Speaking of il papa catolica… 14 June 2008
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L’Ultimo Principe di Dio … Looks like Ultimo Ratzy to me!
And this site that I landed on while searching for images of il papa… which gave me many a chuckle tonight… don’t miss Pius XII having his skirts held for him…not too far down on the left. Then on to obedience lower down… and a nun venerating (I guess) Christ on the Cross.
Yes…….. many a chuckle… 😉
hmm people should buckle up… listening to an overnight segment on KGO radio (it’s local here in SF, with mostly CA callers) on the SC ruling on Gitmo… for just under two hours, only TWO callers siding with the ruling.
Caller after caller, some even with Scalia and or Roberts dissent in their hands to read parts… just opposed, het up, unable to see WHY this ruling matters. Unable to see how it conforms to the Constitution.
And as I said, the host, who is a old fashioned independent conservative, is using the ruling to exhort “vote Democratic”.
Swing on a star, carry moonbeams home in a jar…
LOL I think Schumer sounds like a babbling idiot… (which is not to say they will nto rack up wins and greater majorities) From Roll Call via the BlahgerBoyz
George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism
One word: crusades
I’ve been wondering for a while if he was going to be another of those winger Catholic converts that populate DC.
Just found this via Crooks and Liars:
VA Denies Vet’s Disability Claim; Cites VoteVets Membership
Mr. Fish
From the latest Harpers, High noon for the Republican Party: Why the G.O.P. must die
I think the cultural conservatives have gotten plenty for their votes, mostly taken away from women and poor, minority voters, but other than that their description is pretty spot on.
LOL
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Adds credence to the thesis that the natural home of the church is no longer the Iberian world (too much nudity there, after all) but the good old US of A. Lots of weaponry to follow the cross.
Believe or you will be stunned.
Too bad they don’t give those cardinals crests instead of beanies.
Note to self and other yorking Empire Staters – save most virulent constituent correspondence for Monday morning delivery to Chuckie “The Cheese” Schumer.
lc – When I heard Ratzy gave the Great Brush-Cutter a private garden tour, I worried about the Vatican roses. Queen Lizzy’s are probably still recovering.
BTW – the American bishops made news yesterday too.
Wonder if they’ll offer home energy assistance for the fridges.
Ooh that’s a good Mr. Fish, Madman.
American bishops (and fridges) in spam?
I did not know this (from catnip’s link):
Catholics have noted that during the contested election in 2000, Jeb Bush travelled to Mexico and prayed to the icon of Our Lady of Guadelupe. His victory was announced by the Supreme Court on December 12, the feast day of the Lady of Guadelupe.
Spooooooky!
CSTAR (from last thread):
What a laughable practice to try to ingratiate oneself with a corpse.
LOL. That would make a good tombstone epitaph, in the spirit of “Here lies John Yeast. Pardon me for not rising.”
7 – Holy publicity, Madman!
Jesse Ventura on wages and unions.
Jess Ventura on welfare and poverty.
Color me not real impressed with the thought of this man as President. OTOH, it would be great if he ran and got widespread public exposure– Because frankly I’m guessing that this is close to how Obama’s handlers feel about the people they claim to care for;Once you strip away all the flowery inspirational language.
More trouble in paradise, via The Womanist Musings blog. McKinney as the “fallback” for White Feminists who otherwise would have voted Clinton II.
Old Dogs and Hard Time
Time’s right for rail
IB
sorry,.. American Bishops out of spam and upthread at comment 9
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Rigorous Intuition
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that was a horrible story… and the thread was sad.
I read a few weeks ago that for ordinary, non combat, non VA related disability claims, for SSDI Social Security Disability, there are over 750,000 languishing in the process or denied. In the 90s under Clinton one of the worst of the private disability insurers (Provident/Unum) was contracted to come into the system and “advise”.
I would imagine soemthing similar has been done with VA benefits. They knew a set of wars would be costly and I doubt any of them wanted to be paying out more than needed.
but, you know, not to worry, Obama ran in 04 on wanting to serve on the VA committe, so I am sure everything will be fine soon after January 09.
