping on Black Friday if she thought she was worried enough to prepare herself for it with pepper spray, to “defend herself” with?

Not that I want to see yet another Californian incarcerated on bullshit charges, but since people are being incarcerated and brutalized (many times, en masse) by the authorities for totally bogus reasons – not dispersing from peaceful protests, when they were never allowed to disperse, or given the offer; …. arabic language flash cards at a Philadelphi airport, ….. overdue Library books, etc., etc. – at a stunning rate (given the authorities own nationwide crime statistics), I find, both the incident – a Lone Wolf , purported 99%er, pepper spraying her fellow 99%ers – and its ‘handling’ by The Authorities, ..VERY ODD.

marisacat - 29 November 2011

Yes police did pepper spray shoppers ( 😆 IF you shop we will drop you!! 😆 ) over the weekedn.

Oh I think how it was handled is entirely becasue of the assaults on campus.

If you look over in the right hand side bar, Democracy NOW had on the formulator inventor of weapns grade pepper spray… and he wants to stress it was nto invented for how it is being used.

Too Late Now!!!!!!!

diane - 29 November 2011

I heard Gas Bag #1, RothMan, last night, on KGO, conflating the Berkeley Campus MIC letter, with criminals in Oaktown who long ago decided the only way to make a living and keep up with the Jonzez is to the follow the CorpGuv’s lead …CRIME! .He wrapped it up in a snazzy little holiday gift package of implication: well WE TRIED SO HAAAARD, but “we the people” are just violent by nature loozers, and maybe armed drones …are the answer ….

marisacat - 29 November 2011

I’ve been a bit interested in a crime that took place at Geary and 11th Avenue up here… same weekend as the 8 shot in Oakland (which is a huge mess and the litle boy may die)….

Early Friday am, around 2:45 a fight broke out at the jack-in-the-box at Geary and 11th. Neither the fast food joint nor the patrons paid much attention AS THERE ARE SO MNY FIGHTS THERE AT NIGHT.


Thsi one went further, at first the fight appeared over, but two blocks away, one of the two ran the other down. Not sure this fellow will make it either.

Wow. Good luck!

diane - 29 November 2011

I read about that, the SUV and the Fireman, …. very, very heart rending.

if they back people further and further against the wall, the violence of the masses against the masses will come, more and more, as They certainly appear to want it to.

and then, it becomes more and more difficult to discern the paid operatives from the righteously angry ..just snapped, and the, off the hook, wannabe just like the Masters,…etc. ….

Rove, … and Bipartisan, lackey pals and palessas, must be giggling, masturbating, and humping each other ,,,,, to it all … to beat the band, …Their Masters Are Content with the Landscaping Project, ….. so far.

Madman in the Marketplace - 29 November 2011

they have to reinforce the idea that pepper spray is no big deal … though of course the cops version is much more nasty than the commercial “self defense” stuff.

diane - 29 November 2011


marisacat - 29 November 2011

People are idiots if they mass again for thsi joke of Black Friday Thursday whatever.

ANYONE who places themselves in a Wal-Mart parking lot during the night – in a high panic thing like Friday after Tgiving, is nuts.

I HAVE read that as government checks hit bank accounts at midnight, there has started a sort of small rush on the nights that various federal checks go in… people are so short of things (diapers, food, staples) by the end of the month that they gather their purchases and wait, literally for midnight. What a tragedy…

14. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 November 2011

Walmart Sees ‘Enormous’ Spike In Late Night Shopping Due To Food Stamp Refills

Carol Johnston, Walmart’s senior vice president of store development, said that store managers have seen an “enormous spike” in the number of consumers shopping at midnight on the first of the month. That’s typically when those receiving federal food assistance have their accounts refilled each month.

“We’ll bring in more staff to stock. We’ll also make sure all of our registers…are open…Some people may think at 12:01, Walmart’s very quiet, but in a lot of our areas of the country, 12:01 is a big day or a big night for us, actually,” Johnston said.

marisacat - 29 November 2011

Oh I just mentioned a related phenomenon, it, that midnight clustering to shop, happens in conjunction with all fed checks…

For intance they are delivered whether welfare, SS, SS Dis or whatever by your birth day…. Philip, my neighbor and I both get our disability checks on the same day of the month, we share a birthday…

15. Madman in the Marketplace - 29 November 2011
marisacat - 29 November 2011

Out of control.

wu ming - 30 November 2011


16. marisacat - 29 November 2011

OH! Have ot go look it up but just heard on a news update that Slob is polling lower than other pretzels at this point in their pretzeldentia. Lower than Jimmeh… said the report…

You know the R are salivating. Some of them anyway… the Romney camp…

17. marisacat - 29 November 2011

A GE coming up with whiners. What could possibly be more dreary.

If Holder were busy being AG of the US he wouldn’t notice nor would he need some idiocy like Media Matters to be his chorus.

diane - 30 November 2011

Maybe he could busy himself with this (oh wait!), …sooprize:

Researcher’s Video Shows Secret Software on Millions of Phones Logging Everything

By David Kravets

November 29, 2011 | 7:18 pm

The Android developer who raised the ire of a mobile-phone monitoring company last week is on the attack again, producing a video of how the Carrier IQ software secretly installed on millions of mobile phones reports most everything a user does on a phone.

Though the software is installed on most modern Android, BlackBerry and Nokia phones, Carrier IQ was virtually unknown until 25-year-old Trevor Eckhart of Connecticut analyzed its workings, revealing that the software secretly chronicles a user’s phone experience — ostensibly so carriers and phone manufacturers can do quality control.

But now he’s released a video actually showing the logging of text messages, encrypted web searches and, well, you name it.

Eckhart labeled the software a “rootkit,” and the Mountain View, California-based software maker threatened him with legal action and huge money damages. The Electronic Frontier Foundation came to his side last week, and the company backed off on its threats. The company told Wired.com last week that Carrier IQ’s wares are for “gathering information off the handset to understand the mobile-user experience, where phone calls are dropped, where signal quality is poor, why applications crash and battery life.”

The company denies its software logs keystrokes. Eckhart’s 17-minute video clearly undercuts that claim.

The video shows the software logging Eckhart’s online search of “hello world.” That’s despite Eckhart using the HTTPS version of Google which is supposed to hide searches from those who would want to spy by intercepting the traffic between a user and Google.

By the way, it cannot be turned off without rooting the phone and replacing the operating system. And even if you stop paying for wireless service from your carrier and decide to just use Wi-Fi, your device still reports to Carrier IQ.

It’s not even clear what privacy policy covers this. Is it Carrier IQ’s, your carrier’s or your phone manufacturer’s? And, perhaps, most important, is sending your communications to Carrier IQ a violation of the federal government’s ban on wiretapping?

(there’s an embedded copy of the video at the linked, Wired site. bolding mine)

marisacat - 30 November 2011

I’ll move this and the live stream URL forward to the new post…

18. marisacat - 30 November 2011

Apparently the cops have been massing at Dodger stadium and are now moving in toward Occupy LA.

SF has rejected the “offer” made to them.. not only moving way the hell away from where they are, but a list of 17 demands they would have to sign (can this get sillier?).

So I am guessing our little toad mayor, Ed Lee will be moving in on them.. using Villaraigosa for cover.

diane - 30 November 2011

(here’s the Occupy Los Angeles Live Stream site, for anyone able to view the videos (note, the video time stamps look like they’re noted in GMT time, versus PST, an 8 hour difference.)

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