And McCain certainly knows how to get full benefits AND work.
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agree… (and off to read the full post).
A few years ago, before 04 election, Frances Fox Piven said that they allow us the internets, left leaning political books and exposes in books, because it does not matter. Too few read any of it to really matter.
I figure it is like drugs in jail… no one wants to run the jail without drugs to take the pressure off.
Found this linked at Talk to Action:
John McCain Meets With Catholic Leaders in Philadelphia
hmm I am sure we are winning…
Grazie, MCat.
ms_x – Interesting. Maybe all those so-called cracks in the glass ceiling really will start to radiate through the walls and shuttered windows of the party edifices (edifi?) as well.
I haven’t met a single one of those much-vaunted Hillary-or-Bust Dems (of any gender) here in NY, though.
I haven’t met a single one of those much-vaunted Hillary-or-Bust Dems (of any gender) here in NY, though.
Think SF and environs has a hard core sub set of them (even as the region rang up the votes for ObamaRama)… not sure abut the “or bust” extension and how long it will endure…but they are here, hard core Clintonites and big donors.
I heard that Jim Johnson was on the phone about minute one after she delivered her speech, pressuring big money Clinton donors to come over. LOL… and he is remaining as a bundler.
My guess VPessa is chosen, time and wannabes are dangling … and so it goes.
Think SF and environs has a hard core sub set of them
I’m sure they exist here, too (and probably more so further downstate), but I’m not seeing them stop traffic much, switching their T-shirts from blue to green.
I heard that Jim Johnson was on the phone about minute one after she delivered her speech, pressuring big money Clinton donors to come over.
Way to woo ’em, Jimmy.
John Nichols has a piece up at The Nation, “Supreme Court Judges Obama Right on Constitution |.” I just wanted to regurgitate a little reminder:
Iow, the problem isn’t that the federal judiciary was locked out of hearing habeas petitions; it’s that the bill won’t (& didn’t) stand up to judicial scrutiny. It wasn’t written properly in order to block the Judicial branch from having any say in making “decisions on these detainees.”
hmm I am so suspicious of our savior sent by god and the Democrats… will click thru to read. Plus Nichols has been with the ‘older white male pre orgasmics for obama’. Sigh.
None of these people mean us any good.
They may ”tidy up” Gitmo (and the legal process) but that will nto stop what they are doing in the war zones.
o, I was NOT praising the Nichols’ article . . .
yeah i got that… 😉 I was just typing what went thru my brain.
Frankly I am surprised to see Chemerinsky sign that letter. And what an emotional open armed letter. Fools.
IB, #24:
Well, I said in my own space that what holds my attention in this race is not either/any of the front-runners. What’s at play amongst the masses rooting for one or the other is a lot more interesting.
I don’t fault the author at Womanist Musings at all for being pissed off at White feminists. But I’m still going to stick with the path I’ve chosen, and that path doesn’t include Obama or any other Democrat.
If Clinton II had been able to hammer out a win for herself, how many POC would honestly have stood for that ? Male or female ? Particularly in this highly charged atmosphere of dirty trick after dirty trick, and accusations thereof ? I guess we’ll never know for sure.
And the fractures, breaks, cracks, fissures, splits just keep on coming. (via SMBIVA)
Somebody tell me all this shit won’t just magically smooth itself out come, oh, 9/15/08 or so. Bad as stress is for me personally, this is the kind of airing we need to see in public. No way out but through, blah blah blah blah.
“Falling in line on Election Day” in 2004 sure as hell did nothing for us as a country. It’s long past time that more people fell out, even if it’s not always for the reasons I’d personally like.
I ran across an item the other day by a Gitmo lawyer who dod NOT sign the letter – no time to look it up now tho, my wife really wants to get out & get some food
Spam A Lama Ding Dong.
I missed this: Kucinich Vows New Round of Impeachment Articles Against Bush If Measure Dies
Doesn’t this make him a sockpuppet? Gosh the hypocrisy.
http://dailykos.com/story/2008/6/14/0952/31661/488/535481
ive been enjoying the banal white nationalist demoKKK-rats© over at pff hurling racism charges (as if they were olypmic disciim can you say donkasstail?) at everysingleone who takes issue with their blessed© politician.
but it appears as if they’ve been bitten by the very same bug they point out so gleefully in others. of course with them being 99.5% easter-lily-white and all, this comes as no huge surprise.
Why this Black Man Lives Unapologetically in Brazil
by francislholland
guess flh wasn’t anointed by the corp plutocracy like their main manna has been. so they minimize his excellent points asap. hey, think flh is a larouchite? i mean he must be yes? i bet he mentioned larouche once in his lifetime.
i swear i knew we were in for a show in 2005. but i had no friggin idea is was going to be like this. i wanna seat belt and an air bag with my orchestra seat please.
and an airsick back as well. and it won’t be the pinot noir making me ill either.
🙂
now everyone text hope to 62262
We’re all LaRouchies now, bayprairie.
Naderites being passe’ until Hairless Weasel takes a break from his 64-volume Law & Order collection and returns with the sacred tablets, of course.
i want hairless trigger to magically render 10 million english anti-war marchers irrelevant simply by using “the voice”. 1 million wasn’t enough. i suppose i’m greedy and want it all.
and im right too. just ask the brit troops in basra.
oh wait. you can’t. they left not long after the protests.
did i say left? oh my.
oh by the way. today i got my share at the coop and in it, for the first time are
locally grown tomatoes!!!!!!
to fucking die for. now everyone should text tomatoes to your mouth.
bay
LOL
“main manna”, that’s good!
well he’s fallen from heaven. food for the israelites in teh wilderness! just text hope to 62262 it’ll fall on you teaux!
obama is moses.
one savior. two tablets. do the math.
obama is heston.
and in spite of chemically inspired cótes du rhóne silliness i still experience that dead-short-to-ground sensation when i am confronted with the reality of our binary america, glimsed dimly through the looking glass of someone elses eyes…
and then life is no longer funny
ms_x at 31 – I’m also fascinated by the current dynamics of the various alliances, and interested to see signs of traditional faultlines giving way to crosswise, sensitive new fissures. (Tartan alert!)
The shifts occurring all over the so-called electoral map (like those “living dunes” Donald Trump wants to tromp) have already proven fluid enough to permit some unexpected pile-ups. What happens next is way beyond my pore, pitiful powers as a (cough) political prophet, but I bet the I Ching would have something to say. Betcha Rules for Radicals or Das Kapital or Da Bible or some other venerated, grad-school-approved text could be cited to support the notion that human beings might, just might, be pressed to evolve.
Also agree there’s no way out but through. And it helps a lot when people actually listen to each other. (Not to mention themselves.)
Quite the sticky mess so far, on view. Very rough on the wall-to-wall tarpitting. With eggheads like some we’ve seen, I’m not exactly holding out for omelettes.
BTW – the upside-down spam really was hurlworthy.
So until the cabin aisles are all aswirl with whirling peas, let’s all secure our folding trays in the functional position, if that’s ok, and please pass those fresh tomatoes, Texan Tease.
hmm i think the 3,600 “volunteer fellows” fanning out across the country for Obama have been told they embody Alinsky methods.
Will wonders never cease.
Not sure what it all means, but the drums in the jungle constantly relay that ”reach out and touch someone” from the campaign is lacking.
LOL: The thread says “get over it and accept Jesus, he is a busy fellow!”
bonaroo 2008, TONIGHT. Solomon Burke
None of Us Are Free
ate the first cherry tomato off the vine today. i figure i’m about 2 or 3 weeks away from a garden-fresh caprese. spekaing of which, i probably need to start planting more basil plants pretty soon.
summer veggies, the payback for the summer heat.
my basil has leaf spot! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
paybacks are a bitch though. eh?
on the topic of alinsky, al giordano’s post on rules for radicals got censored over at the field because it “mentioned alinsky.”
al relocated the field to narconews site here.
dancing larry got me into alinsky with that series he did at LSF ages ago. by the time i really digested it, he had vanished into the aether of offline organizing, with post-katrina NOLA last i heard. pity, he was one of the more interesting voices out there.
i just got lazy didn’t water my basil enough, so it’s all lame, yellow and stunted. time for a new crop.
Dancing Larry completely vanished, at least under that name…. he returned to Dkos to post, posted a couple of times about a parish outside New Orleans, forget which one. His last exchange on Dkos (that I was aware of) was with Armando, who was asking for some one who had had a government security clearance in the past to contact him. It had to be verifiable and thus name and other info had to be divulged.
Very odd.
Like the nets.
its humid, and way hot here. i think i watered mine too much. leaf spot is a humid disease.
Steve Earle and Emmylou Harris – Goodbye
G(eneral )E(lection) Hospitality Set, c. 1940. Don’t worry! We will bring good things to light! Enjoy this message!
For “Whitey” Xeno and Dancing Larry – an Alinsky apparatus? Direct action without reliance on the D.C. power grid!
And with these toasts I bid good night.
nite!
but i recall…
all of those nights down in mexico
one place i may never go
in my life
again.
cause i
just off somewhere
just too high,
but i
cant remember
if we
said
goodbye
no humidity problems here, it hasn’t rained since february. humidity was at 11% yesterday, it felt like AZ.
57 – that does sound really weird.
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hmm last person on earth I’d contact with my personal information would be anyone connected to the Blahgs. I was very surprised when DL replied to Armando and indicated he would email him.
no az here. humidity 95%. rain every day. temps high 99, low 83, at 3 a.m.
can you say HOT!
i visited a friend at rice once and was astonished to see the cloud of vapor just hang in their apartment for hours after a shower. some idiot had painted the bathroom window shut, so there was nowhere for it to go.
rice is such a good university, though. pity its so goddamned hot, eh?
Stevie Ray Vaughan Little Wing
Stevie Ray Vaughan- Texas Flood
that’s for madman rat there.
love the blues.
Stevie Ray Vaughan – Texas Flood (Long version!)
Steve Earle : Fort Worth Blues
In Ft. Worth all the neon’s burnin’ bright
Pretty lights red and blue
But they’d shut down all the honky tonks tonight
And say a prayer or two
If they only knew
You used to say the highway was your home
But we both know that ain’t true
It’s just the only place a man can go
When he don’t know where he’s travelin’ to
But Colorado’s always clean and healin’
And Tennessee in Spring is green and cool
It never really was your kind of town
But you went around with the Ft. Worth Blues
angry arab on tim russert
Angry Arab is right………………
I’m so happy that I live in electorally irrelevant part of the country, so I don’t have to waste any time caring about this crap at all.
No presidential candidate is ever going to come here, ever ever. Heck, we don’t even see actual sitting presidents ever. Our green and pleasant land has not been touched by Obama’s holy foot, nor ever shall be.
Tim Russert…
Just went hunting for this tidbit I never forgot, which I found in a 2004 New York Observer article. I’m referring to Russert’s Bush love, circa 2000 election. I also recall Tweets saying on air several times that he voted for Bush in 2000. Guess it never hurts to please The Man.
Angry Arab did sum it up well, concisely and accurately re our Russert/America/Media problem.
Re: the image for this post – he makes a lovely bride! Who’s the lucky groom?
71. from Angry Arab: “Russert started his career by working for one of the worst (and most politically racialist) Senators: Daniel Patrick Moynihan.”
I remember, way back when, hearing that Moynihan would take his sons to baseball games, but not his daughter. When asked about it, he said something like “Baseball is for boys, not girls.”
That echoes the story told to me by Jim Lehrer’s son-in-law about George Will: in front of a crowd of people, Will once told Lehrer’s young daughter, who was going off to soccer practice, “Soccer isn’t for girls!”
Stupid sexist jerks.
Incidentally, it’s funny how the Matthews’ ‘outing’, which Angry Arab references, about Russert’s support of the war, which I caught as it aired, is one in which Matthews managed to make Russert seem like the quintessential American Sucker and Hero in one… probably intentional. Bet he’s always been just a bit green about the power of and plaudits for Tim.
His impromptu eulogy for Russert on Friday seemed an attempt to laud him and at the same time belittle him. He seemed to marvel at how Tim Russert represented the REAL America, describing a behind-the-scenes moment before the war in which Tweets (astutely!) questioned Russert over the wisdom of making war on Iraq, in which Tim said we have to do it because of the NUKES, the notion Saddam just might have nukes. Matthews twittered that Tim’s reasoning perfectly reflected AMERICA, the (glorified everyman) American Mind, ie, Ya cant blame us for getting suckered into preventive war over sumpin as scary as Bush/Cheney/et al talking Saddam and Nukes, ie, Tim is the quintessential American (roses litter the stage and thunderous applause, now!)
I notice Tweety revising his past quite often, acting like he was much more obviously against the war than he showed before opposition was in vogue… not that I think he really did support it, but he played along a lot back then. Or, to put it another way, as we all know, those days of heady support for (get your) war on for Iraq were definitely NOT a Daniel Ellsberg moment for his resume.
14, ms x: Ventura is a libertarian, but not an insane Randian one.
We have to avoid policies that blindly make government grow.
I agree with him there. Just throwing money at the problem and hoping the government knows what it’s doing isn’t a very smart idea.
I would rather Ventura were President than Nader, who pooh-poohed the notion that Roe v. Wade would be overturned, and basically said “well it wouldn’t be the end of the world, it would just revert back to the states.”
No thanks.
Nice state to be in… if you happen to get pregnant at 14 and choose to abort… in the wrong state. (Just one of many scenarios that make reverting choice to the states untenable)
If Ralph did indeed say that, all I can say is, Good going, Ralph! (with much sarcasm)
As for government funding, there are programs that are beneficial and those that are not. It’s that simple – that it’s not that simple. Libertarians tend to hawk the notion that privatizing everything, voluntary help for everything is the answer. HIstory does not bear that out.
73, Nyco: wow, you’re fortunate. I live in NH so all the candidates came out here at some point, and roamed around. I pretty much opted out of the whole circus, but early in the process I did attend a “house party” where Elizabeth Edwards spoke with Kate Michelman. That was good. EE is very impressive. It’s too bad that women with her qualities somehow get shunted into supporting their husbands’ political careers rather than starting their own.
Something I like about Jesse Ventura:
Right on, Jesse!!
thanks for the tunes bay.
Remembering Tim Russert
That said, let’s try to keep this in perspective
LOL I managed to sleep thru this morning’s slobber fest (from listening to Iran sabre rattling all night on KGO) BUT I did catch the Matthews show… and Mrs Greenspun… (as well as Broder and Al Hunt) she said that Russert ”held the NBC family together after 9/11” (homilies from Big Russ I would assume) after the anthrax attacks (nice to hear it mentioned) and… one other thing… not sure what it was in the Great Bleed for Russert.
She wonders who will hold them together now.
I jsut wonder: who gets the job.
And Carville and Matalin must be out of the country, have not managed to catch them.
Really too bad when the whole line up in DC is America and Israel Firsters. No perspective at all.
Not only did Russert’s questioning beg better questioning, but he had on a flood of admin mouthpieces (lots of medals) and mealy mouthed go alongs or say-nothings, as did all the rest of the shows, including the PBS Newshour and, apparently, NPR, which Ive heard about secondhand. When you wont grill the evil hawks, at least have on some doves to somewhat even the playing field, so the public will hear the other side.
Oh, whoops, that was Donahue’s show… which MSN whacked for not falling in line. It was said recently, on some show Donahue was on, that his bosses insisted he have on 2 pro war guests to every anti war one and when Michael Moore was on, they upped the opposition to 3.
Bill PRess has a show on one of the local “liberal” radio talk shows here… and i heard him months ago mention that the show he had on MSNBC (think it was) with Buchanan was whacked as well, as both of them opposed the war. For a whole slew of reasons.
The only anti Iraq War voice that I reguarly found, at least on CNN on Cross fire, was Tim Andrews who had been a congressional representative, from which state I forget and his org, Win Without War. His org is one of the peace groups that took a share of the 7+ million the Dems handed out in spring of ’07 to peace groups, who then reliably shut up.
What a game it all is.
I watched MTP this am, Carville and Matlin were on it.
Doris Kearns jumped out of a cake for Tim, wearing a pink feather boa, playing Marilyn, in footage from happier times (the occasion of his 50th birthday). Definitely the weirdest part of the show.
Tim’s Tagline: Only in America!
Wow, you can declare preventive war with a straight face, ask the world for a coalition, and get away with invasion and occupation based on nothing but your own warped leadership’s warped ambitions, with the help of a totally embedded press corps… Only in America!
Wow, you can be the son of a garbage man and make millions bullshitting (as father garbage man said) … only in America!
Wow, look at this hotdog Im eating… only in America!
There is a funny bit ‘o Timmeh in the New Yorker’s Olbermann profile
I can’t decide if he was just a blinkered moron or if he was lying about “what I do”. Information gathered is filtered by one’s beliefs. Hell, you can only recognize something as important if it is defined as such in your worldview. Russert’s center-right suburban mentality was woven through every question he asked, every panel he set up on his show, every younger “journalist” he mentored. It’s the mentality that has given us 50+ years of belligerant aggressive warmongering, 50+ years of sprawl and resistance to change.
well the current Iraq fiction, pushed by both parties and pushed quite hard by election cycle Dems, is that the Iraqi people and most certainly their government are ungrateful. For all we have done for them. Unable to manage adult business, weak and hateful children fighting sectarian and civil wars that have nothing to do with what we did. And all we did was mismanage. Being a nation of mediocre managers, it is a saleable “truth”.
I am also laughing very hard at the ‘disclosure’ of McCain’s ’74 War College thesis… when the Dems twist the Vietnam war to suit, what else, election cycles. And promoted Webb with the exact same idealogy.
Russert lied. All the time.
And worked to benefit himself. I mean the NATION got his father and that bizarre glorifcation shoved down it throat, same as the “Greatest Generation” stuff. it sold to the masses.
Another from Angry Arab:
yeah no shock. America and Israel Firsters for GE which is MIC to the core.
Mc – “Bizarre glorification…” Lol. Aptly said.
Re #85 – Yeah, you got little squeezy antiwar blips from someone once in a while, but that was it. Totally underwhelming. I think Andrews is from Washington state. I recall that twinning of Buchanan and Press, too.
Over the past year or so I have become not more enamored but more forgiving of narrow, stupid, and boxed in reportage and commentary, given how it liberally wallpapers the nationscape. I cant help it. I cant puke anew every day.
All negatives duly noted re Russert and his show, I did watch Meet the Press irregularly on a regular running basis (sometimes I am just bored to death and get off the hook), and it was rather shocking that he was taken so prematurely… that Cabbage Patch doll head was a part of my life, not really a noteworthy part, but noted now that he’s passed on…
Have to say… RIP
Death Squads in Oaxaca
new thread……………
LINK
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Jack Welch is a ruthless prick. Ever seen Charlie Rose slobber over him?
On the other hand, Charlie was very cool to Noam Chomsky when he finally had him on (he said his viewers kept after him to book him). He quoted Thomas Friedman — another one he slobbers over — to chide Chomsky. Friedman the Great said something like: Chomsky is very bright but the awful thing about him is how he takes American achievement and positions it belly up… ie, shows the worms.
Welch yes, Friedman yes, Chomsky no. Thus our Only in America! America.
Mmm, mmm, good. Keith Olbermann Gummi Penises.